Vedruss civilisation of ancient Siberia : Inexplicable similarity of Sanskrit & Russian language

Folks , this connection is almost mesmerising...Jambudwipa of the Vedas , Hyperborea of the Greek legends and the Hollow Earth civilisation as described by Olaf Jansen - it all seems to converge into a civilisation of EXTREME antiquity in the high Arctic . Like they say it's so far back in prehistory that even time itself seems to have forgotten...

https://www.ringingcedarsofrussia.org/ringing-cedars/pendants-amulets.html

In search of the Vedruss civilization.
The inexplicable similarity of Sanskrit and Russian.

The Vedruss civilization, which Anastasia discusses, sank into oblivion in the distant past. It disappeared so long ago that finding traces of its existence is a complicated matter.
Because of numerous wars, revolutions, and mass movements of ancient peoples, there remain for us no literary sources regarding the existence
of this civilization. But folklore and tales have remained, which transmit ancient histories and traditions in allegorical form. The language also remains. It is the language we shall talk about in this article.

As early as the 19th century, linguists noticed the connection between Sanskrit and the European languages, especially the Slavic languages.

For many centuries, Sanskrit was the official language in India, just as Latin was in Europe. Sanskrit is used as the
language of the liturgy, the holy texts - the Vedas. All the mantras that are repeated during yoga exercises are spoken in Sanskrit. As noted by linguists who are familiar with Sanskrit, this language is an ideal, perfect language, capable of expressing any shades of meaning, even the most subtle. For this reason it is called the language of consciousness, or the language of Nature. This most ancient language - today dead - is considered to be the father of all languages of the Indo-European group.

In all European languages are found a great number of words having the same root, but the common ground ends there. But in the Slavic languages, in addition to the coincidence of 60% of word roots, the very structures of the languages, which change the least
over time, are identical.

In 1963, Durga Prasad Shastri, an Indian professor of Sanskritology, arrived in Moscow. After several days, he declined to use an interpreter, since the people around him, he claimed,
were speaking some form of ancient Sanskrit, and he understood them.

From the lecture "Link Between Russian and Sanskrit" given on Feb 22 1964 in Moscow by Prof. Durga Prasad Shastri at the Indo-Soviet Cultural Society:

** "If I were asked what two languages of the world
resembled each other most, I would reply without hesitation: 'Russian and Sanskrit.'...**

When I went to Moscow, the Manager of my hotel game me the key for Room No. 234 and said: 'Dwesti tridtsat chetire'. For a moment I could not understand whether I was standing before a pretty girl in Moscow or I was in Banaras or Ujjain of our classical period of some 2,000 years ago. In Sanskrit 234 is 'Dwishat tridasha chatwar.'

When I was visiting village Kachalovo, 25 km from Moscow I met there a lady in her fifties. She introduced me to her son and daughter-in-law: "On moy seen i ona moya snokha" [Hi is my son and she is my daughter-in-law].

How I wished that Panini, the great Indian grammarian who lived some 2,800 years ago, could listen to the language of his own times so wonderfully preserved with the least possible variations in this part of the world.

** The Russian word "seen'[syn] is 'son' in English, and 'soonu' in Sankskrit. Also, 'madiy' of Sanskrit may be compared with 'moy' of Russian and 'my' of English. But it is only Russian and Sanskrit in which the possessive pronoun 'moy' and 'madiy' must be changed to 'moya'
and 'madiya' because it qualifies the word 'snokha' [daughter-in-law] which is feminine. The Russian word 'snokha' is 'snukha' in Sanskrit and
can be pronounced either way. Here the relationship goes beyond the son
on to the wife of the son too by similar words in both languages."**
Here is another Russian sentence; 'To vash dom, etot nash dom'. [That is your house, this is our house] In Sanskrit it is: 'tat vas dham, etat nas dham.'

The young languages of the Indo-European group, such as English, French, German, and even Hindi, which directly goes back to Sanskrit, must use the verb 'is,' without which the sentences given above cannot exist in any one of these languages. Only Russian and Sanskrit can manage without the link verb 'is,' while remaining completely correct, both grammatically and idiomatically.

The word 'is' is also very similar in both, 'est' in Russian and 'asti' in Sanskrit and yet another 'estestvo' in Russian and 'Astitva' in Sanskrit meaning 'existence' in both..."

