Hi Dean,
Sorry for asking, but can you explain to me how geysers, magma and volcanos fit into the hollow earth theory ?
Thanks,
Maya
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Hi Dean,
Sorry for asking, but can you explain to me how geysers, magma and
volcanos
fit into the hollow earth theory ?
Thanks,
Maya
Maya,
These are basically surface phenomena. In regards to volcanoes and magma,
one point is that they can't originate at the supposed core of the planet.
By the time any lava made it to the surface, it would have cooled along the
way. And if we accept the concept of Newtonian gravity related to the
density of mass, then the extemem pressure would close any pourous route
which the lava might take anyway.
The thing to explain is the source of heat. Once you explain that, whether
the heat expresses itself as magma or a geyser becomes more of a detail.
Here is how Mr. Cater explains it:
[ Cater on volcanoes ]:
" The academic explanation for volcanic activity is somewhat vague. Since
the temperature of molten lava disgorged by volcanoes is so great, the
orthodox viewpoint is that the molten lava would have to originate at levels
hundreds of miles below the surface surface. It has not been made clear how
lava could find its way to the surface from such depths, since the Earth is
supposedly a solid ball."
This is interesting because in a solid Earth model, there would be such
immense pressures at great depths that any opening for lava to flow through
would be closed shut. And if the lava actually originated at the depths
which they say, then it would cool by the time it reached the surface.
Mr. Cater attributes the heat which accounts for volcanic activity to the
soft particles which penetrate the Earth much easier than regular photons.
He tells us:
" This process [ redistribution/penetration of low frequency particles ]
continues as the radiation from the Sun penetrates the Earth's crust. The
lower frequencies are readily transformed into infrared radiations which
produce increases in temperature. ... Most of the soft particles that
disintegrate during this interval are comprised of photons below the visible
range of the electromagnetic spectrum." As we have just mentioned in
relation to earthquakes, it is the soft particles concentrated along plates
and fault lines which act as condensers, i.e., build up and store
electricity/heat. This then, is one mechanism which contributes to the
heating of rock and the production of lava. Also, the book Etidorhpa
explains that large deposits of sodium, which interact with water which
overflows from underground lakes, are a major cause of volcanic activity. "
The idea is that soft particles accumulate along fault lines and build up an
electric charge similar in nature to a condenser, and that this is how
continental drift and earthquakes are powered.
I have an article called A Comprehensive, Hollow Earth Geological Model on
this page, third article down.
http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index8.html
Are you much on geology or just a vulcan?
Dharma/Dean
Maya Oz,
Actually, the forth article down is Etidorhpa on volcanoes.
Dharma/Dean
List Members,
Polar warming is a theme that I always work on. It is easy-to-understand
evidence, and good reading. Although it is deductive evidence, and not
exactly direct evidence, it is still good evidence. Here is some old stuff,
a list of different types of polar warming evidence, which I got off the web
a long time ago, I don't know who compiled it. Check it out.
On my web site I have some Arctic stuff posted:
http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index5.html
I alway stell people that Dr. nansen's book, Farthest North, is one of the
best Arctic, hollow-earth books around. It is just chock full of suggestive
evidence, although he didn't know how to interpret it. I have some notes on
the book whereby I give the page number of every anomaly which is useful for
the HE conclusion. If anyone buys his book, I'll send the Nansen notes so
that the person knows where to look for the interesting evidence.
Nansen's book, Farthst North, is available in almost any bookstore for about
$12.00. It is that easy to get.
Here is the piece on Polar warming:
Certainly one of the three greatest pioneers of Polar exploration was Dr.
Fridtjof Nansen, the acclaimed Norwegian scientist and Arctic voyager.
Perhaps the most interesting expedition ever conducted in the Arctic area is
chronicled in Nansen's 679 page two-volume work whose complete title is:
FARTHEST NORTH: 'Being the Record of a Voyage of Exploration - the Ship
"Fram" 1893-96 and of a Fifteen Months Sleigh-Journey by Dr. Nansen and
Lieut. Johansen'. On page 120, when the 13 man crew had already reached
almost 77*N. latitude, Nansen observes "It was a strange feeling to be
sailing away north in the dark night to unknown lands, over an open, rolling
sea, where no ship, no boat had been before. We might have been hundreds of
miles away in more southerly waters, the air was so mild for September in
this latitude...We see 'nothing but clean water', as Henriksen answered from
the crow 's nest when I called up to him...'They little think at home in
Norway just now that we are sailing straight for the Pole in clear
water'...I have almost to ask myself if this is not a dream. One must have
gone against the stream to know what it means to go with the stream."
