"Of Vicissitude of Things"

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Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

Solomon saith, There is no new thing upon the earth. So that as Plato had an imagination, That all knowledge was but remembrance; so Solomon giveth his sentence, That all novelty is but oblivion. Whereby you may see, that the river of Lethe runneth as well above ground as below. There is an abstruse astrologer that saith, If it were not for two things that are constant (the one is, that the fixed stars ever stand a like distance one from another, and never come nearer together, nor go further asunder; the other, that the diurnal motion perpetually keepeth time), no individual would last one moment. Certain it is, that the matter is in a perpetual flux, and never at a stay. The great winding-sheets, that bury all things in oblivion, are two; deluges and earthquakes. As for conflagrations and great droughts, they do not merely dispeople and destroy. Phadton's car went but a day. And the three years' drought in the time of Elias, was but particular, and left people alive. As for the great burnings by lightnings, which are often in the West Indies, they are but narrow. But in the other two destructions, by deluge and earthquake, it is further to be noted, that the remnant of people which hap to be reserved, are commonly ignorant and mountainous people, that can give no account of the time past; so that the oblivion is all one, as if none had been left.

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

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Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

...The vicissitude of mutations in the superior globe, are no fit matter for this present argument. It may be, Plato's great year, if the world should last so long, would have some effect; not in renewing the state of like individuals (for that is the fume of those, that conceive the celestial bodies have more accurate influences upon these things below, than indeed they have), but in gross. Comets, out of question, have likewise power and effect, over the gross and mass of things; but they are rather gazed upon, and waited upon in their journey, than wisely observed in their effects; specially in their respective effects; that is, what kind of comet, for magnitude, color, version of the beams, placing in the reign of heaven, or lasting, produceth what kind of effects.
There is a toy which I have heard, and I would not have it given over, but waited upon a little. They say it is observed in the Low Countries (I know not in what part) that every five and thirty years, the same kind and suit of years and weathers come about again; as great frosts, great wet, great droughts, warm winters, summers with little heat, and the like; and they call it the Prime. It is a thing I do the rather mention, because, computing backwards, I have found some concurrence.....

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

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Group/Deano,

There is another quote, more contemporary, although I don't know who penned or
said it is "everything old is new again," and Francis Bacon's essays have certainly
withstood the test of time, but one must still know how to read between the lines:..

Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

Solomon saith, There is no new thing upon the earth. So that as Plato had an imagination, That all knowledge was but remembrance; so Solomon giveth his sentence, That all novelty is but oblivion. Whereby you may see, that the river of Lethe runneth as well above ground as below. There is an abstruse astrologer that saith, If it were not for two things that are constant (the one is, that the fixed stars ever stand a like distance one from another, and never come nearer together, nor go further asunder; the other, that the diurnal motion perpetually keepeth time), no individual would last one moment. Certain it is, that the matter is in a perpetual flux, and never at a stay. The great winding-sheets, that bury all things in oblivion, are two; deluges and earthquakes. As for conflagrations and great droughts, they do not merely dispeople and destroy. Phadton's car went but a day. And the three years' drought in the time of Elias, was but particular, and left people alive. As for the great burnings by lightnings, which are often in the West Indies, they are but narrow. But in the other two destructions, by deluge and earthquake, it is further to be noted, that the remnant of people which hap to be reserved, are commonly ignorant and mountainous people, that can give no account of the time past; so that the oblivion is all one, as if none had been left.

