Sitchin's Theory

Hi, Dean and all!

Sorry I haven't been able to post for a while but my PC finally threw in the towel and I had to get another one fixed up! Whew! What a backlog of mail ! You guys have certainly covered a lot of ground! BTW, Dean, I must congratulate you on your ever-burgeoning and updated website(s)! Great work, cobber!

Anyhow, I've been reading away furiously, and I notice old Zecheria Sitchin has cropped up among the topics, so I can't resist rising to the bait! I have all of his books - which I foolishly splurged out on, in a mad moment of mental abberation some years back. So, having subjected his endless scribings to a heavy scrutiny, I feel that I'm well qualified to put in my ten cents' worth on the subject. I believe that Sitchin has a deep fixation with his Annunaki "gods" and their giant mystery planet, Niburu. And, from what I've read of his work, I personally believe it all to be a load of pure self-delusionary BS. (Though his books must have made him quite a bundle - lucky stiff!)

Quite apart from trying to create another race of superior godlike beings by madly blending together the nephelim "fallen angels" of Jehovah and the ancient Sumerian/Babylonian hierarchy, his notion of them living thousands of years upon a gigantic planet with an enormously elongated, eliptical orbit, 10 times that of Pluto, which takes 3,600 years to complete, is, in hindsight, completely unscientific.

His Nibiru (or Marduk) doesn't even have the Sun for warmth or light over the vast bulk of its enormous orbit through the inky darkness of outer space. So I'd hate to be one of those poor Annunaki "gods" since they would have to live for 90 per cent of their almost endless lives in as gloomy a place as God's fallen rebel angels (their fathers or themselves?) - whom the Bible says are confined in chains in the pitch-dark pit of Tartaros, a special underground prison - under the earth. (Hopefully, one prays NOT inside the Hollow Earth!)

Quite apart from that however, one wonders how the Sun can still maintain its gravitational grip on such a far-ranging planet. Added to this is the notion that we are led to believe the Annunaki were flesh and blood "gods" who had lifespans of yea thousands of years. So if, as Sitchin implies, the Annunaki were the NEFILIM, the giant ogre-like offspring of the original fallen angels (who were the NEPHELIM) and their human wives - they must also have been the antediluvian giants of Genesis. But apart from this confusion between NeFILim and NePHELim - this presents a major problem. The alleged twelfth planet, Nibiru (or Marduk), is allegedly around ten times the size of Tiamat (the Earth) and thus it must have a gravitational force at least ten or more times that of the Earth. According to astrophysical law, any life-forms upon Nibiru would, of necessity, have to be very small, very squat, and very solid in size and build, to withstand such an enormous pull (or is that "push"?) of gravity. So the giant Annunaki would have been flattened out into rather big, messy-looking pancakes the second they set foot on Nibiru!

I'd hate to be in Sitchin's shoes when he fronts up before his Maker (unless he already has) to explain why he, as a Hebrew, has elected to tangle together so many different religious entities in his rather cunningly-woven hypothesis, and in particular, suggesting that the fallen angel nephelim (or their giant NEFILIM offspring), assumed the role of "Elohim" and created Mankind in THEIR own image instead of God's! BTW, according to James Strong, the Greek and Hebrew scholar who wrote that magnificent Bible concordance - the rebellious angels were the NEPHELIM, and their half-human offspring were the NEPHILIM. NEPHEL means "Fallen", whilst NEPHIL means "Giant, Tyrant or Bully", so there we go!

As to Sitchin's books. They're very ingeniously written and worthy of Steven Speilberg's attention, but IMHO they're still religio-scientific crap! I should know. I'm writing some of my own, even as we speak!

Regards to all, and a big "Hello" to Hazel - (liked your book!)

Marsflash (aka Gerry)

This is just amazing. If true, and it is, it just goes to show that we cannot have faith in our concepts of history on this planet. We need to divorce ourselves from false and incomplete notions in order to let new ones in.

DD

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010514/lf/cuba_treasure_dc_1.html

LOST CITY OFF WESTERN CUBA?

Most intriguingly, researchers using sonar equipment have discovered, at a depth of about 2,200 feet, a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be urban development partly covered by sand. From above, the shapes resemble pyramids, roads and buildings.

Hello Gerry, You sound like you're from 'Down-Under' (not hell.) Glad you liked my book, good luck with your own, 'religio-scientific crap!'

I'm reading Paradise Lost by Milton, because before I can claim to have found it, I need to know why it was lost.

Lucifer the light bringer and favoured Archangel, was jealous of God and didn't believe He was Omnipotent. He raised a war in Heaven against God, he and his band of rebel angels were vanquished and cast into a pit,

"As far removed from God and light of Heaven,

As far from the centre thrice to the utmost pole,

Oh, how unlike the place from whence they fell."

