Testing ...
Dean
Testing ...
Dean
Dean,
Here is a recent post that I think the group will find to be interesting:
http://hollowplanet.blogspot.com/2011/07/wwii-german-maps-of-antarctic-entrance.html
Let me know what you think.
~Shilo
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Dean D <[email protected]> wrote:
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Testing ...
Dean
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Mriduu Dasi,
That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@...> wrote:
________________________________
. not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
a very interesting link:
diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
love
mrduup://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
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So Dean,
How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Mriduu Dasi,
That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
Dean
--- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
>
> a very interesting link:
>
> diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
>
> love
> mrduu
>
>
>
>
> p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
Semisi,
According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@...> wrote:
So Dean,
How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> Mriduu Dasi,
>
> That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
>
> Dean
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> >
> > a very interesting link:
> >
> > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> >
> > love
> > mrduu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Dean,
Why not her? Why not anyone, for that matter? Do the transmissions HAVE to be about accomplishing world welfare accomplishments? I like to measure "channelings" and "transmissions" via the "fabric of my soul" within me, to "measure" truth by, not provable by tangible scientific evidence that is directly in my hands. I actually like her stuff, and haven't found (personally) much wrong with it. Yes, though... it is on her word, but for me (thankfully), I do not have only that to go on, but "intuition" and the ability to "check in", so to speak on whatever matter I would like direction on, from "The Creator Source". Anyway, just some of my thoughts, have a great weekend, Aloha, Semisi
--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Semisi,
According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
>
> So Dean,
> How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Mriduu Dasi,
> >
> > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > >
> > > a very interesting link:
> > >
> > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > >
> > > love
> > > mrduu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>
Semisi,
"Why her?" Why anyone. They apparently have a physical presence on the surface of the Earth, starting at the opening. If they have such UFO technology, then they must at least have a few agents running around. Norse mythology tells of their making their physical presence known even a couple thousand years ago. So why just telepathic communication?
The fact remains that if she wants to make a public spectacle of her telepathic communications with people from the inner earth, then she has to present some kind of evidence. Again, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@...> wrote:
Dean,
Why not her? Why not anyone, for that matter? Do the transmissions HAVE to be about accomplishing world welfare accomplishments? I like to measure "channelings" and "transmissions" via the "fabric of my soul" within me, to "measure" truth by, not provable by tangible scientific evidence that is directly in my hands. I actually like her stuff, and haven't found (personally) much wrong with it. Yes, though... it is on her word, but for me (thankfully), I do not have only that to go on, but "intuition" and the ability to "check in", so to speak on whatever matter I would like direction on, from "The Creator Source". Anyway, just some of my thoughts, have a great weekend, Aloha, Semisi--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> Semisi,
>
> According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
>
> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
>
> It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
>
> I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> >
> > So Dean,
> > How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mriduu Dasi,
> > >
> > > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > > >
> > > > a very interesting link:
> > > >
> > > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > > >
> > > > love
> > > > mrduu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
I think that she actually presents evidence in a sense, in the writings themselves...
Of course, if you are wanting physical evidence, that probably won't happen. Why would inner earth groups give out "evidence", or tangible proof of their existence, if that would potentially make their places of refuges vulnerable to surface dweller barbarians, who mostly are bent on WAR/conquest, gain and glory.... always anxious to be the "First" discoverer, to lay claim to discoveries etc...???
I know if I was one of their Elders, I would be VERY careful what exactly I reveal to surface dwellers whose "true intentions", in getting to know them may not all be pure. Why not anyone? I actually have received communications myself from them... but I am hesitant to share those things, as... as you say, you would have to just go on my word. No problem... I'll just keep those sacred things to myself... haha. Telepathic communication, is probably just the beginning, and a way to see the response of the general masses. If disbelief, and ridicule has been/is the norm... they (inner earthers) would probably reserve themselves from continuing to the next step (individual contact?) Have a great weekend, Semisi
--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Semisi,
"Why her?" Why anyone. They apparently have a physical presence on the surface of the Earth, starting at the opening. If they have such UFO technology, then they must at least have a few agents running around. Norse mythology tells of their making their physical presence known even a couple thousand years ago. So why just telepathic communication?
The fact remains that if she wants to make a public spectacle of her telepathic communications with people from the inner earth, then she has to present some kind of evidence. Again, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
>
> Dean,
> Why not her? Why not anyone, for that matter? Do the transmissions HAVE to be about accomplishing world welfare accomplishments? I like to measure "channelings" and "transmissions" via the "fabric of my soul" within me, to "measure" truth by, not provable by tangible scientific evidence that is directly in my hands. I actually like her stuff, and haven't found (personally) much wrong with it. Yes, though... it is on her word, but for me (thankfully), I do not have only that to go on, but "intuition" and the ability to "check in", so to speak on whatever matter I would like direction on, from "The Creator Source". Anyway, just some of my thoughts, have a great weekend, Aloha, Semisi
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Semisi,
> >
> > According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
> >
> > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
> >
> > It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
> >
> > I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So Dean,
> > > How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mriduu Dasi,
> > > >
> > > > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > Dean
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > > > >
> > > > > a very interesting link:
> > > > >
> > > > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > > > >
> > > > > love
> > > > > mrduu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Dean. It's not just Dianne Robbins. About 1 out 5 surface folks are telepathic and they control a vast portion of the business world.
--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Semisi,
"Why her?" Why anyone. They apparently have a physical presence on the surface of the Earth, starting at the opening. If they have such UFO technology, then they must at least have a few agents running around. Norse mythology tells of their making their physical presence known even a couple thousand years ago. So why just telepathic communication?
The fact remains that if she wants to make a public spectacle of her telepathic communications with people from the inner earth, then she has to present some kind of evidence. Again, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
>
> Dean,
> Why not her? Why not anyone, for that matter? Do the transmissions HAVE to be about accomplishing world welfare accomplishments? I like to measure "channelings" and "transmissions" via the "fabric of my soul" within me, to "measure" truth by, not provable by tangible scientific evidence that is directly in my hands. I actually like her stuff, and haven't found (personally) much wrong with it. Yes, though... it is on her word, but for me (thankfully), I do not have only that to go on, but "intuition" and the ability to "check in", so to speak on whatever matter I would like direction on, from "The Creator Source". Anyway, just some of my thoughts, have a great weekend, Aloha, Semisi
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Semisi,
,> According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
> >
> > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
> >
> > It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
> >
> > I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So Dean,
> > > How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mriduu Dasi,
> > > >
> > > > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > Dean
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > > > >
> > > > > a very interesting link:
> > > > >
> > > > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > > > >
> > > > > love
> > > > > mrduu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Well, Etidorhpa does tell of mind-reading "handlers" (A nice word for "lackey") who operate on the surface of the Earth, though engaging in subterranean manipulation of the surface world. They must be out and about in society, in places like business and government. But one in five? I dunno.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "lightofmilkyway" <lightofmilkyway@...> wrote:
Dean. It's not just Dianne Robbins. About 1 out 5 surface folks are telepathic and they control a vast portion of the business world.
--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> Semisi,
>
> "Why her?" Why anyone. They apparently have a physical presence on the surface of the Earth, starting at the opening. If they have such UFO technology, then they must at least have a few agents running around. Norse mythology tells of their making their physical presence known even a couple thousand years ago. So why just telepathic communication?
