Ralph, I think you would like this site. Leslee
http://www.ascension2000.com/Shift-of-the-Ages/index.htm
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Ralph, I think you would like this
site. Leslee
http://www.ascension2000.com/Shift-of-the-Ages/index.htm
Leslee... From Dick Fojut,
Thanks for the URL above, "Shift of
the Ages." Interesting material.
Unfortunately the author uses
small Times Roman for all his text which (at least on my monitors) is
difficult to read quickly without smacking my face against the
screen!
Have just looked at his
Chapters on SETH and SUPERSTRING THEORY as popularized by Mischio
Kaku (whom Art Bell slobberingly refers to as "The World's Greatest
THEORETICAL Physicist.") Heard Kaku AGAIN on Art Bell a few
nights ago. (Must be over a dozen times on Art Bell by now!)
I was pleased to see that
Author David Wilcock credits the IDEA of "Superstring" theory as
coming from SETH through Jane Roberts 20 years before Mischio Kaku
wrote about it. I've listened to Kaku MANY times in recent years
since Art Bell "discovered" him. I detected so many "Seth"
phrases accidentally pop out of the mouth of the very boastful
doctor, I have become convinced Kaku (like I have about several other
science writers since the 1960s) Kaku has "borrowed" much of his
alternate universes and "string" ideas FROM Seth (and Jane
Roberts)
As I recall, Roberts (as Seth)
lectured at some eastern universities in the late 1960s as well as
producing her early books. Kaku could not have been ignorant of the
SETH "material" during those years when he was a student.
But I have to disagree with
Author Wilcock who seems to have fixated on her book "The Seth
Material" book for his main references.
In my opinion THE best and
most VALUABLE and USEFUL of the Seth books was and is "THE NATURE
OF PERSONAL REALITY" which I first bought in 1973. In fact,
after a lifetime of reading MANY fine and enlightening books
(material and articles) which I still greatly value, I consider
Roberts' "The Nature of Personal Reality" book as THE
BEST of the best of all books, a classic that can inspire and
enormously EXPAND the thinking of EVERY reader (above the level of
moron). Can't recall how many copies I bought and gave to individuals
during the 70s and 80s (when books cost less).
There are only two other books
I still value AS HIGHLY as her above book; they are the 2 Churchward
science and geology volumes, "Cosmic Forces of MU," books one and
two. (His final two before his death.) List members are probably
aware.
Back to String theory.. .
From that "Nature of Personal Reality" book, ALL of Kaku's
"borrowings" can also have originated. And much more (though he
limits his alternate universes to 10 or so, not a near infinite
number as seemingly suggested by Seth). Kaku was a student in the
1960s and 1970s and it seems impossible that he failed to become
familiar with Roberts' books and ideas. I've heard him tell Bell that
"Hitler and Germany won WW2 in an alternate universe
(Reality)." I think that was just one particular Seth story
in Nature of Personal Reality, that Kaku has gotten stuck in his
memory bank without recalling where he heard it.
I don't mind somebody like
Kaku "borrowing" from Seth and EXTRAPOLATING from there. But
I don't like Kaku's pomposity, claiming ALL ORIGINATION for his
(obvious to me) "borrowed" ideas about alternate universes,
giving NO credit to Jane Roberts. Even Col. ED DAMES (Bell's favorite
remote viewer) on one program, admitted to a caller that "Nature of
Personal Reality" was THE book that originally turned him on to
everything he went into afterward. Interesting. At least he didn't
mind praising a non-scientific WOMAN writer.
But I also personally
think KAKU has greatly screwed up the ideas he "borrowed" from
SETH. Pratt, in his recent online book, also does not hold String
theory very highly. Just theoretical. Remember, Kaku's "String
theory" is PURELY THEORETICAL without a ANY real universe proofs.
