UFO Reality (terrestrial vs extraterrestrial)

coz some spam hiccup here on MR I've shared this thread on GDS like possible agitprop kick by some deep'state'infiltration [1] tho maybe I've got wrong impression due to the postponed second hand deblocking, what however paranoid sounds its kind of by similar kicks provoked sense I have, around whatever attempt of mine to challenge anyhow the regular alien'hype'narrative on various eforums, especially when the same as psyop is connected to the current globalist euroatlantic elites!

anyway, here is the original text from there in own separate thread, so additionally would be explored or debated ... I've throw also some similar useful context in other mormon HE topic [2] so would be even more neatly pointed on strangely existing agitprop for peddling of traditional loosen unfocused Christians to embrace whatever else just not Christianity!

maybe I sound bit apologetic, but when one will listen to the elaborations of JayD [1] about the same issue, surely mine logicism will sound even kind of acceptable even for ufo buffs ...

also interesting to be pointed here too is the notion that the regular hype about the hyped types of aliens could be seen as anunnaki interpretation [2][2] eventually the point would be dont ask nor for aliens nor in form of Angels or demons'anathema'to'them coz You might get overwhelmed and carried away by vanity or misfortune towards slavery and finally oblivion, simply its cosmic war so be careful how You approach [3] to be even more problematic many experiment with the topic exploring in various directions [3] even gnostic one like is case with book'of'enoch [4]] instead to focus on the experience of the Desert Fathers in Orthodox Christianity [5][5] tho be careful not mistaking kabbalistic with Christian knowhow [6][6][6] or to end up among pagan deserters [7] playing with fire can get You burn ...

some unofficial cable from intelligence community, that eg. was feeding with info the late pastor Tom Horn were the socalled collins elite [1-7]

~ | THE COMING GREAT DECEPTION—PART 16: Portals, Occult Magic, and the Collins Elite [2][3]

first I've throw the video then listened to it :slight_smile: assuming when is talk about the collins elite the same is clear cut around the topic, yet as could be seen the kick is kind of attempt for their debunking as v(lj)aticans infiltration in the oval office, hm hm hm, at least neatly its explained for what kind of intelligence group is!

  • now, so would be more clear that maltese knights per'se are not Christian Monastic Order nor even devoted Christians, but on contrary an freemasonic infiltration in the Catholic Church, for what I'll propose few links as argument, tho it asks bit patience and out'of'the'box'reasoning so would grasp such proposition [1][1] that also can be seen as templars revenge too [2]

so seen like this the previous post video logicism about vatican influencing usA to see ufo/alien hype as demonic one simply falls in water, but on contrary freemasonry unlike earlier maybe become aware with what kind of force have work, simply only the most versed adepts are aware luciferians, while the rest are just bulk of followers pawns, probably some of them as awaken and in position did made attempt to alert the ruling elites then, yet day after were silenced and everything continued by the usual agenda, guess some clearance indeed is not reachable for everyone on west, mj12 alike hype comes to mind, where bilderberg&co has own tentacles [2][2][2] tho some general observation is that bots are bots while the hierarchy goes in various other ways back and forth [3][3][3] where is chased an neopagan utopian agenda [4-6][5] altho this with the bloodlines to me looks more like metrosexual masquerade among modern elites just like heraldry earlier [6][6-9][6] tho cant claim certainty and how those align for granted [7][7-11][7-6] in essence anyone who bows to anathemago will eventually be rewarded and crowned in its gang, and when Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ was tempted to join "him" [8] what about people that embraced apostasy paganism or neopaganism, titles, kingdoms, vaults, plutocratic pawns or seats, whatever just to reject Jesus Christ and Salvation, after what "dei" are rewarded [9-5][9][9-2][9-2][9-6] so by mine or surely Your own experience we are tempted all by aliens in our daily life or demons'anathema'to'them, surely as Christians we are more than aware how to repel aliens to molest us, by calling upon The Holy Name Of Jesus Christ, thus we dont have doubt, at least not those that are versed in the spiritual battles, the rest yeah can be fooled to lust for alien contact, and we are witnessing for one century such psyop for soul harvesting isnt, already pointed in the 3rd footnote of the 2nd post above, i.e. many are not aware that are living mids cosmic war where the prize are our Souls coz already we are in fall, and just by final wrong use of our Gift Of The Free Will eventually if not repent till live in this world to be harvested for eternal oblivion instead Eternal Life in Joyful Bliss ... whats the odds, be clever focus on Salvation ... at least try becoming for a while Orthodox Christian and see whether that is beneficial thing in Your life ... if wonder how, do try ask JayD for catechumen advice [10]

