Underground bases human and ET
Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
"What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
Gary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related
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Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
From: Alena Vedrian <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
thats where the abducted
people and animals are taken by the greys and military scientists doing
experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
Communion the movie
shows at the end an foggy underground cave.
Big Foot abducts women and
disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
the lachness monster lives underground lakes.
Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
working on Earth, this is also their planet.
In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta talks about caves and underground full of greys
the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
they always lived here even before the human kind did. Earth
is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
Alena
--- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Gary Fleck <[email protected]>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
Underground bases human and ET
Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
"What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
Gary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related
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Nick,
How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ETÂ
I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
thats where the abducted
people and animals are taken by the greys and military scientists doing
experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
Communion the movie
shows at the end an foggy underground cave.Â
Big Foot abducts women and
disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
the lachness monster lives underground lakes.Â
Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
working on Earth, this is also their planet.
In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta  talks about caves and underground full of greys
the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
they always lived here even before the human kind did. Â Earth
is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
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--- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...> wrote:
From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PMUnderground bases human and ET
Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
"What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
Garyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related                     Â
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Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.
Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Nick,
How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ETÂ
I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
thats where the abducted
people and animals are taken by the greys and military scientists doing
experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
Communion the movie
shows at the end an foggy underground cave.Â
Big Foot abducts women and
disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
the lachness monster lives underground lakes.Â
Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
working on Earth, this is also their planet.
In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta  talks about caves and underground full of greys
the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
they always lived here even before the human kind did. Â Earth
is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
Â
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--- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...> wrote:
From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PMUnderground bases human and ET
Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
"What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
Garyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related                     Â
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All this is sheer nonsense!
--- On Wed, 4/25/12, Dean D <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
To: [email protected]
Received: Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 3:37 AM
Nick,
How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ETÂ
I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
thats where the abducted
people and animals are taken by the greys and military scientists doing
experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
Communion the movie
shows at the end an foggy underground cave.Â
Big Foot abducts women and
disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
the lachness monster lives underground lakes.Â
Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
working on Earth, this is also their planet.
In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta  talks about caves and underground full of greys
the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
they always lived here even before the human kind did. Â Earth
is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
Â
Â
Â
Â
Â
Â
Â
ÂAlena
--- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...> wrote:
From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PMUnderground bases human and ET
Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
"What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
Garyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related                     Â
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Nick,
Some educated people might feel that way, but we go about presenting lots of evidence. We present, for example, physical evidence from the log books of Arctic explorers, and evidence in the form of satellite pictures.
Any one piece of evidence could be this or that, but is a matter of the weoght of everything taken together.
There is a lot of aversion on the list to hearing about the Ashtar Command and things like that, so I want you all to can it it. Don't keep coming back with that kind of posting. Take what you can from the list, then go off and talk about the Telecs or whatever somewhere else, but not here.
Some people are fed up and there are too many that are unsubscribing,
so it has to stop.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
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Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.ÂFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
>
>
> From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> ÃÂ
> I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃÂ underground,
> thats where the abducted
> people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃÂ scientists doing
> experiments.ÃÂ Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃÂ underground,
> Communion the movie
> shows at the end anÃÂ foggy underground cave.ÃÂ
> Big Foot abducts women and
> disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÃÂ
> Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃÂ ÃÂ talks about caves and underground full of greys
> theÃÂ reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃÂ liveÃÂ here,
> they always lived here even before the human kind did. ÃÂ Earth
> is theirÃÂ home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> nasty dudes whoseÃÂ busines is to drive the human crazy.ÃÂ SCI-FI? maybe, but
> some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
>
> Alena
>
> --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
>
> From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
>
> Underground bases human and ET
>
> Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> Gary
>
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Hey Dean I am not trying to turn anyone off this forum. My post was in response to several posts that talked about underground bases, ETs, reptilians, lemuria experiences etc. Not sure there are proofs for these things. I was referencing the alleged distruction of at least some of the underground bases referenced in the previous posts. You will recall I mentioned at least two of these events were announced days before the actual occurances; a disturbance in the Gulf of Aden and a second in the China sea. That should have at least peaked some interest. Of additional interest is that the seismic signatures of these events was totally unlike conventional earthquakes. That alone should be of interest. Other similar events include the "quakes" last year in Virginia and Colorado. These also had seismic signatures similar to explosions or detonations not earthquakes. Is this substantial proof? Maybe not but in a forum like this where underground events are of
interest posting material for further study does not seem out of line. I would hope you agree. For your reference, I am a very practical, grounded individual. I have an engineering degree and a law degree. I spent most of my life in technical areas working with inventors in a variety of different diciplines. I have been trained to analyze carefully in my work and I do not post any and everything I see just for the sake of seeing my name on the forum posting list. In fact I post on the forum very little and when I do I have determined it is of possible interest to at least some of the members. Perhaps if I had posted the info in more general terms instead of using names there would have been no problem. However a Google or Bing search on the name Tolec leads one directly to the information I am talking about. Perhaps at least a cursory review of the material might be in order instead of dismissing the idea out of hand. There is seismic proof that the
events that have been characterized as destruction of underground bases is at least out of the norm of underground disturbances. Summarizing I believe this forum is for the disemination of information not only relating to hollow earth but to similar topics of interest. If you feel I am out of line with the guidelines of this forum then perhaps I should be the one to resign. NJA
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:45 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Nick,
Some educated people might feel that way, but we go about presenting lots of evidence. We present, for example, physical evidence from the log books of Arctic explorers, and evidence in the form of satellite pictures.
