Underground creatures, especially the reptillian type

Members,

I am really inspired by Mike Mott's book and all the evidence
that
he has gathered with reference to underground creatures, especially the
reptillian type. The Mahabharat speaks of naga serpents living
beneath the
surface. Here is a snip of a narration from the Bhagavat Purana
concerning
Krishna and the taming of the seprent Kaliya. Kaliya lived in the
same type
of place where other serpents are typically found, according to
Mike's book-
in a lake.

As far as Krishna's ability to best the snake, know that the
Vishnu/Krishna
forms usually come to the rescue of the celestial civilization
described in
the Puranas when they are overcome by asuras- " demons." Earlier in
the
work, after being petitioned by celestial beings, Vishnu had promised
to
incarnate as a cowherd in a certain family and deal with the demon
threat.
So that's not just anybody dancing on the serpent's head, that is
the "
Master of Mystics " who incarnated with this purpose and who
eventually
wound up speaking the Bhagavad Gita.

This is only one demon which corresponds to some of Mike's evidence
and even
comments from Etidorhpa. Notice also that the serpent was accompanied
by
human wives who admitted to his insensitivity. This part occurred
later on
in the chapter- click on the address below.

Notice also that the event was witnessed by beings from higher realms.

" For two hours Krsna remained like an ordinary child gripped in the
coils
of Kaliya, but when He saw that all the inhabitants of Gokula--
including His
mother and father, the gopis, the boys and the cows--were just on the
point
of death and that they had no shelter for salvation from imminent
death,
Krsna immediately freed Himself. He began to expand His body, and
when the
serpent tried to hold Him, he felt a great strain. On account of the
strain,
his coils slackened, and he had no other alternative but to let loose
the
Personality of Godhead, Krsna, from his grasp. Kaliya then became very
angry, and his great hoods expanded. He exhaled poisonous fumes from
his
nostrils, his eyes blazed like fire, and flames issued from his
mouth. The
great serpent remained still for some time, looking at Krsna. Licking
his
lips with bifurcated tongues, the serpent looked at Krsna with double
hoods,
and his eyesight was full of poison. Krsna immediately pounced upon
him,
just as Garuda swoops upon a snake. Thus attacked, Kaliya looked for
an
opportunity to bite Him, but Krsna moved around him. As Krsna and
Kaliya
moved in a circle, the serpent gradually became fatigued, and his
strength
seemed to diminish considerably. Krsna immediately pressed down the
serpent's hoods and jumped up on them. The Lord's lotus feet became
tinged
with red from the rays of the jewels on the snake's hoods. Then He
who is
the original artist of all fine arts, such as dancing, began to dance
upon
the hoods of the serpent, although they were moving to and fro. Upon
seeing
this, denizens from the upper planets began to shower flowers, beat
drums,
play different types of flutes and sing various prayers and songs. In
this
way, all the denizens of heaven, such as the Gandharvas, Siddhas and
demigods, became very pleased."

Subduing Kaliya -- Krsna, The Supreme Personality of Godhead Subduing Kaliya -- Krsna, The Supreme Personality of Godhead

The Man from Etidorhpa mentioned reptile entities beneath the Earth's
surface various times:

" Many details concerning this journey have not been explained to you;
indeed, I have acquainted you with but little that I experienced. Near
surface earth we passed through caverns filled with creeping reptiles;
through others we were surrounded by flying creatures, neither beast
nor
bird; we passed through passages of ooze and abyrinths of apparently
interminable intra-earth structures; to have disported on such
features of
my journey would have been impracticable. From time to time I
experienced
strains of melody, such as never before had I conceived, seemingly
choruses
of angels were singing in and to my very soul. From empty space about
me,
from out the crevices beyond and behind me, from the depths of my
spirit
within me, came these strains in notes clear and distinct, but yet
indescribable. Did I fancy, or was it real? I will not pretend to say.
Flowers and structures beautiful, insects gorgeous and inexplicable
were
spread before me. Figures and forms I can not attempt to indicate in
word
descriptions, ever and anon surrounded, accompanied, and passed me
by. The
canvas conceptions of earth-bred artists bring to mind no forms so
strange
and weird and yet so beautiful as were these compound beings. Restful
beyond
description was it to drink in the indescribable strains of poetry of
motion
that I appreciated in the movements of fair creatures I have not
mentioned,
and it was no less soothing to experience the soul relief wrought by
the
sounds about me, for musicians know no notes so sweet and entrancing.

