EU around and about Aether

its bit surprising but till now havent seen whoever from TP to talk about, otherwise I would had have promoted them in context my AFT exploration, even in one session g.a.i. points how EU differs regards aether ,,,

still this recent video points they are galloping towards AFT path, where the plasma substrate would be aether and vice versa, altho again they would need to distance themselves from an particle mindset ~ https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2023/01/14/michael-armstrong-aether-is-squidgy-thunderbolts/

in essence various members of TP have different final understanding of EU, while in essence aether would be logical base for plasma flow, yet in the beginning WallaceT was pushing EU through particle physics lens [1][1] what would be understandable, just like every other alternative physics thinker, who would try to find check&balance among mainstream physicists, while from start not to be rejected as crackpot [2-1] what tho, for me would be at best flirting two'face'hypo, aside that like that again the grrrrr fallacy tilting is secured for good [3]

and exactly coz that, lets say infiltrated dissonance among EU proponents, I could never hook to their hype cheerfully, altho I was myself (earlier secrete, later sincere) fan of the eu hype [4-#337][4] coz it was first emergence of whatever theory then that recognized NikolaT in context [5][5] but also saw that, at least then, it dont have firm ground so would become waking up mirror to mainstream physics, hek mainstreamers even nowadays ridicule it [6] as I suspect WallT logic was skewed by infiltration, and/or pulled to follow useful mirroring to particle physics, so like that later would be thrown under "deir" bus!

anyway, as could be seen there are few blog posts about aether on TP [7] among which, one of DavidD, where he equals aether to plasma in general [8] so kind of claims particle physics is obsolete, yet we still havent completely evade it, i.e. as I can grasp WallT wants to squeeze EU as solution for mainstreamers too [9][9] and on top having support by l't'e is almost bad if not evil luck to ring'the'bell so many would run away [10][10] otherwise will tilt out in neopaganism for granted how already became hype even for theosophs [11] thus my last conclusion would be run run run far away from EU!!!, dont take me wrong but when in time something is not correctly raised, plus later burdened or infiltrated in various ways, altho it could look appealing it cant bring safe ground, but constant evaporation coz its without complete aether stamina ... can the same be achieved, hm, everything is possible if correct focus and right will is secured, but that would mean complete reshape of EU, what is less probable, but more like to be taken what is useful logic and used for testing if not incorporating true continuum flow ...

once listened the last two 8th footnotes two times, hm, WallT sounds like some rogue double agent, an infiltrator in the modern aether exploration community, at least how is engaged and pushed I can resemble kind of intentional psyop for gaslighting those willing to put effort meditating on the Aether logic to focus on chasing solutions through particle physics, what tho it can but also it dont need to be some power'elite'conspiracy for masses would be kept as long as possible asleep, but it could have been flushed inertia from above > see the assumption 3. in the first paragraph of the next post > [1] hm hm hm, can we exempt ourselves from whatever reasoning for whatever subversion of mainstreamers, eg. needed so the prevalent new'age'Zero'energy'hype back then would be stirred in wrong direction, simply too much inventors were popping up with focus on Aether, so also popped up need for gaslighting by euroatlantic'power'elites, which seek to keep scarcity'energy'doctrine as dominant dogma, and logically, so would secure "deir" pharaonic 1% position above "deir" slaves!, what sounds bit storytelish kick of mine, Up until its not brought hint like hey "dei" had have huge problem removing evaporating or silencing inventors few decades ago [2-4/5] so why in time would not be stirred useful psyop and many wonnabe future Garage Scientists from start would be smeared by pp'combo towards smooth lobotomization of/with such wrong physics!?, and voilla, now, this kind of logicism suddenly becomes probable, with various possibilities tho, eg, maybe WallT wasnt even aware how he was driven and fed further, pushed to bring open network too so the EU idea would become hype!?, eh, open, yet without useful moderation, along loosen trial&error of theoretical flow, altho we can speculate which as open probably was needed, coz he was going by wrong logic > i.e that continuum could be atomized, thus proposing various particle ideas, even aether particle > maybe the atomic ant toon was inspiration :slight_smile: dont take me wrong, I have not some special need to ridicule anyone, especially not whatever opposition to mainstreamers, yet need to keep high my skeptic bar regards Aether chase by atomistic mechanistic cosmology in cartesian system(s)!, simpllly we need help from all alternative sides, so we would secure effective reinventing the wheel, so whatever pushback coz whatever unpolite bickering would be wrong motivation, which at best will end up in bitter egotrippin' instead joint exploration fun!, still for the sake of Wake Up Hype, wanted or not, I needed to throw this kind of guerilla marketing reminder like donT forgeT most of the EU proponents go by or through particle physics, thus like that even more stuck in live sand ignorance that needs to be constantly buzzed [2] for the fact that ultimate flow dont comes through ultimate divisioning!