Any one piece of evidence could be this or that, but is a matter of the weoght of everything taken together.
There is a lot of aversion on the list to hearing about the Ashtar Command and things like that, so I want you all to can it it. Don't keep coming back with that kind of posting. Take what you can from the list, then go off and talk about the Telecs or whatever somewhere else, but not here.
Some people are fed up and there are too many that are unsubscribing,
so it has to stop.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
Â
Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.ÂFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
>
>
> From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> ÂÂ
> I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
> thats where the abducted
> people and animals are taken by the greys and military scientists doing
> experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
> Communion the movie
> shows at the end an foggy underground cave.ÂÂ
> Big Foot abducts women and
> disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÂÂ
> Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta  talks about caves and underground full of greys
> the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
> they always lived here even before the human kind did.  Earth
> is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
> some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
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>
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> --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
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> From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
>
> Underground bases human and ET
>
> Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> Gary
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related                     ÂÂ
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Well, if you want to know what's REALLY behind the Lemurians under Mt. Shasta, listen to my interview with a supposed "expert" on that topic and on "astral projection":
http://www.soupmedianetwork.com/unravelingthesecrets/?p=3818
The picture is pretty clear.
-M.
Nick,
Before the disturbances in the China Sea and the Gulf of Aden, there could have been seismic rumblings that were made public in some forum or other. I just don't buy that anyone is clairvoyant or in contact with any higher beings or anything like that. Where is the evidence? Just to give you an idea, I strongly believe the Olaf Jansen story of his journey into the hollow earth, but there is no evidence at all for it, so I don't argue or post from that platform. If I do, it's with a caveat. And for me to check out web sites, I usually need something a little more definite to go on.
About the detonations in Virginia and Colorado, I truly imagine that they were explosions in underground facilities. But I certainly can't accept that John Doe knows about all this, that some fellow has an inside track or anything. The reason why I can't is because there is no evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you are a mature individual, a man with a technical background and one who understands the need to present evidence, as a lawyer does, then how come I have to bring these points up to you? You should be reminding us.
To the degree that there has been no evidence, I have been dismayed by the ET and reptilian postings; but I don't blame you for it.
It would be a good idea to not post much along the lines of empowered individuals like Tolec, or "Andromeda Councils." Your comments on the Virgina and Colorado explosions were right on the mark.
Anyway, I feel that conversations such as these are helpful every now and then.
Dean
From: Nick Aquilino
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Hey Dean I am not trying to turn anyone off this forum. My post was in response to several posts that talked about underground bases, ETs, reptilians, lemuria experiences etc. Not sure there are proofs for these things. I was referencing the alleged distruction of at least some of the underground bases referenced in the previous posts. You will recall I mentioned at least two of these events were announced days before the actual occurances; a disturbance in the Gulf of Aden and a second in the China sea. That should have at least peaked some interest. Of additional interest is that the seismic signatures of these events was totally unlike conventional earthquakes. That alone should be of interest. Other similar events include the "quakes" last year in Virginia and Colorado. These also had seismic signatures similar to explosions or detonations not earthquakes. Is this substantial proof? Maybe not but in a forum like this where underground events are of
interest posting material for further study does not seem out of line. I would hope you agree. For your reference, I am a very practical, grounded individual. I have an engineering degree and a law degree. I spent most of my life in technical areas working with inventors in a variety of different diciplines. I have been trained to analyze carefully in my work and I do not post any and everything I see just for the sake of seeing my name on the forum posting list. In fact I post on the forum very little and when I do I have determined it is of possible interest to at least some of the members. Perhaps if I had posted the info in more general terms instead of using names there would have been no problem. However a Google or Bing search on the name Tolec leads one directly to the information I am talking about. Perhaps at least a cursory review of the material might be in order instead of dismissing the idea out of hand. There is seismic proof that the
events that have been characterized as destruction of underground bases is at least out of the norm of underground disturbances. Summarizing I believe this forum is for the disemination of information not only relating to hollow earth but to similar topics of interest. If you feel I am out of line with the guidelines of this forum then perhaps I should be the one to resign. NJA
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:45 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Nick,
Some educated people might feel that way, but we go about presenting lots of evidence. We present, for example, physical evidence from the log books of Arctic explorers, and evidence in the form of satellite pictures.
Any one piece of evidence could be this or that, but is a matter of the weoght of everything taken together.
There is a lot of aversion on the list to hearing about the Ashtar Command and things like that, so I want you all to can it it. Don't keep coming back with that kind of posting. Take what you can from the list, then go off and talk about the Telecs or whatever somewhere else, but not here.