** Further comparative studies of the two languages
revealed common laws for the transformation of pronouns into adverbs, of verbal nouns, similar rules for the declension of nouns and the conjugation of verbs, changes of adjectives according to gender and number, etc. Both languages use both prefixes and suffixes in an equivalent manner, prefixes and suffixes that impart to the newly formed
words not only a close, but almost identical meaning (not to mention a significant similarity in sound).**

But several scholars have gone further. The Indian historian B. G. Tilak analyzed the hymns of the Rig Veda and offered his conclusions in the work The Arctic Home in the Vedas, which was first published in 1903. In this book, Tilak translates and analyzes the hymns of the Rig Veda, which contain a number of indications that their authors were familiar with the natural realities of the Arctic, which were accurately and systematically reflected in the
prayers addressed to those gods to whom were attributed the role of manifestations of atmospheric forces and terrestrial phenomena. Moreover, Tilak revealed in the hymns the path of the increase in the duration of the "sun months" corresponding to the movement of the ancient inhabitants of the polar region from north to south. He also suggests that those persons who brought the Vedas to India had blue eyes
and light hair. And his most important conclusion is admittedly the suggestion that the distant ancestors of all Indo-Europeans underwent their initial formation in the last interglacial period, which lasted from 100,000 to 35,000 years BCE. The beginning of the last ice age displaced the people to the south, to the mainland, where their further dispersal began.




White Gods. Shiva





White Gods. Shiva





Sanskrit and Russian

God Shiva (or Rudra in Rig Veda) is often depicted as blond man with blue eyes and pale skin.
Tilak was able to understand and decipher the contents of the priestly texts of all Vedic literature with such thoroughness, perhaps, by virtue of the fact that he was born and grew up in a family of Brahmins, and from his childhood heard the Brahmins' performances in song and their explanations of the hymns. His further education broadened his knowledge of the Vedas, and in addition helped him penetrate the secret meaning of their many allegories and metaphors,
penetrate the conventional secret language of magical appeals to the gods, a language beyond the comprehension of Western investigators.

In the 20th century, representatives of all sciences involving the distant past (paleoclimatology, geology, oceanology, glaciology, etc.) confirmed that, until the last glaciation,
a warm climate prevailed in the areas of the high northern latitudes. The dry land that once existed there was swallowed by the ocean after the melting of the glaciers, and in our northern seas only islands and extensive areas of shelves and shoals remain of it. On these most ancient lands, the human groups of our common distant ancestors once arose and developed.




Sanskrit and Russian

"Departure of the Hyperboreans" by Vsevolod Ivanov
It is possible that these northern people, who spoke a "Common Slavic" language, which subsequently became Sanskrit and
is preserved as a living language in the Slavic languages, could have been the Vedrusses themselves, and that it is in the Arctic where traces
of their vital activities must be sought.

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Siddhartha,

Yes, the Slavics speak a ramification of Sanskrit, the northern Europeans, too.

And they are so close to the polar opening. If you want to know how something is, but can't see into it; look at the thing next to it and you'll get an idea.

Olaf Jansen said that they speak a language that seemed like Sanskrit.

Dean

Dean , the Hyperborean civilisation likely extended from Hollow Earth to some portions of the high Arctic (such as Siberia). This is why one can still find vague traces ,a faint echo of that distant past , in the region around Lake Seydozero/Lovozero .

I now believe , what Olaf Jansen saw was the portion of Hyperborea that still exists in Hollow Earth (was called Jambudwipa) in the Vedas . Many of the Rig Vedic hymns that B.G. Tilak has interpreted in his iconic work "Arctic home of the Vedas" point towards such a possibility .

Vedic scholars have always struggled to explain cryptic references by the Vedic sages to the Aurora Borealis for example...you don't get to see the Aurora Borealis from South Asia .

The only way to explain this bizarre anomaly in the Vedic texts is to allow for the possibility that at some point in the very , very distant past the Vedic ancestors of present day Indian population had inhabited somewhere in the Arctic region...the strange genetic affinity between people of India and Siberia is a clue...

The striking linguistic similarities are also a very strong proof point...you see , anthropologists always give a LOT of weightage to linguistic connections and rightly so ,because language is one of the defining characteristics of human society and it's origins...

Regards

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On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 9:00:28 AM GMT+5:30, [email protected] [ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW] [email protected] wrote:

Siddhartha,

Yes, the Slavics speak a ramification of Sanskrit, the northern Europeans, too.