interestingly one month later JasonS push the idea that collins group is not exposing demonic infiltration but part of the system that summons demonic forces!, lets say some of them panicked later and contacted TomH etc. alike people that will alert citizens whats happening!?, anyway, this next logic aligns with the one of RusselD alarm about black-awakening [1-10] eventually stretching back till JackP witchcraft in JPL [2] also bringing hint that it was opened room for collaboration, i.e. the documentary meme around one episode of american horror story [3] that can be expanded in various directions that its logical that coz the lust for weapons will push many to surrender their free will and drop as demonic slaves [4] or adepts [5] which hype made from freemasonry sex cult too [6]

interestingly, if it make sense ~8m he first mentions about witnessing how demons'anathema'to'them screamed there is no Jesus Christ but just cosmic god "There is no God. The cosmic deity is all." and then ~26m claim he also speaks to the universe, eh, agnostic waiting to become maybe deistic freemason, going in universalistic circles eventually will lead You in "deir" hands, coz defacto "dei" also claim are bowing at the cosmic architect, apostatic gnostics, which embraced as gnostic claims demiurge, as own god, while in essence as gnostics so as deists are fooled to chase whatever "dei" would like, just run away from Jesus Christ, eh, who is d'great'deciever, isnt obvious many before their eyes will be fooled to end up in apostasy!?, edit: such slip eg. is thrown in the video ~31m where is projected how all that numbered "basically" is divination, what would be claim as if Christianity dont have rituals or visions or dont offer Prayers as sacrifice, etc. etc. simply its demonic when such practices are either pagan in nature [7][7] or are not specific Christian practice eg. the spiritual realm for those that are with open spiritual eyes in Christianity like Elders is not forbidden existence, on contrary as Christians in continuity we have help from Lords Angels, so if worthy they will revel to those that serves Our Almighty Lord Jesus Christ, isnt, the problem is that even then we need to question the spirits whether they are Angels, thus the visions per'se for figures like ascetic prophet are not problem if happen but if on first hand is taken for granted like modern dream dictionaries or mediums (psychic doo) work, simply there needs caution, and eventually only versed spiritual warrior can afford himself to experiment with such circumstances and even then there are risks as Christian Saints are warning us, most usually that is case with visions and dreams [8] so be careful how is sold what to You as christian divination by obviously ufo buff but who again and again has urge to disprove the demonic nature of the alien hype!, again, Angels are also aliens, but its not allowed to them to reveal to us, except if we are in grave danger!!!, so expect if there is whatever disclosure ahead first demons'anathema'to'them will pop up, and just then after Angels will, tho even that probably will be spinned like here Angels came to warn us that demons are comming!, simply, Angels will warn us through the Orthodox Christian Church if we needed to make official contact with Angels, but that is not case in The Revelation, but we are warned first anathemago will come and fool many, and then after "he" will be slayed!

so by default saying aliens are good or bad, in small hand is wrong approach!, having interest in such topics what about devoted lifestyle, like that in given circumstances for sure is exposing You to various risks!, in the end, what use You will have from such contact, maybe superhuman abilities on individual or collective level, what from Christian perspective means chasing heaven'on'earth and that by all means means removing Suffering, but if the same is removed then who how will reach focus for Salvation and clean hearth that would be compatible for higher realms, as we are warned there is nothing unclean that will enter The Heavenly Kingdom ...

now, what is this trend for reinstalling the alien hype as good thing, i.e. debunking eventual exposing of the same as demonic bait for not informed or less versed people for the spiritual realm, logically either 1. lucrative reasons, guess huge merchandise kick is the alien narrative for many, and 2. theological reasons, simply new'age'spiritualism is by default tied to aliens or cosmic consciousness, thus awakening people for the risks around the alien hype means poking the new'age'realm by default, altho if we see how the same very regularly is tied to various spirits and spiritual lore as compatible, gnomes ferries dragons chimeras etc, are not something to be carful about but such exploration is encouraged, at best like symbolic diving in the same enlightening principles interpreted by the people from the past in own folk language, yeah who would say eg. that labubu is modern reinvented hare demonic vibe [1][1] sold nowadays to Kids like sleeping pillow or comfy sleepers, yeah sleeper cells of demonic agitprop which aim is from smallest legs to acclimatize people to embrace the evil side as cute funny joyful so the ride towards total spiritual slavery would be secured for longer if not ever!