Some people are fed up and there are too many that are unsubscribing,
so it has to stop.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
Â
Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.ÂFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
>
>
> From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> ÂÂ
> I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
> thats where the abducted
> people and animals are taken by the greys and military scientists doing
> experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
> Communion the movie
> shows at the end an foggy underground cave.ÂÂ
> Big Foot abducts women and
> disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÂÂ
> Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta  talks about caves and underground full of greys
> the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
> they always lived here even before the human kind did.  Earth
> is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
> some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
>
> Alena
>
> --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
>
> From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
>
> Underground bases human and ET
>
> Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> Gary
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related                     ÂÂ
>
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I agree with you Nick. In speaking of "evidence" on this forum, dealing with the Hollow Earth, the "Master" of this forum, says what is ok, and what is not, which is ok seeing as he is the creator of it...
I say if something is "inner earth" related, or Hollow Earth related, and is NOT "evidence" based (apparently that is relevant to Dean's Professional opinion)... why throw it out? Have a good day all, Maka/Semisi
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
Â
Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.ÂFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
>
>
> From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> ÃÂ
> I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃÂ underground,
> thats where the abducted
> people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃÂ scientists doing
> experiments.ÃÂ Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃÂ underground,
> Communion the movie
> shows at the end anÃÂ foggy underground cave.ÃÂ
> Big Foot abducts women and
> disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÃÂ
> Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃÂ ÃÂ talks about caves and underground full of greys
> theÃÂ reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃÂ liveÃÂ here,
> they always lived here even before the human kind did. ÃÂ Earth
> is theirÃÂ home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> nasty dudes whoseÃÂ busines is to drive the human crazy.ÃÂ SCI-FI? maybe, but
> some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
> ÃÂ
>
> Alena
>
> --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
>
> From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
>
> Underground bases human and ET
>
> Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> Gary
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ ÃÂ
>
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Maka,
You slant things your own way. It is an imposition to invade a forum with postings about Andromeda Councils and psychics and someone's astral travel and the Ashtar Command. This doesn't really require much explanation.
I am really hoping that some of you will start your own list for discussion along those lines. This is not the place for it. I have been liberal about censuring posts, but my suggestions and guidelines are not doing much good, and some of you are just going to have to go your own way.
By the way, it could be interpreted as a bit arrogant to walk into a forum with set parameters and set your own agendas.
Dean
From: Maka
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
I agree with you Nick. In speaking of "evidence" on this forum, dealing with the Hollow Earth, the "Master" of this forum, says what is ok, and what is not, which is ok seeing as he is the creator of it...
I say if something is "inner earth" related, or Hollow Earth related, and is NOT "evidence" based (apparently that is relevant to Dean's Professional opinion)... why throw it out? Have a good day all, Maka/Semisi
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
Â
Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.ÂFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
>
>
> From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> Ã,Â
> I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃ, underground,
> thats where the abducted
> people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃ, scientists doing
> experiments.Ã, Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃ, underground,
> Communion the movie
> shows at the end anÃ, foggy underground cave.Ã,Â
> Big Foot abducts women and
> disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> the lachness monster lives underground lakes.Ã,Â
> Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃ, Ã, talks about caves and underground full of greys
> theÃ, reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃ, liveÃ, here,
> they always lived here even before the human kind did. Ã, Earth
> is theirÃ, home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> nasty dudes whoseÃ, busines is to drive the human crazy.Ã, SCI-FI? maybe, but
> some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> Ã,Â
> Ã,Â
> Ã,Â
> Ã,Â
> Ã,Â
> Ã,Â
> Ã,Â
> Ã,Â
>
> Alena
>
> --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
>
> From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
>
> Underground bases human and ET
>
> Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> Gary
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã,Â
>
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Dean,
You have to repeat this request for some sort of concrete or even circumstantial evidence far too often.
Let's face it--"channeled" information, "astral travel," "remote viewed revelations"--they are all HORSE SHIT.
No one will take these topics seriously as long as that kind of flaky, pseudo-religious, superstitious thinking is associated with these topics. "Ascended Masters" are most likely either delusions, or malevolent deceptions. Some people need to get a clue.
I'd remove the offenders from the group. It's just not worth the continuous aggravation. They know that you are interesting in discussing evidence and facts, yet they persist in this kind of asinine stupidity.
Remove. Delete.
-Mike
--- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Maka,
You slant things your own way. It is an imposition to invade a forum with postings about Andromeda Councils and psychics and someone's astral travel and the Ashtar Command. This doesn't really require much explanation.
I am really hoping that some of you will start your own list for discussion along those lines. This is not the place for it. I have been liberal about censuring posts, but my suggestions and guidelines are not doing much good, and some of you are just going to have to go your own way.
By the way, it could be interpreted as a bit arrogant to walk into a forum with set parameters and set your own agendas.
Dean
From: Maka
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETI agree with you Nick. In speaking of "evidence" on this forum, dealing with the Hollow Earth, the "Master" of this forum, says what is ok, and what is not, which is ok seeing as he is the creator of it...
