Fw: PUZZLING

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!

PUZZLING

This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.

In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano.

As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president.

We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue.

It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."

It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.

Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.

Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.

When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?
Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

It certainly is very; very strange...

This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"

As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.

He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?

Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University ...

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever."

Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."

Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .

Some other interesting questions..

Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?

Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?

It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.
The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived.
No wonder all his records are sealed...

Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.

Vernon G. Atkinson
[email protected]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Vernon,

I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.

Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.

Hang in there.

Dean

···

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@...> wrote:

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!

PUZZLING

This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.

In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano.

As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president.

We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue.

It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."

It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.

Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.

Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.

When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?
Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

It certainly is very; very strange...

This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"

As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.

He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?

Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University ...

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever."

Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."

Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .

Some other interesting questions..

Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?

Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?

It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.
The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived.
No wonder all his records are sealed...

Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.

Vernon G. Atkinson
vernon_atkinson@...

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dean

I have no idea what is on topic and what is not. When I get something that looks interesting I post it

If the people on your site are complaining about what I send then I will just quit sending anything to your site. It is a lot easier to just not send you anything than it is to try and cull out everything I would like to send.

Sorry if I have offended anyone.

Vernon G. Atkinson
[email protected]

···

--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dean D <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Dean D <[email protected]>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:15 AM

Vernon,

I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.

Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.

Hang in there.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@...> wrote:

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!

PUZZLING

This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.

In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano.

As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president.

We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue.

It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."

It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.

Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.

Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.

When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?
Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

It certainly is very; very strange...

This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"

As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.

He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?

Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University ...

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever."

Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."

Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .

Some other interesting questions..

Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?

Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?

It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.
The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived.
No wonder all his records are sealed...

Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.

Vernon G. Atkinson
vernon_atkinson@...

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You haven't Vernon...Keep our ribs well bandaged.

···

From: Vernon Atkinson <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2011, 2:31
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING

Dean

I have no idea what is on topic and what is not. When I get something that looks interesting I post it

If the people on your site are complaining about what I send then I will just quit sending anything to your site. It is a lot easier to just not send you anything than it is to try and cull out everything I would like to send.

Sorry if I have offended anyone.

Vernon G. Atkinson
[email protected]

--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dean D <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Dean D <[email protected]>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:15 AM

Vernon,

I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.

Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.

Hang in there.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@...> wrote:

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!

PUZZLING

This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.

In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano.

As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president.

We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue.

It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."

It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.

Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.

Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors? It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.

When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?
Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

It certainly is very; very strange...

This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"

As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him.

He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?

Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University ...

Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him.

Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever."

Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him."

Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .

Some other interesting questions..

Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?

Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?

It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.
The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived.
No wonder all his records are sealed...

Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.

Vernon G. Atkinson
vernon_atkinson@...

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Vernon,

Perhaps I should write you offline. I don't mind speaking about list business online, but I don't know how you feel about being made an issue of. I'll go ahead, though, because the group members are all good neighbors and there is really no one who is critical towards the other members. I think that we can speak about things openly.

You don't offend per se, and the things you post are worthy in and of themselves. But of course you have to discriminate as to what is on topic and what isn't because people open themselves up to our posting for a reason; due to the fact that this is a public gathering, you have to treat the other list members as polite company, it's just considerate to take advantage of their attention to insert other issues. We all work hard to cultivate members into this very important understanding of the inner world and we don't want to alienate them by offending political or religious feelings.

In the past, when I have suggested broadening the topic, the reaction hasn't been in favor; the fear is that the hollow earth topic would get lost and drowned out.

Sometimes I feel as if we should start a sister list for other alternative topics, but the FantasticReality list is already there as an alternative-type of list which doesn't only deal with inner worlds. I don't know exactly how much politics they want on that list, but they seem to discuss a real broad range os topics; in fact, such a broad range that they hardly discuss inner worlds anymore, which is what we don't want to see happen on this list. (The hollow earth deserves a sanctuary or a homeland) At any rate, several of the well-known and likeable personalities from this list are on the FantasticRealities list, too, posting away.
   