And they are so close to the polar opening. If you want to know how something is, but can't see into it; look at the thing next to it and you'll get an idea.

Olaf Jansen said that they speak a language that seemed like Sanskrit.

Dean

Sidhartha,

Hyperboria, of course, is a Greek term, but that culture offers us no written expplanations about hyperbioria, although the Greeks knew of it.

The Puranas conserve written history telling that the incarnation Parasurama confronted 21 warrior communities in the hollow earth, and exiled them. So they had to leave and settle on the outside rim, probably the Arctic continental shelf.

But I wouldn't interpret that there was any separate people or civilization, they were the same people, but they just had a war with each other, so to speak.

Any there was really no great distance between them, either, especially if we factor in vimana technology. Olaf spoke of magnetic trains that were lifted off the ground.

Dean

Dean in terms of chronology , here is what it looks like for the Hindu texts , starting from the oldest to the "relatively" recent :

  1. Rig Veda - Composed by sages at an extremely ancient time , the first few chapters have hymns relating to an unknown geography

  2. Yajur Veda

  3. Sam Veda

  4. Atharva Veda - has some overlap with Persian civilisation that arose as an offshoot from the Vedic mainstream . The Avesta of the Zorastrians in ancient Persia , was written in a dialect that is very similar to Vedic Sanskrit

  5. Upanishads - Composed in South Asia

  6. Puranas - Composed in the Indian subcontinent

  7. Ramayana - Composed in Indian subcontinent , describes events that occurred in South Asia , about 5,000 B.C.

  8. Mahabharat - Composed in Indian subcontinent , describes events that occurred in South Asia , about 3,000 B.C.

Regards

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On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 7:38:10 PM GMT+5:30, [email protected] [ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW] [email protected] wrote:

Sidhartha,

Hyperboria, of course, is a Greek term, but that culture offers us no written expplanations about hyperbioria, although the Greeks knew of it.

The Puranas conserve written history telling that the incarnation Parasurama confronted 21 warrior communities in the hollow earth, and exiled them. So they had to leave and settle on the outside rim, probably the Arctic continental shelf.

But I wouldn't interpret that there was any separate people or civilization, they were the same people, but they just had a war with each other, so to speak.

Any there was really no great distance between them, either, especially if we factor in vimana technology. Olaf spoke of magnetic trains that were lifted off the ground.

Dean

Sidhartha,

The Bhagavatam tells of unknown geography because it tells that Krishna and his brother Balaram jumped off an 80 mile high mountain. It must have been in the interior, obviously.

Jarasandha was spoken of in this particular pastime, and Jarasandha had formed alliances with the kings of the interior around that time.

I should be able to write a bit more tonight.

Dean

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Em sábado, setembro 7, 2019, 14:44, sidhartha bahadur [email protected] [ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW] [email protected] escreveu:

Dean in terms of chronology , here is what it looks like for the Hindu texts , starting from the oldest to the "relatively" recent :

  1. Rig Veda - Composed by sages at an extremely ancient time , the first few chapters have hymns relating to an unknown geography
  1. Yajur Veda
  1. Sam Veda
  1. Atharva Veda - has some overlap with Persian civilisation that arose as an offshoot from the Vedic mainstream . The Avesta of the Zorastrians in ancient Persia , was written in a dialect that is very similar to Vedic Sanskrit
  1. Upanishads - Composed in South Asia
  1. Puranas - Composed in the Indian subcontinent
  1. Ramayana - Composed in Indian subcontinent , describes events that occurred in South Asia , about 5,000 B.C.
  1. Mahabharat - Composed in Indian subcontinent , describes events that occurred in South Asia , about 3,000 B.C.

Regards

On Saturday, September 7, 2019, 7:38:10 PM GMT+5:30, [email protected] [ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW] [email protected] wrote:

Sidhartha,

Hyperboria, of course, is a Greek term, but that culture offers us no written expplanations about hyperbioria, although the Greeks knew of it.

The Puranas conserve written history telling that the incarnation Parasurama confronted 21 warrior communities in the hollow earth, and exiled them. So they had to leave and settle on the outside rim, probably the Arctic continental shelf.

But I wouldn't interpret that there was any separate people or civilization, they were the same people, but they just had a war with each other, so to speak.

Any there was really no great distance between them, either, especially if we factor in vimana technology. Olaf spoke of magnetic trains that were lifted off the ground.

