PHOENIX FIVE EARTH CHANGE BULLETINS
May 16, 2001 by MW Mandeville
ITEM(S): Atlantis Is Rising!
http://www.sightings.com/general10/pyramidsroads.htm
'Pyramids, Roads And Buildings'
Found At 2200' In Caribbean?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/573489.asp
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Leslee: I checked out these sites. They were very good. I caught a little on TV one day when they were exploring the waters under Cuba. The History channel was airing the old In Search Of program for a while with Leonard Nimoy. They showed the Bimini wall and one Doctor said he retrieved a crystal ball from a pyramid underwater. He demonstrated that a wand with a metal weight would levitate above the ball. A flat topped pyramid under water just off the coast of Florida,was shown on The Jupiter Menace. From: Ralph
allplanets-hollow wrote:
<Leslee: I checked out these sites. They were very good. I caught a little on TV one day when they were exploring the waters under Cuba. The History channel was airing the old In Search Of program for a while with Leonard Nimoy. They showed the Bimini wall and one Doctor said he retrieved a crystal ball from a pyramid underwater. He demonstrated that a wand with a metal weight would levitate above the ball. A flat topped pyramid under water just off the coast of Florida,was shown on The Jupiter Menace. From: Ralph>
Ralph: I would love to have that crystal ball that was found. I wonder if the doctor would ever sell in? NOT--but if he did, I wonder what the price for something like that would be.
I thought the finds beneath the Caribbean were interesting. The whole city sounded intriguing. I wonder how long they are going to continue exploring down there.
Leslee
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Leslee,
Here is a piece from that article:
" SEARCHING FOR A LOST CITY
Most intriguingly, researchers using sonar equipment have
discovered, at a depth of about 2,200 feet (700-800 meters), a huge
land plateau with clear images of what appears to be urban
development partly covered by sand. From above, the shapes resemble
pyramids, roads and buildings."
Leslee-
You know, this and any other deep, underwater constructions suggests
vertical plate movement, at least in the sense that some undergroud
cavern collapsed and dry land went under. They say that the whole
Gulf of Mexico was above water at one point.
If land masses can drop like this, then this could explain lower sea
levels- when the land mass was higher, the level of the oceans was
higher, too. Have any othe land masses dropped?
According to Cater´s scheme, what would account for plate movement,
vertical or horizontal, would be electrostatic force which builds up
beneath plates and along plate lines in condenser-like fashion,
fueled by soft particle penetration, which breaks up below and
releases the electrical hard particle within.
By the way, that virus got my computer. I´m on somebody elses. If I
have correspondence pending, wait a little. I might have my computerr
up by tonight.
Dharma/Dean
I wonder what effect removing the crystal from the pryamid, if any, will have
on the area, or the rest of us???
MM
MM,
Good point! I think it was probably the pyramid that kept the crystal charged. But both have their own properties. I am wondering if the crystal will weaken over time? Maybe not if he charges it in sunlight, or even full moon light once a month. I also wonder what type of crystal ball--there are several varieties. How large. What kept the wand levitating-- sounds like was it a repelling charge between the crystal and the metal weight? As both carry charges.
Leslee
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Pyramids, Roads & Building in Caribbean
I wonder what effect removing the crystal from the pryamid, if any, will have
on the area, or the rest of us???
MM
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Deno: They claim there is a lot of evidence of an impact crater in the
Gulf of Mexico, like a comet or meteor hit there. I was thinking of one of
our previous moons may have crashed there. I have one article claiming that
this is what killed the dinosaurs, but what if it happened more recently
like 15 to 20 thousand years ago. The Blue Hole of Belize is a large
circular cave system that was above water, but now under sea. The
stalagtites started growing at a crooked angle roughly that long ago they
said. I do think there was a big impact in the area . From: Ralph
The crystal ball was in a pair of hands like a pedistool towards the top of
the pyramid. There was a metal rod coming down to the ball and the doctor
was able to remove the ball from the hands. Later he found out about it
being able to levitatae things . This was some time ago, so I don't think
we have to worry about it effecting us. A number of people examined it. I
am not sure of its purpose. There were healing waters in this area also,
and Coral Castle was in Homestead Florida where Ed Leedscalin did some
strange things (cutting and levitating stones.) This was also featured on
In Search Of.. This was on History Channel, but they are no longer showing
In Search Of. From: Ralph
Leslee,
I picked up a 5" diameter crystal ball in a Botanica up in Harlem about
six-months ago. They had around six of them for sale. I picked them all up to
feel their energys. One of them really gave me a warm feeling and made my
heart beat pick-up its pace when I held it near my chest, so I purchased it.