There were also, in side caverns to which I was led, combinations of
sounds
and scenes in which floating strains and
fleeting figures were interwoven and interlaced so closely that the
senses
of both sight and hearing became blended into a single sense, new,
weird,
strange, and inexpressible. As flavor is the combination of odor and
taste,
and is neither taste nor odor, so these sounds and scenes combined
were
neither scenes' nor sounds, but a complex sensation, new, delicious.
Sometimes I begged to be permitted to stop and live forever 'mid those
heavenly charms, but with as firm a hand as when helping me through
the
chambers of mire, ooze, and creeping reptiles, my guide drew me
onward."

Dean

Dean , the serpent Kaliya in Mahabharata was supposed to be a giant multi-headed , multi-hooded serpent . It also had gems encrusted on it's head - an unusual belief in Hindu mythology about serpents . Till today there is a traditional belief that serpents guard massive treasures hidden underground .

We possibly don't see any such "strange" serpents on the outer surface any more , but who knows what lurks in the cavern worlds below ??
Regards

Sidhartha,
Currently, we don't see any of the creatures that are claimed to live within the cavern worlds, or rarely, because bigfoot creatures are apparently seen now and then, especially in the Himalayas and Tibet.

And flying snakes. Small flying snakes have been seen in Thailand, and there was a film going around a few years ago of two snakes with sleek wings fighting with each other. The wings were very sleek and didn't seem to be enough to support flight. But in Africa there are accounts of flying snakes, big ones, that fly out of caves. Have you seen this page:

http://www.holloworbs.com/Flying%20Snakes.htm http://www.holloworbs.com/Flying%20Snakes.htm

I prefer to stay here and not see them.

Dean

Dean , could this be the pteradactyl species of flying dinosaur that somehow survived the dinosaur extinction by hiding away in the cavern worlds ?? The size of the creature seen in the Namibian desert , also it's wingspan , perfectly match the dimensions of the pteradactyl.

Regards

Sidhartha,

Yes, I would agree with yur conclusion.

What puzzles me is why they don't spend more time on the surface. They supposedlu don't have the intelligence or information at their disposal to figure out that "the rays of The Sun will limit my lifespan, so I will remain underground". Perhaps there are others that don't usually allow them to venture out.

Dean

The idea of the advanced or more developed reptiles being cursed and under
the foot of humans has always been quite prevalent, see Genesis 3:14
https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/3-14.htm-15
https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/3-15.htm:

14 And the Lord (JEHOVAH) God (ELOHIM) said unto the serpent (ha (the)

  • nahas (looks similar to naga?)), Because thou hast done this, thou art
    cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly
    shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
    15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed
    and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

There has clearly been some level of intervention that's taken place to
preclude the reptilian establishment on the outer crust. Sure, it might be
common sense that they wouldn't want to be here due to unfavorable reasons,
but it clearly appears that there's more than that going on. There's little
doubt they'd be out here en masse if nothing was preventing that. It most
certainly seems that the enmity has been at epic proportions for a very
long time now. Furthermore, it's clear that Satan is stirring things up
amongst them, see Job 1:7 https://biblehub.com/text/job/1-7.htm:

7 And the LORD (JEHOVAH) said unto Satan (ha (the) + sa-tan; "root s-t-n;

'one who opposes, obstructs, or acts as an adversary
https://www.etymonline.com/word/satan'), Whence comest thou? Then Satan
answered the LORD (JEHOVAH), and said, From going to and fro in the
earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Folks , the "flying fiery serpent" seems to be a common theme in mythology . The native american civilisation had Quetzlcoatl , the Bible referred to Seraphim and the Hindu & Buddhist literature had Suparna/Naga , Chinese had the fire breathing , flying dragons etc.

So either there was actually a flying species of serpent existing in the past, or those creatures belonged to the Cavern worlds , but no longer venture outside during our times...

Regards

deandddd wrote:

Sidhartha,

Yes, I would agree with yur conclusion.
What puzzles me is why they don't spend more time on the surface. They supposedlu don't have the intelligence or information at their disposal to figure out that "the rays of The Sun will limit my lifespan, so I will remain underground". Perhaps there are others that don't usually allow them to venture out.
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I'm not sure that the surface is a very desirable place to visit even for critical missions, much less vacation time. In contrast, it seems a drastic oversimplification for anyone to believe that "the rays of the Sun will limit a lifespan," despite how quickly some do die as detoxified poison is baked back into bare skin from the solar rays. There is little denying that many among us are simply shady?