Its hard to say if its valid or not....I do know that ancient crafts made
form a granite rock could be possible.... I was just wanting some
input....what do you think of this website...It was emailed to us!Its about a
cavern in the hollow earth
<A HREF="How Does the Bible REALLY Desribe Hell?">http://www.av1611.org/hell.html\
What will I wear on the trip?
I would say One of those orange Antarctic Jump suits
that is heavy and insulated, along with goggles and
other Arctic equipment, but that is for going trough
the Polar Opening. Gardner said the inner world was
mostly tropical so I would bring my Class 4 Desert
Camouflage Uniform; Jacket, trousers, and hat to
match, and also a Jungle style uniform.
What will I eat in the inner world?
I assume there is game, fresh water, and wild fruit in
the inner world, but I would bring long lasting energy
food that can last a long time in my pocket; Beef
Jerky, Chocolate Bars, and candy.
Russ
HREF="How Does the Bible REALLY Desribe Hell?">http://www.av1611.org/
hell.html</A>
This recording was featured on Art Bell's show a few years ago.
According to the witness, it was preceded by the emergence of a
horrible winged "demonic" creature which screamed at the
humans around before flying away.
The interview which goes with it may still be at the artbell.com. I
think it was called "hellsound.ra," or "hellsound.ram."
--Mike
Colonel Fawcett discovered bat-people with telepathic powers living in caves
in the Matto Grosso, then there's the Mothman or Orang-Bati, and Chupacabras
has a terrifying 'demonic' piercing, almost metallic-sounding, pitiful
shreik!! Hazel.
Chupacabras:
A friend of mine who grew up in Mexico said that there is a "Grand Canyon,"
in her homeland that dwarfs the Grand Canyon in the USA. There are apparently
many areas that are still unexplored.
MM
If this really happened,and its true then what is in the Hollow Earth? If
its a home for winged demons etc then I wonder if Agharta,and Shamballa are
just a illusion to invite Human FOOD....Kinda like a fly drawn to a bright
bug light...Its beautiful until you touch it(ZAP)...Who is the smokey
God?......What if aliens have snake eyes,and where do snakes live......
this website is a very interesting website on HOLLOW EARTH.....
<A HREF="http://www.hollowplanets.com/journal/mott/J0001Echoes.htm">
http://www.hollowplanets.com/journal/mott/J0001Echoes.htm\
Someone sent an email out a while back that mentioned a farmer shot such a
creature in Australia.
MM
Denounced by the Carabinieri as a 'moulded-clay' figure and hoax, Filiberto
Caponi would dispute that. His first encounter with Chupacabras was on May
9th. 1993, in a small Italian village called Pretare. During the following
six months he saw it several times and photographed it six times, once with
his grandmother present. It had long legs, covered in bandages (?) and short
atrophied arms. It seemed to be suffering, but it could run very fast and
leap over a six foot wall, almost springing like a rubber band. It's skin
appeared brownish and scorched all over. Filiberto felt it had singled him
out for some sort of 'contact' and it permitted him to photograph it, or
perhaps it was oblivious to the intrusion. It's deafening 'metallic-sounding
' scream that echoed in the silence of the night, terrified villagers.
Filiberto's polaroid snaps are unique and prove, 'the truth is out there.'
His story was ridiculed in the gutter press and he was charged with,
disturbing the peace, by spreading false rumours.
What do you think the gaotsucker is, where does it come from and what is it'
s mission? I have a theory, Hazel.
Namaskar machoarm,
God?......
Good question. We have just a few personal accounts, Olaf Jansen's being
one
of them. "Smoky God" is the hollow earth's inhabitants' name for the
inner sun.
I've asked about the Biblical explanation of the underworld at some
Christian site.