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

Solomon saith, There is no new thing upon the earth. So that as Plato had an imagination, That all knowledge was but remembrance; so Solomon giveth his sentence, That all novelty is but oblivion. Whereby you may see, that the river of Lethe runneth as well above ground as below. There is an abstruse astrologer that saith, If it were not for two things that are constant (the one is, that the fixed stars ever stand a like distance one from another, and never come nearer together, nor go further asunder; the other, that the diurnal motion perpetually keepeth time), no individual would last one moment. Certain it is, that the matter is in a perpetual flux, and never at a stay. The great winding-sheets, that bury all things in oblivion, are two; deluges and earthquakes. As for conflagrations and great droughts, they do not merely dispeople and destroy. Phadton's car went but a day. And the three years' drought in the time of Elias, was but particular, and left people alive. As for the great burnings by lightnings, which are often in the West Indies, they are but narrow. But in the other two destructions, by deluge and earthquake, it is further to be noted, that the remnant of people which hap to be reserved, are commonly ignorant and mountainous people, that can give no account of the time past; so that the oblivion is all one, as if none had been left.

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Group/Deano,

...Deano said maybe one should head for the hills "but
this, too, shall pass." South America has many problems,
including the ash deposits from the Chilean volcano, and
some predict this will cause a food shortage there, too,
beside the obvious quality of air issues. If the poles do
shift the southern hemisphere may end up being hit with
more of a sudden deluge than the northern part, or vice
versa, we'll have to wait and see what the Comet brings.

Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

...The vicissitude of mutations in the superior globe, are no fit matter for this present argument. It may be, Plato's great year, if the world should last so long, would have some effect; not in renewing the state of like individuals (for that is the fume of those, that conceive the celestial bodies have more accurate influences upon these things below, than indeed they have), but in gross. Comets, out of question, have likewise power and effect, over the gross and mass of things; but they are rather gazed upon, and waited upon in their journey, than wisely observed in their effects; specially in their respective effects; that is, what kind of comet, for magnitude, color, version of the beams, placing in the reign of heaven, or lasting, produceth what kind of effects.
There is a toy which I have heard, and I would not have it given over, but waited upon a little. They say it is observed in the Low Countries (I know not in what part) that every five and thirty years, the same kind and suit of years and weathers come about again; as great frosts, great wet, great droughts, warm winters, summers with little heat, and the like; and they call it the Prime. It is a thing I do the rather mention, because, computing backwards, I have found some concurrence.....

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Mike,

The one thing, though, that shouldn't hit South America are the wars. Not big time, at least.

Brazil is a huge exporter of food, the largest in the world, and one of their federal Ministers recently stated that Brazil could double its food output from one year to the next, (and they are doing it).

And just the Amazon River has more fresh water than all of North America combined, inclusing the Great Lakes. Can you believe it?

But still, you can't just walk into a foreign language and culture and expect to have a nice life. Brazilians, from any class or economic strata, are more like gypsies and Arab traders when it comes to money dealings, real estate, et cetera, and not like, for example, Germans.

But we are getting off topic. I don't even remember how this started.

Anyway, hang in there, Chief.

Dean

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--- In [email protected], mm48ny@... wrote:

Group/Deano,

...Deano said maybe one should head for the hills "but
this, too, shall pass." South America has many problems,
including the ash deposits from the Chilean volcano, and
some predict this will cause a food shortage there, too,
beside the obvious quality of air issues. If the poles do
shift the southern hemisphere may end up being hit with
more of a sudden deluge than the northern part, or vice
versa, we'll have to wait and see what the Comet brings.

Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

...The vicissitude of mutations in the superior globe, are no fit matter for this present argument. It may be, Plato's great year, if the world should last so long, would have some effect; not in renewing the state of like individuals (for that is the fume of those, that conceive the celestial bodies have more accurate influences upon these things below, than indeed they have), but in gross. Comets, out of question, have likewise power and effect, over the gross and mass of things; but they are rather gazed upon, and waited upon in their journey, than wisely observed in their effects; specially in their respective effects; that is, what kind of comet, for magnitude, color, version of the beams, placing in the reign of heaven, or lasting, produceth what kind of effects.
There is a toy which I have heard, and I would not have it given over, but waited upon a little. They say it is observed in the Low Countries (I know not in what part) that every five and thirty years, the same kind and suit of years and weathers come about again; as great frosts, great wet, great droughts, warm winters, summers with little heat, and the like; and they call it the Prime. It is a thing I do the rather mention, because, computing backwards, I have found some concurrence.....