>
> The fact remains that if she wants to make a public spectacle of her telepathic communications with people from the inner earth, then she has to present some kind of evidence. Again, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
>
> Dean
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> >
> > Dean,
> > Why not her? Why not anyone, for that matter? Do the transmissions HAVE to be about accomplishing world welfare accomplishments? I like to measure "channelings" and "transmissions" via the "fabric of my soul" within me, to "measure" truth by, not provable by tangible scientific evidence that is directly in my hands. I actually like her stuff, and haven't found (personally) much wrong with it. Yes, though... it is on her word, but for me (thankfully), I do not have only that to go on, but "intuition" and the ability to "check in", so to speak on whatever matter I would like direction on, from "The Creator Source". Anyway, just some of my thoughts, have a great weekend, Aloha, Semisi
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Semisi,
>,> According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
> > >
> > > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
> > >
> > > It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
> > >
> > > I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So Dean,
> > > > How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mriduu Dasi,
> > > > >
> > > > > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dean
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a very interesting link:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > love
> > > > > > mrduu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Hang in there, Dean. Their emergence is in the works. We have to be very
patient.
Mike M
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Dean D <[email protected]> wrote:
**
Semisi,
"Why her?" Why anyone. They apparently have a physical presence on the
surface of the Earth, starting at the opening. If they have such UFO
technology, then they must at least have a few agents running around. Norse
mythology tells of their making their physical presence known even a couple
thousand years ago. So why just telepathic communication?The fact remains that if she wants to make a public spectacle of her
telepathic communications with people from the inner earth, then she has to
present some kind of evidence. Again, extraordinary claims require
extraordinary evidence.Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@...> wrote:
>
> Dean,
> Why not her? Why not anyone, for that matter? Do the transmissions HAVE
to be about accomplishing world welfare accomplishments? I like to measure
"channelings" and "transmissions" via the "fabric of my soul" within me, to
"measure" truth by, not provable by tangible scientific evidence that is
directly in my hands. I actually like her stuff, and haven't found
(personally) much wrong with it. Yes, though... it is on her word, but for
me (thankfully), I do not have only that to go on, but "intuition" and the
ability to "check in", so to speak on whatever matter I would like direction
on, from "The Creator Source". Anyway, just some of my thoughts, have a
great weekend, Aloha, Semisi
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Semisi,
> >
> > According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth?
And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved
in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
> >
> > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really
have to go on is her word.
> >
> > It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live
in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as
Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical
beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body
of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for
the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they
want to.
> >
> > I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her
evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So Dean,
> > > How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view?
Thanks, Semisi
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mriduu Dasi,
> > > >
> > > > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for
fibbing, IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > Dean
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the
inner earth
> > > > >
> > > > > a very interesting link:
> > > > >
> > > > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > > > >
> > > > > love
> > > > > mrduu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Más aún Sr. Dean.
Las canalizaciones, del tipo que sea, telepáticas, apariciones, mediante ouija, escritura automática, incluso posesión del canal por la entidad "superior", son siempre sospechosas por definición.
Y no porque yo lo diga, lo han repetido los expertos desde hace muchos años, y también ha sido expresado a través de las propias canalizaciones, que desconfiemos.
Mensajes que luego han sido contrastados como falsos no brillan por su ausencia; verborrea insulsa o incluso irracional campa por doquier.
Es uno de los mecanismos de control que emplean las agendas ocultas desde hace milenios. Hoy en día hay canalizaciones para todos los gustos. Forma parte de la avalancha para la desinformación, y persigue provocar diferencias entre nosotros y que sigamos perdidos.
Tampoco es infrecuente que el canalizado obre de buena fé, y él mismo esté siendo objeto de utilización o manipulación. Otros llegan más lejos, directamente se inventan sus patrañas por motivaciones de índole bastante más mundana.
No las estoy reprobando todas de forma indiscriminada, por supuesto. Existe material de mucho interés. Solo alerto hacia el fenómeno en general, a una credulidad que aún sin negar que se produce con buena voluntad, resulta rayana a la ingenuidad.
Las legítimas (corrupciones derivadas del filtro que supone la interpretación consciente del canalizado y su transcripción al margen) son minoría, e incluso dentro de ellas pueden manifestarse desfases.
Y es lógico que así sea, pues por lo general ¿qué tipo de entidades ultradimensionales serían más proclives a interferir con los humanos y manipularlos? ¿las benignas?
Cuando aparece alguien canalizando información en la cual grandilocuentemente se abunda con detalles en contarnos como es la vida en el más allá (por ejemplo) al punto de crear toda una cosmogonía profusamente ilustrada, normalmente desconfío.
Yo siempre digo que es mucho mejor no creer en algo, por ejemplo en la tierra hueca, solo porque te lo han contado y quieres antes disponer de elementos de juicio contrastados por ti mismo; a tragarte las patrañas que divulgue cualquier alucinado (o maestro auténtico, igual me da a este nivel) solamente por la misma razón: porque te lo han contado.
Mente abierta no es sinónimo de infantilidad. No porque pensemos que la tierra es hueca hemos necesariamente de tragarnos cualquier cosa que se haya escrito sobre el tema solo porque su autor coincide con nosotros en pensar (o decir) que la tierra es hueca. Hasta ahí de acuerdo, es hueca, pero las mismas reservas que cada uno en su momento mantuvimos hacia el concepto básico de la oquedad (Aristóteles: "Es de importancia para quien desee alcanzar una certeza en su investigación, el saber dudar a tiempo") esa famosa "mente abierta" nos llevará a filtrar cuidadosamente cualquier otro dato relacionado con el tema, lo "confirme" o lo desmienta; tragárselo sin más solamente porque otro dice que se lo han dicho (canalizado) no es conocimiento sino fé ciega.
Un aplauso por su sobriedad en este tema Sr. Dean.
IN GOOGLENGLISH
Moreover Mr. Dean.
The wiring of any kind, telepathy, apparitions, through Ouija board, automatic writing, including possession of the canal by the entity "superior", are always suspicious by definition.
Not because I say so, experts have repeated for many years, and has also been expressed through their own pipelines, to distrust.
Messages that have been verified then be false not absent, or even irrational bland verbiage campaign everywhere.
One of the control mechanisms that use hidden agendas for millennia. Today there are pipes for all tastes. Part of the rush for the misinformation, and pursues cause differences between us and that we lost.
Nor is it uncommon for the BOUT channeled in good faith, and he is being subjected to use or handling. Others go further, directly motivated fabrications invent their nature much more mundane.
I'm not failing all indiscriminately, of course. There is material of interest. Only alert to the phenomenon in general, a credulity that even without denying that there is good will, it is bordering on naivete.
Legitimate (corruptions resulting from the filter that is channeled conscious interpretation and transcription of the margin) are a minority, and even within them can manifest discrepancies.
And logically so, because usually what kind of entities ultradimensionales would be more likely to interfere with and manipulate humans? Do the benign?
When someone comes to channel information on which was grandly telling abounds with details on how life in the hereafter (for example) the point of creating a whole cosmogony profusely illustrated, usually suspicious.
I always say it's better not to believe in something, for example in the hollow earth, just because you have cash and want before you have contrasting evidence for yourself, to swallow the lies to disclose any hallucinated (or true teacher just like me at this level) only for the same reason: because you have told.
An open mind is not synonymous with childishness. Not because we think the Earth is hollow necessarily have to swallow anything that is written on the subject just because the author agrees with us in thinking (or saying) that the earth is hollow. So far agree, is hollow, but the same reservations as everyone at the time kept to the basic concept of the cavity (Aristotle: "It is important for those who wish to achieve certainty in their research, know doubt in time") that famous "open mind" we will carefully filter any information related to the topic, the "confirm" or disprove; swallow without just because other states that have said (channeling) is not knowledge but blind faith.