Dean

Sidhartha,

And there was the continent of Mu, perhaps the hymns could be referring to it; or geography of the hollow earth.

Dean

Really glad to see this topic coming up here again. I've had some more discussion on this topic recently off-list in conjunction with the Russian-Sanskrit dictionary effort and some other things. This is such a critically important topic.

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On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:51 PM sidhartha bahadur [email protected] [ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW] [email protected] wrote:

Folks , this connection is almost mesmerising...Jambudwipa of the Vedas , Hyperborea of the Greek legends and the Hollow Earth civilisation as described by Olaf Jansen - it all seems to converge into a civilisation of EXTREME antiquity in the high Arctic . Like they say it's so far back in prehistory that even time itself seems to have forgotten...

https://www.ringingcedarsofrussia.org/ringing-cedars/pendants-amulets.html

In search of the Vedruss civilization.
The inexplicable similarity of Sanskrit and Russian.

The Vedruss civilization, which Anastasia discusses, sank into oblivion in the distant past. It disappeared so long ago that finding traces of its existence is a complicated matter.
Because of numerous wars, revolutions, and mass movements of ancient peoples, there remain for us no literary sources regarding the existence
of this civilization. But folklore and tales have remained, which transmit ancient histories and traditions in allegorical form. The language also remains. It is the language we shall talk about in this article.

As early as the 19th century, linguists noticed the connection between Sanskrit and the European languages, especially the Slavic languages.

For many centuries, Sanskrit was the official language in India, just as Latin was in Europe. Sanskrit is used as the
language of the liturgy, the holy texts - the Vedas. All the mantras that are repeated during yoga exercises are spoken in Sanskrit. As noted by linguists who are familiar with Sanskrit, this language is an ideal, perfect language, capable of expressing any shades of meaning, even the most subtle. For this reason it is called the language of consciousness, or the language of Nature. This most ancient language - today dead - is considered to be the father of all languages of the Indo-European group.

In all European languages are found a great number of words having the same root, but the common ground ends there. But in the Slavic languages, in addition to the coincidence of 60% of word roots, the very structures of the languages, which change the least
over time, are identical.

In 1963, Durga Prasad Shastri, an Indian professor of Sanskritology, arrived in Moscow. After several days, he declined to use an interpreter, since the people around him, he claimed,
were speaking some form of ancient Sanskrit, and he understood them.

From the lecture "Link Between Russian and Sanskrit" given on Feb 22 1964 in Moscow by Prof. Durga Prasad Shastri at the Indo-Soviet Cultural Society:

** "If I were asked what two languages of the world
resembled each other most, I would reply without hesitation: 'Russian and Sanskrit.'...**

When I went to Moscow, the Manager of my hotel game me the key for Room No. 234 and said: 'Dwesti tridtsat chetire'. For a moment I could not understand whether I was standing before a pretty girl in Moscow or I was in Banaras or Ujjain of our classical period of some 2,000 years ago. In Sanskrit 234 is 'Dwishat tridasha chatwar.'

When I was visiting village Kachalovo, 25 km from Moscow I met there a lady in her fifties. She introduced me to her son and daughter-in-law: "On moy seen i ona moya snokha" [Hi is my son and she is my daughter-in-law].

How I wished that Panini, the great Indian grammarian who lived some 2,800 years ago, could listen to the language of his own times so wonderfully preserved with the least possible variations in this part of the world.

** The Russian word "seen'[syn] is 'son' in English, and 'soonu' in Sankskrit. Also, 'madiy' of Sanskrit may be compared with 'moy' of Russian and 'my' of English. But it is only Russian and Sanskrit in which the possessive pronoun 'moy' and 'madiy' must be changed to 'moya'
and 'madiya' because it qualifies the word 'snokha' [daughter-in-law] which is feminine. The Russian word 'snokha' is 'snukha' in Sanskrit and
can be pronounced either way. Here the relationship goes beyond the son
on to the wife of the son too by similar words in both languages."**
Here is another Russian sentence; 'To vash dom, etot nash dom'. [That is your house, this is our house] In Sanskrit it is: 'tat vas dham, etat nas dham.'

The young languages of the Indo-European group, such as English, French, German, and even Hindi, which directly goes back to Sanskrit, must use the verb 'is,' without which the sentences given above cannot exist in any one of these languages. Only Russian and Sanskrit can manage without the link verb 'is,' while remaining completely correct, both grammatically and idiomatically.