He decided the best he could do was, "To wage by force or guile eternal war, Irreconcilable, to our Grand Foe." (God.) He thought it was "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." Soon, innumerable obeyed his voice. He desecrated all God's Holy Sites with golden graven images (false gods) and gave devils to adore for deities. One of these was Moloch, worshipped at Bohemian Grove."Even to that hill of scandal, by the grove, Of Moloch homicide, lust hard hate."

"His holy rites and solemn feasts profaned,

And with their darkness durst affront his light,

First, Moloch, horrid king, besmeared with blood

Of human sacrifice, and paren'ts tears;

Though, for the noise of drums and timbrels loud,

Their children's cries unheard that passed through fire

To his grim idol." (the owl.)

How's that for 'pseudo-religio-scientific' crap?

Hazel

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Gerry Forster

To: [email protected]

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:43 AM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Sitchin's Theory

Hi, Dean and all!

Sorry I haven't been able to post for a while but my PC finally threw in the towel and I had to get another one fixed up! Whew! What a backlog of mail ! You guys have certainly covered a lot of ground! BTW, Dean, I must congratulate you on your ever-burgeoning and updated website(s)! Great work, cobber!

Anyhow, I've been reading away furiously, and I notice old Zecheria Sitchin has cropped up among the topics, so I can't resist rising to the bait! I have all of his books - which I foolishly splurged out on, in a mad moment of mental abberation some years back. So, having subjected his endless scribings to a heavy scrutiny, I feel that I'm well qualified to put in my ten cents' worth on the subject. I believe that Sitchin has a deep fixation with his Annunaki "gods" and their giant mystery planet, Niburu. And, from what I've read of his work, I personally believe it all to be a load of pure self-delusionary BS. (Though his books must have made him quite a bundle - lucky stiff!)

Quite apart from trying to create another race of superior godlike beings by madly blending together the nephelim "fallen angels" of Jehovah and the ancient Sumerian/Babylonian hierarchy, his notion of them living thousands of years upon a gigantic planet with an enormously elongated, eliptical orbit, 10 times that of Pluto, which takes 3,600 years to complete, is, in hindsight, completely unscientific.

His Nibiru (or Marduk) doesn't even have the Sun for warmth or light over the vast bulk of its enormous orbit through the inky darkness of outer space. So I'd hate to be one of those poor Annunaki "gods" since they would have to live for 90 per cent of their almost endless lives in as gloomy a place as God's fallen rebel angels (their fathers or themselves?) - whom the Bible says are confined in chains in the pitch-dark pit of Tartaros, a special underground prison - under the earth. (Hopefully, one prays NOT inside the Hollow Earth!)

Quite apart from that however, one wonders how the Sun can still maintain its gravitational grip on such a far-ranging planet. Added to this is the notion that we are led to believe the Annunaki were flesh and blood "gods" who had lifespans of yea thousands of years. So if, as Sitchin implies, the Annunaki were the NEFILIM, the giant ogre-like offspring of the original fallen angels (who were the NEPHELIM) and their human wives - they must also have been the antediluvian giants of Genesis. But apart from this confusion between NeFILim and NePHELim - this presents a major problem. The alleged twelfth planet, Nibiru (or Marduk), is allegedly around ten times the size of Tiamat (the Earth) and thus it must have a gravitational force at least ten or more times that of the Earth. According to astrophysical law, any life-forms upon Nibiru would, of necessity, have to be very small, very squat, and very solid in size and build, to withstand such an enormous pull (or is that "push"?) of gravity. So the giant Annunaki would have been flattened out into rather big, messy-looking pancakes the second they set foot on Nibiru!

I'd hate to be in Sitchin's shoes when he fronts up before his Maker (unless he already has) to explain why he, as a Hebrew, has elected to tangle together so many different religious entities in his rather cunningly-woven hypothesis, and in particular, suggesting that the fallen angel nephelim (or their giant NEFILIM offspring), assumed the role of "Elohim" and created Mankind in THEIR own image instead of God's! BTW, according to James Strong, the Greek and Hebrew scholar who wrote that magnificent Bible concordance - the rebellious angels were the NEPHELIM, and their half-human offspring were the NEPHILIM. NEPHEL means "Fallen", whilst NEPHIL means "Giant, Tyrant or Bully", so there we go!

As to Sitchin's books. They're very ingeniously written and worthy of Steven Speilberg's attention, but IMHO they're still religio-scientific crap! I should know. I'm writing some of my own, even as we speak!

Regards to all, and a big "Hello" to Hazel - (liked your book!)

Marsflash (aka Gerry)

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Gerry,

thanks for the nice comments!

