Geysers near Mars South Pole

I must admit that I was stumped by these photos as well.
It reallyyy looked like something that resembles geysers:

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12/nonmaps/M08/M0803500.gif
http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12/images/M08/M0803500.html

It wasn't until I reviewed them with my neighbor that things
became more clear to me.

Everyone that is "seeing" geysers are viewing it as if the light
source is on the left. If you scan down to near the bottom, where
the large dark patches are, it becomes rather obvious that the
light can't be coming from the left.

The light must be coming from upper right even though much of the
photo makes it appear like the light is reallyyyy coming from the
left.

I think this will clear up things for many when it's realized that
the light source is only on the upper right or there are multiple
light sources with one on the left as well. Since we all probably
agree(?) that there is only one light source (in this case the sun)
then it would make sense that the source is on the upper right.

This being the case, non of these objects, then, have a geyser
like appearance.

I was kicking myself earlier today for quite a while for not
figuring this out sooner. :frowning:

Anyone else having lightbulb moments now?

Jeff

--- In [email protected], Jeff Frohwein <jeff@d...>
wrote:

Everyone that is "seeing" geysers are viewing it as if the light
source is on the left. If you scan down to near the bottom,

where

the large dark patches are, it becomes rather obvious that the
light can't be coming from the left.

I don't think this negates the geyser theory, or possibility at all.
But it IS a good point. If they are not geysers, are they parallel
gouges? Walls or ramps (due to the "tapering" at one end)?
Pretty linear, whatever they are. Geysers would be more logical
in terms of "natural" phenomena as an explanation. Otherwise,
the pesky adage about "straight lines or geometry" in nature
comes up....It just doesn't happen, with the possible exception of
some types of crystal formation.

Thanks for pointing this out though....Good food for thought, and
even more to consider.

BTW, the original article at the URL I referenced you all to about
this was by Richard Sauder, who also is the author of a book
called "Underground Bases and Tunnels."

Best,

--Mike

Michael Mott wrote:

--- In [email protected], Jeff Frohwein <jeff@d...>
wrote:

> Everyone that is "seeing" geysers are viewing it as if the light
> source is on the left. If you scan down to near the bottom,
where
> the large dark patches are, it becomes rather obvious that the
> light can't be coming from the left.

I don't think this negates the geyser theory, or possibility at all.
But it IS a good point. If they are not geysers, are they parallel
gouges? Walls or ramps (due to the "tapering" at one end)?

Parallel walls, ramps & gouges is what mainly appears to me.

Pretty linear, whatever they are. Geysers would be more logical
in terms of "natural" phenomena as an explanation. Otherwise,
the pesky adage about "straight lines or geometry" in nature
comes up....It just doesn't happen, with the possible exception of
some types of crystal formation.

I would probably agree that geysers would be an easier explanation.
I can't even guess a cause for this, other than crystal formations
as you already mentioned.

Thanks for pointing this out though....Good food for thought, and
even more to consider.

BTW, the original article at the URL I referenced you all to about
this was by Richard Sauder, who also is the author of a book
called "Underground Bases and Tunnels."

Interesting. I forwarded this same letter (light source from upper
right) to Richard Sauder last night. It looks like I already discarded
his response but it was basically the following:

** Jeff, thanks for writing. I will be updating my site soon.

Whatever that means...

Jeff

What if the geysers consist of a black substance like oil or something. And with wind coming from the left the "shadows" are black snow??

Just a thought,

Frode

Members,

Anomalous Polar warming has been one of the strongest pieces of evidence in
favor of the Hollow Earth Theory. Often it gets brushed aside and attributed
to air currents from the Equator or to volcanic activity under the Arctic
ocen or beneath the ground.

Warm air currents traveling the stratosphere from the equatorial regions is
not possible because the atmosphere becomes frigid at high altitudes.
Volcanic activity cannot explain the fact the the polar sea above the New
Siberian Islands is typically ice free up to about 79* latutude. If this
phenomenon were due to the volcanic sierra which underlies and cuts across
the Arctic Ocean, then the rest of the Polar basin would have to be just as
ice free, and this is not the case.