The word 'is' is also very similar in both, 'est' in Russian and 'asti' in Sanskrit and yet another 'estestvo' in Russian and 'Astitva' in Sanskrit meaning 'existence' in both..."

** Further comparative studies of the two languages
revealed common laws for the transformation of pronouns into adverbs, of verbal nouns, similar rules for the declension of nouns and the conjugation of verbs, changes of adjectives according to gender and number, etc. Both languages use both prefixes and suffixes in an equivalent manner, prefixes and suffixes that impart to the newly formed
words not only a close, but almost identical meaning (not to mention a significant similarity in sound).**

But several scholars have gone further. The Indian historian B. G. Tilak analyzed the hymns of the Rig Veda and offered his conclusions in the work The Arctic Home in the Vedas, which was first published in 1903. In this book, Tilak translates and analyzes the hymns of the Rig Veda, which contain a number of indications that their authors were familiar with the natural realities of the Arctic, which were accurately and systematically reflected in the
prayers addressed to those gods to whom were attributed the role of manifestations of atmospheric forces and terrestrial phenomena. Moreover, Tilak revealed in the hymns the path of the increase in the duration of the "sun months" corresponding to the movement of the ancient inhabitants of the polar region from north to south. He also suggests that those persons who brought the Vedas to India had blue eyes
and light hair. And his most important conclusion is admittedly the suggestion that the distant ancestors of all Indo-Europeans underwent their initial formation in the last interglacial period, which lasted from 100,000 to 35,000 years BCE. The beginning of the last ice age displaced the people to the south, to the mainland, where their further dispersal began.




White Gods. Shiva





White Gods. Shiva





Sanskrit and Russian

God Shiva (or Rudra in Rig Veda) is often depicted as blond man with blue eyes and pale skin.
Tilak was able to understand and decipher the contents of the priestly texts of all Vedic literature with such thoroughness, perhaps, by virtue of the fact that he was born and grew up in a family of Brahmins, and from his childhood heard the Brahmins' performances in song and their explanations of the hymns. His further education broadened his knowledge of the Vedas, and in addition helped him penetrate the secret meaning of their many allegories and metaphors,
penetrate the conventional secret language of magical appeals to the gods, a language beyond the comprehension of Western investigators.

In the 20th century, representatives of all sciences involving the distant past (paleoclimatology, geology, oceanology, glaciology, etc.) confirmed that, until the last glaciation,
a warm climate prevailed in the areas of the high northern latitudes. The dry land that once existed there was swallowed by the ocean after the melting of the glaciers, and in our northern seas only islands and extensive areas of shelves and shoals remain of it. On these most ancient lands, the human groups of our common distant ancestors once arose and developed.




Sanskrit and Russian

"Departure of the Hyperboreans" by Vsevolod Ivanov
It is possible that these northern people, who spoke a "Common Slavic" language, which subsequently became Sanskrit and
is preserved as a living language in the Slavic languages, could have been the Vedrusses themselves, and that it is in the Arctic where traces
of their vital activities must be sought.

Copyright: http://www.krivandino.ru/
Translation Copyright http://www.ringingcedarsofrussia.org/
Images Copyright: http://clubs.ya.ru/

Soretna , sample this - I've picked it up again from an earlier mail thread , especially the highlights in red :

Expeditions

Numerous
expeditions were arranged to this land, which are worth being separately described. One of the first trips to Lake Seydozero took place in 1887, when the lake was included in the Great Kola Expedition route. Another expedition was arranged in 1922 by the order of Felix Dzerzhinsky and was headed by Alexander Barchenko. Since Barchenko cooperated with Academician Vladimir Bekhterev, the official purpose of the trip was to investigate an unusual mental disorder called Meryachenie (from the Yakut menerik – “do strange things”) or as Eskimos call it “the call of the Polaris”. Such disorder could emerge
in several people simultaneously and was manifested as a sort of an obsession.

Below, there are records of an interview with the traveller and geologist Alexander Gurvits who spent 50 years collecting and studying information about one of A. Barchenko’s expeditions.

“Alexander Borisovich, who arranged the expedition, and what was its goal?”