For now, at least, let's continue to observe a topic guideline:

On topic = hollow earth + cavern worlds + alternative astronomy

If anyone has an opinion about the way the list is run, they can write about it online, or to me offline.

Dean

···

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@...> wrote:

Dean
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I have no idea what is on topic and what is not. When I get something that looks interesting I post it Â
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If the people on your site are complaining about what I send then I will just quit sending anything to your site. It is a lot easier to just not send you anything than it is to try and cull out everything I would like to send.Â
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Sorry if I have offended anyone.Â

Vernon G. Atkinson
vernon_atkinson@...

--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dean D <deandddd@...> wrote:

From: Dean D <deandddd@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:15 AM

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Vernon,

I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.

Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.

Hang in there.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@> wrote:
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> As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Â
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> We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue. Â
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> It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."Â
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> When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?Â
> Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.Â
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> It certainly is very; very strange... Â
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> This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"Â
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> As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. Â
>
> George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him. Â
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> He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?Â
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> Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him. Â
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> Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever." Â
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I've really enjoyed reading Vernon's thoughts on Obama etc
but i have to agree with you Dean on keeping the Hollow Planets topic sacred.

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________________________________
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2011, 5:25
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING

Vernon,

Perhaps I should write you offline. I don't mind speaking about list business online, but I don't know how you feel about being made an issue of. I'll go ahead, though, because the group members are all good neighbors and there is really no one who is critical towards the other members. I think that we can speak about things openly.

You don't offend per se, and the things you post are worthy in and of themselves. But of course you have to discriminate as to what is on topic and what isn't because people open themselves up to our posting for a reason; due to the fact that this is a public gathering, you have to treat the other list members as polite company, it's just considerate to take advantage of their attention to insert other issues. We all work hard to cultivate members into this very important understanding of the inner world and we don't want to alienate them by offending political or religious feelings.

In the past, when I have suggested broadening the topic, the reaction hasn't been in favor; the fear is that the hollow earth topic would get lost and drowned out.

Sometimes I feel as if we should start a sister list for other alternative topics, but the FantasticReality list is already there as an alternative-type of list which doesn't only deal with inner worlds. I don't know exactly how much politics they want on that list, but they seem to discuss a real broad range os topics; in fact, such a broad range that they hardly discuss inner worlds anymore, which is what we don't want to see happen on this list. (The hollow earth deserves a sanctuary or a homeland) At any rate, several of the well-known and likeable personalities from this list are on the FantasticRealities list, too, posting away.

For now, at least, let's continue to observe a topic guideline:

On topic = hollow earth + cavern worlds + alternative astronomy

If anyone has an opinion about the way the list is run, they can write about it online, or to me offline.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@...> wrote:

Dean
Â
I have no idea what is on topic and what is not. When I get something that looks interesting I post it Â
Â
If the people on your site are complaining about what I send then I will just quit sending anything to your site. It is a lot easier to just not send you anything than it is to try and cull out everything I would like to send.Â
Â
Sorry if I have offended anyone.Â

Vernon G. Atkinson
vernon_atkinson@...

--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dean D <deandddd@...> wrote:

From: Dean D <deandddd@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:15 AM

Â

Vernon,

I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.

Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.

Hang in there.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> PUZZLING
> Â
> This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.
>
> In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano. Â
>
> As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Â
>
> We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue. Â
>
> It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."Â
>
> It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.Â
>
> Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.Â
>
> Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors?  It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.Â
>
> When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?Â
> Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.Â
>
> It certainly is very; very strange... Â
>
> This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"Â
>
> As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. Â
>
> George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him. Â
>
> He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?Â
>
> Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University ...Â
>
> Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him. Â
>
> Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever." Â
>
> Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that.  Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class?  Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him." Â
>
> Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .Â
>
> Some other interesting questions..Â
>
> Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?Â
>
> Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?Â
>
> It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.Â
> The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived. Â
> No wonder all his records are sealed...Â
>
> Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.
> Â
> Vernon G. Atkinson
> vernon_atkinson@
>
>
> Â
> Â
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

who knows maybe Obama is from underground...just joking.