I have it sitting on my desk. I am going to take your advice and put it in
the Sun and Moon occasionally. Maybe I will get a small pyramid to keep it in
once and a while, too.
MM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Pyramids, Roads & Building in Caribbean
Mike wrote:
<I picked up a 5" diameter crystal ball in a Botanica up in Harlem about
six-months ago. They had around six of them for sale. I picked them all up to feel their energys. One of them really gave me a warm feeling and made my heart beat pick-up its pace when I held it near my chest, so I purchased it. I have it sitting on my desk. I am going to take your advice and put it in the Sun and Moon occasionally. Maybe I will get a small pyramid to keep it in once and a while, too.>
MM
Mike--
You got a live one. Actually, you did exactly what people should do when they purchase crystals or any type of stone. Pick it up to see if you can feel the pulse, is so, then that particular crystal is compatible with your body. Sun or Moon -- I use either, but many swear to charge only by the moon, as crystals are found growing in dark places, so night may be better. I am very protective of my crystal balls, I prefer no one touch them, as crystals absorb vibrations, so I rinse it with water if it is handled. You can get a cool pyramid that is not very large, desk top, with glass on bottom and 3 sides--then you just slip whatever you want in and out of it. I decided to see, after about 5 years of owning mine, if it would have any effect on food. I put a chunk of fresh broccoli inside the pyramid and then one of equal size outside of it. The one in the pyramid did stay fresher longer. Course, gotta have some sun rays to keep the pyramid working! So, in a window with light. Although, full spectrum lights might work. I just changed my whole house to those--you should see my plants now!
Leslee
Leslee,
You just remined me about what someone told me years ago when you mentioned
washing your crystals. This person told me it is best to take them to the
ocean, because the salt water has special properties to help clean them.
I will put mine in the Moon light tonight.
Thanks again,
MM
Original subject: Crystal & Salt
Mike wrote:
You just remined me about what someone told me years ago when you mentioned
washing your crystals. This person told me it is best to take them to the
ocean, because the salt water has special properties to help clean them.
I will put mine in the Moon light tonight.
Thanks again,
Mike--
Your welcome!
What your friend told you is indeed very true. And, you can purchase sea salt in bulk in most grocery stores. Dump some in a bucket w/water and let your crystals cleanse themselves once a month. This is also good for jewelry that is worn often. If one is in the habit of wearing a lot of turquoise, emeralds or green stones (jade), then these are a must for cleansing, as these stones draw illness from others. And, unless you absolutely can not live without them, stay away from diamonds--all it takes is for one evil person to wear it or touch it and their mark can be there for a very long time, salt or not. Personally, I would not own one. But, if you do have and wear them, then cleanse them often, like if you take wedding rings off at night leave in a glass of sea salt to draw of the negative vibes of others.
Signing off until tonight, Leslee
Leslee,
Did you say that you were beginning chapter 4? Chapter 12 gets riveting, and 13 is where is starts with a bang. From that point onward, you won't be able to put the book down.
Until then, the book is kind of drawn out and Victorian. Don't worry, you'll syrvive.
Etidorhpa: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index13.html
Dharma/Dean
Ralph,
What if the electrostatic tension holding up the plates ws distrubed,
possibly onpurpose, and that area caved in? talk about weapons of mass
destruction.
Dharma/Dean
Leslee,
Thanks for the full explanation. It will motivate me to take a drive to the
sea shore soon. Thanks again.