I say if something is "inner earth" related, or Hollow Earth related, and is NOT "evidence" based (apparently that is relevant to Dean's Professional opinion)... why throw it out? Have a good day all, Maka/Semisi
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
> Â
> Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.Â
>
> From: Dean D <silopanna@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> Â
> Nick,
>
> How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
>
> And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
>
> Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
>
> Dean
>
> --- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
> >
> > Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
> >
> >
> > From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> >
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃ, underground,
> > thats where the abducted
> > people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃ, scientists doing
> > experiments.Ã, Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃ, underground,
> > Communion the movie
> > shows at the end anÃ, foggy underground cave.Ã,Â
> > Big Foot abducts women and
> > disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> > the lachness monster lives underground lakes.Ã,Â
> > Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> > working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> > In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃ, Ã, talks about caves and underground full of greys
> > theÃ, reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃ, liveÃ, here,
> > they always lived here even before the human kind did. Ã, Earth
> > is theirÃ, home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> > nasty dudes whoseÃ, busines is to drive the human crazy.Ã, SCI-FI? maybe, but
> > some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> >
> > Alena
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
> >
> > Underground bases human and ET
> >
> > Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> > talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> > "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> > Gary
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã,Â
> >
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> >
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> >
> > http://www.holloworbs.com/Yahoo! Groups Links
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I agree with you that the picture is pretty clear, however not in the way which is agreeable to your "logical/reason based" point of view. Some of the questions he poses to you and your responses to them, (in my humble opinion), during the interview was/is actually laughable. I agree with him that our modern logic/reason based/exclusively left-brained "Science", is what is actually caustic to Life as we know it on this Planet! To say that Modern Science is all there is to reality in my opinion is paramount to saying, the right side of the brain doesn't exist, and than "intuition" of any sort is a figment of the human imagination....
Thanks for posting the recorded call... I actually REALLY enjoyed it :). Regards, Maka
--- In [email protected], "Wm." <wmmott@...> wrote:
Well, if you want to know what's REALLY behind the Lemurians under Mt. Shasta, listen to my interview with a supposed "expert" on that topic and on "astral projection":
http://www.soupmedianetwork.com/unravelingthesecrets/?p=3818
The picture is pretty clear.
-M.
Dean,
I humbly reply with: So do you. I have honored your requests to keep my posts evidence based. I was simply concurring with Nick's post. Regards, Maka
--- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Maka,
You slant things your own way. It is an imposition to invade a forum with postings about Andromeda Councils and psychics and someone's astral travel and the Ashtar Command. This doesn't really require much explanation.
I am really hoping that some of you will start your own list for discussion along those lines. This is not the place for it. I have been liberal about censuring posts, but my suggestions and guidelines are not doing much good, and some of you are just going to have to go your own way.
By the way, it could be interpreted as a bit arrogant to walk into a forum with set parameters and set your own agendas.
Dean
From: Maka
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETI agree with you Nick. In speaking of "evidence" on this forum, dealing with the Hollow Earth, the "Master" of this forum, says what is ok, and what is not, which is ok seeing as he is the creator of it...
I say if something is "inner earth" related, or Hollow Earth related, and is NOT "evidence" based (apparently that is relevant to Dean's Professional opinion)... why throw it out? Have a good day all, Maka/Semisi
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
> Â
> Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.Â
>
> From: Dean D <silopanna@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> Â
> Nick,
>
> How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
>
> And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
>
> Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
>
> Dean
>
> --- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
> >
> > Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
> >
> >
> > From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> >
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃ, underground,
> > thats where the abducted
> > people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃ, scientists doing
> > experiments.Ã, Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃ, underground,
> > Communion the movie
> > shows at the end anÃ, foggy underground cave.Ã,Â
> > Big Foot abducts women and
> > disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> > the lachness monster lives underground lakes.Ã,Â
> > Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> > working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> > In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃ, Ã, talks about caves and underground full of greys
> > theÃ, reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃ, liveÃ, here,
> > they always lived here even before the human kind did. Ã, Earth
> > is theirÃ, home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> > nasty dudes whoseÃ, busines is to drive the human crazy.Ã, SCI-FI? maybe, but
> > some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> >
> > Alena
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
> >
> > Underground bases human and ET
> >
> > Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> > talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> > "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> > Gary
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã,Â
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > http://www.holloworbs.com/Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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It is interesting how often people who are racist, sexist, authoritarian, totalitarian, supremacist, etc. in their beliefs, opinions and attitudes tend to base their so-called knowledge on "channeled" or "astral" information. This guy was a perfect example of that.
Of course, anyone with a rational mind can see it.
-M.
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@...> wrote:
I agree with you that the picture is pretty clear, however not in the way which is agreeable to your "logical/reason based" point of view. Some of the questions he poses to you and your responses to them, (in my humble opinion), during the interview was/is actually laughable. I agree with him that our modern logic/reason based/exclusively left-brained "Science", is what is actually caustic to Life as we know it on this Planet! To say that Modern Science is all there is to reality in my opinion is paramount to saying, the right side of the brain doesn't exist, and than "intuition" of any sort is a figment of the human imagination....
Thanks for posting the recorded call... I actually REALLY enjoyed it :). Regards, Maka
--- In [email protected], "Wm." <wmmott@> wrote:
>
> Well, if you want to know what's REALLY behind the Lemurians under Mt. Shasta, listen to my interview with a supposed "expert" on that topic and on "astral projection":
>
> http://www.soupmedianetwork.com/unravelingthesecrets/?p=3818
>
> The picture is pretty clear.