“Based on information available from numerous open sources, in September 1922 the special (cryptography) department of the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission (VCheka) sent a unique expedition to Luyavrurt mountain range in the centre of Kola Peninsula* . The expedition was headed by Alexander Vasilyevich Barchenko, a writer and a
person with versatile education in biology, geography, geology, and history. Alexander Alexandrovich Kondiayn was appointed the expedition deputy head on science. He was an astrologist, astronomer and translator
from several languages including Hindi, Chinese and Japanese. Most probably, Barchenko had the task to discover a depository of “ancient knowledge” and find information on technology of nuclear and psychotronic weapons production.”*

“Did they manage to fulfil the task?”

“Nobody knows for sure, because all participants and organizers of the expedition were executed by shooting in 1930s, whereas the expedition archives and their personal archives got into the special depository of NKVD. The veil over the expedition mystery was lifted owing to an article by MoscowUniversity professor Valery Demin, published in 1997 in Science and Religion magazine.”

Preserved records

“So, the expedition was formed in Petrograd and left for Murmansk**in 1921. They spent a year on preparations: procurement of equipment, devices and foodstuff, selection of participants and guides.

Murmansk * Regional Economy Conference that provided Barchenko with relevant permits on environmental examination of Lovozero
area served as official covering of the expedition. In early September 1922 researchers, having covered* 65 kilometres by boats across Lake Lovozero (Luyavr), landed on the bank of Motka Guba bay and arranged a base camp from where they started taking radial routs.”

“If all the expedition participants were shot and archives restricted, where has information about the routes appeared from?”

“From remains of personal records made by Alexander Kondiayn. Before he was arrested, he managed to forward a part of his field diary to his kinswoman in Perm. * Nevertheless, today it’s difficult to make any conclusions on accurate routes of the expedition in Luyavrurt, as well as on their finds and discoveries. All requests by
Valery Demin to get access to Barchenko’s archives, in particular to the expedition materials, have been rejected.”*

The lotus flower

“Information about the expedition to “Northern Shambala
had to be collected literally by pieces. Especially valuable data were obtained from works by A.P. Tomashevsky who participated in Roerich’s trip to
Himalayas* , Major General G.I. Sinegubov, and polar aviation Lieutenant Colonel L.M. Vyatkin who’s now a historian and
writer… Works by the German historian* ArnoldSchoetzand the Finish researcher Christina Lehmus were helpful as well: they gave a precise answer to the question why in quest of ancient knowledge Barchenko had gone to a specific place instead of examining the entire Kola Peninsula metre by metre. In the library of the University of Lapland Schoetz found Nicholas Roerich’s diaries describing his stay in Karelia* in 1917-18. Moreover, one of the diaries mentioned Roerich had visited Luyavrurt and discovered a bricked-up entrance with a lotus-shaped stone
lock.”*

“Yet, what does it have to do with Barchenko and his expedition?”

  • “It is ascertained that Roerich was acquainted with Barchenko owing to their literary activities: their writings were published in one
    and the same* St. Petersburg * journal, and they were in
    regular correspondence. Possibly, in one of his letters Roerich told Barchenko about the exact location of the depository entrance, for, according to Christina Lehmus, when Roerich earlier was in Karelia he attended a restricted historical archive in the University of Helsinki and discovered a brief report on a Luyavrurt expedition of the university professors led by ornithologist Johann Palm in summer 1897…”*

Luyavrurt and *Lake Seydozero * – a way to the unknown

“In translation from the Sami language lu means “stormy”, yavr means “a lake”, and urt means “a mountain”. Altogether, this means “a mountain near a stormy lake”. It’s a volcano that has been extinct for 300 million years and is severely ruined. The total area of the lava cone base is 550 square kilometres. The mountain massive is up to 1,000 metres in height; eroded by cirques on the outer side, it rises above tundra.

Inside the mountain mass there is a hollow of 40 square kilometres, filled with Lake Seydozero waters (in Sami Seydozero sounds as Сейдъявврь (Seydyavr), where сейд (seid) means “sacred”, явр (yavr) means “lake”, altogether meaning “the sacred lake”). 12 rivers and streams that don’t freeze even during the polar night flow into the lake.

The entire mountain mass is cut by deep canyons. The northwest part of the lake is bounded by a sheer rock on which a 74-metre-high black statue of the Sami giant Kuyva is clearly visible. According to Sami legend, ages ago a foreign enemy tribe attacked the Sami land, but the main shaman’s spell pinned the “foreign beast” to the wall or instilled their spirit into a stone. Perhaps, the lake name originated from this very legend. The Sami people fear and avoid this place, recommending tourists not to photograph Kuyva.”