A round of applause for his sobriety in this matter Mr. Dean.
________________________________
De: Dean D <[email protected]>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 5:01
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
Semisi,
According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@...> wrote:
So Dean,
How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> Mriduu Dasi,
>
> That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
>
> Dean
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> >
> > a very interesting link:
> >
> > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> >
> > love
> > mrduu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sr. Maka ¿según lo que expresa en ese mail Dianne Robbins estaría poniendo en peligro la civilización intraterrena al revelar su existencia y facilitar con ello que sean conquistados?
La cosa es mucho más simple.
Existe la conspiración del silencio ¿verdad?
Si existe es porque conocen la verdad y nos la ocultan. Saben de la tierra hueca, de los hoyos polares y de la civilización interna, claro que saben, por eso nos lo ocultan, porque lo saben. Si lo ignorasen nada podrían ocultarnos y no habría conspiración.
Y entonces si ya lo saben ¿qué puede revelárseles?
Es obvio que si no conquistan el mundo interior no es porque ignoren su existencia, tampoco porque quieran exhibir un derroche de benevolencia de que adolecen para con los de su propia especie.
Si no lo hacen es porque no pueden, no porque no lo deseen.
Un saludo
EN GOOGLENGLISH
Mr. Maka • under what is expressed in this mail Dianne Robbins would endanger civilization intraterrestrial to reveal its existence and thus facilitate to be conquered?
The thing is much simpler.
There is a conspiracy of silence right?
If there is because we know the truth and hide it. They know about the hollow earth, the polar holes and internal civilization, of course you know, so we hide it, because they know it. If we ignore anything they could hide and would not conspiracy.
And then if you already know what can reveal Himself?
Obviously if you do not conquer the world because inside is not unaware of their existence, either because they want to show an outpouring of kindness that suffer for with their own kind.
If they do not is because they can not because they want it.
a greeting
________________________________
De: Maka <[email protected]>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 22:17
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
I think that she actually presents evidence in a sense, in the writings themselves...
Of course, if you are wanting physical evidence, that probably won't happen. Why would inner earth groups give out "evidence", or tangible proof of their existence, if that would potentially make their places of refuges vulnerable to surface dweller barbarians, who mostly are bent on WAR/conquest, gain and glory.... always anxious to be the "First" discoverer, to lay claim to discoveries etc...???
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Más aún Sr\. Dean\.
Las canalizaciones, del tipo que sea, telepáticas, apariciones, mediante ouija, escritura automática, incluso posesión del canal por la entidad "superior", son siempre sospechosas por definición.
Y no porque yo lo diga, lo han repetido los expertos desde hace muchos años, y también ha sido expresado a través de las propias canalizaciones, que desconfiemos.
Mensajes que luego han sido contrastados como falsos no brillan por su ausencia; verborrea insulsa o incluso irracional campa por doquier.
Es uno de los mecanismos de control que emplean las agendas ocultas desde hace milenios. Hoy en día hay canalizaciones para todos los gustos. Forma parte de la avalancha para la desinformación, y persigue provocar diferencias entre nosotros y que sigamos perdidos.
Tampoco es infrecuente que el canalizado obre de buena fé, y él mismo esté siendo objeto de utilización o manipulación. Otros llegan más lejos, directamente se inventan sus patrañas por motivaciones de índole bastante más mundana.
No las estoy reprobando todas de forma indiscriminada, por supuesto. Existe material de mucho interés. Solo alerto hacia el fenómeno en general, a una credulidad que aún sin negar que se produce con buena voluntad, resulta rayana a la ingenuidad.
Las legítimas (corrupciones derivadas del filtro que supone la interpretación consciente del canalizado y su transcripción al margen) son minoría, e incluso dentro de ellas pueden manifestarse desfases.
Y es lógico que así sea, pues por lo general ¿qué tipo de entidades ultradimensionales serían más proclives a interferir con los humanos y manipularlos? ¿las benignas?
Cuando aparece alguien canalizando información en la cual grandilocuentemente se abunda con detalles en contarnos como es la vida en el más allá (por ejemplo) al punto de crear toda una cosmogonía profusamente ilustrada, normalmente desconfío.
Yo siempre digo que es mucho mejor no creer en algo, por ejemplo en la tierra hueca, solo porque te lo han contado y quieres antes disponer de elementos de juicio contrastados por ti mismo; a tragarte las patrañas que divulgue cualquier alucinado (o maestro auténtico, igual me da a este nivel) solamente por la misma razón: porque te lo han contado.
Mente abierta no es sinónimo de infantilidad. No porque pensemos que la tierra es hueca hemos necesariamente de tragarnos cualquier cosa que se haya escrito sobre el tema solo porque su autor coincide con nosotros en pensar (o decir) que la tierra es hueca. Hasta ahí de acuerdo, es hueca, pero las mismas reservas que cada uno en su momento mantuvimos hacia el concepto básico de la oquedad (Aristóteles: "Es de importancia para quien desee alcanzar una certeza en su investigación, el saber dudar a tiempo") esa famosa "mente abierta" nos llevará a filtrar cuidadosamente cualquier otro dato relacionado con el tema, lo "confirme" o lo desmienta; tragárselo sin más solamente porque otro dice que se lo han dicho (canalizado) no es conocimiento sino fé ciega.
Un aplauso por su sobriedad en este tema Sr. Dean.
IN GOOGLENGLISH
Moreover Mr. Dean.
The wiring of any kind, telepathy, apparitions, through Ouija board, automatic writing, including possession of the canal by the entity "superior", are always suspicious by definition.
Not because I say so, experts have repeated for many years, and has also been expressed through their own pipelines, to distrust.
Messages that have been verified then be false not absent, or even irrational bland verbiage campaign everywhere.
One of the control mechanisms that use hidden agendas for millennia. Today there are pipes for all tastes. Part of the rush for the misinformation, and pursues cause differences between us and that we lost.
Nor is it uncommon for the BOUT channeled in good faith, and he is being subjected to use or handling. Others go further, directly motivated fabrications invent their nature much more mundane.
I'm not failing all indiscriminately, of course. There is material of interest. Only alert to the phenomenon in general, a credulity that even without denying that there is good will, it is bordering on naivete.
Legitimate (corruptions resulting from the filter that is channeled conscious interpretation and transcription of the margin) are a minority, and even within them can manifest discrepancies.
And logically so, because usually what kind of entities ultradimensionales would be more likely to interfere with and manipulate humans? Do the benign?
When someone comes to channel information on which was grandly telling abounds with details on how life in the hereafter (for example) the point of creating a whole cosmogony profusely illustrated, usually suspicious.
I always say it's better not to believe in something, for example in the hollow earth, just because you have cash and want before you have contrasting evidence for yourself, to swallow the lies to disclose any hallucinated (or true teacher just like me at this level) only for the same reason: because you have told.
An open mind is not synonymous with childishness. Not because we think the Earth is hollow necessarily have to swallow anything that is written on the subject just because the author agrees with us in thinking (or saying) that the earth is hollow. So far agree, is hollow, but the same reservations as everyone at the time kept to the basic concept of the cavity (Aristotle: "It is important for those who wish to achieve certainty in their research, know doubt in time") that famous "open mind" we will carefully filter any information related to the topic, the "confirm" or disprove; swallow without just because other states that have said (channeling) is not knowledge but blind faith.
A round of applause for his sobriety in this matter Mr. Dean.