>
> -M.
>
Well it is interesting how the topic shifted to channeling and the Ashtar command. My original post was in response to the underground bases topic. As I had previously said there is information on the Internet that many of the underground bases were destroyed. To support that theory I referred to this guy Tolec who exactly foretold the destruction of at least two of the alleged bases by pinpointing the location of what turned out to be a gigantic underground disturbances that initially were characterized as earthquakes. Seismic data clearly shows the signatures of these disturbances were not from an an earthquake but more closely resembled an explosion. The same for the Virginia earthquake last August. Sufficient proof in my humble opinion that the topic, particularly as it relates to HE theory, deserves consideration on this forum. So Dean how about allowing this topic to be visited instead of the BS about channeling. The events were real and
documented and as of yet not sufficiently explained. Maybe there is no answer to be found but to dismiss the topic is a diservice to the members of this forum.
________________________________
From: Maka <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:56 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Dean,
I humbly reply with: So do you. I have honored your requests to keep my posts evidence based. I was simply concurring with Nick's post. Regards, Maka
--- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Maka,
You slant things your own way. It is an imposition to invade a forum with postings about Andromeda Councils and psychics and someone's astral travel and the Ashtar Command. This doesn't really require much explanation.
I am really hoping that some of you will start your own list for discussion along those lines. This is not the place for it. I have been liberal about censuring posts, but my suggestions and guidelines are not doing much good, and some of you are just going to have to go your own way.
By the way, it could be interpreted as a bit arrogant to walk into a forum with set parameters and set your own agendas.
Dean
From: Maka
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETI agree with you Nick. In speaking of "evidence" on this forum, dealing with the Hollow Earth, the "Master" of this forum, says what is ok, and what is not, which is ok seeing as he is the creator of it...
I say if something is "inner earth" related, or Hollow Earth related, and is NOT "evidence" based (apparently that is relevant to Dean's Professional opinion)... why throw it out? Have a good day all, Maka/Semisi
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
> Â
> Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.Â
>
> From: Dean D <silopanna@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> Â
> Nick,
>
> How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
>
> And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
>
> Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
>
> Dean
>
> --- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
> >
> > Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
> >
> >
> > From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> >
> >
> > Ã,Â
> > I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃ, underground,
> > thats where the abducted
> > people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃ, scientists doing
> > experiments.Ã, Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃ, underground,
> > Communion the movie
> > shows at the end anÃ, foggy underground cave.Ã,Â
> > Big Foot abducts women and
> > disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> > the lachness monster lives underground lakes.Ã,Â
> > Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> > working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> > In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃ, Ã, talks about caves and underground full of greys
> > theÃ, reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃ, liveÃ, here,
> > they always lived here even before the human kind did. Ã, Earth
> > is theirÃ, home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> > nasty dudes whoseÃ, busines is to drive the human crazy.Ã, SCI-FI? maybe, but
> > some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> > Ã,Â
> >
> > Alena
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
> >
> > Underground bases human and ET
> >
> > Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> > talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> > "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> > Gary
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã,Â
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I never said these things were true. I was looking for some verification myself and had hoped to get this through the forum.
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From: silopanna <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Nick,
Before the disturbances in the China Sea and the Gulf of Aden, there could have been seismic rumblings that were made public in some forum or other. I just don't buy that anyone is clairvoyant or in contact with any higher beings or anything like that. Where is the evidence? Just to give you an idea, I strongly believe the Olaf Jansen story of his journey into the hollow earth, but there is no evidence at all for it, so I don't argue or post from that platform. If I do, it's with a caveat. And for me to check out web sites, I usually need something a little more definite to go on.
About the detonations in Virginia and Colorado, I truly imagine that they were explosions in underground facilities. But I certainly can't accept that John Doe knows about all this, that some fellow has an inside track or anything. The reason why I can't is because there is no evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you are a mature individual, a man with a technical background and one who understands the need to present evidence, as a lawyer does, then how come I have to bring these points up to you? You should be reminding us.
To the degree that there has been no evidence, I have been dismayed by the ET and reptilian postings; but I don't blame you for it.
It would be a good idea to not post much along the lines of empowered individuals like Tolec, or "Andromeda Councils." Your comments on the Virgina and Colorado explosions were right on the mark.
Anyway, I feel that conversations such as these are helpful every now and then.