I'm attaching some comments by Lt. Greely about the Northen portion of
Greenland being fertile and grassy even though the mid portion of Greenland,
much further South, is covered by a thick layer of ice.

The one explanation which corresponds to all phenomena is that of a polar
opening wherefrom warm air emanates.

Late,

Dharma/Dean

Dr. James De Meo wrote an interesting justification for the existence of
ether which I posted a while ago on my site:
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index11.html
It is called A Critical Review of the Shankland Analysis.

Here is a paragraph or two from Chapter Eight of The Ultimate Reality. Mr.
Cater calls on the Hermetic axiom " as above, so below," to logically deduce
some of the qualities of, the nature of, ether. It makes sense to learn
about something by studying something similar to it.

From Chapter Eight:

Since the axiom suggests that the nature of the ethers can be deduced by
certain aspects of our surroundings, the most logical one to consider is the
property of a perfect gas. Although there must be significant differences
between a gas and the ethers, there must be certain properties that they
have in common. An object can travel through free space at a steady velocity
and encounter no measurable resistance. Yet, it apparently does encounter
resistance during an acceleration. A similar pattern occurs during passage
through a gas or atmosphere but to a more pronounced degree. When inertia
isn't a major factor, a hollow object, for example, will experience great
resistance from the gas if there is a great and sudden change III velocity.
After it attains a given velocity and this velocity remains constant, the
resistance is greatly reduced. Therefore, it is logical to assume that the
inertia exhibited by a material object is due to the presence of a subtle
medium that possesses some of the properties of a perfect gas. If there were
no medium present, it would be somewhat difficult, if not impossible, to
account for inertial properties.

The analogy of, and similarity between, the behavior of a near massless
hollow ball in a gas and that of a body of great mass in free space is an
application of this all-important hermetic Axiom. As will become
increasingly evident, further application of this line of thought leads to
extremely fruitful results. It has been established; that at the same
temperature and pressure, all gases have the same number of molecules per
unit volume. This means the average dis-tance between molecules from center
to center is the same for all gases, regardless of their molecular weight.
Since they exert the same pressure, it follows that the average kinetic
energy of the molecules is the same for each gas. This means the average
velocity of a gas molecule varies inversely as the square root of its
molecular weight.

Applying these conclusions to the ethers, it follows that the aver-age
distance between ether particles is a constant, as well as is their average
kinetic energies, regardless of the ethers considered. Since particles of
matter have inertia, ether particles must have inertia as well. The reasons
a body traveling through a gas at constant velocity encounter resistance,
yet the ethers offer none, will become apparent later. Ether particles, and
atoms, or molecules must also have certain properties that are similar. It
will be shown later that atoms and molecules have zones of attraction as
well as repulsion. It is vital that ether particles also possess such zones
with regard to each other. The tonal effects around atoms are the result of
the interactions of the fundamental particles, the electrons and protons.
Therefore, ether particles also consist of fundamental particles similar in
structure to electrons and protons. This is a manifestation of the Law of
Duality. Basically, there are only two kinds of fundamental particles,
con-trary to the viewpoint of particle physicists.

It follows that the particles of the highest ethers correspond to our
hydrogen atom and the basic particles that comprise it are the basic
ingredients of all the ethers in all the realms that concern us. The lower
ether particles correspond to the largest and most complex molecules.

It will soon be shown here that ether particles combine to form particles
known as photons of light. This combining, or sticking together, corresponds
to the cohesive forces of atoms and molecules which makes possible the
formation of matter. It is the zonal forces around atoms and molecules that
are responsible for these cohesive forces. Likewise, tonal forces around
ether particles enable photons to evolve. 'these same forces enable photons
to combine to form the fundamental particles of each realm, as will be
described in more detail later.

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Here's that part from Mike Mott's book about genetic manipulation. Some of
you have already seen it, but there are some new folks on the list.