De: Dean D <[email protected]>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 5:01
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
Semisi,
According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@...> wrote:
So Dean,
How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> Mriduu Dasi,
>
> That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
>
> Dean
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> >
> > a very interesting link:
> >
> > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> >
> > love
> > mrduu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
People,
Allow us to indulge a bit.
Ger, tú no escribes Ingles? Está bien, puedes escribireme in Castellano, pero mejor particularmente porque las personas de la lista no entienden Español.
De donde eres, si me permite preguntar? Soy norteamericano de Washington, la capital, pero vivo en Sao Paulo, Brasil, desde hace 16 años. Aprendí el Castellano cuando era joven, que vivi en Venezueal, Puero Rico y España.
De acuerdo con eso de la canalización. Ese tipo de conversa, sin substancia, puede marginal personas serias del grupo.
Vamos a quedarnos en comunicación, hombre. No tenemos muchos latinos en la lista.
Roberto Landolpho es Brasileño que vive en mi ciudad, São Paulo.
Servidor!
Dean "Dino"
--- In [email protected], Ger <mumumu46@...> wrote:
Más aún Sr\. Dean\.Las canalizaciones, del tipo que sea, telepáticas, apariciones, mediante ouija, escritura automática, incluso posesión del canal por la entidad "superior", son siempre sospechosas por definición.
Y no porque yo lo diga, lo han repetido los expertos desde hace muchos años, y también ha sido expresado a través de las propias canalizaciones, que desconfiemos.
Mensajes que luego han sido contrastados como falsos no brillan por su ausencia; verborrea insulsa o incluso irracional campa por doquier.
Es uno de los mecanismos de control que emplean las agendas ocultas desde hace milenios. Hoy en día hay canalizaciones para todos los gustos. Forma parte de la avalancha para la desinformación, y persigue provocar diferencias entre nosotros y que sigamos perdidos.
Tampoco es infrecuente que el canalizado obre de buena fé, y él mismo esté siendo objeto de utilización o manipulación. Otros llegan más lejos, directamente se inventan sus patrañas por motivaciones de índole bastante más mundana.
No las estoy reprobando todas de forma indiscriminada, por supuesto. Existe material de mucho interés. Solo alerto hacia el fenómeno en general, a una credulidad que aún sin negar que se produce con buena voluntad, resulta rayana a la ingenuidad.
Las legítimas (corrupciones derivadas del filtro que supone la interpretación consciente del canalizado y su transcripción al margen) son minoría, e incluso dentro de ellas pueden manifestarse desfases.
Y es lógico que así sea, pues por lo general ¿qué tipo de entidades ultradimensionales serían más proclives a interferir con los humanos y manipularlos? ¿las benignas?
Cuando aparece alguien canalizando información en la cual grandilocuentemente se abunda con detalles en contarnos como es la vida en el más allá (por ejemplo) al punto de crear toda una cosmogonía profusamente ilustrada, normalmente desconfío.
Yo siempre digo que es mucho mejor no creer en algo, por ejemplo en la tierra hueca, solo porque te lo han contado y quieres antes disponer de elementos de juicio contrastados por ti mismo; a tragarte las patrañas que divulgue cualquier alucinado (o maestro auténtico, igual me da a este nivel) solamente por la misma razón: porque te lo han contado.
Mente abierta no es sinónimo de infantilidad. No porque pensemos que la tierra es hueca hemos necesariamente de tragarnos cualquier cosa que se haya escrito sobre el tema solo porque su autor coincide con nosotros en pensar (o decir) que la tierra es hueca. Hasta ahí de acuerdo, es hueca, pero las mismas reservas que cada uno en su momento mantuvimos hacia el concepto básico de la oquedad (Aristóteles: "Es de importancia para quien desee alcanzar una certeza en su investigación, el saber dudar a tiempo") esa famosa "mente abierta" nos llevará a filtrar cuidadosamente cualquier otro dato relacionado con el tema, lo "confirme" o lo desmienta; tragárselo sin más solamente porque otro dice que se lo han dicho (canalizado) no es conocimiento sino fé ciega.
Un aplauso por su sobriedad en este tema Sr. Dean.
IN GOOGLENGLISH
Moreover Mr. Dean.
The wiring of any kind, telepathy, apparitions, through Ouija board, automatic writing, including possession of the canal by the entity "superior", are always suspicious by definition.
Not because I say so, experts have repeated for many years, and has also been expressed through their own pipelines, to distrust.
Messages that have been verified then be false not absent, or even irrational bland verbiage campaign everywhere.
One of the control mechanisms that use hidden agendas for millennia. Today there are pipes for all tastes. Part of the rush for the misinformation, and pursues cause differences between us and that we lost.
Nor is it uncommon for the BOUT channeled in good faith, and he is being subjected to use or handling. Others go further, directly motivated fabrications invent their nature much more mundane.
I'm not failing all indiscriminately, of course. There is material of interest. Only alert to the phenomenon in general, a credulity that even without denying that there is good will, it is bordering on naivete.
Legitimate (corruptions resulting from the filter that is channeled conscious interpretation and transcription of the margin) are a minority, and even within them can manifest discrepancies.
And logically so, because usually what kind of entities ultradimensionales would be more likely to interfere with and manipulate humans? Do the benign?
When someone comes to channel information on which was grandly telling abounds with details on how life in the hereafter (for example) the point of creating a whole cosmogony profusely illustrated, usually suspicious.
I always say it's better not to believe in something, for example in the hollow earth, just because you have cash and want before you have contrasting evidence for yourself, to swallow the lies to disclose any hallucinated (or true teacher just like me at this level) only for the same reason: because you have told.
An open mind is not synonymous with childishness. Not because we think the Earth is hollow necessarily have to swallow anything that is written on the subject just because the author agrees with us in thinking (or saying) that the earth is hollow. So far agree, is hollow, but the same reservations as everyone at the time kept to the basic concept of the cavity (Aristotle: "It is important for those who wish to achieve certainty in their research, know doubt in time") that famous "open mind" we will carefully filter any information related to the topic, the "confirm" or disprove; swallow without just because other states that have said (channeling) is not knowledge but blind faith.
A round of applause for his sobriety in this matter Mr. Dean.
De: Dean D <silopanna@...>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 5:01
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communicationsSemisi,
According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
>
> So Dean,
> How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Mriduu Dasi,
> >
> > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > >
> > > a very interesting link:
> > >
> > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > >
> > > love
> > > mrduu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
No Dean, no sé escribir inglés; tampoco hablarlo ni leerlo.
Intervengo muy poco precisamente por esa razón. Y leer los correos de la lista me exige pasar por el traductor google.
Hace años, al poco de recalar en la lista, me autorizó usted a que pudiese escribir en español si lo deseaba. Pero entendí desde el principio que para los demás resultaría incómodo y apenas escribo nada.
Vine aquí porque no encontré ningún sitio en mi idioma que afronte el tema con tanta seriedad y constancia, no sé si actualmente los habrá, no he buscado, me limité a permanecer en ésta haciendo uso del traductor.
Seguiré calladito mientras no aprenda inglés.
Un saludo
________________________________
De: Dean D <[email protected]>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: lunes 8 de agosto de 2011 15:27
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
People,
Allow us to indulge a bit.
Ger, tú no escribes Ingles? Está bien, puedes escribireme in Castellano, pero mejor particularmente porque las personas de la lista no entienden Español.
De donde eres, si me permite preguntar? Soy norteamericano de Washington, la capital, pero vivo en Sao Paulo, Brasil, desde hace 16 años. Aprendí el Castellano cuando era joven, que vivi en Venezueal, Puero Rico y España.
