Greetings to everyone. I'm a believer in the Hollow
Earth for a number of reasons. The main one being,
various tales, "myths", and matter-of-fact statements
from every part of the globe, in total agreement with
each other, and this despite insurmountable obstacles in
both religious and philosophical points of view. There
can't be that many liars in history and why would they
pick such a crazy lie. If all of them were lying, it
would surely constitute the grandest conspiracy ever
perpetrated, crossing millenia of history and countless
cultures, not to mention how they would communicate this
lie between vast oceans and language barriers.
I'm particularly interested in the part that secret
societies play in all this. Like the stories of certain
Masonic Temples being built on top of entrances. I'm
told this is true of some Mormon (Masonic) Churches as
well. And I'm sure everyone has heard of the underground
bases at various military installations in Nevada, New
Mexico etc. Most of the Delta forces that run these
facilities, and intelligence in general, are high
ranking masons so they probably had first hand knowledge
of where the location of these tunnels were located -
the story goes that the tunnels were already there, and
they moved in and set up shop.
I'm aware of Blavatsky's map of the tunnels in South
America which resides at the Theosophical headquarters,
and the Rosicrucian connection. But does anyone have any
knowledge of exactly what they know and are witholding?
Have they been communicating with the inhabitants of the
inner earth for centuries as the evidence seems to
suggest?
Terry, This intriques me too, the Knights Templar connection. Churches,
Castles and monasteries commandeer all the ancient holy pagan sites, some in
obscure and remote areas, which were portals and/or tunnel entrances to an
'otherworld' domain. They seem to have been privy to the Mystery School's
esoteric knowledge, preserved from Egyptian times through these secret
brotherhoods. Either they have misused and corrupted the ancient wisdom and
rites, to manipulate and control society, or they have protected the Secrets
of the Ages from the uninitiated. I think they are on Satan's payroll,
making holy places very unholy, but I'm still puzzled? Hazel
I'm a Mormon and I can guarantee you that Mormons and Masons have virtually
nothing to do with each other, and finding a Mormon Mason is like finding a
Mormon atheist. There are some similarities between our temple rituals and
the Masonic rituals for the same reasons that there are doctrinal
similarities between us and other Christian religions, such as Catholicism.
Ultimately, both Mormon and Masonic rituals derive from the same source. The
Masonic rituals are remnants of the original temple rituals from antiquity,
and theirs are a perversion of those true temple rituals. A Mormon would be
more inclined to view Masons and their practices as a less obvious, deeper
layer of Satan's clever imitation of the true order of things.
Further, we do not build temples or church buildings on entrances to the
hollow earth. That's nonsense. The hollow earth theory is as obscure and
laughable to Mormons as it is to the rest of mainstream society. The
difference, however, is that Mormons tend to be more open-minded when
entertaining the possible mysteries of God. For example, if God tucked away
the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel in the hollow earth, it wouldn't surprise us.
They are prophesied to return from the "north countries" in miraculous
fashion. And in such a scenario, I'm of the opinion that the leadership of
the Mormon church will be the governing body who escorts our lost brethren
back. I'm also of the opinion that if this scenario is to play out, our
leaders don't even know about it yet. And if our leaders had been clued in
to the hollow earth, we'd all know about it because keeping a secret is
impossible for a Mormon.
I don't want argue with anyone's religion. And I'm sorry
if I offended your beliefs. However, I don't know how
you can state that its nonsense that a Mormon church can
be built on a cave entrance. Utah is full of cave
entrances. Keeping a secret is not impossible for any
human, Mormon or not. Its not only possible its a fact
of life for us mere mortals on this hollow earth.
No offense to anyone of LDS faith, but according to ex-LDS
researcher "Branton" and DOZENS of other people, the main
LDS Temple in Salt Lake is built above or on top of a
"top-secret" subterranean structure which is at least six levels
deep, and perhaps deeper. This is NOT connected to the hollow
earth theory, at least not directly, but IS connected to other
subterranean mysteries. The Masonic connection exists
because BOTH Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, along with
many of their original followers, were Master Masons. The
similarities there go beyond mere coincidence.
But this is the case with other religious organizations as well.
For more information on all the details of this, including the
subterranean/Masonic connection, read the latest book from
David Icke, called "Children of the Matrix." It's available at Amazon.com or from www.hiddenmysteries.com.
In order to properly assimilate this information, though, a reader
will definitely have to step back and take a very objective look at
the data presented.