Another of the major contributors to Arctic knowledge was U.S. Army
Lieutenant (later General) Adolphus Greely. Like other Arctic voyages, the
Lady Franklin Bay expedition encountered the truly bitter cold conditions in
the lower portion of the Arctic region, but less harsh climate as they
neared 80* latitude and especially mild weather beyond the 80th parallel. On
page 369, when their party had attained the 81st latitude while map- making
for the Army on Ellesmere Island, Greely comments "At that time a high warm
wind was blowing from the interior, and the temperature was considerably
above 40*(5*C.)." His use of the word 'interior' was-more profoundly
accurate than he realized. An example of how dramatically the warm winds
from the Interior affect the far north exterior is demonstrated in this
passage from page 192, when the winds had for a long while been from the
south: "At 10 P.M., February 16th, the mercurial thermometers thawed out,
after having been frozen continuously for sixteen days and five hours. This
is the longest time on record during which mercury has remained frozen."
Dr. I.I. Hayes, with the schooner United States, wrote of his far north
voyage in THE OPEN POLAR SEA. They were utterly bewildered by the
inexplicable increase in temperature whenever the high Arctic wind sustained
from the north. While stalled by a strong persistent wind out of the north
for much of the first two weeks of November, Hayes noted that after the
great initial masses of ice had been driven past them, there were none more
to replace them. He adds, "November 13: Worse and worse. The temperature has
risen again, and the roof over the upper deck gives US once more a worse
than tropic shower...November 14: The wind has been blowing for nearly
twenty four hours from the northeast, and yet the temperature holds on as
before...I have done with speculation. A warm wind from the 'mer de
glace'...makes mischief with my theories, as facts have heretofore done with
the theories of wiser men." Ships' surgeon for the 'Advance' and 'Rescue',
Dr. Elisha Kent Kane recorded his extensive Arctic experience in ARCTIC
EXPLORATIONS IN SEARCH OF SIR JOHN FRANKLIN, experiences which culminated
near the 82nd parallel. The expedition progressed as far north as was
practical in their ships and then when the amount of ice rendered additional
progress impossible or at least unsafe, they continued their poleward
journey on foot with sledges. But as with other Arctic explorers before and
since, they were amazed to eventually find further advancement thwarted by
the gradual encroachment of an open polar sea. He writes ''It is impossible
in reviewing the facts which connect themselves with this discovery, the
melted snow upon the rocks, the crowds of marine birds, the limited but
still advancing vegetable life, the rise of the thermometer in the water,
not to be struck by their bearing on the question of a milder climate near
the pole. To refer them all to the modification of temperature induced by
the proximity of open water is only to change the form of the question; for
it leaves the inquiry unsatisfied. What is the cause of the open water?"
About 130 years later we have these remarks from Russian explorer Vladimir
Snegirev in his 1985 ON SKIES TO THE NORTH POLE: "On May 9 they crossed the
86th parallel...It was a strange thing indeed: you might have thought that
as they approached the Pole the ice would become thicker, stronger, more
solid, but in reality it was just the other way around. The closer they came
to their goal, the more often they encountered open water..."
Writing about Admiral Richard Byrd's first journey to Antarctica in BEYOND
THE BARRIER, Eugene Rodgers records the extraordinary affect that a wind
persisting from the Pole has: "Temperature swings were so violent that, only
three days after the record low, the reading rose to 15 above. 'That makes a
range of 87 degrees, as much as the annual range over most of the eastern
U.S.'..."
On page 144 of his book Nansen exclaims "Today we had the same open channel
to the north, and beyond it open sea as far as our view extended. What can
this mean?" When in the 79th parallel, he records on page 197 "...bringing
northerly wind. It is curious that there is almost always a rise of the
thermometer with these stronger winds...A south wind of less velocity
generally lowers the temperature, and a moderate north wind raises it."
After having reached the very far northerly position of 86* latitude, Nansen
observes on page 391 "I was inconvenienced for the first time by the heat;
the sun scorched quite unpleasantly." Page 407: "...last night I could
hardly sleep for heat." Several months later Nansen and Johansen were
heading back to the Fram, but were still above the 81st parallel, when he
writes on page 527 "Fancy, only 12*(21.5*Fahr.) of frost in the middle of
December! We might almost imagine ourselves at home..."