His PhD label alone is what gives any credence to admirers. "He
must know. He's a PROFESSOR with a degree!" How much
attention would this theory (from the world's greatest theoretical
physicist) receive if he was just plain Mischio Kaku, a computer
programmer (with no degree), who once read some Seth books? (Maybe
that is happening in an alternate universe Kaku!).
Kaku is clearly (to me)
an otherwise strictly ORTHODOX "big bang" ATHEIST who wants
to dismiss any underlying spiritual reality from his "string
theory" notions. And in so being, Kaku goes off into ridiculous
tangents about "energy" (for example) that other Art Bell
listeners may also have noticed. Like 99.9% or more other current
"science" thinkers, Kaku too seems totally ignorant about James
Churchward... AND Cater, Lamprecht... and ANY others who propose that
reality (and alternate realities) have a spiritual foundation.
Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Shift of the Ages
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From:
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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:22 AMSubject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Shift of the Ages
http://www.ascension2000.com/Shift-of-the-Ages/index.htm
Dick Fojut,wrote:
< Thanks for the URL above, "Shift of the Ages." Interesting material.>
No problem Dick. I usually spend an hour or so surfing a few times a week. I thought this site was rounded out enough that many on this group would find at least one topic to read. I know Ralph likes Edgar Cayce so that is why I addressed it to him.
<nfortunately the author uses small Times Roman for all his text which (at least on my monitors) is difficult to read quickly without smacking my face against the screen!>
That is hard on anyone's eyes!
** <Have just looked at his Chapters on SETH and SUPERSTRING THEORY as popularized by Mischio Kaku (whom Art Bell slobberingly refers to as "The World's Greatest THEORETICAL Physicist.")** Heard Kaku AGAIN on Art Bell a few nights ago. (Must be over a dozen times on Art Bell by now!)>
I have read quite a bit on the SuperString Theory. But, and I am ashamed to say this, I have never read Seth. Copies are easy to find so I may get out at the end of the week and pick one up.
< ** I was pleased to see that Author David Wilcock credits the IDEA of "Superstring" theory as coming from SETH through Jane Roberts 20 years before Mischio Kaku wrote about it.** >
David Wilcox, by looking over his site, seemed like an honest man to me. I Figure he gives due credit to those who earned it.
<I've listened to Kaku MANY times in recent years since Art Bell "discovered" him. I detected so many "Seth" phrases accidentally pop out of the mouth of the very boastful doctor, I have become convinced Kaku (like I have about several other science writers since the 1960s) Kaku has "borrowed" much of his alternate universes and "string" ideas FROM Seth (and Jane Roberts)>
I guess I am going to have to listen to Art Bell one of these nights. Everywhere I am reading about the man. A very popular person!
< As I recall, Roberts (as Seth) lectured at some eastern universities in the late 1960s as well as producing her early books. Kaku could not have been ignorant of the SETH "material" during those years when he was a student.>
This was before I could think--well, not true, but was in grade school at the time, so can't comment.
< But I have to disagree with Author Wilcock who seems to have fixated on her book "The Seth Material" book for his main references. ** In my opinion THE best and most VALUABLE and USEFUL of the Seth books was and is "THE NATURE OF PERSONAL REALITY" which I first bought in 1973**.>
Then this is the one I shall purchase.
< ** There are only two other books I still value AS HIGHLY as her above book; they are the 2 Churchward science and geology volumes, "Cosmic Forces of MU," books one and two. (His final two before his death.) List members are probably aware.>**
I have these on order.
<Even Col. ED DAMES (Bell's favorite remote viewer) on one program, admitted to a caller that "Nature of Personal Reality" was THE book that originally turned him on to everything he went into afterward. Interesting. At least he didn't mind praising a non-scientific WOMAN writer.>
I can tell you from experience that complimenting a non-scientific woman writer comes few and far between. Probably most literature is written by men. Publishers seem to like them, but I htink the field is beginnig to open more for female authors.