···

________________________________
De: The Humaning <[email protected]>
Para: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Enviado: miércoles, junio 22, 2011 7:48 A.M.
Asunto: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING

I've really enjoyed reading Vernon's thoughts on Obama etc
but i have to agree with you Dean on keeping the Hollow Planets topic sacred.

________________________________
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2011, 5:25
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING

Vernon,

Perhaps I should write you offline. I don't mind speaking about list business online, but I don't know how you feel about being made an issue of. I'll go ahead, though, because the group members are all good neighbors and there is really no one who is critical towards the other members. I think that we can speak about things openly.

You don't offend per se, and the things you post are worthy in and of themselves. But of course you have to discriminate as to what is on topic and what isn't because people open themselves up to our posting for a reason; due to the fact that this is a public gathering, you have to treat the other list members as polite company, it's just considerate to take advantage of their attention to insert other issues. We all work hard to cultivate members into this very important understanding of the inner world and we don't want to alienate them by offending political or religious feelings.

In the past, when I have suggested broadening the topic, the reaction hasn't been in favor; the fear is that the hollow earth topic would get lost and drowned out.

Sometimes I feel as if we should start a sister list for other alternative topics, but the FantasticReality list is already there as an alternative-type of list which doesn't only deal with inner worlds. I don't know exactly how much politics they want on that list, but they seem to discuss a real broad range os topics; in fact, such a broad range that they hardly discuss inner worlds anymore, which is what we don't want to see happen on this list. (The hollow earth deserves a sanctuary or a homeland) At any rate, several of the well-known and likeable personalities from this list are on the FantasticRealities list, too, posting away.

For now, at least, let's continue to observe a topic guideline:

On topic = hollow earth + cavern worlds + alternative astronomy

If anyone has an opinion about the way the list is run, they can write about it online, or to me offline.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@...> wrote:

Dean
Â
I have no idea what is on topic and what is not. When I get something that looks interesting I post it Â
Â
If the people on your site are complaining about what I send then I will just quit sending anything to your site. It is a lot easier to just not send you anything than it is to try and cull out everything I would like to send.Â
Â
Sorry if I have offended anyone.Â

Vernon G. Atkinson
vernon_atkinson@...

--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dean D <deandddd@...> wrote:

From: Dean D <deandddd@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:15 AM

Â

Vernon,

I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.

Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.

Hang in there.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> PUZZLING
> Â
> This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.
>
> In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano. Â
>
> As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Â
>
> We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue. Â
>
> It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."Â
>
> It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.Â
>
> Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.Â
>
> Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors?  It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.Â
>
> When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?Â
> Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.Â
>
> It certainly is very; very strange... Â
>
> This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"Â
>
> As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. Â
>
> George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him. Â
>
> He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?Â
>
> Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University ...Â
>
> Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him. Â
>
> Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever." Â
>
> Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that.  Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class?  Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him." Â
>
> Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .Â
>
> Some other interesting questions..Â
>
> Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?Â
>
> Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?Â
>
> It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.Â
> The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived. Â
> No wonder all his records are sealed...Â
>
> Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.
> Â
> Vernon G. Atkinson
> vernon_atkinson@
>
>
> Â
> Â
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Victor, I think he's from under a rock!

···

________________________________
From: victor sevigny <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2011, 13:11
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING

who knows maybe Obama is from underground...just joking.

________________________________
De: The Humaning <[email protected]>
Para: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Enviado: miércoles, junio 22, 2011 7:48 A.M.
Asunto: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING

I've really enjoyed reading Vernon's thoughts on Obama etc
but i have to agree with you Dean on keeping the Hollow Planets topic sacred.