I was wondering about why the Nicene Creed mentions that Jesus entered
the hell
and the Apostolic Creed doesn't mention it (or the other way around) and
how it
relates to Paradise where Jesus was obviously heading to right after his
crucifixion
(Luke 23:43: Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will
be with me
in paradise."). They said the Church has no explanation to this passage
As far as the Vedic underworld description goes, it is usually called
"bila" or "vivara"
which both literally mean "hole". The commentators say this relates to
the
seven subterranean planes called "loka" which are of paradisiacal nature
yet inahabited
by demoniac creatures like Nagas (see quotes in my article at
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index11.html). The hellish
lokas are
below them. They are also elaborately described in the Puranas (e.g.
Bhagavata
Purana 5th skanda).
This division of the universe on higher, earthly and lower regions is
also found in the
early Church writings. The person who answered me said that the Church
adopted
the modern science view and I shouldn't stick to the obsolete ideas... I
wonder if
they also adopt the God-less modern view of the universe and reject God
as an
obsolete idea by the same logic. I should have asked him. 8)
Btw, you are mixing two things: hollow earth and earth's shell cavities
(to which the
drilling case pertains). You can't drill to hollow earth because the
earth's shell is
several hundred miles thick.
Sure, because it's by our friend Mike. 8)
Jan
The Paradise Jesus promised the repentant robber, put to death beside him,
IS the underworld of the dead, the Valley of Duat, within the hollow earth.
We all go there through the tunnel when we die. Whether it is hellish or
heavenly, I think, depends on your OWN Karma. Hazel.
I imagine that it is true, but you've got it wrong.
The hollow portion, the cavity, is one thing, and the shellof the Earth, the
crust, is another. Cavern worlds are in the crust.
Dharma/Dean
Agharta,and Shamballa
to a
EARTH.....
The "winged demon" and "hell-hole" account supposedly do
involve an entrance into the "cavern world."
This ties in with other recent posts, regarding Sheol, Paradise,
and the Judeo-Christian view.
According to Christian theology and cosmology, when Christ
descended "into the lower parts of the Earth," he entered a realm
which was divided into two sections, one being a place of
torment (Sheol/the Pit) and the other a place of peaceful rest,
awaiting the day of judgement (Paradise). Christ "freed" the
prisoners in Paradise (the spirit of the thief on the cross having
gone with him "on his coat-tails," as it were: "You will be with me
this day in Paradise," but Christ still had quite some time to
ascend to Heaven, 43 days to be exact, so "Paradise" and
"Heaven," often confused, are not the same place). These "freed
prisoners" were the Old Testament Patriarchs and their people,
whom he took or sent to Heaven upon their release from the
underworld. Recall the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man; the
Rich Man could look from his place of torment and torture
"across a gulf" and see Lazarus the Beggar with Abraham and
the others, in "Paradise." After the Resurrection of Christ,
"Paradise" was abandoned for immediate access to "Heaven,"
as Christ took the keys to "death, hell (sheol) and the grave" from
Satan. In other words, authority over the dead. Christian
cosmology/theology tends to agree that, since the resurrection of
Christ and the abolishment of Paradise as a waiting area for the
Righteous, Sheol has expanded its cavernous realm to include
the former area known as "Paradise."
--Mike
As I understand it both Jesus and the robber went to paradise (the
underworld heaven) but Jesus was fully restored to his body, to return to
his disciples as proof of 'everlasting life.' He then ascended to sit at the
right-hand side of his Father's throne. Hazel.
Jesus said, "My Kingdom, is not of this World" He was referring to heaven,
which must be a perfect 'otherworld.'
Interesting how this topic has come up on Easter day!
The Resurrection of Christ, with the Risen Christ appearing in
physical bodily form and witnessed night and day, over a period
of forty days by over 500 people, recorded by Josephus (a
non-Christian Jew) as a verified fact in his History of the Jews,
as well as by a host of contemporary pagan writers and scholars
(Africanus, Tacitus, and others), is one of the greatest "Fortean"
mysteries of all time.
Note also that the "prisoners in Paradise," the Old Testament
and recently-deceased Jews freed by Christ when he
descended "into the lower regions of the Earth," were said by
both the New Testament chroniclers and by Josephus to have
been seen by witnesses to have been "roaming the streets" in
living bodies before ultimately disappearing.