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Group/Deano,

...Deano said maybe one should head for the hills "but
this, too, shall pass." South America has many problems,
including the ash deposits from the Chilean volcano, and
some predict this will cause a food shortage there, too,
beside the obvious quality of air issues. If the poles do
shift the southern hemisphere may end up being hit with
more of a sudden deluge than the northern part, or vice
versa, we'll have to wait and see what the Comet brings.

Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

...The vicissitude of mutations in the superior globe, are no fit matter for this present argument. It may be, Plato's great year, if the world should last so long, would have some effect; not in renewing the state of like individuals (for that is the fume of those, that conceive the celestial bodies have more accurate influences upon these things below, than indeed they have), but in gross. Comets, out of question, have likewise power and effect, over the gross and mass of things; but they are rather gazed upon, and waited upon in their journey, than wisely observed in their effects; specially in their respective effects; that is, what kind of comet, for magnitude, color, version of the beams, placing in the reign of heaven, or lasting, produceth what kind of effects.
There is a toy which I have heard, and I would not have it given over, but waited upon a little. They say it is observed in the Low Countries (I know not in what part) that every five and thirty years, the same kind and suit of years and weathers come about again; as great frosts, great wet, great droughts, warm winters, summers with little heat, and the like; and they call it the Prime. It is a thing I do the rather mention, because, computing backwards, I have found some concurrence.....

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Group/Deano,

There is another quote, more contemporary, although I don't know who penned or
said it is "everything old is new again," and Francis Bacon's essays have certainly
withstood the test of time, but one must still know how to read between the lines:..

Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

Solomon saith, There is no new thing upon the earth. So that as Plato had an imagination, That all knowledge was but remembrance; so Solomon giveth his sentence, That all novelty is but oblivion. Whereby you may see, that the river of Lethe runneth as well above ground as below. There is an abstruse astrologer that saith, If it were not for two things that are constant (the one is, that the fixed stars ever stand a like distance one from another, and never come nearer together, nor go further asunder; the other, that the diurnal motion perpetually keepeth time), no individual would last one moment. Certain it is, that the matter is in a perpetual flux, and never at a stay. The great winding-sheets, that bury all things in oblivion, are two; deluges and earthquakes. As for conflagrations and great droughts, they do not merely dispeople and destroy. Phadton's car went but a day. And the three years' drought in the time of Elias, was but particular, and left people alive. As for the great burnings by lightnings, which are often in the West Indies, they are but narrow. But in the other two destructions, by deluge and earthquake, it is further to be noted, that the remnant of people which hap to be reserved, are commonly ignorant and mountainous people, that can give no account of the time past; so that the oblivion is all one, as if none had been left.

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

Of Vicissitude of Things
by Francis Bacon

Solomon saith, There is no new thing upon the earth. So that as Plato had an imagination, That all knowledge was but remembrance; so Solomon giveth his sentence, That all novelty is but oblivion. Whereby you may see, that the river of Lethe runneth as well above ground as below. There is an abstruse astrologer that saith, If it were not for two things that are constant (the one is, that the fixed stars ever stand a like distance one from another, and never come nearer together, nor go further asunder; the other, that the diurnal motion perpetually keepeth time), no individual would last one moment. Certain it is, that the matter is in a perpetual flux, and never at a stay. The great winding-sheets, that bury all things in oblivion, are two; deluges and earthquakes. As for conflagrations and great droughts, they do not merely dispeople and destroy. Phadton's car went but a day. And the three years' drought in the time of Elias, was but particular, and left people alive. As for the great burnings by lightnings, which are often in the West Indies, they are but narrow. But in the other two destructions, by deluge and earthquake, it is further to be noted, that the remnant of people which hap to be reserved, are commonly ignorant and mountainous people, that can give no account of the time past; so that the oblivion is all one, as if none had been left.

http://www.westegg.com/bacon/vicissitude-of-things.html
(link to entire essay, supra)

Mike, NYC

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