What I wanted to say is this- that there is a company which has paid the
government of Iceland for genetic information of the population. A person
can deny to participate, but somehow or other, genetic info is turned over.
I don't remember exactly what they do, maybe they take a blood sample or
something. But I wonder if the real motivation for this doesn't have its
origin underground.

Remember that I have something from his book up at:
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index12.html

" Similarly the sorcerer Merlin, himself said to be the half-human result of
the union of an underworld being and a mortal woman, covered Uther Pendragon
with the likeness of his enemy Gorlois, Duke of Cornwall, so that he might
impregnate his rival's wife Ygraine and produce the child which would become
Arthur, the mythical king of Britain. Uther wanted pleasure; Merlin had an
agenda of his own. It's meaningful that Merlin's father was said to have
been an incubus, or a demon/underworld entity capable of having intercourse
with human women and impregnating them. Merlin had to bring together the
desired genetic partners, and this seems to have been simply underworld
manipulation of human history and politics as usual, as far as subterranean
interference in human affairs go. The fact that Uther and Arthur's standard
was a crimson dragon is more meaningful than might at first seem apparent,
as shall be seen. Further examination of Arthurian legend, based as it is on
much older Celtic myth and archetypes, seems to indicate that it may in fact
be a thinly-veiled fable concerning two warring supernatural or underworld
forces, one more inimical than the other, vying for control or
breeding-rights of the localized human gene-pool. This battle for dominance
is perhaps symbolized by the warring dragons, one red and one white, and the
manipulation of Merlin's emotions and lust by Nimue, the Lady of the Lake.
Nimue is synonymous with the cavern-dwelling Hindu Naga-folk, who dwell in
palaces beneath the floors of deep lakes and oceans, and she is also very
similar to the daughter of the Japanese Dragon-King, who falls in love with
a human trespasser and removes herself from her undersea cavern-palace, long
enough to leave a hybrid child--and perhaps political influence--in the
surface world. Nimue represents the ancient matriarchal powers which seem to
go hand-in-hand with underworld beings and deities, but there may be a more
concrete reason for this recurrence of matriarchal themes, buried in the
mists of time (as will be seen later). As for Merlin, outcast by humans and
his own underworld tribe alike, this provides an explanation for his
fascination and lust for, and willingness to obey and work with, the Lady of
the Lake. Merlin not only had his own subterranean domain, but he was
eventually imprisoned there by the treachery of Nimue, once his usefulness
at genetic expertise and manipulation had been overshadowed by his attempts
to affect events in the human realm. The direction of civilization--i.e.,
"Camelot--" may have taken a better route than it would have otherwise (if
the invading "Saxon," or continental, forces had not been routed), but it
was still designed to keep interloping genes out of the local pool (that of
Britain), and keep the population rich in certain desired characteristics.
Nimue's hand-picked (intentionally bred) proxy was on the throne, at least
for a while. Arthurian myth and romance, with roots lost in the antiquity of
pre-Roman Britain and derived from the Welsh Mabinogion and other Celtic
traditions, seems to be desperately trying to burst forth with an ancient
and mysterious message which is cloaked in more historically-recent,
post-Roman, Christianized symbolic constructs.

The careful monitoring and maintenance of bloodlines or genetic groups seems
to have been a major preoccupation of faerie folk and other subterranean bei
ngs, as well as of ancient gods and demons. Ireland also is filled with
tales of fairy lovers: relationships between "Milesians" or ancient Irish
human beings, and the Tuatha de Danaan, who were the underworld gods of old
Ireland who have since dwindled into the Gentry, Sidhe (Shee), or Fairies.
One encounter of this "pagan reality" was purportedly witnessed by St.
Patrick himself, described in "The Colloquy of the Ancients;" while speaking
with Caeilte, a member of the Fianna (a legendary group of Irish heroes),
Patrick is astonished to observes a beautiful fairy woman coming out of the
cave of Cruachan, wearing a green mantle and a golden crown. Although the
fairy woman is youthful and beautiful, Caeilte is an ancient and withered
old man. When Patrick asks about this, Caeilte answers:
"She is of the Tuatha De Danaan who are unfading...and I am of the sons of
Mil (human Irish), who are perishable and fade away."

