Other Entrances to HE

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Hi, All. Here Goes Nothing!

I was interested in the point Leslee raised in response to Ralph's message concerning the Underground Entrances (Maltese Cave entrance) from Timothy Beckley's "Subterranean Worlds Inside Earth". I add my own voice to hers when she points out that the focus of the HE interest and research has been almost exclusively upon the Polar entrances - specifically the Arctic.

We have all been more or less inundated and might I say "brainwashed" with "Etidorhpa" in the past, but nobody seems to have really taken the hint that there are probably scores, if not hundreds, of such DRY-LAND "portals" via deep cave-systems, into the Hollow Earth! I get the feeling that some of us have developed "tunnel-vision" (forgive the pun!) in viewing the North pole region as being the "Number1" entrance, largely due to the influence of Emerson's "The Smoky God" - which, to my mind, is purely a work of fiction, written as fact - a common technique with early sci-fi writers - and Byrd's seemingly fictitious "Lost Diaries" about him finding his way into the HE inadvertently by airplane.

All subsequent embellishment of this "Polar-Hole" notion, by adding the reports of "turn-of-the-century" Arctic explorers to these two fundamental yarns, has really lead us nowhere. I believe that it really is high time for us to have a serious look at some other possible LAND-entrances, and put aside the Polar Ice Cap aspect as a truly viable proposition. Poor old Jan L.has had nothing but frustration and heartache in attempting to pursue this "Holy Grail" Polar route, and, as I said a long time back, even if we did locate the site of such a hole, I'd bet London to a brick that it will be a SUBMERGED one! In which case we would be looking for some sort of Jules Vernian vertical submarine or diving-bell to get through it!

There has been absolutely NO confirmatory official sighting of such a hole as we used to talk about - one 1,400 miles across - and I'm convinced that IFone DID exist, it would surely have been discovered a thousand times over by now! How many thousands of planes have overflown the North polar region since such Great Circle routes began to be used by commercial aircraft! Not to mention all the orbital satellites that have passed thousands of times over that same sector? We just can't go on believing it's all a big "NASA Plot" to keep us few Hollow Earthers from discovering the terrible truth! I hope that none of us is THAT paranoid ! Of course, for those among us who subscribe to Governmental "Cover-Up" theories, there's plenty of food for thought in the Brantonian "Underground Conspiracy" tales which continue to proliferate like mushrooms. They're probably all fed with the same perfect nutrient - "B -S-"!

I've suggested it before, and I do again, that we ought to try taking a different tack by looking into some of the great tunnels and caverns which are actually KNOWN to exist, and to use whatever means seem appropriate to search these. Either by actual speleological exploration - (a LOT cheaper and far more achieveable than the Polar concept) - and/or by exploration upon the psychic plane, via such experts as we already have among us! I refer to Leslee and Greg and others who are likewise psychically-gifted.
I know this latter may not sit too well with those of us who will only accept cast-iron mathematical and physical proof, with plenty of those 16"x12" glossy photos to back it up. But what OTHER means are there open to us? Really?

We will never get off First Base by arguing the toss about "What Nansen thought he saw, back at the turn of the century" or "What Joe Cater claims for his Soft Particles and gravitation". Surely we're all in this group because we ALREADY BELIEVE that the Earth IS HOLLOW, so why are we trying to prove it to each other by rambling semantic arguments and quoting fictitious fairy-tales? Isn't all that sort of thing really the bailiwick of the Fantastic Reality people? I also feel that we aren't listening anything like halfway enough to any of the other researchers in this field. God knows why not! Are we trying to hog all the Hollow Earth knowledge and secrets entirely for ourselves?

Matt and Kev Taylor, for example, have many brilliant ideas that have NEVER been discussed by this group, yet despite my repeated efforts to draw attention to their potentially unique input, as set forth in "The Land of No Horizon" (apparently still sadly unread by most of you) we still keep our noses buried in "Etidorhpa" and the "Smoky God"! Isn't it time we allowed a gust of new and original thought to blow into the limp-sails of our seemingly-becalmed ship of alleged-mental adventure?

I think that many of the recent "flare-ups" between members were probably founded upon nothing more than FRUSTRATION because we just AREN'T getting anywhere! Millions of wasted words continue to splash across our "AllPlanets-Hollow" craft every week. But, alas, the water-tight mental bulkheads still seem to remain firmly sealed against any fresh, and therefore possibly "Boat-Rocking" new ideas or concepts filtering into our thinking from outside our cosy, but STATIC little ark!