De acuerdo con eso de la canalización. Ese tipo de conversa, sin substancia, puede marginal personas serias del grupo.
Vamos a quedarnos en comunicación, hombre. No tenemos muchos latinos en la lista.
Roberto Landolpho es Brasileño que vive en mi ciudad, São Paulo.
Servidor!
Dean "Dino"
--- In [email protected], Ger <mumumu46@...> wrote:
Más aún Sr\. Dean\.Las canalizaciones, del tipo que sea, telepáticas, apariciones, mediante ouija, escritura automática, incluso posesión del canal por la entidad "superior", son siempre sospechosas por definición.
Y no porque yo lo diga, lo han repetido los expertos desde hace muchos años, y también ha sido expresado a través de las propias canalizaciones, que desconfiemos.
Mensajes que luego han sido contrastados como falsos no brillan por su ausencia; verborrea insulsa o incluso irracional campa por doquier.
Es uno de los mecanismos de control que emplean las agendas ocultas desde hace milenios. Hoy en día hay canalizaciones para todos los gustos. Forma parte de la avalancha para la desinformación, y persigue provocar diferencias entre nosotros y que sigamos perdidos.
Tampoco es infrecuente que el canalizado obre de buena fé, y él mismo esté siendo objeto de utilización o manipulación. Otros llegan más lejos, directamente se inventan sus patrañas por motivaciones de índole bastante más mundana.
No las estoy reprobando todas de forma indiscriminada, por supuesto. Existe material de mucho interés. Solo alerto hacia el fenómeno en general, a una credulidad que aún sin negar que se produce con buena voluntad, resulta rayana a la ingenuidad.
Las legítimas (corrupciones derivadas del filtro que supone la interpretación consciente del canalizado y su transcripción al margen) son minoría, e incluso dentro de ellas pueden manifestarse desfases.
Y es lógico que así sea, pues por lo general ¿qué tipo de entidades ultradimensionales serían más proclives a interferir con los humanos y manipularlos? ¿las benignas?
Cuando aparece alguien canalizando información en la cual grandilocuentemente se abunda con detalles en contarnos como es la vida en el más allá (por ejemplo) al punto de crear toda una cosmogonía profusamente ilustrada, normalmente desconfío.
Yo siempre digo que es mucho mejor no creer en algo, por ejemplo en la tierra hueca, solo porque te lo han contado y quieres antes disponer de elementos de juicio contrastados por ti mismo; a tragarte las patrañas que divulgue cualquier alucinado (o maestro auténtico, igual me da a este nivel) solamente por la misma razón: porque te lo han contado.
Mente abierta no es sinónimo de infantilidad. No porque pensemos que la tierra es hueca hemos necesariamente de tragarnos cualquier cosa que se haya escrito sobre el tema solo porque su autor coincide con nosotros en pensar (o decir) que la tierra es hueca. Hasta ahí de acuerdo, es hueca, pero las mismas reservas que cada uno en su momento mantuvimos hacia el concepto básico de la oquedad (Aristóteles: "Es de importancia para quien desee alcanzar una certeza en su investigación, el saber dudar a tiempo") esa famosa "mente abierta" nos llevará a filtrar cuidadosamente cualquier otro dato relacionado con el tema, lo "confirme" o lo desmienta; tragárselo sin más solamente porque otro dice que se lo han dicho (canalizado) no es conocimiento sino fé ciega.
Un aplauso por su sobriedad en este tema Sr. Dean.
IN GOOGLENGLISH
Moreover Mr. Dean.
The wiring of any kind, telepathy, apparitions, through Ouija board, automatic writing, including possession of the canal by the entity "superior", are always suspicious by definition.
Not because I say so, experts have repeated for many years, and has also been expressed through their own pipelines, to distrust.
Messages that have been verified then be false not absent, or even irrational bland verbiage campaign everywhere.
One of the control mechanisms that use hidden agendas for millennia. Today there are pipes for all tastes. Part of the rush for the misinformation, and pursues cause differences between us and that we lost.
Nor is it uncommon for the BOUT channeled in good faith, and he is being subjected to use or handling. Others go further, directly motivated fabrications invent their nature much more mundane.
I'm not failing all indiscriminately, of course. There is material of interest. Only alert to the phenomenon in general, a credulity that even without denying that there is good will, it is bordering on naivete.
Legitimate (corruptions resulting from the filter that is channeled conscious interpretation and transcription of the margin) are a minority, and even within them can manifest discrepancies.
And logically so, because usually what kind of entities ultradimensionales would be more likely to interfere with and manipulate humans? Do the benign?
When someone comes to channel information on which was grandly telling abounds with details on how life in the hereafter (for example) the point of creating a whole cosmogony profusely illustrated, usually suspicious.
I always say it's better not to believe in something, for example in the hollow earth, just because you have cash and want before you have contrasting evidence for yourself, to swallow the lies to disclose any hallucinated (or true teacher just like me at this level) only for the same reason: because you have told.
An open mind is not synonymous with childishness. Not because we think the Earth is hollow necessarily have to swallow anything that is written on the subject just because the author agrees with us in thinking (or saying) that the earth is hollow. So far agree, is hollow, but the same reservations as everyone at the time kept to the basic concept of the cavity (Aristotle: "It is important for those who wish to achieve certainty in their research, know doubt in time") that famous "open mind" we will carefully filter any information related to the topic, the "confirm" or disprove; swallow without just because other states that have said (channeling) is not knowledge but blind faith.
A round of applause for his sobriety in this matter Mr. Dean.
De: Dean D <silopanna@...>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 5:01
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communicationsSemisi,
According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
>
> So Dean,
> How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Mriduu Dasi,
> >
> > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > >
> > > a very interesting link:
> > >
> > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > >
> > > love
> > > mrduu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hola Ger
Bueno yo se que es un poco dificil para ti,Yo creo que tu puedes continuar escribiendo en Espagnol,Hay algunos de nosotros que saben este idioma.los demas pueden hacer como, tu usar el Google traductor,como tu haces.Por lo que es de mi,bienvenido.>Soy canadiense y aprendi castellano en Ecuador,Mi idioma maternal es el frances,
Buena suerte. Usted puedes estudiar un poco el idioma ingles es muy comodo saber otro idioma.
Inglish traduction.
Well Iknow it is bit dificult for you,But i think that you can continue to write in spanish.Some of us knows of this idioma or can use the google traductor if they want.You are welcome.I am Canadian and i learned spanish when i lived in Ecuador.French is my mother tongue. Good luck..You can studdy the inglish language it is very usefull to know.
________________________________
De: Ger <[email protected]>
Para: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Enviado: Martes, agosto 9, 2011 4:49 A.M.
Asunto: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
No Dean, no sé escribir inglés; tampoco hablarlo ni leerlo.
Intervengo muy poco precisamente por esa razón. Y leer los correos de la lista me exige pasar por el traductor google.
Hace años, al poco de recalar en la lista, me autorizó usted a que pudiese escribir en español si lo deseaba. Pero entendí desde el principio que para los demás resultaría incómodo y apenas escribo nada.
Vine aquí porque no encontré ningún sitio en mi idioma que afronte el tema con tanta seriedad y constancia, no sé si actualmente los habrá, no he buscado, me limité a permanecer en ésta haciendo uso del traductor.
Seguiré calladito mientras no aprenda inglés.
Un saludo
________________________________
De: Dean D <[email protected]>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: lunes 8 de agosto de 2011 15:27
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
People,
Allow us to indulge a bit.
