Very cool pictures! And yes, there is an English text available :-).
MaTa
Very cool MaTa. Thanks.
They say the caves are large enough for ten thousand people.
I am very curious how the air is moved around in subterranean communities.
Do the engineers build with the caves in a manner, that allows for air
events?
Greg
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MaTa,
I while ago I mentioned that I would look up, in an old book which I
have, some comments about an indian tribe in the Dakotas which lived
at the entrance to some caves in a secluded area. I went and got the
book.
it doesn´t say much.The tribe is the Arapahoe. The area is in the
hills near the Little Big Horn river. It was described as a secluded
valley, with sheer walls all around and a narrow, ravine-type
entrance, something like that. Inside, a landmark named " Rainbow
Rock " was mentioned, and a cave entrance.
the Arapahoe blew up the cave entrance with dynamite. There are no
definite proofs of an entrance to a cavern world at that spot, but
the geology of the valley, which is described almost as a sheer sink,
the secretive nature of the location, and the fact that pasasage
through the cave was cut off, make me suspicious.
Do you know anything about Arapahoe reservations or folklore?
I think that one of the most interesting pieces of information that I
have come up with has to do with the fact that the name Cherokee
means " cave people." And they are originally from the TAG area where
so many caves and caverns exist: Tennessee, Alabama and Georgia.
DD
Hi MaTa,
I went to Turkey, Anatolia this March and visited the underground
city of Derinkuyu. Very interesting ! All of Kapadokia is absolutely
fascinating.
Maya
Thanks Dean,
I have looked and have not found much on the Arapaho. There were
nomadic and most of the information out there seems to be centered in
Wyoming. Here' the closest I can find to the Big Horn/Rainbow Rock.
Big Horn - Arapaho
http://www.bighorns.com/BHCCCounties/Johnson/defaultHistorical.asp
Fort Phil Kearny
Fort Phil Kearny was built to protect travelers
on the Bozeman Trail. It was
named after a
popular Union general killed in the Civil War. Enclosing 17
acres, the fort wall was
8 feet high, 1,496 feet in
length, and tapered in width from 600 feet on the north to 240
feet on the south.
During its two year
existence, the Fort was the focal point of a violent war
between the U.S. Army and
the Sioux, Cheyenne, and
Arapaho Indians opposed to intrusions into the last great
hunting grounds on the
Northern Plains. Fort Phil
Kearny was abandoned by the Army in August 1868 and burned
soon afterwards by
the Cheyenne.
Indian Art Rock Cave
Indian Art Rock Cave is located in the heart of the Hole in
the Wall Country.
Seventeen prehistoric rock
drawings including a large warrior figure dominate this
inspiring cave. The cave is
located on Bureau of Land
Management lands.
Hole-In-The-Wall
Located in a lush valley between the Red Wall and the Big Horn
Mountains, the
Hole in the Wall is
associated with such names as Butch Cassidy, the Sundance Kid
and the Wild
Bunch who frequented the
area while evading the law.
The actual Hole-in-the-Wall is located at the head of a deep V
in the red wall cliffs.
The Hole from the top
is a steep funnel, leading across a cliff and down, where a
large, triangular boulder
could be pulled across to
block and close the trail. (limited access, private land)
Arapaho lore:
Pygmy Demons
Indian legends of the Arapahoe, Sioux, Cheyenne, and Crow tell of
"tiny people eaters"
who stand 20 inches tall. This legend
was supported when an actual Pygmy person was found mummified in a
local cave. The
Pygmy mummy was brought to town and
shown to various people. Over the years the pygmy mummy has brought
bad luck and
omens to those who possessed it. The
Indian people still warn others to beware of the "tiny people eater"
as they are rumored to
still live a hidden life in the mountains
and high places of Wyoming. Such a 'pygmy' was found in the Pedro
Mountains by two
gold miners. Theyburrowed into a
natural pocket in the granite rock and found, on a ledge, a 19 inch
mummy. The mine
came to be called the 'Little Man', as a
result.
Hole in the Wall
The place where outlaws met up. Jesse James, Butch Cassidy,
Sundance Kid, and
many other notorious outlaws hid there.
Hole in the Wall refers to both a specific place and an area. The
area is in the southern
Big Horn Mountains and consists of
dramatic geologic uptilts and folds, with pockets of forests of the
north slopes and small
streams. The specific place is in the
canyon of the Middle Fork of the Powder River, in Johnson County, just
north of the
Natrona County line. It is a wall that juts out
into a dramatic 1,000 foot deep canyon. The wall has a 'hole', or
natural cavern in it.
http://www.wisp.k12.wi.us/schools/pjja/States/Wyoming/bradandtyler/myt
h.html
I'll post seperately on what I have found on the Cherokee/TAG area.
There's much information there!
MaTa
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