Anyhow, I guess I've just added a bunch more wasted words to that mighty ocean - though hopefully to some purpose! After all don't they say that "Constant Dripping of Water Will Wear Away A Stone"?

Forgive me for writing a short novel - and for mixing my metaphors a bit !

Gerry

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Well put.
Dennis

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Gerry wrote:

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Dean wrote:

Gerry,

You´re right that there are many dry land portals which must be more
accessible that the Polar openings. But it is not clear that they
lead to the hollow Earth. I am sure that they lead to cavern worlds,
to entire cities underground, but I don´t know if they lead to the
hollow cavity. Certainly not directly.

For the intents and purposes of most of the list members, though, it
probably doesn´t matter so much. An adventure in the tunnel system
below the Andes to discover Inca cities miles and miles below might
be just as rewarding. There are dangers just as there are dangers in
the polar routes, it is just that they are a different set of
dangers. For example, are there underground reptiles? How about
hostile indians who want to sacrifice to some god? But I bet that if
one spent time around Machu Pichu or the Serra Roncador in Brazil,
that one could develop a relationship with the indians, show good
intentions and then be brought into confidence. I bet that this is
possible.

Dean:

Oh, come on now! the Polar routes are worthwhile, too. But we should
spread out our scope a little more.

Dean wrote:

Hey! Leave those Londoners alone! Just bet the royal family.

# ; ^ )

Dean wrote:

Now wait a minute. This can be exagerration. Nobody believes that, at
the neck of the opening, that there is a 1,400 mile gap. I don´t
think that even Gardner explained it like that. Maybe from the
points, or radius, at which it begins to corve inwards, it is 1,400
miles across, but not at the neck. And although the neck of the
opening might be several hundred miles long from above Elizabeth
Island to North of the New Siberian Islands, it certainly isn´t that
wide.

Dean wrote:

Very few aircraft have traversed that section of the Arctic. It has
been a military exclusion zone since the end of WWII. Rod M Cluff
conversed with a air traffic controller in Northern Alaska, and was
told that most aircraft which does fly the Polar oute either comes
over the Greenland side or more from the Wrnagel Island side, i.e.,
from either side, but no where the opening is deemed to be. And he
has an anecdote or two about aircraft being turned back.

Satellites? Our list member Will Rhea had an uncle who worked for the
national weather bureau when they first started receiving satellite
photos. His uncle told him that areas of the Arctic were typically
blacked out. What to speak of nowadays- a kid could do that work with
Adobe Workshop, and make it look more realistic. Very few satellites
have a Polar orbit, and they are censured.

Government censurship is a part of it. If we have figured it out,
then the governments of the area knew long before. What would
governments tell people? That there is a world within the crust and
the hollow part, and that they possess great technologies which are
light years ahead of us, and that some of the inner crust cultures
seem to be abducting humans and such, but that " we can´t do anything
about it and, by the way, just keep going to work everyday and don´t
panic- let´s keep civil order." Maybe this explains a lot of the
consolidation and globalization that has gone on.

Branton is intriguing, but we don´t need to argue from his platform.

Dean wrote:

I, personally, would love to see some activity along the above lines.
Who is going to do it? We can start kicking around ideas on this list.

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Dean:

Gerry, there is new blood on this list, a lot of it, and they need
exposure to the solid, Arctic evidence. How you can just brush it all
off is amzing to me. The only place that you can find a wide
selection of good Arctic material is on my Arctic site, and the list
members are welcome to look into it for themselves:

Even if we accept, we need to reinforce our understandings so that we
may not be dislodged from it so easily, in order to substantiate it
to others, and in order to keep ourselves from being made public
fools of.

Did you say semantic arguments? We take stock in sound logic, a lot
of it is right up on the sites. Why do you characterize it as
semantics? You are very good at persuasive writing yourself.

Dean wrote:

It seems very strange the way that you keep representing things. We
have an extremely wide scope on this list if anything. Matt Taylor
has been welcomed and invited several times. It is up to the person
who has interest in a certain line of thought to start and " carry "
a thread. A person has to post bits and pieces, quotes, and drum up
interest in general. A web site as a point of reference, or at least
an easy-to-procure book is important, too.

Etidorhpa and Olaf Jansen´s Smokey God give us some of the only first-
hand accounts that we have of the hollow cavity and the inner crust.
They should be scrutinized and learned well by hollow earthers.