** <But I also personally think KAKU has greatly screwed up the ideas he "borrowed" from SETH** . Pratt, in his recent online book, also does not hold String theory very highly. Just theoretical. Remember, Kaku's "String theory" is PURELY THEORETICAL without a ANY real universe proofs. His PhD label alone is what gives any credence to admirers. "He must know. He's a PROFESSOR with a degree!" How much attention would this theory (from the world's greatest theoretical physicist) receive if he was just plain Mischio Kaku, a computer programmer (with no degree), who once read some Seth books? (Maybe that is happening in an alternate universe Kaku**!).>**
** -----this is funny! I do agree though with the rest.**
** <Kaku is clearly (to me) an otherwise strictly ORTHODOX "big bang" ATHEIST who wants to dismiss any underlying spiritual reality from his "string theory" notions.** >
Isn't is a shame that all the scientists of the world haven't read Etidorhpa? It is such a scientific book, directed at the scientific community to open their minds and that not all can be either seen or proven.
<And in so being, Kaku goes off into ridiculous tangents about "energy" (for example) that other Art Bell listeners may also have noticed. Like 99.9% or more other current "science" thinkers, Kaku too seems totally ignorant about James Churchward... AND Cater, Lamprecht... and ANY others who propose that reality (and alternate realities) have a spiritual foundation.>
I do not think they are ignorant of them--I think they steal their work, change it around, call it by a different name and then announce it as their own. I am glad you enjoyed the post Dick.
Take care, Leslee
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Shift of the
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Leslee... thanks again - and for your interesting comments to
my comments.
P.S. Much of the stuff on Art Bell has been forgettable.
You've missed nothing. But now and then some of the interviews with
outstanding individuals have been VERY worthwhile. I think Jeff
Rense' Sightings interviews are superior (many of the same people
interviewed), but Rense is not on AM radio nationally every night
like Art Bell. But to hear Bell EVERY night you have to become a
night owl! Or nearly give up sleep! My usual free lancing advertising
work for nearly 4 decades has been regularly working all night, most
week nights, to meet early morning Ad pickup deadlines. So I've long
been in the habit of being awake with a radio on most of the night.
But for you 8 or 9 AM daily job holders, I can't imagine how any of
you can listen to Bell till 3 AM (Tucson) and still get enough
sleep!
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick
Fojut To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:22 AMSubject:
Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Shift of the AgesDick Fojut,wrote:
< Thanks for the URL above,
"Shift of the Ages." Interesting material.>
No problem Dick. I usually spend an hour or so
surfing a few times a week. I thought this site was rounded out
enough that many on this group would find at least one topic to
read. I know Ralph likes Edgar Cayce so that is why I addressed
it to him.
<nfortunately the author uses small Times Roman for
all his text which (at least on my monitors) is difficult to read
quickly without smacking my face against the screen!>
That is hard on anyone's eyes!<Have just looked at his Chapters on SETH and
SUPERSTRING THEORY as popularized by Mischio Kaku (whom Art Bell
slobberingly refers to as "The World's Greatest THEORETICAL
Physicist.") Heard Kaku AGAIN on Art Bell a few nights ago.
(Must be over a dozen times on Art Bell by now!)>
I have read quite a bit on the SuperString Theory.
But, and I am ashamed to say this, I have never read Seth.
Copies are easy to find so I may get out at the end of the week and
pick one up.< I was pleased to see that Author David Wilcock
credits the IDEA of "Superstring" theory as coming from
SETH through Jane Roberts 20 years before Mischio Kaku wrote about
it. >
David Wilcox, by looking over his site, seemed
like an honest man to me. I Figure he gives due credit to those
who earned it.