MM
I bet you all thought that the entrance to Shambala was in Tibet. Not so- it
is in Brazil. Check out the pics!
# : ^ )
Dean
To: List Members
From: Dharma/Dean
" Apelike wildmen " have been reported in Central America. Here is section
10.6 from " Forbidden Archaeology " on the subject:
http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~ghi/fa.html
10.6 CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA
Apelike wildmen are also reported in southern Mexico and throughout Central
America. In White Indians of Darien, Richard Oglesby Marsh said a man told
him that in 1920 he had killed a humanlike animal in Central America. In
Buckskin Joe, Edward Jonathan Hoyt reported an encounter he had in 1898 in
Honduras. A large, apelike creature, about 5 feet tall, crawled over the end
of his bunk. Hoyt killed the animal, which resembled a human (Green 1978, p.
133).
From southern Mexico's tropical forests come accounts of beings called the
Sisimite. Wendell Skousen, a geologist, said the people of Cubulco in Baja
Verapaz reported: "There live in the mountains very big, wild men,
completely clothed in short, thick, brown, hairy fur, with no necks, small
eyes, long arms and huge hands. They leave footprints twice the length of a
man's." Several persons said that they had been chased down mountainsides by
the Sisimite. Skousen thought the creatures, which were said to travel
sometimes on two legs and sometimes on all four, may have been bears.
However, upon questioning the natives carefully, he wrote: "it looked like a
bear, but it wasn't from the description that they gave?no conspicuous ears,
no `snout"' (Sanderson 1961, p. 159). Similar creatures are reported in
Guatemala, where, it has been said, they kidnap women and children
(Sanderson 1961, pp. 161?162).
People in Belize (formerly British Honduras) speak of semi?human creatures
called Dwendis, which inhabit the jungles in the southern part of their
country. The name Dwendi comes from the Spanish word Duende, meaning
"goblin." Ivan Sanderson, who conducted research in Belize, wrote ( 1961,
pp. 164-165 ): "Dozens told me of having seen them, and these were mostly
men of substance who had worked for responsible organizations like the
Forestry Department and who had, in several cases, been schooled or trained
either in Europe or the United States. One, a junior forestry officer born
locally, described in great detail two of these little creatures that he had
suddenly noticed quietly watching him on several occasions at the edge of
the forestry reserve near the foot of the Maya Mountains .... These little
folk were described as being between three foot six and four foot six, well
proportioned but with very heavy shoulders and rather long arms, clothed in
thick, tight, close brown hair looking like that of a short?coated dog;
having very flat yellowish faces but head?hair no longer than the body hair
except down the back of the neck and midback." The Dwendis appear to
represent a species different from the large Sasquatch of the Pacific
Northwest of North America.
Most of Sanderson's informants told him that the Dwendis carried what
appeared to be dried palm leaves or some kind of large hatlike object over
their heads. Sanderson (1961, p. 165) observed: "This at first sounds like
the silliest thing, but when one has heard it from highly educated men as
well as from simple peasants, and all over an area as great as that from
Peten [southern Mexico] to Nicaragua, one begins to wonder." He then pointed
out: "There are many Mayan bas?reliefs that show pairs of tiny little men
with big hats but no clothes, standing among trees and amid the vast legs of
demi?gods, priests, and warriors. They are also much smaller than the
peasants bearing gifts to the temples" (Sanderson 1961, p. 166).
From the Guianas region of South America come accounts of wildmen called
Didis. Early explorers heard reports about them from the Indians, who said
they were about five feet tall, walked erect, and were covered with thick
black hair.
In 1931, Nelloc Beccari, an anthropologist from Italy, heard an account of
the Didi from Mr. Haines, the Resident Magistrate in British Guiana.
Heuvelmans gave this summary of what Haines related to Beccari: "Haines told
him that he had come upon a couple of di?di many years before when he was
prospecting for gold. In 1910 he was going through the forest along the
Konawaruk, a tributary which joins the Essequibo just above its junction
with the Potaro, when he suddenly came upon two strange creatures, which
stood up on their hind feet when they saw him. They had human features but
were entirely covered with reddish brown fur .... the two creatures
retreated slowly and disappeared into the forest" (Sanderson 1961, pp.
