The Original Etidorhpa

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List Members,

This guy from the Lloyd Museum says that, although some chapters were dropped, the CONTENTS were added to other chapters.

Could this be?

Dharma/

He said:

We would need specific pages and editions to know what you were looking for. As the publishing history move from the author's edition through current editions some chapters were dropped but the content was added to other chapters.
We have all or most of the editions of Etidorpha for use in the Library if you would like to undertake this research.

Our charges for photocopying are a minimum of $10.00 per article, up to 25 pages and $0.10 per page thereafter.

Dennis B. Worthen, PhD
Executive Director
Lloyd Library and Museum
917 Plum Street
Cincinnati, OH 45202

Dean wrote:

Dear Doctor Worthern,

We are requesting photocopies of the chapters from the original version of the book Etidorhpa, which were omitted from subsequent publications.

Can you help?

Thanks for the attention,

Dean De Lucia

What is it that you are requesting?
Dennis B. Worthen, PhD
Executive Director
Lloyd Library and Museum
917 Plum Street
Cincinnati, OH 45202
513/721-3707

Dennis B. Worthen, PhD
Executive Director

Dean wrote:

Dear Dennis Worthen, I and the members of my list/forum, allplanets-hollow, are interested in obtaining a copy of the original Etidorhpa. It seems that subsequent copies omitted several chapters found in the original. Thank you for your attention and I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Dean De Lucia

Related thread: John Uri Llyod museum — Part of the Lloyd Library enquiry into Etidorhpa's missing chapters (Dec 2000)

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Dean and Group,
It's nice to hear that they are aware that there were other chapters which
were dropped. However, although a few elements of the dropped chapters are
repeated or alluded to in other chapters, the entire revelation of the
original mystery publisher and the overall covert tone of the introductory
chapters are not in any of the subsequent chapters. That includes the unique
experiment about discovering our perceptive abilities above and beyond our
gift of sight. This was given as part of the urgency and need by the author
to authenticate the story as a true account. It read as though he was
attempting to counter efforts which he knew were being made to squelch the
dessimination of the information in the book. It put a whole new tone on the
original reading of the work. Later readings had this almost antiseptic
cleansing of any covert activities, even though the dead body appeared in
a different light.
by the way, for what it is worth, I found some of my original notes on
Etidorhpa. I have two sources written down of the title, Etidorhpa - Or the
End of Earth, John Uri Lloyd, 1806. Both independent sources refer to 1806.
I have the library #, 808.832 L777e (or c). I don't know if that's a
Library of Congress number or not, but it was the number I used to find this
original version.
Maybe it will help. More to follow.
Norlan

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Norlan,

Ok, that does it. We have to get the original from the Llyod museum.

But what are the names of the missing chapters? I guess that I could say "
give me the chapters that aren't included in the subsequent printings." It
would be nice, though, if I could tell him which ones by name. Anyone close
to Cincinati?

Dharma/Dean

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Tuscan,

" With all chapters?"

Do you think that there are some chapters which even your book doesn't have?

I am going to ask the guy at the Llyod Museum to send a list of the original
table of contents.

Dean

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In the copy that I purchased from Kessinger Publishing, in the back
portion of the book there is a page that says: ............. Also,
The Chapters Excluded from Former Editions of Etidorhpa. And I've
already emailed you what those chapters are in relation to the Table
of Contents that was earlier posted.

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Members,

In retrospect, how will the missing chapters really help us unless you need
more convincing somehow that the earth is hollow? I can see these nuances
making a difference if they gave us the true coordinants on how to enter into
the hollow portion; that should be our objective, coupled with finding ways
to alert the sheep of this fact.

Mike

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Members,

From page 142 of Etidorhpa:

MY WEIGHT DISAPPEARING.

We halted suddenly, for we cattle unexpectedly to the edge of a precipice,
twenty feet at least in depth.

" Let us jump down," said my guide.

" That would be dangerous," I answered; " can not we descend at some point
where it is not so deep?"

" No; the chasm stretches for miles across our path, and at this point we
will meet with the least difficulty; besides, there is no danger. The
specific gravity of our bodies is now so little that we could jump twice
that distance with impunity."

" I can not comprehend you; we are in the flesh, our bodies are possessed of
weight, the concussion will be violent."

" You reason again from the condition of your former life, and, as usual,
are mistaken; there will be little shock, for, as I have said, our bodies
are comparatively light now. Have you forgotten that your motion is
continuously accelerated, and that without perceptible exertion you move
rapidly? This is partly because of the loss of weight. Your weight would now
be only about fifty pounds if tested by a spring balance."
I stood incredulous.

"You trifle with me; I weigh over one hundred and fifty pounds; how have I
lost weight ? It is true that I have noticed the ease with which we have
recently progressed on our journey, especially the latter part of it, but I
attribute this, in part, to the fact that our course is down an incline, and
also to the vitalizing power of this cavern air."

" This explains part of the matter," he said; " it answered at the time, and
I stated a fact; but were it not that you are
really consuming a comparatively small amount of energy, you would long
before this have been completely exhausted.

[ End of Etidorhpa ]

The Man conserved his energy because his body didn't have to fight against
the constriction of gravity.

Here is something from Chapter four of Cater's book which explains the
phenomena of diminishing gravity as one penetrates the crust.

" Most of the earth and moon gravity radiations are created in the first
fifty miles of their crusts. Below that level, much of the energy from the
sun has been transformed into softer particles, and the material of the
earth and moon is permeated with them.

These soft particles will screen out gravity radiations [ the electrostatic
charge ] more effectively than solid matter, because the ethers they are
associated with, are closer in frequency to those of the gravity charge. "

Really, Cater is the key to understanding Etidorhpa.

