Hi All--
Once more I have just finished the digest of the usual banter and I have a few things to say.
First Scott, there are things in the universe for which we shall never have proof, the reason I say this is because I believe the human mind is so brainwashed in dogma that it will never climb out of the sludge.
Once someone posted something about the moon, and I answer with the simple line: "Yes, it is a beautiful site indeed. A crystal city."
Your response was how did I know--so I told you I astral traveled there. You did not accept this, which is fine, but, you went even further and stated that it was unchristian to do such things. Your letter was quite long about both your disbelief of it being true, and your concerns that it goes against scripture. I wrote you back politely and said we are all entitled to our beliefs, and wished you well.
Now, I do believe we are entitled to our own individual beliefs and ways of worship, but, when one is on a list where an idea is being tossed around in debate, I think ancient histories and religious works written from years past must be scrutinized, or set aside completely for us to have any sort of intelligent debate. To investigate the idea of a HE we must keep our minds open to all possibilities. I believe that those who do, will compete their journey and discover what seek.
Arguing points to the point of beating a dead rabbit is not going to get anyone anywhere in solving a riddle. It is time to move forward from this gravity issue. I say that Newtonian Concepts are being questioned right now as I type this--I submitted an article on it a few weeks ago. So, in this sense, Dean is correct, it is not just Cater, but other pioneers who dare to step out of the bounds and bondage of conventional reasoning. That is what it takes to be a seeker. You must walk where none other dares, you must not care what anyone thinks of you, and you must free yourself of all prior teachings and dogma. Your mind must be crystal clear of all brainwashing for it to grasp new ideas. And, you must not be afraid of making mistakes, because mistakes will be made along the way---but with them we learn, and move on to another idea.
I use to post quite a bit on this group. Most of my posts went ignored. No one wanted to hear about "astral traveling" yet even our Military uses Remote Viewers. There have been people throughout history who have had the capability to see both into the future and the past. I am not unique in this, many before me, many at this time, and many more to come. It is recorded in holy books, and in history books, yet, a person who uses these abilities are still considered, even in this new millenium, one who doe the work of Satan, or is an evil person, or a witch--in many religions, but primarily Christians---how unfortunate! Myself, I think that the religions who ban this sort of thing do so to keep their flock in complete control. How sad. But, I solved my problem, I went to Onelight where Greg welcomed me with open arms, where what I do is accepted. It was offered here first, and it was considered to volatile for the members of this group who can not separate their religious training from their HE investigations. I wonder what type of worship those who live beneath our feet practice---sure would be a treat to find out.
Like Hazel, and Mata, I have constantly tired to put forth the idea that to study a HE, or any civilization for that matter, one must look at the "whole" concept, not just one piece of the puzzle. Astrology, astronomy, earthworks, pyramids, symbology. sacred geometry, art work, books, alchemical studies, etc., are all interwoven around the mystery---if you don't believe me, then Etidorhpa, which has been an accepted book on this list---is full of all that I mention. Etidorhpa which is Aphrodite spelled backwards should be a big clue--as adepts wrote right to left, and also backwards to disguise some of their secrets, yet it takes another adept to figure the puzzle. Aphrodite was born of the sea in the foam and she road across the waters on the West Winds---now, I would ask --why was Aphrodite born of the sea--what is the foam surrounding her-- "soft particles"--openings into a HE. Maybe, maybe not--but the title of that book was not randomly selected!
I know there have been many others on this list who have contribute "off-the-wall" ideas that do not revolve just around gravity--but I mention 3 women because I have found, not always, but many times, women are ignored more so than men when it comes to subjects where men were/are considered the experts---or, it is considered a "men's club". Yes, Hazel left and I do not blame her one bit as she could not get any of her ideas across which was too bad, she is a very bright person. MaTa, bless her heart, still plugs away with many good thoughts, myself, I have quit posting and am now an official lurker with only an occasional voice like now.
If you want to find a HE, then at least let your minds be open enough to consider that Newton just may have made an error about gravity--cuz I am telling you all, like I have said before--there is life on the Moon, there is life on Mars. and there is a HE with many openings! I think it is funny that now, after many people have claimed we are not the only ones in this universe, that we are finally hearing evidence of both life on Moon and Mars. Rule number one when searching for anything---don't discount anything along the way. And, we each have two sides to our brains, a logical side and a creative side---I think these to sides need to merge for this mystery to be solved.
In Spirit, Leslee
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
...........Edmund Burke
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