Terry, I've found that whenever I start slagging the masons, someone pops up
saying, indignantly, that they ARE one, and it's all just a bit of
cammeraderie amongst the lads. So now I'm more careful and ask them what
their 33% Masters get up to? And they haven't a clue!! I think they worship
Moloch! Hazel
Motti, truth is truth, and if someone declares Scottish Rite Freemasonry is
at the heart of global conspiracy, I as a Scot, would have to put my
sensibilities aside and face facts. (Look at the Scottish masons in
parliament?) As for perpetuating a lie...I watched a programme last night
exposing the moon landing (1969) as an elaborate hoax staged at Area 51. The
evidence was irrefutable and NASA (need another seven astronauts) are STILL
denying it. They also disposed of, in suspicious circumstances, about a
dozen of their own cosmonauts to maintain the cover-up. That angered me
because these were intelligent men, scientists, pioneers, yet their lives
were worth nothing. As for Mormons, the only problem I have with them is
their polygamy, it would be OK if polyhusbandry was permitted too..lol! But
there's definately something going on in Utah, some say 'Dreamland' was
transferred there after it became a focus of attention at Groom Lake. Hazel.
This is a worthy point which we have hardly touched on in this list.
A while back we investigated the Rosacrucians, but we didn't get too
far. If I remember correctly, we concluded that the HE seemed to be
in their tradition, by the way.
But you are right about other secret societies comandeering ancient
sites of importance. The Vatican did this, who know what ancient
knowledge that they have in their basement vaults. And the Mecca?
Same thing.
Malta is full of tunnels and caverns. I wonder if they were propped
up by undergrounders, cavern worlders.
But how to investigate? A secret is a secret, right?
You're willing to embrace practically any nonsensical theory while ignoring
the truth. Icke's full of it.
Blake
MOTTIMORPH wrote:
No offense to anyone of LDS faith, but according to ex-LDS
researcher "Branton" and DOZENS of other people, the main
LDS Temple in Salt Lake is built above or on top of a
"top-secret" subterranean structure which is at least six levels
deep, and perhaps deeper. This is NOT connected to the hollow
earth theory, at least not directly, but IS connected to other
subterranean mysteries. The Masonic connection exists
because BOTH Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, along with
many of their original followers, were Master Masons. The
similarities there go beyond mere coincidence.
But this is the case with other religious organizations as well.
For more information on all the details of this, including the
subterranean/Masonic connection, read the latest book from
David Icke, called "Children of the Matrix." It's available at Amazon.com or from www.hiddenmysteries.com.
In order to properly assimilate this information, though, a reader
will definitely have to step back and take a very objective look at
the data presented.
Hazel was right, this is exactly the point I was trying
to make. And maybe your right Dean a secret is a secret.
Perhaps one would have to join a secret society and go
through years of initiations to even be considered
worthy to know...I'm not about to do that anytime soon!
I though maybe there was a chance somebody in the group
had some inside knowledge in these matters.
I've investigated this for a while now. The only
straight forward answer I give on freemasonry is that
masonry's goal is the expediting of spiritual evolution.
The glorification, and deification of man is the heart
of masonry, with the eventual transformation into a
god-like superman. Their charitable works are only
secondary. They believe they have the power to "save"
themselves, and good karma is essential.
Subject: RE: [allplanets-hollow] Re: New Guy: Secret Societies?
Blake,
When it comes to questioning whether or not any of the religions which I
have practiced have been hijacked, I have come a long way. I used to think
that such things were all due to social upheaval and socialrevolution, but
now I wonder if a guiding hand isn't being imposed by other societies,
watchdog societies,maybe based underground. Actually, Etidorhpa mentions
such infiltration.
Terry, Unlike Blake, I don't think Icke is full of it, I think he's very
astute, that dosen't mean he's always right though, others could be
misleading him, (Sitchin) so we should continue to try and validate or
substantiate his claims, however outlandish they may seem. I see what he
calls, an action, reaction, solution scenario, ALL THE TIME in the media and
news. But bearing in mind the H.E. is above Top-Secret, it's part of the
conspirators agenda, so we need to investigate who they are, be they Masons,
Mormons or Martians! Hazel.
One thing that I did was add another example of gravity which doesn't
correspond to the density of mass:
" The fact that the majority of an orbs gravitational force is contained
within the first 50 miles or so of its crust can explain why celestial
bodies do not always exhibit gravity in relation to their size and mass.
From chapter four of The Awesome Life Force:
' It may be shocking to some readers to realize that a solid ball less than
150 miles in diameter would have a surface gravity approximately that of the
earth, and that many of the asteroids have earth gravity. Recent findings by
astronomers and astrophysicists indicate that this is indeed the case. The
scientists were shocked during 1978 and later when they discovered that some
of the asteroids have moons that revolve about them at a respectable
velocity. According to Newtonian concepts, this should be impossible since
the gravity effects of the asteroid would be much too feeble. It is
understandable why this monumental finding has not been given much
publicity. Nevertheless, the truth has the habit of rearing its ugly head
when least wanted and expected. An account of this interesting discovery was
revealed over radio Station KCRL, Reno, Nevada on the evening of January 20,
1981.'"
The Error of Mass, by David Pratt, is a nice resource in this regard. He
explains the shortcomings of the Newtonian, mass-related concept of gravity,
especially in regards to the Hollow Earth Theory: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/gravity.htm