Dean
From: Nick Aquilino
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Hey Dean I am not trying to turn anyone off this forum. My post was in response to several posts that talked about underground bases, ETs, reptilians, lemuria experiences etc. Not sure there are proofs for these things. I was referencing the alleged distruction of at least some of the underground bases referenced in the previous posts. You will recall I mentioned at least two of these events were announced days before the actual occurances; a disturbance in the Gulf of Aden and a second in the China sea. That should have at least peaked some interest. Of additional interest is that the seismic signatures of these events was totally unlike conventional earthquakes. That alone should be of interest. Other similar events include the "quakes" last year in Virginia and Colorado. These also had seismic signatures similar to explosions or detonations not earthquakes. Is this substantial proof? Maybe not but in a forum like this where underground events are of
interest posting material for further study does not seem out of line. I would hope you agree. For your reference, I am a very practical, grounded individual. I have an engineering degree and a law degree. I spent most of my life in technical areas working with inventors in a variety of different diciplines. I have been trained to analyze carefully in my work and I do not post any and everything I see just for the sake of seeing my name on the forum posting list. In fact I post on the forum very little and when I do I have determined it is of possible interest to at least some of the members. Perhaps if I had posted the info in more general terms instead of using names there would have been no problem. However a Google or Bing search on the name Tolec leads one directly to the information I am talking about. Perhaps at least a cursory review of the material might be in order instead of dismissing the idea out of hand. There is seismic proof that the
events that have been characterized as destruction of underground bases is at least out of the norm of underground disturbances. Summarizing I believe this forum is for the disemination of information not only relating to hollow earth but to similar topics of interest. If you feel I am out of line with the guidelines of this forum then perhaps I should be the one to resign. NJA
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:45 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
Nick,
Some educated people might feel that way, but we go about presenting lots of evidence. We present, for example, physical evidence from the log books of Arctic explorers, and evidence in the form of satellite pictures.
Any one piece of evidence could be this or that, but is a matter of the weoght of everything taken together.
There is a lot of aversion on the list to hearing about the Ashtar Command and things like that, so I want you all to can it it. Don't keep coming back with that kind of posting. Take what you can from the list, then go off and talk about the Telecs or whatever somewhere else, but not here.
Some people are fed up and there are too many that are unsubscribing,
so it has to stop.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
Â
Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.ÂFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
>
>
> From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> ÂÂ
> I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
> thats where the abducted
> people and animals are taken by the greys and military scientists doing
> experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
> Communion the movie
> shows at the end an foggy underground cave.ÂÂ
> Big Foot abducts women and
> disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÂÂ
> Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta  talks about caves and underground full of greys
> the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
> they always lived here even before the human kind did.  Earth
> is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
> some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
> ÂÂ
>
> Alena
>
> --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
>
> From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
>
> Underground bases human and ET
>
> Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> Gary
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related                     ÂÂ
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And Nick has the last word on the topic. I really don't want any nit-picking or "you said - I said" to take center stage.
We all have some things to think about, let's all try posting good material again and going forward. Once bit, twice shy? No!
Who has a theme?
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
I never said these things were true. I was looking for some verification myself and had hoped to get this through the forum.
________________________________
From: silopanna <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
ÂNick,
Before the disturbances in the China Sea and the Gulf of Aden, there could have been seismic rumblings that were made public in some forum or other. I just don't buy that anyone is clairvoyant or in contact with any higher beings or anything like that. Where is the evidence? Just to give you an idea, I strongly believe the Olaf Jansen story of his journey into the hollow earth, but there is no evidence at all for it, so I don't argue or post from that platform. If I do, it's with a caveat. And for me to check out web sites, I usually need something a little more definite to go on.
About the detonations in Virginia and Colorado, I truly imagine that they were explosions in underground facilities. But I certainly can't accept that John Doe knows about all this, that some fellow has an inside track or anything. The reason why I can't is because there is no evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you are a mature individual, a man with a technical background and one who understands the need to present evidence, as a lawyer does, then how come I have to bring these points up to you? You should be reminding us.
To the degree that there has been no evidence, I have been dismayed by the ET and reptilian postings; but I don't blame you for it.
It would be a good idea to not post much along the lines of empowered individuals like Tolec, or "Andromeda Councils." Your comments on the Virgina and Colorado explosions were right on the mark.
Anyway, I feel that conversations such as these are helpful every now and then.
Dean
From: Nick Aquilino
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETHey Dean I am not trying to turn anyone off this forum. My post was in response to several posts that talked about underground bases, ETs, reptilians, lemuria experiences etc. Not sure there are proofs for these things. I was referencing the alleged distruction of at least some of the underground bases referenced in the previous posts. You will recall I mentioned at least two of these events were announced days before the actual occurances; a disturbance in the Gulf of Aden and a second in the China sea. That should have at least peaked some interest. Of additional interest is that the seismic signatures of these events was totally unlike conventional earthquakes. That alone should be of interest. Other similar events include the "quakes" last year in Virginia and Colorado. These also had seismic signatures similar to explosions or detonations not earthquakes. Is this substantial proof? Maybe not but in a forum like this where underground events are of
interest posting material for further study does not seem out of line. I would hope you agree. For your reference, I am a very practical, grounded individual. I have an engineering degree and a law degree. I spent most of my life in technical areas working with inventors in a variety of different diciplines. I have been trained to analyze carefully in my work and I do not post any and everything I see just for the sake of seeing my name on the forum posting list. In fact I post on the forum very little and when I do I have determined it is of possible interest to at least some of the members. Perhaps if I had posted the info in more general terms instead of using names there would have been no problem. However a Google or Bing search on the name Tolec leads one directly to the information I am talking about. Perhaps at least a cursory review of the material might be in order instead of dismissing the idea out of hand. There is seismic proof that the
events that have been characterized as destruction of underground bases is at least out of the norm of underground disturbances. Summarizing I believe this forum is for the disemination of information not only relating to hollow earth but to similar topics of interest. If you feel I am out of line with the guidelines of this forum then perhaps I should be the one to resign. NJAFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:45 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETNick,
Some educated people might feel that way, but we go about presenting lots of evidence. We present, for example, physical evidence from the log books of Arctic explorers, and evidence in the form of satellite pictures.