now, once I've dismissed as useful the EU approach, need to point to alternative to it, i.e. complete reinventing of the wheel, where is needed complete switch of atomism with continuum logic!, what hm I am not sure whether is ever done till now, except maybe in some poetic form!?, eg. the recent AFT++ that emerged like reverse engineering exploration, mainly to some alternative ideas in the GDS thread OnPhysics [3][4-3] and how as such later while pushed in general check&balance google a.i. digitroning, brought strange UFT flow ... and while shifting, from strange to stranger, back and forth, now with confidence can claim g.a.i. secured inertia towards Effective Aether Field Theory that is completely exempt from particle physics, thus now I can freely point eg. to EU or alike explorers, do consider calculating this logic in Your AFT exploration ... and oho, why not proposing such AFT flow to anyone, if not else the same can boost creative thinking for any business pitcher ...

... anyway, we can endlessly pour from empty in hollow attempts, even like EU lifebuoy for particle physics, every time the same gets lost in space [5-4] but think that would be useless approach, if indeed atomism is wrong projection for reality [6-3][6-8][6-2] which as atomization'of'everythin asks to be completly removed, so EU would reach some effective AFT position, eg. go in the next footnote, ctrl+f > "electric universe" > [7][7] and here we are, even EU peers were manipulated, it could be quickly normalized as exploration inertia, altho guess many choked by the mixed-hype which is already rolled in the EU yard, will have issue to remove themselves from that particle'physics'mix, or!?, will they have issue to embrace complete EU remapping by pure continuum logic!?, I'll argue maybe even mainstreamers will not have such problem, coz many around them arent hooked to some view, thus can more easily build up own inertia, than bending arguments so would secure EU that from start is heavily influenced by atomistic logic!, tho maybe I jump to conclusion too early ... anyway, Good Luck coz You all will need it, especially if we know that the spiritual world is basis for this one, thus many unaware will tilt out for sure, eventually avoiding such misfortune if grasp eg. how would fence themselves by OC means [8-8] against hijack and skewed exploration, dont forget we are raising against the hijack of power&principalities thus be careful how You are pulled to waste time if not else ...

wow why is not opening this centered image, first had have issue posting it with or without tags, then without center wrap, now it opens just portion, is this some aetheric hint, like dont worry the hype it just began :smiley: hm who would say, maybe sometimes soon the AFT++ ideas will burst in full mode ... at least in socialist countries, after any eventual next global economic and/or geopolitical cataclysm ...

Sadly the Electric Universe folks are not a well developed model yet. I've hoped and cheered for them for many years and purchased their materials even, but they are not as advanced as they should be. Their observations are nice, but - alas - they are not really pursuing things as fully as they could be.

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@Soretna probably their exploration is as it is, coz from start is placed in wrong p'p'mold and that by itself producing various dead end or empty loops in the theory ... tho I cant judge them anyhow coz still except surficial observation of their shear dissent by various proponents, simply I never have put extra effort examining more deeply their proposition, plasma physics since stone age bla bla alike points would be my take, I havent even pay attention for them pivot is particle physics, maybe did by while playing videos before sleep, eventually I was certain there are pals there that grasp aether more than the rest, and was expecting they will reach total removal of particle physics from their flow, tho 10 year later that still didnt happen, actually when I first put some effort reading about ...

uh I've been bit mean in the edit of the 2nd post, here is it separated, just so would emphasize to all be careful how You juggle what, at least from pure continuum angle reasoning or better said thoughtfulness!

hm, this resignation above is probably too harsh, actually from piety earlier I've stood in defense for WalT like cmon are mainstreamers not pseudos [1] but now would equal them through p'p'prism or maybe give slight advance to EU yet in one or another way the same will drop in QM so whats the point!?, in essence I empatize with whomever attacked by rude language, in this case how mainstreamers are now ridiculing EU'rs [2] altho some will argue that is science so the scrutiny cant be skewed differently in more polite manner coz yeah 'mean'streamers always see their particle physics with dogmatic eyes thus are dropping from start in attacking mode, yeah wrong, altho what think maybe is wrong popular perception too coz those that are rude are more like students or not peers from the academia, maybe even halfliterate like me, thus so would provoke attention are behaving like idiots, jumping around like stubbed in the back if someone even bring whatever other point of view in their own particle physics realm, hm, guess then with AFT++ I would be burned on pyre :smiley:

hey I cant burn coz simply nonexisting in Your p'p'phatasmagorical model of particles in void, so yeah catch me if You can, hm, by which measure!?, anyway, it would be honor even from fun if someone tackle AFT++ as physicist, what about if dedicated effort is put in examine and polishing it, eg. when how would be more probable and/or possible, altho for sure will stuck in their mainstreamers illusion of certainty [3][3][3] eg. even everything is in its place theoretically up until in practice AFT++ dont become effectively implemented will reject is as possible but less than probable alternative to their mainstream p'p'dogmatism!, simply their ego is too big to fail, especially coz the same is derived and resting on specific exceptionalist stamina which needs to be flawless and not for whole century in shear error, simply coz the same is basis for "someones" eschatological utopianism [4][5] so even scientists would acknowledge yeah particle physics is obsolete, still euroatlantic determinists will see that as risk upon "deir" position, thus probably will do "deir" best to squeeze AFT++ flow alike through QM, practically I sense attempt in motion through EU emergence earlier, tho it didnt went smooth and fluid enough :slight_smile: practically EU became hype for new'agers'enlightment waiting to happen, yeah an 6.0 adjunct to rosicrucian inertia of alchemists waiting "deir" age'of'aquarious [6][6-7][6] so it fits a pattern how and when it emerged and where is landing, isnt!?, compare this second 6th footnote n'w'o links and the next one as EU inertia [7][7][7]

must remind again, I dont have issue with the electric notion in EU theory, but its esoteric causality along the derivation resting on plasma particle physics, for me are wow waste of time!, also when to that is aligned the new'age'causality and voilla we have a huge problem!, still what makes the unique momentum is the point that particle physics per'se rejects existence of such vast electrical interaction, what in my opinion once the same is chased as EU through AFT++ logic will bring completely different points options and solutions to the dead ends of the current mainstream physics!

yeah, intuitively we all know whatever EU alike theory is far more logical than whatever atomistic electromagnatic explanation, altho as mainstream emf theory is extra exploited explored and implemented by particle physics laws and math, yet the same as constants and equations are brought so would fit such atomistic QM and GR logicism, thus trying to bring by their divB=0 logic whatever variable in EU context is wrong!, thus dont waste time and focus to AFT++ alike logic ...

as I see EU was tackled here on MR coz eventual proof for HE [1] but think its far better chasing Expanding Earth Theory [2] through AFT++ prism [3] logically by no means how EU is tied to atomism is effective explanation what about workable proof for HE ...

  • hm, maybe some workable EU hypothesis in this HE context would be that some plasma bursts from the sun fried the earth interior :smiley: but such ultra strong plasma flow would fry the atmosphere, unless that happened before the atmosphere formed!, hm, dont give any thought to this its just polite excusing for this shout to MRers be clever evade falling in trap chasing HE by EU ... electricity and particles, yeah electrostatic blowing balloons maybe will solve even some future expanding earth theory for good!?, assuming all even further will tilt out particle'physics'phantasmagories!, eh, maybe it could drop like EU water vortex eventually, if we assume EU goes by AFT++ logic, but even then coz hooked to mainstreamers will end in video game alike, tho with smiling ideas like " Alteration: Cylinder World spinning!" [4][4] guess in future Kids will learn physics just like this while playing games, or!?, possible Phd would go through party people events while dancing in sacred geometric footsteps and arm spiraling [5][5] I mean if short selling endless scroll hype dont stop and idiocracy certain norm for the Youth ahead, then how else to be resolved their as I assume intentional lobotomization for easier manipulation even mids super knowledgeable times regards information saturation and sharing ...

disclaimer: again I dont want anyhow to mock whoever even less EUers, but need on small door to boost attention hijack, so would alarm for given need now AFT++ flow to be stirred, simply its time when many are prepping for hot phase ww-3 thus think this could be escape wild card for all, at least as modern empires to calm down till dont bring new physics and workable arms from it, in a kind buying time for the inevitable, coz as luciferians once exposed neatly freemasons will not rest and step aside with "deir" eschatological agendas, its kind of logical ordo'ab'chao of "deirs" even as last attempt if not else from envy towards Christianity, I mean "dei" infiltrated so much so deep through the past centuries [6] so now what, to lower down "deir" beliefs and utopian strives, when, hm, till never, coz if the spiritual world is basis for this one, what drives "dem" is wicked-spirit-anathema-to-it while coz many are hijacked or enslaved, logically as serf&slaves will continue pushing "deir" spins&skims even all chill out, even scarcity is removed, simply this dimension is one of our fall our expulsion our torment till we repent, so expecting heaven'on'earth is simply impossible, tho neopagans think differently, they expect transformation of this same dimension and that will meet its ends [7][7][7]