"Smithsoniangate http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=45798&group=webcast Conspiracy."
Hazel
From Ring Around the Opening: http://skywebsite.com/hollow/arctic/id6.html
" In the above article Seven Days North of Tibet, various types of evidence were presented in favor of the hypothesis that Dr. Fridtjof Nansen and the crew of the ship Fram grazed a ot near the Northern polar opening, to the hollow portion of the Earth, during their drift across the frozen Artic ice packs. Our current article will attempt to expand upon that theme and establish a general perimeter around the polar opening. The same map from Seven Days North of Tibet is presented.
We can begin our ring around the opening at the North Pole. It suffices to say that the pole has been visited umpteen times and that no polar orifice is apparent right at that point. Some polar anomalies, however, such as warming, warm-blooded animals, volcanic ash across the landscape to the horizon, and Northward migrating birds, have been documented."
Posted by DD
I'm gone till Sunday night.
Dharma/Dean, DD
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Suppressed
Archaeology
"Smithsoniangate http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=45798&group=webcast
Conspiracy."
Hazel
Hazel (from Dick Fojut)....
About the URL you gave
us. We have an elderly (older than us) Anthropologist friend (and no
"right winger") who angrily informed us that the Smithsonian had
been taken over by a bunch of "left wing" radicals and
incompetents who have literally thrown out some of the best former
exhibits, substituting their own screwed up "social-engineering"
ideas. The CIA (and NWO) appear to control and finance various
seemingly opposed groups, so he may be right.
- Dick
"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the 'federal' government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the rail yards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is 'technocracy', not democracy, and it is a form of feudalism.
It [this 'technocracy'] has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are god-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States.(Phil Schneider)
The tall blond humanoids from Procyon and the short gray humanoids from Rigel have been enemies for thousands of years.
The tall Blonds from Procyon have a benign attitude toward humanity, except for their strong disapproval of our inhumanity to each other. This strong disapproval is further intensified by our government having made a secret alliance with their hereditary enemies, in order to obtain even more destructive weapons systems than those already in existence. Our 'government' is not interested in negotiating with the Procyonians, as they would not provide us with weapon systems...
Their motivation for breeding with humans is to tune-up the frequency of our species, in order to help us to help ourselves. Their concern is for the well-being of all forms of life, not just humanity. The entire biosphere will benefit if we fulfill our positive potential, instead of self-destructing our planet's biosphere in the process.
Those supernatural beings who control the draconian collective ARE the sources of the evils -- the Greys and Reptiloids are merely the 'tools'. This is true in most cases except in the context that many of the rebel beings who you call 'fallen angels' have been incarnating through the soulless reptilian races since very ancient times.
Until that time when we can all meet together as one, in TRUE freedom and peace, may the Almighty SOURCE of all LIFE protect and bless you all!
Hazel
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
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Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:27 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Bye for now!
I'm gone till Sunday night.
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Jupiter's particles escape route:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2001/agujup0531.html
posted by DD
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Jupiter's particles'
route
Jupiter's particles
escape route:
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2001/agujup0531.html
posted by
DD
Dean... My comment after reading
the report on the above URL about Jupiter.
If it IS the DAWN quadrant
(facing the "rising" sun) from which much greater emissions
extend (than from the dusk quadrant), I think this may be another
possible verification of Churchward's cosmology, derived from his
understanding of sciences he said were well known over 70,000 years
ago to earth's most ancient scientists. Why?
Because (as he described) the
SURFACE of Jupter facing AWAY from the Sun, functioning LIKE each
of our solar system's planets that revolve on axis, must be
re-magnetized (or "super-magnetized) fully during Jupiter's
"night."
By "morning," when the fully
re-magnetized DAWN quadrant of Jupiter's surface begins to be
exposed to the Sun's great magnetic PULLING Forces carried by her
Rays (the so-called "solar wind"), great volumes of all of
Jupiter's Electromagnetic Forces (electrons, ions, whatever) that
collected during the "night" are attracted OUT OF THE DAWN
surface, flooding into Jupiter's extended "atmosphere."
JUPITER (or
Earth) SUN
From DAWN to long before DUSK,
the material elements (and subtler ether elements) composing
Jupiter's elemental "atmosphere" have become
saturated with Jupiter's electromagnetic forces to the limit
of their "holding" capacity. So much force can he "held"
in suspension by so many elements. No more. The Sun's magnetic rays
can then attract forth no more electromagnetic forces from Jupiter's
surface because Jupiter's "daytime" atmosphere is filled to
capacity. At that time, the Sun's magnetic pulling rays
become ineffective... and totally ineffective as the DUSK quadrant
disappears from the Sun's "sight" becoming the EVENING and NIGHT
quadrants.