Ger, tú no escribes Ingles? Está bien, puedes escribireme in Castellano, pero mejor particularmente porque las personas de la lista no entienden Español.
De donde eres, si me permite preguntar? Soy norteamericano de Washington, la capital, pero vivo en Sao Paulo, Brasil, desde hace 16 años. Aprendí el Castellano cuando era joven, que vivi en Venezueal, Puero Rico y España.
De acuerdo con eso de la canalización. Ese tipo de conversa, sin substancia, puede marginal personas serias del grupo.
Vamos a quedarnos en comunicación, hombre. No tenemos muchos latinos en la lista.
Roberto Landolpho es Brasileño que vive en mi ciudad, São Paulo.
Servidor!
Dean "Dino"
--- In [email protected], Ger <mumumu46@...> wrote:
Más aún Sr\. Dean\.Las canalizaciones, del tipo que sea, telepáticas, apariciones, mediante ouija, escritura automática, incluso posesión del canal por la entidad "superior", son siempre sospechosas por definición.
Y no porque yo lo diga, lo han repetido los expertos desde hace muchos años, y también ha sido expresado a través de las propias canalizaciones, que desconfiemos.
Mensajes que luego han sido contrastados como falsos no brillan por su ausencia; verborrea insulsa o incluso irracional campa por doquier.
Es uno de los mecanismos de control que emplean las agendas ocultas desde hace milenios. Hoy en día hay canalizaciones para todos los gustos. Forma parte de la avalancha para la desinformación, y persigue provocar diferencias entre nosotros y que sigamos perdidos.
Tampoco es infrecuente que el canalizado obre de buena fé, y él mismo esté siendo objeto de utilización o manipulación. Otros llegan más lejos, directamente se inventan sus patrañas por motivaciones de índole bastante más mundana.
No las estoy reprobando todas de forma indiscriminada, por supuesto. Existe material de mucho interés. Solo alerto hacia el fenómeno en general, a una credulidad que aún sin negar que se produce con buena voluntad, resulta rayana a la ingenuidad.
Las legítimas (corrupciones derivadas del filtro que supone la interpretación consciente del canalizado y su transcripción al margen) son minoría, e incluso dentro de ellas pueden manifestarse desfases.
Y es lógico que así sea, pues por lo general ¿qué tipo de entidades ultradimensionales serían más proclives a interferir con los humanos y manipularlos? ¿las benignas?
Cuando aparece alguien canalizando información en la cual grandilocuentemente se abunda con detalles en contarnos como es la vida en el más allá (por ejemplo) al punto de crear toda una cosmogonía profusamente ilustrada, normalmente desconfío.
Yo siempre digo que es mucho mejor no creer en algo, por ejemplo en la tierra hueca, solo porque te lo han contado y quieres antes disponer de elementos de juicio contrastados por ti mismo; a tragarte las patrañas que divulgue cualquier alucinado (o maestro auténtico, igual me da a este nivel) solamente por la misma razón: porque te lo han contado.
Mente abierta no es sinónimo de infantilidad. No porque pensemos que la tierra es hueca hemos necesariamente de tragarnos cualquier cosa que se haya escrito sobre el tema solo porque su autor coincide con nosotros en pensar (o decir) que la tierra es hueca. Hasta ahí de acuerdo, es hueca, pero las mismas reservas que cada uno en su momento mantuvimos hacia el concepto básico de la oquedad (Aristóteles: "Es de importancia para quien desee alcanzar una certeza en su investigación, el saber dudar a tiempo") esa famosa "mente abierta" nos llevará a filtrar cuidadosamente cualquier otro dato relacionado con el tema, lo "confirme" o lo desmienta; tragárselo sin más solamente porque otro dice que se lo han dicho (canalizado) no es conocimiento sino fé ciega.
Un aplauso por su sobriedad en este tema Sr. Dean.
IN GOOGLENGLISH
Moreover Mr. Dean.
The wiring of any kind, telepathy, apparitions, through Ouija board, automatic writing, including possession of the canal by the entity "superior", are always suspicious by definition.
Not because I say so, experts have repeated for many years, and has also been expressed through their own pipelines, to distrust.
Messages that have been verified then be false not absent, or even irrational bland verbiage campaign everywhere.
One of the control mechanisms that use hidden agendas for millennia. Today there are pipes for all tastes. Part of the rush for the misinformation, and pursues cause differences between us and that we lost.
Nor is it uncommon for the BOUT channeled in good faith, and he is being subjected to use or handling. Others go further, directly motivated fabrications invent their nature much more mundane.
I'm not failing all indiscriminately, of course. There is material of interest. Only alert to the phenomenon in general, a credulity that even without denying that there is good will, it is bordering on naivete.
Legitimate (corruptions resulting from the filter that is channeled conscious interpretation and transcription of the margin) are a minority, and even within them can manifest discrepancies.
And logically so, because usually what kind of entities ultradimensionales would be more likely to interfere with and manipulate humans? Do the benign?
When someone comes to channel information on which was grandly telling abounds with details on how life in the hereafter (for example) the point of creating a whole cosmogony profusely illustrated, usually suspicious.
I always say it's better not to believe in something, for example in the hollow earth, just because you have cash and want before you have contrasting evidence for yourself, to swallow the lies to disclose any hallucinated (or true teacher just like me at this level) only for the same reason: because you have told.
An open mind is not synonymous with childishness. Not because we think the Earth is hollow necessarily have to swallow anything that is written on the subject just because the author agrees with us in thinking (or saying) that the earth is hollow. So far agree, is hollow, but the same reservations as everyone at the time kept to the basic concept of the cavity (Aristotle: "It is important for those who wish to achieve certainty in their research, know doubt in time") that famous "open mind" we will carefully filter any information related to the topic, the "confirm" or disprove; swallow without just because other states that have said (channeling) is not knowledge but blind faith.
A round of applause for his sobriety in this matter Mr. Dean.
De: Dean D <silopanna@...>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 5:01
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communicationsSemisi,
According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
Dean
--- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
>
> So Dean,
> How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Mriduu Dasi,
> >
> > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > >
> > > a very interesting link:
> > >
> > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > >
> > > love
> > > mrduu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Ger,
Pero, donde vives?
Quieres escribirme particularmente?
Dean
--- In [email protected], Ger <mumumu46@...> wrote:
No Dean, no sé escribir inglés; tampoco hablarlo ni leerlo.
Intervengo muy poco precisamente por esa razón. Y leer los correos de la lista me exige pasar por el traductor google.
Hace años, al poco de recalar en la lista, me autorizó usted a que pudiese escribir en español si lo deseaba. Pero entendà desde el principio que para los demás resultarÃa incómodo y apenas escribo nada.
Vine aquà porque no encontré ningún sitio en mi idioma que afronte el tema con tanta seriedad y constancia, no sé si actualmente los habrá, no he buscado, me limité a permanecer en ésta haciendo uso del traductor.
Seguiré calladito mientras no aprenda inglés.
Un saludo
________________________________
De: Dean D <silopanna@...>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: lunes 8 de agosto de 2011 15:27
Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communicationsÂ
People,Allow us to indulge a bit.
Ger, tú no escribes Ingles? Está bien, puedes escribireme in Castellano, pero mejor particularmente porque las personas de la lista no entienden Español.
De donde eres, si me permite preguntar? Soy norteamericano de Washington, la capital, pero vivo en Sao Paulo, Brasil, desde hace 16 años. Aprendà el Castellano cuando era joven, que vivi en Venezueal, Puero Rico y España.