The question is, of course, at what price to humanity is this "longevity" or
youthfulness purchased?
It would seem that it was always in the interest of these subterranean,
older races or species to keep a relatively pure genetic pool of human
beings near at hand for their own use or convenience. Recent scientific
evidence from Ireland, reported by Reuters News Service and the science
journal Nature, bears this out.

According to these reports, a group of geneticists at Trinity College in
Dublin, led by Daniel Bradley, have determined that the oldest "pure" racial
bloodline in Europe still exists in the West of Ireland, the furthermost
western edge of Europe. According to the report (March 22, 2000), Bradley
and his colleagues have used surnames along with the male Y chromosome in
order to reconstruct a 1,000-year-old genetic map of Ireland, demonstrating
that the Irish are truly representative of a "race" which is distinct from
other Europeans--a race apart.

Bradley stated to the press that "When you look at this old genetic
geography of Ireland what you find is that in the West (of the Emerald Isle)
we are almost exclusively of one type of Y chromosome."
The Y chromosome, passed down exclusively from father to son, is an object
of interest and study to geneticists, as it accentuates differences between
populations. According to Bradley:
"It is inherited as a unit so the information you get from it is of a
special type."
The researchers examined the Y chromosomes of men with Gaelic surnames from
the western-most province of Connaught, finding that 98.3 percent had a
group of genes on the Y chromosome known as haplogroup 1.
Bradley observed, "When you look at Gaelic surnames they are different in
frequency of Y chromosome types from non-Gaelic surnames."

Furthermore, more than 98 percent of men with Gaelic names in the western
half of the island had haplogroup 1, but numbers dropped significantly on
the eastern side of Ireland, whereas there's a gradient of haplogroup 1
across Europe which starts at almost zero in the Far East and grows to
almost 100 percent in the west of Ireland. According to Bradley and his
team, this gives a snapshot of what the original ancient racial type of
Europe once looked like, before successive invasions and influxes by other
racial or genetic groups.

Was this what Nimue and Merlin were seeking to protect from "Saxon"
contamination? What better place to maintain a genetically-pure control or
access group or groups than on two large islands like Britain and Ireland?
But the British Isles are not the only group of islands with such a
combination of relative isolation, and legends of strange interbreeding
activities."

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From:
Dharma/Dean

Here is something else that I got from Mke's book, about torment and torture
underground, not to be confused with the hollow portion. I wonder if the
bondage and submission stuff doesn't have a strange origin, too.

Any comments on this?

" The Book of Enoch relates the plight of the one who has been cast out and
down, in Chapter XXIX, verse 4:
And I threw him out from the height with his angels, and he was flying in
the air continually above the bottomless.
In Chapter IX, verse 1, is the approximate geographic location as well as a
description:
"And those two men (angels) led me up on to the Northern side (of the
planet?), and showed me there a very terrible place, and there were all
manner of tortures in that place: cruel darkness and unillumined gloom, and
there is no light there, but murky fire constantly flameth aloft, and there
is a fiery river coming forth, and that whole place is everywhere fire, and
everywhere there is frost and ice, thirst and shivering, while the bonds are
very cruel, and the angels fearful and merciless, bearing angry weapons,
merciless torture, and I said:
"Woe, woe, how very terrible is this place."
Is this the place that the "faeries," the sidhe, and the "dragons" fear, as
their eventual destination? The New Testament book of Revelation
(Apocalypse) 5:13 leaves no doubt from the Judeo-Christian point of view
that subterranean races exist beneath both land and sea:
"And every creature (race or people) which is in heaven, and on the earth,
and under the earth, and such as are in the sea,...."
Other New Testament verses leave no doubt as to the existence of a hidden
race or races, or species:
"No man in heaven, in earth, neither under the earth was able to open the
book, nor look thereon." Rev. 5:13.
"That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and
things in earth, and things under the earth;" --Philippians 2:10."

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