Dean

Dean, Is it the historical value of these relics or because Paul Weinzweig says,``There is $3 trillion of treasure lying on the bottom of the Caribbean, and a good part of that is near to Cuba because a good part of the wealth of the world came through Cuba,'' which is the incentive? Hazel, ever cynical.

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From:
Dean De Lucia

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Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 8:04 PM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Near Cuba

This is just amazing. If true, and it is, it just goes to show that we cannot have faith in our concepts of history on this planet. We need to divorce ourselves from false and incomplete notions in order to let new ones in.

DD

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010514/lf/cuba_treasure_dc_1.html

LOST CITY OFF WESTERN CUBA?

Most intriguingly, researchers using sonar equipment have discovered, at a depth of about 2,200 feet, a huge land plateau with clear images of what appears to be urban development partly covered by sand. From above, the shapes resemble pyramids, roads and buildings.

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Hazel,

They are probably more interested in thegold coins than in the pyramids. For us, though, the existence of pyramids on the bottom of the ocean is significant. It suggests that the Carribean basin was above water and that it sunk. This suggests vertical, up and down plate movement, which fits in well with the Hollow Earth Theory.

DD

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Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Near Cuba

Dean, Is it the historical value of these relics or because Paul Weinzweig says,``There is $3 trillion of treasure lying on the bottom of the Caribbean, and a good part of that is near to Cuba because a good part of the wealth of the world came through Cuba,'' which is the incentive? Hazel, ever cynical.

[allplanets-hollow] Re: Sitchin's
Theory
MarsFlash/Gerry...

Magnificent analysis!

 - Dick Fojut
···

Hi, Dean and
all!
Sorry I haven't been
able to post for a while but my PC finally threw in the towel and I
had to get another one fixed up! Whew! What a
backlog of mail ! You guys have certainly covered a lot of
ground! BTW, Dean, I must congratulate you on your
ever-burgeoning and updated website(s)! Great work, cobber!
Anyhow, I've been
reading away furiously, and I notice old Zecheria Sitchin has
cropped up among the topics, so I can't resist rising to the
bait! I have all of his books - which I
foolishly splurged out on, in a mad moment of mental abberation some
years back. So, having subjected his endless scribings to a
heavy scrutiny, I feel that I'm well qualified to put in my ten
cents' worth on the subject. I believe that
Sitchin has a deep fixation with his Annunaki "gods"
and their giant mystery planet, Niburu. And, from what I've
read of his work, I personally believe it all to be a load of
pure self-delusionary BS. (Though his books must have made him quite
a bundle - lucky stiff!)
Quite apart from trying
to create another race of superior godlike beings by madly
blending together the nephelim "fallen angels" of Jehovah
and the ancient Sumerian/Babylonian hierarchy, his
notion of them living thousands of years upon a
gigantic planet with an enormously elongated, eliptical orbit, 10
times that of Pluto, which takes 3,600 years to complete, is, in
hindsight, completely
unscientific.
His Nibiru (or
Marduk) doesn't even have the Sun for warmth or
light over the vast bulk of its enormous orbit through the
inky darkness of outer space. So I'd hate to be one of
those poor Annunaki "gods" since they would have to
live for 90 per cent of their almost endless lives in
as gloomy a place as God's fallen rebel angels (their
fathers or themselves?) - whom the Bible says
are confined in chains in the pitch-dark pit of Tartaros,
a special underground prison - under the earth.
(Hopefully, one prays NOT inside the Hollow
Earth!)
Quite apart from that
however, one wonders how the Sun can still maintain its
gravitational grip on such a far-ranging planet. Added to
this is the notion that we are led to believe the
Annunaki were flesh and blood "gods" who had lifespans of
yea thousands of years. So if, as Sitchin implies, the Annunaki
were the NEFILIM, the giant ogre-like offspring of the
original fallen angels (who were the NEPHELIM) and their
human wives - they must also have been the antediluvian
giants of Genesis. But apart from this
confusion between NeFILim and NePHELim - this presents
a major problem. The alleged twelfth planet, Nibiru (or
Marduk), is allegedly around ten times the size of Tiamat (the Earth)
and thus it must have a gravitational force at
least ten or more times that of the
Earth. According to astrophysical law,
any life-forms upon Nibiru would, of necessity, have to be
very small, very squat, and very solid in size and
build, to withstand such an enormous pull (or is that
"push"?) of gravity. So the giant Annunaki
would have been flattened out into rather big,
messy-looking pancakes the second they set foot on
Nibiru!
I'd hate to be in
Sitchin's shoes when he fronts up before his Maker (unless he already
has) to explain why he, as a Hebrew, has elected to tangle
together so many different religious entities in his rather
cunningly-woven hypothesis, and in particular, suggesting that
the fallen angel nephelim (or their giant NEFILIM
offspring), assumed the role of "Elohim" and created
Mankind in THEIR own image instead of God's! BTW, according to James Strong, the Greek and
Hebrew scholar who wrote that magnificent Bible concordance