“Well, perhaps, the entrance to the underground depository of an ancient civilization should be looked for somewhere near the statue on the rock?”

“I agree. As a matter of fact, this very black figure was mentioned by Johann Palm, Nicholas Roerich and Alexander Kondiayn in their diaries…

Another strangeness of the Kuyva bas-relief is that it does not get destroyed due to atmospheric erosion, as distinct from the rock on which the bas-relief is placed…

  • However, the main peculiarity of Luyavrurt is the solidified magma stem of six kilometres in diameter. Geologists have ascertained Luyavrurt was formed by ultra-alkaline lava streaming to the earth surface without explosions or ashes, like cream squeezed out of a tube. Therefore, no craters should be there. At the same time, the lava structure indicates cracks appear due to compression upon cooling, which
    implies a possible existence of big internal faults within the solidified magma stem of Luyavrurt. Such faults – the enormous natural halls – can be up to* 30 metres in height and over a square kilometre in area… Maybe, what is sought for is in those very halls.”

There are also interesting references in A. Novykh’s books, hinting at another possible purpose of expeditions headed by Barchenko, including expeditions to Crimea (Bakhchysarai area and the Southern Seacoast) and to Altai.

Really glad to see this topic coming up here again. I've had some more discussion on this topic recently off-list in conjunction with the Russian-Sanskrit dictionary effort and some other things. This is such a critically important topic.

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On Sunday, September 8, 2019, 10:44:53 AM GMT+5:30, Soretna [email protected] [ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW] [email protected] wrote:

On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:51 PM sidhartha bahadur [email protected] [ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW] [email protected] wrote:

Folks , this connection is almost mesmerising...Jambudwipa of the Vedas , Hyperborea of the Greek legends and the Hollow Earth civilisation as described by Olaf Jansen - it all seems to converge into a civilisation of EXTREME antiquity in the high Arctic . Like they say it's so far back in prehistory that even time itself seems to have forgotten...

https://www.ringingcedarsofrussia.org/ringing-cedars/pendants-amulets.html

In search of the Vedruss civilization.
The inexplicable similarity of Sanskrit and Russian.

The Vedruss civilization, which Anastasia discusses, sank into oblivion in the distant past. It disappeared so long ago that finding traces of its existence is a complicated matter.
Because of numerous wars, revolutions, and mass movements of ancient peoples, there remain for us no literary sources regarding the existence
of this civilization. But folklore and tales have remained, which transmit ancient histories and traditions in allegorical form. The language also remains. It is the language we shall talk about in this article.

As early as the 19th century, linguists noticed the connection between Sanskrit and the European languages, especially the Slavic languages.

For many centuries, Sanskrit was the official language in India, just as Latin was in Europe. Sanskrit is used as the
language of the liturgy, the holy texts - the Vedas. All the mantras that are repeated during yoga exercises are spoken in Sanskrit. As noted by linguists who are familiar with Sanskrit, this language is an ideal, perfect language, capable of expressing any shades of meaning, even the most subtle. For this reason it is called the language of consciousness, or the language of Nature. This most ancient language - today dead - is considered to be the father of all languages of the Indo-European group.

In all European languages are found a great number of words having the same root, but the common ground ends there. But in the Slavic languages, in addition to the coincidence of 60% of word roots, the very structures of the languages, which change the least
over time, are identical.

In 1963, Durga Prasad Shastri, an Indian professor of Sanskritology, arrived in Moscow. After several days, he declined to use an interpreter, since the people around him, he claimed,
were speaking some form of ancient Sanskrit, and he understood them.

From the lecture "Link Between Russian and Sanskrit" given on Feb 22 1964 in Moscow by Prof. Durga Prasad Shastri at the Indo-Soviet Cultural Society:

** "If I were asked what two languages of the world
resembled each other most, I would reply without hesitation: 'Russian and Sanskrit.'...**

When I went to Moscow, the Manager of my hotel game me the key for Room No. 234 and said: 'Dwesti tridtsat chetire'. For a moment I could not understand whether I was standing before a pretty girl in Moscow or I was in Banaras or Ujjain of our classical period of some 2,000 years ago. In Sanskrit 234 is 'Dwishat tridasha chatwar.'