Dean wrote:

To me it is obvious that the flare ups have to do with religious
sensitivites and pet theories being trampled upon.

And to me, there isn´t really any censureship on the list. Anybody
can say anything which is even vaguely on topic. But then statements
stand or fall on their own merit, like always.

No problem with length. It is good that you have spoken up. That is
the only way to work things out. Maybe as a result of all this we can
get Matt Taylor to be more active.

Later!

Dharma/Dean

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Frode,

I found several comments in the book Inside Spaceships, by George
Adamski, to suggest that gravity effects, as well as UFO propulsion
systems, are connected to electrogravitics.

"The ship itself," Firkon explained, "is utilizing the power of
nature—'electromagnetic,' I think you call it— and has excess power
at all times. Some of this excess is dissipated through its skin out
into space for a certain distance, sometimes only a short way,
although at times its influence can extend for several miles outward.
This acts as a shield against any particles, or `space debris,' as
you on Earth term it, repelling such things by this constantly
radiating force."

He went on to explain that all bodies in space are negative to space
and are actually moving in a sea of electromagnetic force. Therefore,
a negative radiation repels all negative bodies while at the same
time it prevents the ship from heating through friction.

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After rereading the post by Gerry, I feel I need to explain my post "well
put."

I was addressing the fact that we need to look at every possibility when
looking for entrances. I too believe we should spend more time looking into
the ancient tunnels than looking towards the North pole. However, my reasons
appear to be different from Gerry's. I believe that the polar openings are a
very likely reality IF the earth is hollow. I prescribe to Gardner's Theory
in regard to the forming of our planet. However, I also believe that the
polar openings have been hidden by alien technology, so any search for these
openings is a waste of time. Have felt that for many years.

But, he is dead wrong about dismissing Etidorhpa, the Smokey God etc. These
old books are where the real clues are. Everything written after the early
1900s has the Illuminati touch on it and it's very hard to separate truth,
half-truths and downright lies. As anyone who has studied my reports on the
different aspects of the mystery can see, I depend on the reports of others
from years ago to bridge across to modern evidence to support the
possibilities. .. We should not discard anything. We should leave no rock
unturned and should all study the above mentioned books because there are
many, many clues in there and, although I read these books over 20 years ago
... I've been shown new clues from these books years later by others who read
them also.

So, look for other entrances, or other answers, but NEVER forget ... these
"old" outdated books and ideas were the core of the mystery that started it
all to began with.

As for Brandon, he has contributed more to these studies than any man alive
today with the possible exception of Tal, and believe me, you better take
what he says seriously.
enough!
Dennis

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Subject: [HollowEarthMystical] (Fwd) Information Revelant to Hole In
the
North Pole

All,
I got this e-mail from someone. Its quite interesting.
Regards,
Jan

BCC to:

I am writing this letter due to information I have about the
hole
in the
North Pole. My uncle just recently passed away. He passed away
very
suddenly. Because of this, I was unable to ask him to elaborate
more
on the information he told me. In the early 70's he was stationed at
the Air Force base in Greenland near the North Pole. This base also
has a secrecy about the secrets it contains. I asked him if there is
in fact a hole in the North Pole. His reply was yes and in fact
stated
that there were in fact either 6 or 12 holes like that in the earth.
He told me the exact number but I cannot remember if it was 6 or
12. I
asked them what they were and his reply was simply: The earth has to
breathe. Now my uncle was a straight shooter. A man that worked in
the
oilfield industry in South Louisiana. With his skills he learned
working for the Air Force, he was able to develop and patent
equipment
used in Servicing the exploration companies drilling for oil. A big
shot in the industry so to speak. In addition, he worked on the
Fighterplanes at the air force base so he was in contact with the
fighter pilots. I he went up in the fighterplanes so I know when he
says there are holes in the earth, I take his word for it. He sat my
cousin and I down one day and told us plain and simple: DON'T EVER
THINK THAT WE ARE ALONE. At the time, I asked him to elaborate on
all
that he had told us, but stated that he could not because of the
oath
he took while being in the Air Force. In addition, he stated that he
would not want word to get out of him possibly saying too much.

There

is alot we don't know but I feel that the hole in the North Pole and
other places is indeed related to Edward Leedskalnin's Magnetic Grid
Theory. I believe that is what UFO's use to manipulate gravity.
Magnetism. After all, we have a north and south pole. I feel that
the
secret lies partly in the exploration of this hole in the North

Pole.