De acuerdo con eso de la canalización. Ese tipo de conversa, sin substancia, puede marginal personas serias del grupo.
Vamos a quedarnos en comunicación, hombre. No tenemos muchos latinos en la lista.
Roberto Landolpho es Brasileño que vive en mi ciudad, São Paulo.
Servidor!
Dean "Dino"
--- In [email protected], Ger <mumumu46@> wrote:
>
>
>
>   Más aún Sr. Dean.
>
> Las canalizaciones, del tipo que sea, telepáticas, apariciones, mediante ouija, escritura automática, incluso posesión del canal por la entidad "superior", son siempre sospechosas por definición.
>
> Y no porque yo lo diga, lo han repetido los expertos desde hace muchos años, y también ha sido expresado a través de las propias canalizaciones, que desconfiemos.
>
> Mensajes que luego han sido contrastados como falsos no brillan por su ausencia; verborrea insulsa o incluso irracional campa por doquier.
>
> Es uno de los mecanismos de control que emplean las agendas ocultas desde hace milenios. Hoy en dÃa hay canalizaciones para todos los gustos. Forma parte de la avalancha para la desinformación, y persigue provocar diferencias entre nosotros y que sigamos perdidos.
>
> Tampoco es infrecuente que el canalizado obre de buena fé, y él mismo esté siendo objeto de utilización o manipulación. Otros llegan más lejos, directamente se inventan sus patrañas por motivaciones de Ãndole bastante más mundana.
>
> No las estoy reprobando todas de forma indiscriminada, por supuesto. Existe material de mucho interés. Solo alerto hacia el fenómeno en general, a una credulidad que aún sin negar que se produce con buena voluntad, resulta rayana a la ingenuidad.
>
> Las legÃtimas (corrupciones derivadas del filtro que supone la interpretación consciente del canalizado y su transcripción al margen) son minorÃa, e incluso dentro de ellas pueden manifestarse desfases.
>
> Y es lógico que asà sea, pues por lo general ¿qué tipo de entidades ultradimensionales serÃan más proclives a interferir con los humanos y manipularlos? ¿las benignas?
>
> Cuando aparece alguien canalizando información en la cual grandilocuentemente se abunda con detalles en contarnos como es la vida en el más allá (por ejemplo) al punto de crear toda una cosmogonÃa profusamente ilustrada, normalmente desconfÃo.
>
> Yo siempre digo que es mucho mejor no creer en algo, por ejemplo en la tierra hueca, solo porque te lo han contado y quieres antes disponer de elementos de juicio contrastados por ti mismo; a tragarte las patrañas que divulgue cualquier alucinado (o maestro auténtico, igual me da a este nivel) solamente por la misma razón: porque te lo han contado.
>
> Mente abierta no es sinónimo de infantilidad. No porque pensemos que la tierra es hueca hemos necesariamente de tragarnos cualquier cosa que se haya escrito sobre el tema solo porque su autor coincide con nosotros en pensar (o decir) que la tierra es hueca. Hasta ahà de acuerdo, es hueca, pero las mismas reservas que cada uno en su momento mantuvimos hacia el concepto básico de la oquedad (Aristóteles: "Es de importancia para quien desee alcanzar una certeza en su investigación, el saber dudar a tiempo") esa famosa "mente abierta" nos llevará a filtrar cuidadosamente cualquier otro dato relacionado con el tema, lo "confirme" o lo desmienta; tragárselo sin más solamente porque otro dice que se lo han dicho (canalizado) no es conocimiento sino fé ciega.
>
> Un aplauso por su sobriedad en este tema Sr. Dean.
>
>
> IN GOOGLENGLISH
>
> Moreover Mr. Dean.
>
> The wiring of any kind, telepathy, apparitions, through Ouija board, automatic writing, including possession of the canal by the entity "superior", are always suspicious by definition.
>
> Not because I say so, experts have repeated for many years, and has also been expressed through their own pipelines, to distrust.
>
> Messages that have been verified then be false not absent, or even irrational bland verbiage campaign everywhere.
>
> One of the control mechanisms that use hidden agendas for millennia. Today there are pipes for all tastes. Part of the rush for the misinformation, and pursues cause differences between us and that we lost.
>
> Nor is it uncommon for the BOUT channeled in good faith, and he is being subjected to use or handling. Others go further, directly motivated fabrications invent their nature much more mundane.
>
> I'm not failing all indiscriminately, of course. There is material of interest. Only alert to the phenomenon in general, a credulity that even without denying that there is good will, it is bordering on naivete.
>
> Legitimate (corruptions resulting from the filter that is channeled conscious interpretation and transcription of the margin) are a minority, and even within them can manifest discrepancies.
>
> And logically so, because usually what kind of entities ultradimensionales would be more likely to interfere with and manipulate humans? Do the benign?
>
> When someone comes to channel information on which was grandly telling abounds with details on how life in the hereafter (for example) the point of creating a whole cosmogony profusely illustrated, usually suspicious.
>
> I always say it's better not to believe in something, for example in the hollow earth, just because you have cash and want before you have contrasting evidence for yourself, to swallow the lies to disclose any hallucinated (or true teacher just like me at this level) only for the same reason: because you have told.
>
> An open mind is not synonymous with childishness. Not because we think the Earth is hollow necessarily have to swallow anything that is written on the subject just because the author agrees with us in thinking (or saying) that the earth is hollow. So far agree, is hollow, but the same reservations as everyone at the time kept to the basic concept of the cavity (Aristotle: "It is important for those who wish to achieve certainty in their research, know doubt in time") that famous "open mind" we will carefully filter any information related to the topic, the "confirm" or disprove; swallow without just because other states that have said (channeling) is not knowledge but blind faith.
>
> A round of applause for his sobriety in this matter Mr. Dean.
>
> De: Dean D <silopanna@>
> Para: [email protected]
> Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 5:01
> Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
>
> Semisi,
>
> According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
>
> Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
>
> It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
>
> I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
>
> Dean
>
> --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> >
> > So Dean,
> > How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mriduu Dasi,
> > >
> > > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
> > > >
> > > > a very interesting link:
> > > >
> > > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
> > > >
> > > > love
> > > > mrduu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Why cant the words be in English?
cv
--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@...> wrote:
Ger,
Pero, donde vives?
Quieres escribirme particularmente?
Dean
silopanna@...
--- In [email protected], Ger <mumumu46@> wrote:
>
> No Dean, no sé escribir inglés; tampoco hablarlo ni leerlo.
>
>
> Intervengo muy poco precisamente por esa razón. Y leer los correos de la lista me exige pasar por el traductor google.
>
>
> Hace años, al poco de recalar en la lista, me autorizó usted a que pudiese escribir en español si lo deseaba. Pero entendà desde el principio que para los demás resultarÃa incómodo y apenas escribo nada.
>
>
> Vine aquà porque no encontré ningún sitio en mi idioma que afronte el tema con tanta seriedad y constancia, no sé si actualmente los habrá, no he buscado, me limité a permanecer en ésta haciendo uso del traductor.
>
>
> Seguiré calladito mientras no aprenda inglés.
>
>
> Un saludo
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> De: Dean D <silopanna@>
> Para: [email protected]
> Enviado: lunes 8 de agosto de 2011 15:27
> Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
>
>
> Â
> People,
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> Allow us to indulge a bit.
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> Ger, tú no escribes Ingles? Está bien, puedes escribireme in Castellano, pero mejor particularmente porque las personas de la lista no entienden Español.