179?180).
After giving many similar accounts in his book about wildmen, Sanderson
(1961, p. 181) stated: "The most significant single fact about these reports
from Guiana is that never once has any local person?nor any person reporting
what a local person says?so much as indicated that these creatures are just
`monkeys.' In all cases they have specified that they are tailless, erect,
and have human attributes."
From the eastern slopes of the Andes in Ecuador come reports of the Shiru, a
small fur?covered hominidlike creature, about 4 to 5 feet tall (Sanderson
1961, p. 166). In Brazil, people tell of the large apelike Mapinguary, which
leaves giant humanlike footprints and is said to kill cattle (Sanderson
1961, p. 174).
Dean,
About the size of Mars AND David Pratt's online book....
Commenting about your earlier note to Mike: "...a width of 375 miles would make Olympus Mons about 11 % of the diameter of the planet..." Amazing! Cater may be very right that Mars - and other bodies - are actually much larger than popularly believed.
Dean, YOU alerted us to DAVID PRATT'S latest URL, his online book: "MYSTERIES OF THE INNER EARTH." Excellent stuff. I FINALLY printed off and read all 4 chapters. This guy is a first rate researcher. Voluminos references at the end of each chapter (including numerous from Mike Mott, Lamprecht and Cater.)
Pratt's first chapter "The Solid Earth Hypothosis" thoroughly covers most of the beliefs embraced today by orthodox scientists. And (as he did so well in his earlier excellent piece on "Gravity"), Pratt "kindly" but effectively dumps many of their beliefs, "tectonic plates," among them. That first chapter is a science primer EVERYONE (on list or off) should read. Complete absence of any comments by others so far, surprises me. Apparently other list members have not yet read Pratt's online book! But I'm assuming YOU, Dean, have by now also read all 4 chapters.
Like Chapter One, Pratt's second Chapter "The Hollow Earth Hypothesis" also "kindly" but effectively dumps many of the assertions in past HE books, including Etidorpha, but especially writings by Marshall Gardner. Chapter Two alone will not win adherents to those authors' HE ideas. Pratt MAY be very disturbing to the beliefs of some members about the HE. But if we're all honest, every list member should read the chapter and assess what Pratt has written, for themselves.
Pratt also "dumps" some HE assertions in Chapter 3, "Polar Puzzles," but does supports some.
He redeems himself in Chapter 4, "Mythology, Paradise and the Innner World."
From Thosophical, Buddhist and Hindu writings (all familiar to Dean) he presents much to enhance the existence of mystical - yet possibly physically real - lands and peoples in an inner earth.
If anyone has not saved the Pratt URL(s) you gave us, here they are again...
Mysteries of the Inner Earth by David Pratt
May 2001 (I listed the individual URLs for each chapter)...
Part 1: The Solid Earth Hypothesis
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/inner1.htm
Part 2: The Hollow Earth Hypothesis
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/inner2.htm
Part 3: Polar Puzzles
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/inner3.htm
Part 4: Mythology, Paradise, and the Inner World
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/inner4.htm
Also, Dean... Although Pratt is obviously completely unknowing (like 99+%) about the 5 books of James Churchward, I was amazed to find his first chapter SUPPORTING (or at least not contradicting) most of Churchward's Scientific notions! Since you haven't read them all (and may never) you have only my word for this. Had Pratt been fully aware of what Churchward wrote, I think those ideas would have been a part of Chapter One, pro and possibly con.
Churchward's conceptions on Gravity, Heat, Light, etc, apparently DIFFER from Cater's. But not as much as both differ with the currently accepted notions of orthodox science. I haven't yet reconciled Cater's "soft particles" and "hard particles" theory with Churchward's "4 primary Forces" regulating the universe. Maybe they can't be reconciled. What is important is which man's concepts BETTER explain most of Earth's physical phenomena. Though admittedly deficient in most of Cater's views, from those YOU have presented so far, I am still of the opinion that Churchward's concepts BETTER explain MOST physical phenomena... including electromagnetic. Had Churchward lived beyond 1936, he surely would have revised - and enhanced - his earlier beliefs. But BASICS would still apply.