Any one piece of evidence could be this or that, but is a matter of the weoght of everything taken together.
There is a lot of aversion on the list to hearing about the Ashtar Command and things like that, so I want you all to can it it. Don't keep coming back with that kind of posting. Take what you can from the list, then go off and talk about the Telecs or whatever somewhere else, but not here.
Some people are fed up and there are too many that are unsubscribing,
so it has to stop.Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
>
> Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually,Ã that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Ã
> Ã
> Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no differentà than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.Ã
>
> From: Dean D <silopanna@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
>
>
> Ã
> Nick,
>
> How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
>
> And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
>
> Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
>
> Dean
>
> --- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
> >
> > Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
> >
> >
> > From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> >
> >
> > ÃâÃ
> > I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃâà underground,
> > thats where the abducted
> > people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃâà scientists doing
> > experiments.Ãâà Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃâà underground,
> > Communion the movie
> > shows at the end anÃâà foggy underground cave.ÃâÃ
> > Big Foot abducts women and
> > disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> > the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÃâÃ
> > Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> > working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> > In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃâà Ãâà talks about caves and underground full of greys
> > theÃâà reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃâà liveÃâà here,
> > they always lived here even before the human kind did. Ãâà Earth
> > is theirÃâà home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> > nasty dudes whoseÃâà busines is to drive the human crazy.Ãâà SCI-FI? maybe, but
> > some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
> > ÃâÃ
> > ÃâÃ
> > ÃâÃ
> > ÃâÃ
> > ÃâÃ
> > ÃâÃ
> > ÃâÃ
> > ÃâÃ
> >
> > Alena
> >
> > --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
> >
> > Underground bases human and ET
> >
> > Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> > talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> > "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> > Gary
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnlbh6-o3uo&feature=related Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà Ãâà ÃâÃ
> >
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> >
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OK actually this was a good exercise. I have come to see your point and it appears you have seen mine. Moving forward I will adhere to posting things that can be verified. Nick
________________________________
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:44 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
And Nick has the last word on the topic. I really don't want any nit-picking or "you said - I said" to take center stage.
We all have some things to think about, let's all try posting good material again and going forward. Once bit, twice shy? No!
Who has a theme?
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
I never said these things were true. I was looking for some verification myself and had hoped to get this through the forum.
________________________________
From: silopanna <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,
Before the disturbances in the China Sea and the Gulf of Aden, there could have been seismic rumblings that were made public in some forum or other. I just don't buy that anyone is clairvoyant or in contact with any higher beings or anything like that. Where is the evidence? Just to give you an idea, I strongly believe the Olaf Jansen story of his journey into the hollow earth, but there is no evidence at all for it, so I don't argue or post from that platform. If I do, it's with a caveat. And for me to check out web sites, I usually need something a little more definite to go on.
About the detonations in Virginia and Colorado, I truly imagine that they were explosions in underground facilities. But I certainly can't accept that John Doe knows about all this, that some fellow has an inside track or anything. The reason why I can't is because there is no evidence.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If you are a mature individual, a man with a technical background and one who understands the need to present evidence, as a lawyer does, then how come I have to bring these points up to you? You should be reminding us.
To the degree that there has been no evidence, I have been dismayed by the ET and reptilian postings; but I don't blame you for it.
It would be a good idea to not post much along the lines of empowered individuals like Tolec, or "Andromeda Councils." Your comments on the Virgina and Colorado explosions were right on the mark.
Anyway, I feel that conversations such as these are helpful every now and then.
Dean
From: Nick Aquilino
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 12:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETHey Dean I am not trying to turn anyone off this forum. My post was in response to several posts that talked about underground bases, ETs, reptilians, lemuria experiences etc. Not sure there are proofs for these things. I was referencing the alleged distruction of at least some of the underground bases referenced in the previous posts. You will recall I mentioned at least two of these events were announced days before the actual occurances; a disturbance in the Gulf of Aden and a second in the China sea. That should have at least peaked some interest. Of additional interest is that the seismic signatures of these events was totally unlike conventional earthquakes. That alone should be of interest. Other similar events include the "quakes" last year in Virginia and Colorado. These also had seismic signatures similar to explosions or detonations not earthquakes. Is this substantial proof? Maybe not but in a forum like this where underground events are of
interest posting material for further study does not seem out of line. I would hope you agree. For your reference, I am a very practical, grounded individual. I have an engineering degree and a law degree. I spent most of my life in technical areas working with inventors in a variety of different diciplines. I have been trained to analyze carefully in my work and I do not post any and everything I see just for the sake of seeing my name on the forum posting list. In fact I post on the forum very little and when I do I have determined it is of possible interest to at least some of the members. Perhaps if I had posted the info in more general terms instead of using names there would have been no problem. However a Google or Bing search on the name Tolec leads one directly to the information I am talking about. Perhaps at least a cursory review of the material might be in order instead of dismissing the idea out of hand. There is seismic proof that the
events that have been characterized as destruction of underground bases is at least out of the norm of underground disturbances. Summarizing I believe this forum is for the disemination of information not only relating to hollow earth but to similar topics of interest. If you feel I am out of line with the guidelines of this forum then perhaps I should be the one to resign. NJAFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 6:45 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETNick,
Some educated people might feel that way, but we go about presenting lots of evidence. We present, for example, physical evidence from the log books of Arctic explorers, and evidence in the form of satellite pictures.