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> De donde eres, si me permite preguntar? Soy norteamericano de Washington, la capital, pero vivo en Sao Paulo, Brasil, desde hace 16 años. Aprendà el Castellano cuando era joven, que vivi en Venezueal, Puero Rico y España.
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> De acuerdo con eso de la canalización. Ese tipo de conversa, sin substancia, puede marginal personas serias del grupo.
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> Vamos a quedarnos en comunicación, hombre. No tenemos muchos latinos en la lista.
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> Roberto Landolpho es Brasileño que vive en mi ciudad, São Paulo.
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> Servidor!
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> Dean "Dino"
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> --- In [email protected], Ger <mumumu46@> wrote:
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> >   Más aún Sr. Dean.
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> > Las canalizaciones, del tipo que sea, telepáticas, apariciones, mediante ouija, escritura automática, incluso posesión del canal por la entidad "superior", son siempre sospechosas por definición.
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> > Y no porque yo lo diga, lo han repetido los expertos desde hace muchos años, y también ha sido expresado a través de las propias canalizaciones, que desconfiemos.
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> > Mensajes que luego han sido contrastados como falsos no brillan por su ausencia; verborrea insulsa o incluso irracional campa por doquier.
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> > Es uno de los mecanismos de control que emplean las agendas ocultas desde hace milenios. Hoy en dÃa hay canalizaciones para todos los gustos. Forma parte de la avalancha para la desinformación, y persigue provocar diferencias entre nosotros y que sigamos perdidos.
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> > Tampoco es infrecuente que el canalizado obre de buena fé, y él mismo esté siendo objeto de utilización o manipulación. Otros llegan más lejos, directamente se inventan sus patrañas por motivaciones de Ãndole bastante más mundana.
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> > No las estoy reprobando todas de forma indiscriminada, por supuesto. Existe material de mucho interés. Solo alerto hacia el fenómeno en general, a una credulidad que aún sin negar que se produce con buena voluntad, resulta rayana a la ingenuidad.
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> > Las legÃtimas (corrupciones derivadas del filtro que supone la interpretación consciente del canalizado y su transcripción al margen) son minorÃa, e incluso dentro de ellas pueden manifestarse desfases.
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> > Y es lógico que asà sea, pues por lo general ¿qué tipo de entidades ultradimensionales serÃan más proclives a interferir con los humanos y manipularlos? ¿las benignas?
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> > Cuando aparece alguien canalizando información en la cual grandilocuentemente se abunda con detalles en contarnos como es la vida en el más allá (por ejemplo) al punto de crear toda una cosmogonÃa profusamente ilustrada, normalmente desconfÃo.
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> > Yo siempre digo que es mucho mejor no creer en algo, por ejemplo en la tierra hueca, solo porque te lo han contado y quieres antes disponer de elementos de juicio contrastados por ti mismo; a tragarte las patrañas que divulgue cualquier alucinado (o maestro auténtico, igual me da a este nivel) solamente por la misma razón: porque te lo han contado.
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> > Mente abierta no es sinónimo de infantilidad. No porque pensemos que la tierra es hueca hemos necesariamente de tragarnos cualquier cosa que se haya escrito sobre el tema solo porque su autor coincide con nosotros en pensar (o decir) que la tierra es hueca. Hasta ahà de acuerdo, es hueca, pero las mismas reservas que cada uno en su momento mantuvimos hacia el concepto básico de la oquedad (Aristóteles: "Es de importancia para quien desee alcanzar una certeza en su investigación, el saber dudar a tiempo") esa famosa "mente abierta" nos llevará a filtrar cuidadosamente cualquier otro dato relacionado con el tema, lo "confirme" o lo desmienta; tragárselo sin más solamente porque otro dice que se lo han dicho (canalizado) no es conocimiento sino fé ciega.
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> > Un aplauso por su sobriedad en este tema Sr. Dean.
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> > IN GOOGLENGLISH
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> > Moreover Mr. Dean.
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> > The wiring of any kind, telepathy, apparitions, through Ouija board, automatic writing, including possession of the canal by the entity "superior", are always suspicious by definition.
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> > Not because I say so, experts have repeated for many years, and has also been expressed through their own pipelines, to distrust.
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> > Messages that have been verified then be false not absent, or even irrational bland verbiage campaign everywhere.
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> > One of the control mechanisms that use hidden agendas for millennia. Today there are pipes for all tastes. Part of the rush for the misinformation, and pursues cause differences between us and that we lost.
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> > Nor is it uncommon for the BOUT channeled in good faith, and he is being subjected to use or handling. Others go further, directly motivated fabrications invent their nature much more mundane.
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> > I'm not failing all indiscriminately, of course. There is material of interest. Only alert to the phenomenon in general, a credulity that even without denying that there is good will, it is bordering on naivete.
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> > Legitimate (corruptions resulting from the filter that is channeled conscious interpretation and transcription of the margin) are a minority, and even within them can manifest discrepancies.
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> > And logically so, because usually what kind of entities ultradimensionales would be more likely to interfere with and manipulate humans? Do the benign?
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> > When someone comes to channel information on which was grandly telling abounds with details on how life in the hereafter (for example) the point of creating a whole cosmogony profusely illustrated, usually suspicious.
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> > I always say it's better not to believe in something, for example in the hollow earth, just because you have cash and want before you have contrasting evidence for yourself, to swallow the lies to disclose any hallucinated (or true teacher just like me at this level) only for the same reason: because you have told.
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> > An open mind is not synonymous with childishness. Not because we think the Earth is hollow necessarily have to swallow anything that is written on the subject just because the author agrees with us in thinking (or saying) that the earth is hollow. So far agree, is hollow, but the same reservations as everyone at the time kept to the basic concept of the cavity (Aristotle: "It is important for those who wish to achieve certainty in their research, know doubt in time") that famous "open mind" we will carefully filter any information related to the topic, the "confirm" or disprove; swallow without just because other states that have said (channeling) is not knowledge but blind faith.
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> > A round of applause for his sobriety in this matter Mr. Dean.
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> > De: Dean D <silopanna@>
> > Para: [email protected]
> > Enviado: sábado 30 de julio de 2011 5:01
> > Asunto: [allplanets-hollow] Re: telepathic communications
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> > Semisi,
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> > According to her site, she gets "transmissions" from the inner earth? And this has been going on for 25 years now? Why her? What has she achieved in terms of world welfare through the transmissions?
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> > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all we really have to go on is her word.
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> > It's not like the inner earthers are so isolated from us that they live in a world of mysticism. What has been reported by a precious few, such as Olaf Jansen, is a hollow cavity containing a physical world with physical beings in it; this is what we have been able to deduce from the Arctic body of evidence, too. And near the openings, UFO activity has been reported for the better part of two centuries. They could communicate with us all they want to.
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> > I don't think that I need to offer much reason to discount her evidence, she needs to offer stronger support for her claims.
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> > Dean
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> > --- In [email protected], "Maka" <semisibond@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So Dean,
> > > How do you know she is fibbing? Can you explain your point of view? Thanks, Semisi
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
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> > > > Mriduu Dasi,
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> > > > That lady Diane either needs to be medicated or sent to jail for fibbing, IMHO.
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> > > > Dean
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> > > > --- In [email protected], Mrduu Dasi <mrduu108@> wrote:
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> > > > > . not sure if anyone is into telepathic commications about the inner earth
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> > > > > a very interesting link:
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> > > > > diannerobbins dot com slash index dot htm
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> > > > > love
> > > > > mrduu
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> > > > > p://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htmhttp://www.diannerobbins.com/index.htm_.,__
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