Possibly "old" Churchward is back now, as some scientist we've not heard of, aware of his past as Churchward, or not. If he is, I hope the guy (or gal) surfaces sometime soon, before I depart. Still one of THE greatest unrecognized scientific minds of the past century, in my humble opinion.
P.S. The NAGAS (Naacal Priests) were NOT serpent worshippers as some continue to write. The serpent was only a SYMBOL for the Creator in action.
Also, in that recent email piece, Childress wrote that the Indian RAMA civilization dates back 15,000 years. Even so, Dean, you seem to suggest the Indo Europeans (Aryans?) may have arrived much earlier. 15,000 years back? Not 2,000 to 3,000 years back? That's a real stretch.
You probably DIDN'T thoroughly read (or read much at all in) those two Churchward "Children of MU" historical chapters (India and the great Uighur Empire) I sent earlier by email. Like Childress about the RAMAs 15,000 ago, Churchward wrote of India's advanced civilizations 25,000 years back. And what he termed "Hindu" literature dated back long before the Uighur (Aryan) remnants arrived after departing the mountains for the plains of India and other areas. The Medes and Persians were also OTHER (Aryan) separated Uighur mountain remnants that came down from the mountains in different areas, according to Churchward... none of them out of a hole in the north pole. There may be a populated hollow earth, but it appears quite unlikely that was where the Aryans came from, in my opinion.
Churchward, writing of the great Uighur Empire, stretching from the Pacific to about Moscow today, wrote that they also had outposts or small sub colonies throughout Europe all the way to Ireland and Spain (possible ancestors of the Basques). This was long BEFORE the mountains were uplifted by subterranean gas belts mostly between 15,000 to 12,000 years back. Like half the Asian Uighur Empre that was earlier drowned at the same time by north moving waves (without ice), many of those European Uighur outposts may have been wiped out when the waves of water (with ice), from the last "magnetic cataclysm," swept down over the pole south onto the western parts of northern Europe around 17,000 years past. Some obviously survived.
If Churchward's "history" is correct, the half of the Asian Uighur people that did not drown from the earlier magnetic cataclysm waves in Asia, were killed by the millions when the Mountains were shoved up. Only handfuls survived in valleys uplifted with the mountains. In austere conditions, over thousands of years those Uighur Aryans multiplied and eventually came down to the replenished plains of India, the middle east, and spread westward across all parts of Europe. If Churchward was right, we now know HOW and from WHERE most of the "Aryans" originated. - Dick
Dick,
I just got a post out on our list and earlier I worked on one for
fantasticrealities. I'll respond to you and Scott in the morning, it is off
to look at Mars right now. What a clear night, and there is little wind.
About David Pratt's book, on the whole, I like it, although I disagree with
some ideas he has on Arctic stuff and with some of his ideas on the aurorae.
But that's ok, everyone gets to have their ideas. When you put stuff up, it
has to stand or fall based on its own merit. People are going to make
comments. Discussion on these points is good.
Don't worry if most of the list members don't say much, though. I rarely get
answers, if you think about it. It is only a certain group that responds.
Most people just want to expose themselves to the ideas and take their time,
which is fine, too, I guess. Really, I can't believe how some of the things
I say go without comment, but it's no big deal. I'm on a UFO list which I
appreciate, and I don't comment much.
It's a list forum- you speak your piece. David Pratt is welcome here, too.
Dharma/Dean
Dean...
The following is odd. From WorldNetDaily this AM is a report that the Red Chinese government is targeting the nearly half million UIGHUR people, as "criminals and separatists." 480 have already been executed for those "crimes."
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22883
Until this I wasn't even aware the UIGHUR name was still in use anywhere. Interesting because James Churchward wrote that some pre-mountains, pre-magnetic-cataclysm (flood) Uighurs in Asia (the Aryans) married certain of the Chinese. Not the yellow coolie types, but those with white skins. (Picky people)