<I've listened to Kaku MANY times in recent years
since Art Bell "discovered" him. I detected so many
"Seth" phrases accidentally pop out of the mouth of the
very boastful doctor, I have become convinced Kaku (like I have about
several other science writers since the 1960s) Kaku has
"borrowed" much of his alternate universes and
"string" ideas FROM Seth (and Jane Roberts)>
I guess I am going to have to listen to Art Bell one of
these nights. Everywhere I am reading about the man. A
very popular person!< As I recall, Roberts (as Seth) lectured at some
eastern universities in the late 1960s as well as producing her early
books. Kaku could not have been ignorant of the SETH
"material" during those years when he was a
student.>
This was before I could think--well, not true, but was in
grade school at the time, so can't comment.< But I have to disagree with Author Wilcock who seems
to have fixated on her book "The Seth Material" book for
his main references. In my opinion THE best and most VALUABLE
and USEFUL of the Seth books was and is "THE NATURE OF PERSONAL
REALITY" which I first bought in 1973.>
Then this is the one I shall purchase.
< There are only two other books
I still value AS HIGHLY as her above book; they are the 2 Churchward
science and geology volumes, "Cosmic Forces of MU," books
one and two. (His final two before his death.) List members are
probably aware.>
I have these on order.<Even Col. ED DAMES (Bell's favorite remote viewer) on
one program, admitted to a caller that "Nature of Personal
Reality" was THE book that originally turned him on to
everything he went into afterward. Interesting. At least he didn't
mind praising a non-scientific WOMAN writer.>
I can tell you from experience that complimenting a
non-scientific woman writer comes few and far
between. Probably most literature is written by men.
Publishers seem to like them, but I htink the field is beginnig to
open more for female authors.<But I also personally think KAKU has greatly
screwed up the ideas he "borrowed" from SETH. Pratt, in
his recent online book, also does not hold String theory very highly.
Just theoretical. Remember, Kaku's "String theory" is
PURELY THEORETICAL without a ANY real universe proofs. His PhD label
alone is what gives any credence to admirers. "He must know.
He's a PROFESSOR with a degree!" How much attention would
this theory (from the world's greatest theoretical physicist) receive
if he was just plain Mischio Kaku, a computer programmer (with no
degree), who once read some Seth books? (Maybe that is happening in
an alternate universe Kaku**!).>**
-----this is funny! I do agree though with the
rest.<Kaku is clearly (to me) an otherwise
strictly ORTHODOX "big bang" ATHEIST who wants to
dismiss any underlying spiritual reality from his "string
theory" notions. >
Isn't is a shame that all the scientists of the world
haven't read Etidorhpa? It is such a scientific book, directed
at the scientific community to open their minds and that not all can
be either seen or proven.
<And in so being, Kaku goes off into ridiculous
tangents about "energy" (for example) that other Art Bell
listeners may also have noticed. Like 99.9% or more other current
"science" thinkers, Kaku too seems totally ignorant about
James Churchward... AND Cater, Lamprecht... and ANY others who
propose that reality (and alternate realities) have a spiritual
foundation.>
I do not think they are ignorant of them--I think they
steal their work, change it around, call it by a different name and
then announce it as their own. I am glad you enjoyed the post
Dick.
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Shift of the Ages
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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Shift of the Ages
- Dick
< to hear Bell EVERY night you have to become a night owl! Or nearly give up sleep! >
I have been a night owl for years! I am still up when the roosters begin to crow.
<y usual free lancing advertising work for nearly 4 decades has been regularly working all night, most week nights, to meet early morning Ad pickup deadlines. So I've long been in the habit of being awake with a radio on most of the night.>
We have something in common. I worked as a designer/manufacturer of promotional products for retail stores. My own company. All my work transpired at night--and, although at times I had up to 40 working for me, they did piece work in their own homes.
So, I will turn him on one night and see what the man is all about.
Leslee
----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Fojut To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:22 AMSubject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Shift of the AgesDick Fojut,wrote:
< Thanks for the URL above, "Shift of the Ages." Interesting material.>
No problem Dick. I usually spend an hour or so surfing a few times a week. I thought this site was rounded out enough that many on this group would find at least one topic to read. I know Ralph likes Edgar Cayce so that is why I addressed it to him.