  • the rebellious angels were the NEPHELIM, and their half-human
    offspring were the NEPHILIM. NEPHEL means
    "Fallen", whilst NEPHIL means "Giant,
    Tyrant or Bully", so there we go!
    As to Sitchin's
    books. They're very ingeniously written and worthy of Steven
    Speilberg's attention, but IMHO they're still religio-scientific
    crap! I should know. I'm writing some of my own,
    even as we speak!
    Regards to all, and a
    big "Hello" to Hazel - (liked your
    book!)
    Marsflash (aka
    Gerry)

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[allplanets-hollow] Re: Sitchin's Theory
Yeah Gerry, I forgot to mention, you are dead right when you say Nephilim means a great big bully! I still think Sitchin's books might be worth a read, between the lines. Hazel

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From:
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To: [email protected]

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:30 AM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Sitchin's Theory

MarsFlash/Gerry...

Magnificent analysis!

   - Dick Fojut

Hi, Dean and all!
Sorry I haven't been able to post for a while but my PC finally threw in the towel and I had to get another one fixed up! Whew! What a backlog of mail ! You guys have certainly covered a lot of ground! BTW, Dean, I must congratulate you on your ever-burgeoning and updated website(s)! Great work, cobber!
Anyhow, I've been reading away furiously, and I notice old Zecheria Sitchin has cropped up among the topics, so I can't resist rising to the bait! I have all of his books - which I foolishly splurged out on, in a mad moment of mental abberation some years back. So, having subjected his endless scribings to a heavy scrutiny, I feel that I'm well qualified to put in my ten cents' worth on the subject. I believe that Sitchin has a deep fixation with his Annunaki "gods" and their giant mystery planet, Niburu. And, from what I've read of his work, I personally believe it all to be a load of pure self-delusionary BS. (Though his books must have made him quite a bundle - lucky stiff!)
Quite apart from trying to create another race of superior godlike beings by madly blending together the nephelim "fallen angels" of Jehovah and the ancient Sumerian/Babylonian hierarchy, his notion of them living thousands of years upon a gigantic planet with an enormously elongated, eliptical orbit, 10 times that of Pluto, which takes 3,600 years to complete, is, in hindsight, completely unscientific.
His Nibiru (or Marduk) doesn't even have the Sun for warmth or light over the vast bulk of its enormous orbit through the inky darkness of outer space. So I'd hate to be one of those poor Annunaki "gods" since they would have to live for 90 per cent of their almost endless lives in as gloomy a place as God's fallen rebel angels (their fathers or themselves?) - whom the Bible says are confined in chains in the pitch-dark pit of Tartaros, a special underground prison - under the earth. (Hopefully, one prays NOT inside the Hollow Earth!)
Quite apart from that however, one wonders how the Sun can still maintain its gravitational grip on such a far-ranging planet. Added to this is the notion that we are led to believe the Annunaki were flesh and blood "gods" who had lifespans of yea thousands of years. So if, as Sitchin implies, the Annunaki were the NEFILIM, the giant ogre-like offspring of the original fallen angels (who were the NEPHELIM) and their human wives - they must also have been the antediluvian giants of Genesis. But apart from this confusion between NeFILim and NePHELim - this presents a major problem. The alleged twelfth planet, Nibiru (or Marduk), is allegedly around ten times the size of Tiamat (the Earth) and thus it must have a gravitational force at least ten or more times that of the Earth. According to astrophysical law, any life-forms upon Nibiru would, of necessity, have to be very small, very squat, and very solid in size and build, to withstand such an enormous pull (or is that "push"?) of gravity. So the giant Annunaki would have been flattened out into rather big, messy-looking pancakes the second they set foot on Nibiru!
I'd hate to be in Sitchin's shoes when he fronts up before his Maker (unless he already has) to explain why he, as a Hebrew, has elected to tangle together so many different religious entities in his rather cunningly-woven hypothesis, and in particular, suggesting that the fallen angel nephelim (or their giant NEFILIM offspring), assumed the role of "Elohim" and created Mankind in THEIR own image instead of God's! BTW, according to James Strong, the Greek and Hebrew scholar who wrote that magnificent Bible concordance - the rebellious angels were the NEPHELIM, and their half-human offspring were the NEPHILIM. NEPHEL means "Fallen", whilst NEPHIL means "Giant, Tyrant or Bully", so there we go!
As to Sitchin's books. They're very ingeniously written and worthy of Steven Speilberg's attention, but IMHO they're still religio-scientific crap! I should know. I'm writing some of my own, even as we speak!
Regards to all, and a big "Hello" to Hazel - (liked your book!)
Marsflash (aka Gerry)

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