This ultimate mystery which has generated religions and
civilizations and permeated Western thought for two thousand
years, demonstrates that there is a "real" link between matters
spiritual and physical, and that this can have and has had a
genuine impact on human history. It's interesting to note the
observation of Jaques Vallee, wherein which he states,
somewhat confusedly, that encounters with non-human entities
and predatory beings were rampant in antiquity, but abruptly,
approximately 2000 years ago, this came to a near-stop! He
wonders and postulates why and how this can be.
A change of management and overall authority just might be the
answer.
Best regards and wishes to all,
--Mike
Elementary my dear Motty, but there is one non-human entity still extant.
Chupacabras (my 'pet' subject) I think this is one of the most baffling
phenomena of modern ufology. It always seems to be suffering and has a
deafening 'metallic-sounding' scream.
Chupacabras made an unprecedented appearance from no-where. To my knowledge
there is nothing in past history, describing animals having all their fluids
sucked out, clinically, with the perpetrator leaving no tracks or trace.
(Except in vampire legends.)
Black, silent helicopters are occasionally seen in the immediate area, after
a reported sighting. They also hover around cattle mutilations, where soft
tissues and fluids are removed, no mess, no fuss. It would be easy enough to
dispose of the carcass, but it is just dumped, left to be found.
A creature was caught by the military and firemen of Varginha, Brazil. It
appears to be able to metamorph and also fly, although it has no obvious
wings, it has a sac on it's back that's been seen inflated or deflated. It
looks part Grey alien and part something else!
It could be a genetic hybrid (cyborg) created simply to terrorize, either
unleashed or escaped from the (underground) laboritory complex where it was
invented. Or it could be working for the Greys, collecting bodily fluids,
(in it's sac) for whatever reason! If it needed these fluids for sustenance,
you'd think there would be more instances.
But then, maybe the goatsucker is an ancient earth dweller, from caverns and
crevices and has as much right to be here, as we do. This could be where
vampire lore originated from. Who knows? Hazel.
Hazel, believe me when I state that the physical reality of some of
these creatures of the cavern worlds is without doubt, at least
according to witness reports.
The extreme density of El Chupacabras, its "metallic sound" and
obvious fluid and organ-gathering mission for unseen "others,"
show it to have direct parallels to the genetically-engineered or
cyborg-like creations of the Nephilim, who were the Sumerian
Anunnaki. PAZUZU in particular fits the description, as do other
creatures which "gathered" the fruits of the sacrifice to take to the
bloodthirsty gods below. El Chupacabras also has direct
parallels to the "manticore" of legend, along with various
vampiric and gargoyle-like entities of the middle ages. The
"increased density" of entities like this, of many types, may speak
of an origin in a subterranean region of much greater pressure.
I examine all of these topics in-depth in my book CAVERNS,
CAULDRONS, AND CONCEALED CREATURES, as well as in
other research pieces, where I examine these topics in more
detail.
Another interesting, possibly-related topic, concerns the vampire
myth. The efficacy of garlic, thought to repel vampires, may
actually have a scientific explanation. Regular consumption of
garlic "thins" the blood, removes fats, plaque, and other
substances, and actually alters blood chemistry; perhaps this
makes the blood of victims "unpalatable" or non-nutritious for a
vampiric or blood-drinking creature. I don't think El Chupacabras
fits this description though, as they seem to be on a definite
"mission" for someone else in their predatory activities, a
mission which parallels that of the GALATUR and UTUKKU of
Sumer, while their appearance is more like that of the UTUKKU
or PAZUZU--All of whom, it should be noted, were servants and
errand-runners of the "gods of the underworld."
Best,
--Mike
Members,
Here are Mike Mott's comments about Chupacabras from his book:
During 1975, Puerto Rico was stricken by a mysterious wave of livestock
mutilations, accompanied by UFO sightings. Many times animals were drained
of blood and left like emptied wine-skins for investigators to puzzle over.
