"Mormon" criticisms and answers debate

I must add to this lengthy and detailed debate two, I think, important thoughts:

  1. Matthew 7:16 "Ye shall know them by their fruits..."

  2. Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Probably not the best analogy, but moves towards the point... That is not at all to say that I think Joseph Smith, Jr. merits being thrown out (eg, using the colloquial and inappropriate "bathwater" comparison - this is quite markedly the contrary; only illustrationally used), but I would say that there is demonstrable and tremendously historically factual value in The Book of Mormon in, of and by itself. One must read it with more historical and non-compartmentalized thinking. If one looks at information about its origin and locations (including it itself being buried semi-near to Rochester, New York) and dissects various aspects of it we can obtain tremendous value that many "Mormons" (wrong to call yourself after a prophet who compiled a book; much better name for modern followers of Christ: latter-day saints - and the Book of Mormon truly and powerfully witnesses of Christ; it also does not contain the "deep doctrine" that you seem to take issue with @Branton777 since your problems predominantly stem from the Bible) themselves do not truly wish to know. Coming to truth often must be obtained by putting off preconceptions and false teachings grown from fear instead of faith.

For example, @Branton777 this is an interesting topic wherein a video is shared that was produced by someone that is not a member of the main LDS sect, but still finds value in the Book of Mormon:

I believe there is more than sufficient evidence to assuage all of your criticisms and concerns regarding Joseph Smith, Jr. I don't believe that any Christian or anyone of any other faith would or could have problems with Joseph Smith, Jr. if they were to objectively look at the situation and dig through each concern sincerely.

Many latter-day saints I have and do know are no fans of members of the church in and around Utah and the west. There were and definitely are incredible problems that probably would be best discussed more privately if you wish, but yet still I hold to points #1 and #2 and I definitely have resolved all of my concerns (and probably your concerns) with Joseph Smith, Jr. and have come to highly value him as a person and as a teacher and prophet.

I would simply suggest that you try to open your mind to possibilities and discussion. That is how we can obtain truth and push our minds to reach beyond the current unfathomable depths of corruption of current society.