________________________________
From: Dean D <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2011, 5:25
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING

Vernon,

Perhaps I should write you offline. I don't mind speaking about list business online, but I don't know how you feel about being made an issue of. I'll go ahead, though, because the group members are all good neighbors and there is really no one who is critical towards the other members. I think that we can speak about things openly.

You don't offend per se, and the things you post are worthy in and of themselves. But of course you have to discriminate as to what is on topic and what isn't because people open themselves up to our posting for a reason; due to the fact that this is a public gathering, you have to treat the other list members as polite company, it's just considerate to take advantage of their attention to insert other issues. We all work hard to cultivate members into this very important understanding of the inner world and we don't want to alienate them by offending political or religious feelings.

In the past, when I have suggested broadening the topic, the reaction hasn't been in favor; the fear is that the hollow earth topic would get lost and drowned out.

Sometimes I feel as if we should start a sister list for other alternative topics, but the FantasticReality list is already there as an alternative-type of list which doesn't only deal with inner worlds. I don't know exactly how much politics they want on that list, but they seem to discuss a real broad range os topics; in fact, such a broad range that they hardly discuss inner worlds anymore, which is what we don't want to see happen on this list. (The hollow earth deserves a sanctuary or a homeland) At any rate, several of the well-known and likeable personalities from this list are on the FantasticRealities list, too, posting away.

For now, at least, let's continue to observe a topic guideline:

On topic = hollow earth + cavern worlds + alternative astronomy

If anyone has an opinion about the way the list is run, they can write about it online, or to me offline.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@...> wrote:

Dean
Â
I have no idea what is on topic and what is not. When I get something that looks interesting I post it Â
Â
If the people on your site are complaining about what I send then I will just quit sending anything to your site. It is a lot easier to just not send you anything than it is to try and cull out everything I would like to send.Â
Â
Sorry if I have offended anyone.Â

Vernon G. Atkinson
vernon_atkinson@...

--- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dean D <deandddd@...> wrote:

From: Dean D <deandddd@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:15 AM

Â

Vernon,

I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.

Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.

Hang in there.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> PUZZLING
> Â
> This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.
>
> In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano. Â
>
> As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Â
>
> We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue. Â
>
> It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."Â
>
> It's virtually impossible to know anything about this fellow.Â
>
> Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.Â
>
> Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors?  It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.Â
>
> When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?Â
> Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.Â
>
> It certainly is very; very strange... Â
>
> This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"Â
>
> As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. Â
>
> George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him. Â
>
> He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?Â
>
> Nobody remembers Obama at Columbia University ...Â
>
> Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him. Â
>
> Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever." Â
>
> Nobody recalls him. Root adds that he was also, like Obama, Class of '83 Political Science, and says, "You don't get more exact or closer than that.  Never met him in my life, don't know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class?  Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, 'the macha' who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him." Â
>
> Obama's photograph does not appear in the school's yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia .Â
>
> Some other interesting questions..Â
>
> Why was Obama's law license inactivated in 2002?Â
>
> Why was Michelle's law license inactivated by court order?Â
>
> It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.Â
> The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived. Â
> No wonder all his records are sealed...Â
>
> Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.
> Â
> Vernon G. Atkinson
> vernon_atkinson@
>
>
> Â
> Â
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Whoops! I meant to say "it's just NOT considerate to take advantage of their attention to insert other issues".

Dean

···

--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <deandddd@...> wrote:

Vernon,

Perhaps I should write you offline. I don't mind speaking about list business online, but I don't know how you feel about being made an issue of. I'll go ahead, though, because the group members are all good neighbors and there is really no one who is critical towards the other members. I think that we can speak about things openly.

You don't offend per se, and the things you post are worthy in and of themselves. But of course you have to discriminate as to what is on topic and what isn't because people open themselves up to our posting for a reason; due to the fact that this is a public gathering, you have to treat the other list members as polite company, it's just considerate to take advantage of their attention to insert other issues. We all work hard to cultivate members into this very important understanding of the inner world and we don't want to alienate them by offending political or religious feelings.