Any one piece of evidence could be this or that, but is a matter of the weoght of everything taken together.
There is a lot of aversion on the list to hearing about the Ashtar Command and things like that, so I want you all to can it it. Don't keep coming back with that kind of posting. Take what you can from the list, then go off and talk about the Telecs or whatever somewhere else, but not here.
Some people are fed up and there are too many that are unsubscribing,
so it has to stop.Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
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> Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
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> Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.Â
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> From: Dean D <silopanna@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ET
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> Nick,
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> How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
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> And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
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> Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
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> Dean
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> --- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
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> > Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
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> > From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
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> > I know there got to be ets and humans working on the underground,
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> > experiments. Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into an underground,
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> > Big Foot abducts women and
> > disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> > the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÂÂ
> > Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> > working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> > In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo Mukta  talks about caves and underground full of greys
> > the reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creatures live here,
> > they always lived here even before the human kind did.  Earth
> > is their home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> > nasty dudes whose busines is to drive the human crazy. SCI-FI? maybe, but
> > some thing has to be true, even just a little bit.
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> > --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
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> > From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
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> > Underground bases human and ET
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> > Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> > talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> > "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> > Gary
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Other planets/galaxies would see us as ETs!
I have no doubt that there is life teeming out there in space, and any ET that can travel this far to look at our Earth, will also perhaps be smart enough to just 'watch' for a while and not interfere, or at least come down in some subtle way.
The movie ET is typical of what would really happen if aliens showed their faces.
cv
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@...> wrote:
Well there are a lot of well educated people who believe the whole premise of the forum is without a shred of evidence. This guy Tolec did announce before the fact, days before actually, that certain underground bases would be destroyed and seismic detectors showed large disturbances in the exact locations he pointed out that could not be identified as earthquakes.Coincidence? I think not. Maybe others on the forum would agree.Â
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Additionally there is evidence that there is exterterrestial life in our universe. So why would anyone discount the possibility of communication from these beings. Seems like it would be no different than saying there are beings living in the hollow earth. Where is the credible evidence for that? Not saying that I do not believe this is true but the average guy on the street would think that concept to be rediculous. I really have trouble determining what far out topics are reasonable on this forum, I guess it is yours since you seem to have the role of inforcer, and what topics are not reasonable. Clearly not everything posted deals directly with the concept of hollow Earth.ÂFrom: Dean D <silopanna@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 11:37 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underground bases human and ETÂ
Nick,How on Earth can you talk about Tolec and Andromeda Councils? I don't know about a shread of evidence in favor of their existence.
And just think about how some sensible new member is going to take to such talk? Or if that kind of talk won't tire out some people who have already been around for a while?
Please, I have asked you all to be considerate of the well-being of the list as a whole when you post.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Nick Aquilino <nickaquilino@> wrote:
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> Alena are you aware of Tolec and the Andromeda Council? According to them most, if not all the major underground ET bases have been destroyed. Lots of interesting info if you check them out. NJA
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> From: Alena Vedrian <ufosarizona@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
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> I know there got to be ets and humans working on theÃÂ underground,
> thats where the abducted
> people and animals are taken by the greys and militaryÃÂ scientists doing
> experiments.ÃÂ Barney and Betty Hills talked ufos going into anÃÂ underground,
> Communion the movie
> shows at the end anÃÂ foggy underground cave.ÃÂ
> Big Foot abducts women and
> disappeares into a hidden cave and undergrounds,
> the lachness monster lives underground lakes.ÃÂ
> Ets greys and the Tall Whites dont like the sun, they live underground while
> working on Earth, this is also their planet.
> In the Reptilian Agenda, Credo MuktaÃÂ ÃÂ talks about caves and underground full of greys
> theÃÂ reptilian kind, in Africa. He says these creaturesÃÂ liveÃÂ here,
> they always lived here even before the human kind did. ÃÂ Earth
> is theirÃÂ home. I Remember Lemuria talks about deros of the underground,
> nasty dudes whoseÃÂ busines is to drive the human crazy.ÃÂ SCI-FI? maybe, but
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> --- On Tue, 4/24/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@> wrote:
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> From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Underground bases human and ET
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:30 PM
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> Underground bases human and ET
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> Folks, at about minute 33, this video begins
> talking about the underground base(s) in China's desert, (and the hollow Earth) check it out.
> "What if there is a real human - alien mixed base in central Tibet?"
> Gary
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