When I was visiting village Kachalovo, 25 km from Moscow I met there a lady in her fifties. She introduced me to her son and daughter-in-law: "On moy seen i ona moya snokha" [Hi is my son and she is my daughter-in-law].

How I wished that Panini, the great Indian grammarian who lived some 2,800 years ago, could listen to the language of his own times so wonderfully preserved with the least possible variations in this part of the world.

** The Russian word "seen'[syn] is 'son' in English, and 'soonu' in Sankskrit. Also, 'madiy' of Sanskrit may be compared with 'moy' of Russian and 'my' of English. But it is only Russian and Sanskrit in which the possessive pronoun 'moy' and 'madiy' must be changed to 'moya'
and 'madiya' because it qualifies the word 'snokha' [daughter-in-law] which is feminine. The Russian word 'snokha' is 'snukha' in Sanskrit and
can be pronounced either way. Here the relationship goes beyond the son
on to the wife of the son too by similar words in both languages."**
Here is another Russian sentence; 'To vash dom, etot nash dom'. [That is your house, this is our house] In Sanskrit it is: 'tat vas dham, etat nas dham.'

The young languages of the Indo-European group, such as English, French, German, and even Hindi, which directly goes back to Sanskrit, must use the verb 'is,' without which the sentences given above cannot exist in any one of these languages. Only Russian and Sanskrit can manage without the link verb 'is,' while remaining completely correct, both grammatically and idiomatically.

The word 'is' is also very similar in both, 'est' in Russian and 'asti' in Sanskrit and yet another 'estestvo' in Russian and 'Astitva' in Sanskrit meaning 'existence' in both..."

** Further comparative studies of the two languages
revealed common laws for the transformation of pronouns into adverbs, of verbal nouns, similar rules for the declension of nouns and the conjugation of verbs, changes of adjectives according to gender and number, etc. Both languages use both prefixes and suffixes in an equivalent manner, prefixes and suffixes that impart to the newly formed
words not only a close, but almost identical meaning (not to mention a significant similarity in sound).**

But several scholars have gone further. The Indian historian B. G. Tilak analyzed the hymns of the Rig Veda and offered his conclusions in the work The Arctic Home in the Vedas, which was first published in 1903. In this book, Tilak translates and analyzes the hymns of the Rig Veda, which contain a number of indications that their authors were familiar with the natural realities of the Arctic, which were accurately and systematically reflected in the
prayers addressed to those gods to whom were attributed the role of manifestations of atmospheric forces and terrestrial phenomena. Moreover, Tilak revealed in the hymns the path of the increase in the duration of the "sun months" corresponding to the movement of the ancient inhabitants of the polar region from north to south. He also suggests that those persons who brought the Vedas to India had blue eyes
and light hair. And his most important conclusion is admittedly the suggestion that the distant ancestors of all Indo-Europeans underwent their initial formation in the last interglacial period, which lasted from 100,000 to 35,000 years BCE. The beginning of the last ice age displaced the people to the south, to the mainland, where their further dispersal began.




White Gods. Shiva





White Gods. Shiva





Sanskrit and Russian

God Shiva (or Rudra in Rig Veda) is often depicted as blond man with blue eyes and pale skin.
Tilak was able to understand and decipher the contents of the priestly texts of all Vedic literature with such thoroughness, perhaps, by virtue of the fact that he was born and grew up in a family of Brahmins, and from his childhood heard the Brahmins' performances in song and their explanations of the hymns. His further education broadened his knowledge of the Vedas, and in addition helped him penetrate the secret meaning of their many allegories and metaphors,
penetrate the conventional secret language of magical appeals to the gods, a language beyond the comprehension of Western investigators.

In the 20th century, representatives of all sciences involving the distant past (paleoclimatology, geology, oceanology, glaciology, etc.) confirmed that, until the last glaciation,
a warm climate prevailed in the areas of the high northern latitudes. The dry land that once existed there was swallowed by the ocean after the melting of the glaciers, and in our northern seas only islands and extensive areas of shelves and shoals remain of it. On these most ancient lands, the human groups of our common distant ancestors once arose and developed.




Sanskrit and Russian

"Departure of the Hyperboreans" by Vsevolod Ivanov
It is possible that these northern people, who spoke a "Common Slavic" language, which subsequently became Sanskrit and
is preserved as a living language in the Slavic languages, could have been the Vedrusses themselves, and that it is in the Arctic where traces
of their vital activities must be sought.

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