in similar logic some constant covert attack goes against Christianity in various ways since enlightenment era onwards, tho more like the Church hide the true story, while since the end of 19th century the narrative went more proactive around imposing on massive and massive scale how time was passing by, in refurbished ancient truths, an neopagan revival of all the pagan lore, usually stimulated through investing in archeology research coz chasing greater esoteric truths, that along waves of new'age'hype like theosophy or spiritism and alike reached crescendo after ww2, when eg; around the end of the past century the alien nexus hype became something like swallow it You cant refuse it, yeah in various ways eg. JordanM slips [2][2][2] obviously splash in various ways of negation of Christianity what as Christians we can feel except learn why is that, some with open spiritual eyes even witness for what kind of demons'anathema'to'them is question!

the astral hints in the footnotes of this quote (from the first post quote above), are also interesting in context whatever modern interpretations whats happening, eg. the idea about master jesus in vatican [1][1-3] what indeed would be projections about "someones" masters, particularly theosophs [2-11][2][2] logically its spin for demons'anathema'to'them!, at least to Christians this would be obvious [3][3][3] obvious regards apotheosis isnt [4] an apo'master'hype that has kind similar projection by raelians too [5][5-3] and what would be maybe first direct alignment between ufo and anathemago (descending'master'maitreya) what points indeed to covert tradition of demonic spins, which exist even like modern 5.0 neopagan new'age'hype as continuation to the earlier one [6-6] yet as raelians with bit different spin, i.e. accent was given on the cloning hype [5] what looks like new phase in which "dei" are chasing vehicle, in which "dei" will invite d'beast'image to enter, as we are warned that would be case with "deir" false prophet in the end times [6] so by cloning should be secured potent body that will withstand such pressure, probably "dei" think in question is genetics, for what surely are updated by demons'anathema'to'them!, long story short, "deir" spins are many fold with some hope "dei" are fighting for the right/good/true side, but in effected as luciferians are peddled by magnitude through wrong neopagan syncretistic vibes [7] which in its new'age'hype its trying to gaslight Christians in whatever way, tho futile coz Grace brings awareness [8-8] even when for long was pushed eg. western hindu slips&spins [9-7][9-12][9-3] which knowing that theosophy is hindu sarasvati and kemetic isis merging in one universal stew [9][9][9] defacto points how freemasonry evolved or better said aligned to the all pagan teachings, altho needed maybe to bring new'age'skim that was more suitable for all suspicious coz "deir" closed secretive system!?, if HelenaB was freemason, then surely that was case, i.e. the rosicrucians decided new flip is needed which imediatelly was followed eg. by nazis [10][10-6] where every next uber'reise'führer of "deirs" guess is "deir" new'age'bodhisattva [11][11][11-2] tho here "dei" mix concepts with avatars [12][12] which mindboggling spinning ends up in total beavis&buthead debacle [13] waiting just on venus 2028 power pump [14][14-2] btw just reminder watch not to sleep easily on the last footnotes propositions of baba'vangya'lizardian (that would be tho literal translation of her surname, maybe more convinient would be reptilian) coz probably was influence by her niece which was agni'yoga'babaroga [15-2][15][15] so new'age'vibe that splashed her from side [15][15] [15] but enough potent influence that could have skewed her visions and brought demonic hijack, tho more probable is that she was influencing her niece and that led Krasimira to astray too ... actually many how take for granted "her" predictions altho with visions people have is always 50/50, coz she saw the prevailing causality that can be changed just like in case of ninivean repentance!, still her alien projecting is almost like that of every medium, the difference is that she was naively illiterate about [15][15][15] yeah to what looks this when there is witnessing that "someone" talked through "her" [15] so before put trust anyhow in her predictions do inform Yourself how evil is spiritism [16]