In the past, when I have suggested broadening the topic, the reaction hasn't been in favor; the fear is that the hollow earth topic would get lost and drowned out.

Sometimes I feel as if we should start a sister list for other alternative topics, but the FantasticReality list is already there as an alternative-type of list which doesn't only deal with inner worlds. I don't know exactly how much politics they want on that list, but they seem to discuss a real broad range os topics; in fact, such a broad range that they hardly discuss inner worlds anymore, which is what we don't want to see happen on this list. (The hollow earth deserves a sanctuary or a homeland) At any rate, several of the well-known and likeable personalities from this list are on the FantasticRealities list, too, posting away.
   
For now, at least, let's continue to observe a topic guideline:

On topic = hollow earth + cavern worlds + alternative astronomy

If anyone has an opinion about the way the list is run, they can write about it online, or to me offline.

Dean

--- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@> wrote:
>
> Dean
> Â
> I have no idea what is on topic and what is not. When I get something that looks interesting I post it Â
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> --- On Mon, 6/20/11, Dean D <deandddd@> wrote:
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> From: Dean D <deandddd@>
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Fw: PUZZLING
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:15 AM
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> I empathize with you. However, do keep it on topic. There are some people who don't feel comfortable reading other types of material.
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> Alternative astronomy/planetology is on topic.
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> Hang in there.
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> Dean
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> --- In [email protected], Vernon Atkinson <vernon_atkinson@> wrote:
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> > THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE LIED TO OR DUPED!
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> > This is still puzzling.......& definitively unanswered.
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> > In a country where we take notice of many, many facets of our public figures' lives, doesn't seem odd that there's so little we know about our current president, Barack Obama. For example, we know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob pipe and was accused of adultery; Abe Lincoln never went to school; Jack Kennedy wore a back brace; Harry Truman played the piano. Â
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> > As Americans, we enjoy knowing details about our newsmakers, but none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president. Â
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> > We are all aware of the lack of uncontestable birth records for Obama; that document managing has been spectacularly successful. There are however, several additional oddities in Obama's history that appear to be as well managed as the birthing issue. Â
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> > It's interesting that no one who ever dated him has shown up. The charisma that caused women to be drawn to him so strongly during his campaign, certainly would in the normal course of events, leads some lady to come forward, if only to garner some attention for herself. We all know about JFK's magnetism, that McCain was no monk and quite a few details about Palin's courtship and even her athletic prowess. Joe Biden's aneurisms are no secret; look at Cheney and Clinton, we all knows about their heart problems. Certainly Wild Bill Clinton"s exploits before and during his White House years, were well known. That's why it's so odd that not one lady has stepped up and said, "He was soooo shy..." or "What a great dancer."Â
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> > Who was the best man at his wedding? Start there. Then check groomsmen.Â
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> > Then get the footage of the graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors?  It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or lived with him.Â
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> > When did he meet Michele,, and how? Are there photos there? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released? Who in hell voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010? Doesn't this make you wonder?Â
> > Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama's past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?? Not one person has ever come forward from his past.Â
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> > This should be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Have you seen a movie named "The Manchurian Candidate"Â
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> > As insignificant as each of us might be, someone with whom we went to school will remember our name or face; someone will remember we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us. Â
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> > George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questions why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus. Stephanopoulos also was a classmate of Obama at Columbia -- the class of 1984. He says he never had a single class with him. Â
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> > He is such a great orator; why doesn't anyone in Obama's college class remember him? Why won't he allow Columbia to release his records?Â
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> > Looking for evidence of Obama's past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there... but none remembered him. Â
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> > Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983. In 2008, Root says of Obama, "I don't know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don't have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia , ever." Â
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> > It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 alias.Â
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> > Please continue sending this out to everyone. Somewhere, someone had to know him in school...before he "reorganized" Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention.
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