As with earth, Churchward -
right or wrong - contended the Sun's magnetic forces are NEUTRAL
to its satellites' material elements. The Sun's magnetic forces
(electromagnetic forces) have power over and affinity for only
electromagnetic forces possessed and generated by each
satellite.
But, if Churchward was also correct,
the Sun will still have a GREATER affinity for the electromagnetic
forces super-magnetizing Jupiter's north pole AFTER they have
built up in its north polar surface during the period the pole
"oscillates" away from the Sun. (Tips AWAY from the Sun's direct
"view" during so-called "winter.")
The volume of forces generated within
rotating Jupiter are so great in the super-magnetized polar area they
electrify atmospheric particles making some visible. Even though the
polar surface is out of direct "sight," the Sun's magnetic rays
have effect on the polar forces in the visible high atmosphere.
But once the the pole tips back into
direct view of the Sun's forces. Jupiter's own magnet loses any
remaining grip on its polar forces, to the Sun's superior pull.
The auroral effect diminishes as the forces gradually equalize
into other less charged areas of Jupiter's atmosphere. Seems to
be some indication of that phenomena in the URL report too.
···
Dean, have been "boning
up" up on "Plasma Physics" at various websites, to the best of
my limited comprehension. Will get back to you soon about it.
- Dick Fojut
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Jupiter's particles' route
Dick, Isn't Jupiter just too BIG to be composed of solid rock with a molten core? The weight and density would make it impossible to 'hang' in the sky? Pardon the lack of scientific jargon. Hazel.
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Dick Fojut
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Jupiter's particles' route
Jupiter's particles escape route:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2001/agujup0531.html
posted by DD
Dean... My comment after reading the report on the above URL about Jupiter.
If it IS the DAWN quadrant (facing the "rising" sun) from which much greater emissions extend (than from the dusk quadrant), I think this may be another possible verification of Churchward's cosmology, derived from his understanding of sciences he said were well known over 70,000 years ago to earth's most ancient scientists. Why?
Because (as he described) ** the SURFACE of Jupter facing AWAY from the Sun** , functioning LIKE each of our solar system's planets that revolve on axis, ** must be re-magnetized (or "super-magnetized) fully during Jupiter's "night."**
By "morning," when the fully re-magnetized DAWN quadrant of Jupiter's surface begins to be exposed to the Sun's great magnetic PULLING Forces carried by her Rays (the so-called "solar wind"), great volumes of all of Jupiter's Electromagnetic Forces (electrons, ions, whatever) that collected during the "night" are attracted OUT OF THE DAWN surface, flooding into Jupiter's extended "atmosphere."
JUPITER (or Earth) SUN
From DAWN to long before DUSK , the material elements (and subtler ether elements) composing Jupiter's elemental "atmosphere" have become saturated with Jupiter's electromagnetic forces to the limit of their "holding" capacity. So much force can he "held" in suspension by so many elements. No more. The Sun's magnetic rays can then attract forth no more electromagnetic forces from Jupiter's surface ** because Jupiter's "daytime" atmosphere is filled to capacity.** At that time, the Sun's magnetic pulling rays become ineffective... and totally ineffective as the DUSK quadrant disappears from the Sun's "sight" becoming the EVENING and NIGHT quadrants.
As with earth, Churchward - right or wrong - ** contended the Sun's magnetic forces are NEUTRAL to its satellites' material elements** . The Sun's magnetic forces (electromagnetic forces) have power over and affinity for only electromagnetic forces possessed and generated by each satellite.
But, if Churchward was also correct, ** the Sun will still have a GREATER affinity for the electromagnetic forces super-magnetizing Jupiter's north pole** AFTER they have built up in its north polar surface during the period the pole "oscillates" away from the Sun. (Tips AWAY from the Sun's direct "view" during so-called "winter.")
The volume of forces generated within rotating Jupiter are so great in the super-magnetized polar area they electrify atmospheric particles making some visible. Even though the polar surface is out of direct "sight," the Sun's magnetic rays have effect on the polar forces in the visible high atmosphere.
But once the the pole tips back into direct view of the Sun's forces. Jupiter's own magnet loses any remaining grip on its polar forces, to the Sun's superior pull. The auroral effect diminishes as the forces gradually ** equalize into other less charged areas of Jupiter's atmosphere** . Seems to be some indication of that phenomena in the URL report too.
Dean, have been "boning up" up on "Plasma Physics" at various websites, to the best of my limited comprehension. Will get back to you soon about it.
- Dick Fojut
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Jupiter's particles'
route
Dick, Isn't Jupiter just too BIGto be composed of solid rock with a molten core? The weight and
density would make it impossible to 'hang' in the sky? Pardon the
lack of scientific jargon. Hazel.