When his group was at the 81st parallel, Greely records on page 370 "In its
whole extent the valley was barren of snow, and in most places was covered
with a comparatively luxurient vegetation." At latitude 81*49' Greely writes
on page 372 "I there caught a butterfly, and saw three skuas two
bumble-bees, and many flies..." Page 374: "While at this camp, No. 3, we
obtained but little sleep, owing to the large swarms of flies...On rising at
2 A.M. the temperature was found to be very high, 48*(8.9*C.), with a
minimum of 47*(7.8*C.) since the preceding evening ...In this lake also
there were many small minnows..." Page 376: "Corporal Salor brought in with
his willows two small pieces of unworked pine wood...Near by I discovered
the former site of an old summer encampment of the Eskimos." Page 377: " The
surroundings of the encampment were marked by luxurient vegetation of grass,
sorrel, poppies, and other plants." Page 378: " The sky was partly covered
with true cumulus clouds, quite rare in Arctic heavens...the temperature was
high and the gay yellow poppies and other flowers drew to them gaudy
butterflies ...he could well imagine himself in the roaring forties instead
of eight degrees from the geographical pole." Page 379: "At this point, and
in its immediate vicinity, a large number of butterflies were seen...facing
Ruggles River, three abandoned Eskimo huts..." Page 383: "Among other pieces
of wood was a pole, nine feet long and about two inches in diameter, of a
hard, close-grained, coniferous wood, probably fir or hard pine.'' Page 385:
"...a bumble-bee and a 'devil's darning-needle'. Butterflies were very
numerous, as many as fifty being seen during the day...The weather during
the day was excessively hot, and we suffered extremely. The attached
thermometer of the aneroid barometer, which was carried always in the shade,
stood at 74*(23.3*C.)...The day's march carried us farther along the shores
of Lake Hazen than I had reached in May, and now a new, undiscovered country
was gradually opening to our view."
By far the three most significant categories of evidence proving the
validity of United States patent 1096102 are
1) warmer climate in Polar region,
2) eccentric behavior of the compass, and
3) the peculiar polar lights known respectively as the Aurora Borealis and,
in Antarctica, the Aurora Australis.
Although the brevity of this article prevents all but a cursory examination
of the voluminous available evidence, there are several other categories of
proof as well. These include:
4) a dramatic increase in plant and animal life at the far north, also
extreme northward bird migrations at the onset of Winter;
5) stones, wood, dust, pollen, and mud found both on and imbedded in ice
bergs;
6) anomalous radio wave behavior in polar region;
7) gravitational increase measurable at the Polar Curve, sufficent to cause
a significant segregation of salt water and fresh water;
8) strange situation of the far north Eskimo, a people with a completely
unique language and whose oral tradition states that they originated from
much farther north in a warm land of perpetual daylight;
9) polar sea depth and strong southgoing current in the high Arctic;
10) the perfectly fresh mammoths found encased in the ice
A) if, as the official government position postulates, these elephants died
during a climate shift from tropical to frigid, it is logical to inquire why
didn't these shivering elephants simply 'pack their trunks' and move south?
or
B) if this alleged climate shift happened suddenly, then why aren't these
'flash frozen' pacyderms found alongside the inevitable 'flash frozen'
thousands of acres of forest in which they lived?;
Members,
I am going to throw back out some other quotes on Polar warming. I posted
some of this stuff a while ago, but I just want to bring everybody up to
snuff on Polar warming. Then I think I'll get into Arctic mammalian wildlife
where it shouldn't be, and what that means:
" Thursday, January 18th. The wind that began yesterday had gone on blowing
from ... S.S.E., S.E., and E.S.E. [ But now he anticipates a change ] Let us
hope it is not bringing a Northerly wind ... It is curious that there is
almost always a rise of the thermometer with these stronger winds, today it
rose to 13* F below zero
( - 25* C ). A south wind of less velocity generally lowers the temperature,
and a moderate North wind raises it."
[ If the opeining were at 84.4* North, while Nansen was at 79* North, then a
North wind would be coming out of the interior, which would account for a
slightly warmer temperature.
OBSERVATIONS OF DR. HAYES
We may now turn to the observations of one of Dr. Kane's companions, Dr. I.