<nfortunately the author uses small Times Roman for all his text which (at least on my monitors) is difficult to read quickly without smacking my face against the screen!>
That is hard on anyone's eyes!** <Have just looked at his Chapters on SETH and SUPERSTRING THEORY as popularized by Mischio Kaku (whom Art Bell slobberingly refers to as "The World's Greatest THEORETICAL Physicist.")** Heard Kaku AGAIN on Art Bell a few nights ago. (Must be over a dozen times on Art Bell by now!)>
I have read quite a bit on the SuperString Theory. But, and I am ashamed to say this, I have never read Seth. Copies are easy to find so I may get out at the end of the week and pick one up.< ** I was pleased to see that Author David Wilcock credits the IDEA of "Superstring" theory as coming from SETH through Jane Roberts 20 years before Mischio Kaku wrote about it.** >
David Wilcox, by looking over his site, seemed like an honest man to me. I Figure he gives due credit to those who earned it.
<I've listened to Kaku MANY times in recent years since Art Bell "discovered" him. I detected so many "Seth" phrases accidentally pop out of the mouth of the very boastful doctor, I have become convinced Kaku (like I have about several other science writers since the 1960s) Kaku has "borrowed" much of his alternate universes and "string" ideas FROM Seth (and Jane Roberts)>
I guess I am going to have to listen to Art Bell one of these nights. Everywhere I am reading about the man. A very popular person!< As I recall, Roberts (as Seth) lectured at some eastern universities in the late 1960s as well as producing her early books. Kaku could not have been ignorant of the SETH "material" during those years when he was a student.> This was before I could think--well, not true, but was in grade school at the time, so can't comment. < But I have to disagree with Author Wilcock who seems to have fixated on her book "The Seth Material" book for his main references. ** In my opinion THE best and most VALUABLE and USEFUL of the Seth books was and is "THE NATURE OF PERSONAL REALITY" which I first bought in 1973**.>Then this is the one I shall purchase.
< ** There are only two other books I still value AS HIGHLY as her above book; they are the 2 Churchward science and geology volumes, "Cosmic Forces of MU," books one and two. (His final two before his death.) List members are probably aware.>**
I have these on order.<Even Col. ED DAMES (Bell's favorite remote viewer) on one program, admitted to a caller that "Nature of Personal Reality" was THE book that originally turned him on to everything he went into afterward. Interesting. At least he didn't mind praising a non-scientific WOMAN writer.> I can tell you from experience that complimenting a non-scientific woman writer comes few and far between. Probably most literature is written by men. Publishers seem to like them, but I htink the field is beginnig to open more for female authors.** <But I also personally think KAKU has greatly screwed up the ideas he "borrowed" from SETH** . Pratt, in his recent online book, also does not hold String theory very highly. Just theoretical. Remember, Kaku's "String theory" is PURELY THEORETICAL without a ANY real universe proofs. His PhD label alone is what gives any credence to admirers. "He must know. He's a PROFESSOR with a degree!" How much attention would this theory (from the world's greatest theoretical physicist) receive if he was just plain Mischio Kaku, a computer programmer (with no degree), who once read some Seth books? (Maybe that is happening in an alternate universe Kaku**!).>**
** -----this is funny! I do agree though with the rest.**** <Kaku is clearly (to me) an otherwise strictly ORTHODOX "big bang" ATHEIST who wants to dismiss any underlying spiritual reality from his "string theory" notions.** >
Isn't is a shame that all the scientists of the world haven't read Etidorhpa? It is such a scientific book, directed at the scientific community to open their minds and that not all can be either seen or proven.
<And in so being, Kaku goes off into ridiculous tangents about "energy" (for example) that other Art Bell listeners may also have noticed. Like 99.9% or more other current "science" thinkers, Kaku too seems totally ignorant about James Churchward... AND Cater, Lamprecht... and ANY others who propose that reality (and alternate realities) have a spiritual foundation.>
I do not think they are ignorant of them--I think they steal their work, change it around, call it by a different name and then announce it as their own. I am glad you enjoyed the post Dick.
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