Hazel.... You (and I) don't need
to use scientific jargon. We're not trying to impress professors. We
don't give a damn. Churchward did talk about the DENSITY of a body's
crust... but so-called MASS, which has little relevance for hollow
bodies with outer shells seemed to have no importance to him. How
can you calculate MASS for a hollow body? DENSITY of its
crust, perhaps, but MASS measuring its outside diameter? What's the
MASS of a beach ball? Or A Chicken egg? Get my point?
Having a (relatively) hard, cool crust
and a molten center LAYER (under the hard crust), not a
molten core, Jupiter is not a "solid rock." Like
earth, other rotating planets and possibly all stars rotating on
axes, Jupiter probably has a giant HOLLOW. (maybe even some UFO's.
Just kidding.)
But judging by the great distance of
Jupiter's orbit out from the Sun, it indicates Jupiter's crust is
probably relatively FAR LESS DENSE (for its huge apparent diameter)
compared to the density of earth's crust for earth's size.
No planet in our solar system,
including Jupiter, "hangs" in the sky. Depending on its magnetic
capacity (the volumes of electromagnetic forces Jupiter generates and
stores within its less dense crust), our Sun's centrifugal force
(with repellant forces), and magnetic pulling forces meshing with
Jupiter's forces, cancel each other out at the exact distance
where Jupiter's body is held in its precise orbit. The orbit is
Jupiter's NEUTRAL ZONE where the Sun's push and pull is
equalized.
But **"WEIGHT?" ** Here's a
piece from Churchward's chapter on THE SUN. This can also
apply to so-called "gas giants" (not really), like
Jupiter...
···
**"THE SUN'S WEIGHT**. Scientists have
computed and published the weight of the sun, saying, "The weight
of the sun is 730 times the weight of the earth and all the planets
combined." How any scientist can associate weight with any
celestial body, I cannot comprehend, because in space a body has
no weight. In space the largest celestial body has not the weight of
a thistledown.
**WEIGHT**,
as it is known, is the measurement of the draw
or pull of a cold magnetic force on elements. The force emanates from
the body itself. This cold magnetic force attracts and draws the
elements of the body toward the magnet from which the force emanates.
The power of this attraction represents
weight.."
Here's some additional interesting
points from the same chapter from Churchward. This also can refer to
Jupiter....
"THE SUN'S
TEMPERATURE. Scientific works that are orthodox tell us that the
sun is "an exceedingly hot, super-heated body"
Herschel (the great scientist) did not agree
with the orthodox. He wrote: "The sun may be a cool body." From
the various works written about the sun which I have studied, the
impression is left that scientists have based their opinions that the
sun's body has a very high temperature from readings of the
spectrum and on the erroneous belief that:
"The sun disperses her heat throughout the
solar system."
and
"The earth's heat comes directly from
the sun."
They have made no
study to determine what heat is, nor its manner of working. Their
writings must therefore be what they are, mere guesses, and very
erroneous at that. I have heretofore devoted a section to heat,
showing what it is, whence it emanates and how it works. We meet
phenomena at every step showing most conclusively that our heat
does not come from the sun but is an earthly force.
Another phenomenon which confirms the fact
that we do not derive our heat directly from the sun, and that the
sun does not distribute its heat throughout the solar system, as is
being taught today in our educational establishments, is shown during
the earth's elliptical orbit.
I will take the
northern hemisphere as an example. Twice during the year the sun is
millions of miles nearer the earth than at other times. During the
fall and spring the sun is millions of miles nearer the earth than in
the summer. If the sun is the source of heat, when the earth is
millions of miles nearer the source we ought to experience a higher
temperature during the spring and fall, but do we? We do not! We
experience a middle temperature, clearly proving that our heat does
not come directly from the sun, thus bearing out the writings
that have been handed down to us from the first great
civilization.
The deduction that the
sun is an exceedingly hot super heated body has been determined by
the spectroscope. This in itself is the greatest absurdity because
the spectroscope does not register temperatures. It cannot,
because it does not register the rays which carry the heat force.
This I personally have proved in a court of law as an expert witness.
Our scientists in their writings about the sun have totally ignored
the natural workings of the forces. Nature's tools and means have
been cast to the winds."
In other sections
Churchward discusses the mistake astronomers make assuming the
temperatures of distant bodies by the COLOR and luminosity they see
through their telescopes. I won't go into it here except to note
that the SAME COLOR Ray from molten steel over 2500 degrees is
duplicated with the SAME Ray coming from a FIREFLY at less than
atmospheric temperature.. Because of similar contradictions he
pointed out, Churchward suggested that many of the calculations
orthodox astronomers have made about the temperatures of distant
bodies (and red shift distances) may need
revision.
How's that for
slipping around an answer about Jupiter?
-
Dick
----- Original Message -----
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Fojut
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Jupiter's
particles' routeJupiter's particles
escape route:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/releases/2001/agujup0531.html
posted by DD
Dean... My comment after
reading the report on the above URL about Jupiter.