I. Hayes, who took a prominent part in the expedition and who wrote his
account of it under the significant title, " The Open Polar Sea." Dr. Haves
went up Kennedy Channel, along the coast of Grinnell Land almost as far
north as 82 degrees. Long before he had reached that point, however, he
began to notice the strange contradictions that the arctic regions present.
He passed into the Arctic circle on July 30, and was soon in the middle of a
vast field of ice-bergs. He says of this experience:
"The air was warm almost as a summer's night at home, and yet there were the
ice-bergs and the bleak mountains, with which the fancy, in this land of
green, hills and waving forests [that is to say, America], can associate
with nothing but cold repulsiveness. The sky was bright and soft, and
strangely inspiring as the skies of Italy. The bergs had wholly lost their
chilly aspect."
That is sufficientlv remarkable --surely indicating, according to what other
explorers have already told us, in these pages, that the wind must have been
from the north for the few days previous that would have brought some of the
mildness from the actual polar regions down. If the reader is not yet
convinced of that let him watch Dr. Haves as he proceeds further toward that
region. Conviction will follow.
MILD TEMPERATURES FOUND
By November 2, Dr. Hayes had reached Cape Alexander, on the Greenland coast
( Grinnel Land forms the other coast of Kennedy Channel which the explorers
will soon reach ) at a latitude of a little over 78*. Here they weere hit by
a gale, strong enough to break up the ice and send it scudding away
Southwest. But Dr. Hayes is surprised by two things: Although the gale is
from the Northeast, the temperature has all the time been very mild- in
fact, it has never been below zero, and moverover, when the gale had driven
the ice away, there was no more ice from the North to take its place.
WARMTH WHERE COLD WAS EXPECTED
By November 13th the party 4has proceeded a little further north, and Dr.
Haves, believing as lie did that the pole was a solid ice-cap, is sorely
puzzled by the actual phenomena with which he is met. Here is his diary, the
first entry, "Worse and worse," referring to the fact that snow had been
falling, which made it very disagreeable on the ship
"November 13: Worse and'worse. The temperature has risen again, and the roof
over the upper deck gives us once, more a worse than tropic shower. The snow
next the ice grows more slushy, and this I ayn more than ever puzzled to
understand, since I have found today that the ice, two feet below the
surface, has a temperature of twenty degrees; at the surface it is nineteen
degrees, and the snow in contact with it is eighteen degrees. The water is
twentynine degrees.
"November 14. The wind has been blowing for nearly twenty-four hours from
the northeast, and yet the temperature holds on as before. At ten o'clock
this evening it was four and a half degrees. � I have done with speculation.
A warm wind from the `mer de glace,' and this boundless reservoir of
Greenland frost, makes, mischief with my theories, as facts have
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heretofore, done with the theories of wiser men. As long as the wind came
from the sea I could find excuse for the unseasonable warmth."
It is a pity that the open-minded spirit shown there is not more evident
among other scientists. Dr. Haves would have tried to explain that warmth if
he could possibly have done so. But when the wind that brought it came no
longer from a sea that was itself above freezing point but came from a land
that was covered with ice, he was simply at his wits' end and frankly
acknowledged that he could not account for the phenomenon. So he left it an
open question. And it has really been an open question ever since-but it is
at last closed.
OPEN WATER AND WARMER
Now here is testimony of the most unimpeachable character and it is as plain
as it is unimpeachable. There is no misunderstanding it. We find Greely ten
degrees farther north than Lieutenant Ray, finding not merelv that the winds
and waters were warmer than further south but that this warmth was so
constant that the ground thawed to a depth of thirty feet. We find that
whenever water flowed from the north pole it was warmer than when it flowed
from the south. We find that there is no sea of " ancient ice " as Nares and
explorers before him thought but that there is an open polar basin with
strong currents. Now if that open water that stopped Greely were only a
small sea that did not extend very far, there would be no such currents in
it as are described above. Those currents testify to the fact that here is a
sea which does extend to the northern regions. Of course Greely could not
imagine how those warm currents could come from the north and he could not
account for the strong currents in the sea. But our reader, who remembers
the conformation of the polar regions, can easily see how these things would
be. The water insid the polar orifices,
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warmed by the inner sun, would naturally form a very strong current as it
met the cooler waters of the outside polar regions. Quite as naturally that
water would keep clear from ice the great polar sea. Ice from the south
could only come up to a certain point, the point where Greely and other
discoverers found " open water ", and after that the sea would get warmer
and warmer.