Dharma/Dean

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Members/Tuscan,

There do seem to be ice ridges around the opening. As Nansen approached the
North Pole, he was turned back by them. Peary and Cook had to overcome them
and pass over to reach the pole. I am under the impression that, from the
Pole on down 141* East longitude, until the opening, the ice smooths out.
This could be because the temperature, on the average, warms up. Nansen
definitely rported that way up around 85* latitude, in the early sSring, it
was warmer than when he went further South towards Franz Josef Land.

We keep talking about reading Cater and Etidorhpa, but practically all of
the Polar anomalies are documented in Nansen's book Farthest North, and
there are plenty of clues about the location of the opening. The book is
easy to get and only costs about $12.00.

Dharma/Dean

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Gerry wrote:

Hi, Jan, Dean, Rod, and All.

First off, Dean, I was very taken with your new site-section: "Images", and
must profess my sincerest admiration for your interesting and very
professional-looking website - even though I don't fully comprehend all the
Vedic aspects of it!

Dean wrote:

Thanks, Mac!

Gerry wrote:

Anyhow, to get down to brass tacks. I thank you for your message of Wed Dec
6, 2000, and it appears that we are now principally in agreement as to the
general location of a North Polar hole. I recently received (after an
agonising long wait) a copy of the wall-poster: "Age of the Ocean Floor",
which is a finely-produced piece of work, jointly produced by the NOAA and
six other organizations - which include well-respected US, Canadian,
Australian and French oceanic and geological institutions. Beside an
excellent coloured chart of the ocean floor geology, the poster also depicts
five excellent 3-D projections of the global ocean-beds, including great
depictions of the polar regions.

The Northern polar global view gives an excellent rendering of the bare
Arctic ocean floor, (at top-centre of the poster), and it is this which I
find surprisingly enlightening. If you wish to get a preview of it -
(unless you already have this same poster ), I suggest that you check out
the following -

crustageposter
crustageposter1728×2232 1.63 MB

  • where you'll find a small colour-image of this poster, which can be blown
    up to a fairly decent size by clicking on it!

Referring back to your text under the satellite-image Earth view. I would
suggest that, from my own perusal of ocean floor data, the "hazy, bluish"
triangular-crescent area of ice cover just above the New Siberian Islands is
located directly above what is, in fact, the very start of the tectonic
Mid-Atlantic Ridge ( this first section also being known as the "Nansen
Cordillera") which runs almost from the very side of the New Siberian
Islands and zig-zags across the pole and down the side of Greenland, under
Iceland, and on into the North Atlantic, and that, being a very highly
volcanic part of the ocean floor, this magma-extruding fracture is probably
responsible for the warm water in the sector you mention.

According to my comparisons with the actual ocean floor and your third
illustration - which shows Nansen's route to the Pole - he must have
travelled virtually directly above this hot ocean-floor fracture for much of
his trip across the ice! Hence the anomalous open stretches of warmish
sea, and mammals and land-birds, etc. that Nansen encountered!

Dean wrote:

The " magma-extruding fracture " can have a hand in the warmer waters which
Nansen encountered, but I don't think that it has to become, therefore, a
lone cause. It doesn't explain the existence of mammals so far away from
land, at least not very well.

Gerry wrote:

Because of this tectonic rift, I believe that any polar "hole" would need to
be located well aside from this plate-fracture zone - precisely as is
revealed in that global view of the Arctic ocean floor - which I've
mentioned above - in the top central image of the poster! Don't just take
my word for it. You can check and compare all this for yourself! You will
find substantial corroboration there, too, of your suggested "elongated
slit-like opening" - which corresponds quite well with the Russian magnetic
meridian concept! Thus it would seem, therefore, that, if this is indeed
the Polar Hole, it's not a circular one, but rather more of a triangular
aperture!

Before I close, Dean, let me ask you to glance back at your first "Image".
(The satellite photo of the ice-covered polar region, culled by Rod Cluff).
I am pretty well convinced that the actual position of both the "hole" (and
the Pole) is about 20mm above that first bluish patch you mention, under
the next mauve-coloured patch (which rather resembles a valley beneath the
peak of Mount Everest). Can you see what I'm driving at?

I feel we might actually finally be getting somewhere with all this, by
comparing a variety of different images from far less- biased sources, don't
you? I just can't really see any sane reason why these particular images
would have needed to be tampered with - especially when the one on the
poster distinctly shows a triangular black hole in the Arctic Ocean sea
floor! Be interested to hear, Dean, what you and Jan make of all this.
I'd also like to hear your views too, Rod!

List Members,

My interesting correspondence with Gerry continues:

Dean wrote:

You said: " I am pretty well convinced that the actual position of both
the "hole" (and the Pole) is about 20mm above that first bluish patch you
mention, under the next mauve-coloured patch "

This is still right at about 84.4* latitude. On my Images page, in that
first caption, I brought it down to 79* because the bluish part of that
first " image " seemed lower than Rod's 84.4* However, that bluish part
doesn't have to BE the opening, of course. It can be indicative of the
opening because warmer waters of the opening can typically flow into and
through that bluish patch and, of course, your comments about the volcanic
ridge below Nansen's route warming that area can also apply. So I think we
are back to Rod's 84.4* as a latitude. I really think that we are all on the
same page in this regard.

Rod mentioned that: " It is interesting that the north atlantic ridge
terminates just west of the New Siberian Islands."

Again, this accomodates 84.4* N and 141* East.

By the way, once one gets to 85* latitude, there isn't much difference
between 141* of longitude and, say, 135*, right?

Dean