Twenty years later, in 1995, things turned really weird.
The mutilations and blood-drainings returned with a vengeance, and over a
two-year period, the "culprit" was seen or encountered first-hand by dozens
of witnesses. Termed "El Chupacabras," or "The Goat-Sucker," the creature
seemed like something out of a cartoonist's nightmare: Described as four to
five feet tall, generally reptilian in appearance, with a kangaroo-like hip-
or haunch-structure, spines along a back-ridge, and a humanoid head with
protruding, incandescent eyes reminiscent of descriptions of the "gray
aliens" of UFOlogy. Sometimes the creatures would be gray-green and
hairless, sometimes they would have flat black or gray fur. With folding
flaps of skin under their arms which connected to their ribcages, they could
purportedly glide like flying squirrels, or fly outright, and they had
three-pronged, retractable mouth-organs used for slicing, dicing, and
sucking blood and fluids.
At first it was thought that the sightings were surely an elaborate hoax, or
simply hysteria, until the sheer number of incidents and reports reached
overwhelming proportions. Hair was obtained from one mutilation site, and
analyzed by a Japanese lab; while deemed to be "similar to the hair of a
wolf," it was labeled as coming from an animal which was "unknown."
The creature was a typical cryptid in some respects, seemingly popping in
and out of existence at a moment's notice, and generating fear and confusion
all over the island. From Puerto Rico, the Chupacabras events quickly spread
to the rest of Latin America, including Mexico, South Florida, and the
desert southwest of the United States. This marked it as a distinctly
cultural phenomenon (Hispanic), but that by no means indicates that it was
not genuinely taking place. A connection was soon suspected in Puerto Rico
between El Chupacabras and the mountainous, rainforested region of El
Yunque, which is honey-combed with mostly-unexplored cavern systems. In
fact, caverns underlie much of the island. Several witnesses reported seeing
the creature or creatures fleeing to the El Yunque region, when discovered
or pursued. Soon, other parts of the Spanish-speaking world were reaching
similar conclusions. And, like the demons of old, an acrid, debilitating
foul odor often accompanied the visits of the beast.
One brave soul, Jesus Sanchez, was victimized repeatedly, his rabbits being
drained of blood. Finally, at four in the morning, he surprised the invader
by blinding it with a bright light. When it rushed to escape, he struck it
with a machete, only to discover that "the blow sounded as if it had hit a
drum." The creature, unscathed, made its disappearance as usual.
What is to be made of a report like this? How can a creature both "have
hair," yet "sound like a drum" when struck (or shot, for that matter), and
escape unharmed? Why the almost methodical and indeed selective nature of
the animal mutilations? Sometimes only blood was taken; other times,
specific organs like livers would be missing. It should be noted that blood
and the "meaty organs" were the very items offered to the dark gods of
antiquity, in the ancient Middle East and even in Pre-Columbian America. The
description of El Chupacabras is very reminiscent of that of the Sumerian
Utukku, or even of the Gala, and of the Egyptian Ushabtiu, designated as
"artificial" lifeforms (yet no less alive) created to do the bidding of the
lords of the underworld. Maybe times are tough in the subterranean realms,
and the "gods" have taken to stealing the substances which are no longer
offered to them; or could it be that the Nagas are coming out to play?
Okay...Let's pretend our expedition made it in
through the north polar opening and reached the inner
world...
Now What?!
What is the purpose of the expedition?
To take some vacation Photos?
To collect samples?
To take some Notes?
To search for the "Lost Soviet Fliers"?
To meet the inner earth civilizations?
To chase around after Ghosts?*
To look for UFOs?
To steal some dinosaur eggs?
To do some back flips?
To do some Cartwheels?
To put on some Disco music?
Other?
What is our mission?!
What is our central objective?!
Gimme some details.
Russ
*I can assure you I am not Going to spend all my time
in the inner earth chasing around after Ghosts.
All of the above (and below) just to prove we were right! Can I book my
passage now, as the ship's artist? Or has Mike Mott been given that
privilege? Hazel.