If it IS the DAWN
quadrant (facing the "rising" sun) from which much
greater emissions extend (than from the dusk quadrant), I think this
may be another possible verification of Churchward's cosmology,
derived from his understanding of sciences he said were well known
over 70,000 years ago to earth's most ancient scientists.
Why?Because (as he described)
the SURFACE of Jupter facing AWAY from the Sun, functioning
LIKE each of our solar system's planets that revolve on axis, must
be re-magnetized (or "super-magnetized) fully during Jupiter's
"night."By "morning," when the
fully re-magnetized DAWN quadrant of Jupiter's surface begins
to be exposed to the Sun's great magnetic PULLING Forces carried by
her Rays (the so-called "solar wind"), great volumes of all
of Jupiter's Electromagnetic Forces (electrons, ions, whatever) that
collected during the "night" are attracted OUT OF THE DAWN
surface, flooding into Jupiter's extended
"atmosphere."
JUPITER (or
Earth) SUN
From DAWN to long before
DUSK, the material elements (and subtler ether elements)
composing Jupiter's elemental "atmosphere" have
become saturated with Jupiter's electromagnetic forces to the
limit of their "holding" capacity. So much force can he
"held" in suspension by so many elements. No more. The
Sun's magnetic rays can then attract forth no more electromagnetic
forces from Jupiter's surface because Jupiter's
"daytime" atmosphere is filled to capacity. At
that time, the Sun's magnetic pulling rays become ineffective... and
totally ineffective as the DUSK quadrant disappears from the Sun's
"sight" becoming the EVENING and NIGHT
quadrants.
As with earth, Churchward
- right or wrong - contended the Sun's magnetic forces are NEUTRAL
to its satellites' material elements. The Sun's magnetic forces
(electromagnetic forces) have power over and affinity for only
electromagnetic forces possessed and generated by each
satellite.But, if Churchward was also
correct, the Sun will still have a GREATER affinity for the
electromagnetic forces super-magnetizing Jupiter's north pole
AFTER they have built up in its north polar surface during the period
the pole "oscillates" away from the Sun. (Tips AWAY from
the Sun's direct "view" during so-called
"winter.")
The volume of forces generated
within rotating Jupiter are so great in the super-magnetized polar
area they electrify atmospheric particles making some visible. Even
though the polar surface is out of direct "sight," the
Sun's magnetic rays have effect on the polar forces in the visible
high atmosphere.
But once the the pole tips back
into direct view of the Sun's forces. Jupiter's own magnet loses any
remaining grip on its polar forces, to the Sun's superior pull.
The auroral effect diminishes as the forces gradually equalize
into other less charged areas of Jupiter's atmosphere. Seems to
be some indication of that phenomena in the URL report
too.Dean, have been
"boning up" up on "Plasma Physics" at various
websites, to the best of my limited comprehension. Will get back to
you soon about it.
- Dick Fojut
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Jupiter's particles' route
Dick wrote;
···
Hazel.... You (and I) don't need to use scientific jargon. We're not trying to impress professors. We don't give a damn.
Actually, I was trying to impress Dean....
Churchward did talk about the DENSITY of a body's crust... but so-called MASS, which has little relevance for hollow bodies with outer shells seemed to have no importance to him. ** How can you calculate MASS for a hollow body?** ** DENSITY of its crust, perhaps, but MASS measuring its outside diameter? What's the MASS of a beach ball? Or A Chicken egg? Get my point?**
Yes, a hollow has no measurable mass.
Having a (relatively) hard, cool crust and a molten center LAYER
(under the hard crust), not a molten core , Jupiter is not a "solid rock." Like earth, other rotating planets and possibly all stars rotating on axes, Jupiter probably has a giant HOLLOW. (maybe even some UFO's. Just kidding.)
There's probably a civilization millenia in advance of us occupying it's interior (Jovians) and UFO's, of course.
** But judging by the great distance of Jupiter's orbit out from the Sun, it indicates Jupiter's crust is probably relatively FAR LESS DENSE (for its huge apparent diameter) compared to the density of earth's crust for earth's size**.
No planet in our solar system, including Jupiter, "hangs" in the sky. Depending on its magnetic capacity (the volumes of electromagnetic forces Jupiter generates and stores within its less dense crust), our Sun's centrifugal force (with repellant forces), and magnetic pulling forces meshing with Jupiter's forces, cancel each other out at the exact distance where Jupiter's body is held in its precise orbit. The orbit is Jupiter's NEUTRAL ZONE where the Sun's push and pull is equalized.
How's that for slipping around an answer about Jupiter?
I'd say, most unscientifically, that's it in a nutshell! You and old Churchward know your particles.
Hazel