Members,
Attached/clipped above is a piece from Mike Mott's book, Caverns, Cauldrons
and Concealed Creatures, which can be found at;
http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/cartwebtv/af/hm01/index0.html
Mike-
What do you think of pasting that K Mart piece from your book for me, or
something appropriate? I'll put it up on my Abductions page.
Dharma/Dean
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Dean, you can link to it at the previous Hidden Neighbors URL
you used, if you want, or excerpt from it for use at your abduction
page (as long as a link and reference to the book is included, I
most definitely don't mind!) .
Hidden Neighbors can also be seen/linked to at this URL:
http://www.onelight.com/mott/hidden_neighbors%201.htm
--Mike
Members,
Here is a sample of the stuff from Mike Mott's book; you can see why I think
it is so appropriate. The underground abductions which are going on- IMHO-
really affect people's lives.
Dharma/Dean
THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME
Norman L. (his name changed at his request), a single father
living in the mountainous region of
North Alabama, is one person who can testify to the truth of
this continued intrusiveness. His
wife had become deeply involved in caving (spelunking), leaving
Norman and their toddler
daughter to care for themselves most of the time. The wife
became engrossed and fascinated
with the past-time of caving, and often reported to her husband
of seeing UFOs during some of
the expeditions made with her hard-partying friends,
multiple-day trips into remote and
sometimes almost-inaccessible areas near "wild" caves and pits.
The marriage began to
deteriorate for a variety of reasons, many of them traceable to
the obsession of the wife for
spelunking; and strange phenomena began to occur around the
house when the wife was
home, or on the rare outing with the family.
Around nine one evening this family of three paid a visit to a
local department store, one of the
type which incorporates "mart" into its name. This store was
located near a large ridge of
mountains which ran alongside the eastern edge of the town,
mountains which are
honeycombed with caves and pits. The oldest part of the town
itself is said to sit atop an
ancient network of caverns, around which many local legends
revolve. So husband, wife, and
child cruised the aisles of the supermarket, when both adults
became aware of an intense
sense of presence.
The back corner of the store was unusually dark, as if some of
the lighting were either dimmed
or out. At the end of an intersecting aisle a strange figure
lurked, literally leering at them as
they walked by. According to Norman L., this figure was
hideously malformed, in that he had no
discernable neck, almost no chin, misshapen ears and facial
features, and a decidely evil,
grimacing disposition. His eyes were squinted and piggish, his
head literally "squarish." His
rounded, hunched body was wrapped in very loose clothing,
primarily an immense flannel shirt
which hid the true contours of his body. His attitude was
definitely menacing as he transferred
his gaze from the man, to the child riding in the shopping cart.
He leaned forward as if to get a
better look.
Norman stepped forward defensively, even though he was filled
with an instinctive revulsion by
this being. He insists that the person they encountered wasn't
human, an opinion that his wife
at the time had concurred with. Norman's take on this strange
voyeur?
"He simply wasn't a human being. He looked human in a
fundamental, first-glance kinda way,
but he was something else. He had a strong air of evil and hate
about him. He actually looked
like a troll."
Upon seeing Norman's reaction, the creature slunk back into the
shadows of the aisle and was
soon left behind.
Over the next year, the marriage dissolved and ended. Norman
ended up with custody of the
daughter, and took her with him everywhere. One night they
visited a below-ground-level
toystore in a local multi-level shopping mall; with the
exception of the sales clerk standing near
the front of the store, they were the only people in the place.
Or so it seemed.
As his young daughter squatted to play with toys on the bottom
of the shelf, Norman became
aware of another presence. He turned to see a small child
slowing meandering down the aisle
toward them, seemingly a thin little girl of about five or six
years of age. Suddenly this "child"
made a quick move toward his daughter, and Norman scooped her up
and took several steps
back.
"It wasn't a little girl," he says. "It was wearing a dingy
yellow dress, had a girl's shoes and
socks on, and its hair looked loose on its head, like a straight
black wig, very artificial in
appearance--kind of like a "Prince Valiant (haircut)." Its skin
was abnormally pale, the eyes
wide-set and almost at the side of its head, 'wrapping around
the edge,' sort of. The eyes were
almond-shaped, turning up at the outer edges, but squinty, and
they were pure black or dark
brown. There were no whites to the eyes at all! They were like
ink."
Thinking that perhaps this being was an unsupervised, malformed
or mentally-handicapped
child, Norman took his daughter and moved over an aisle; the
little being followed them almost
immediately. This was repeated twice, but the being stood off, a
bit warier than before, still
staring fixedly at Norman's daughter. He picked her up and they
looked around the store for the
parent of the "disturbed child," but there was no other shopper
in the place. Aggravated,
Norman complained to the cashier at the front of the store,
asking that he have the parents of
the child come supervise "it."
The cashier reacted with complete surprise. "You and your
daughter are the only customers in
the store, sir," he said. A quick look determined that this was
in fact so, and no one had exited
by way of the only way of egress in the front of the business. A
quick look through the store by
both men failed to reveal the strange "child."
Over time, many additional facts came out, largely gleaned from
the daughter, who had been to
visit her mother upon occasion. The child was terrified to make
these visits, indicating that,
among other things, she had been taken into wild, dangerous
caves, leaned over pits (and
allegedly almost dropped into one, to luckily be caught by the
mother's boyfriend), and other
such insanity. Eventually the mother's visitations were
terminated completely, but this raises
the question of motivation and influence--what would lead a
mother to risk the life of her child in
such a callous, almost sacrificial way? The child also witnessed
UFO manifestations during
one of the caving trips with her mother. Since that time, the
girl has grown to be a happy and
healthy teen, and no further instances of this type of encounter
have troubled her, or her father.
First-hand accounts like this abound. Another account, also from
the mountains of east-central
Alabama, involves a group of children (now adults) who saw what
they termed "a leprechaun,"
following them through the woods one evening. Initially noticed
as he sat atop an outcropping of
mossy rock, this entity hopped down from his perch as the kids
passed, maintaining a
respectful distance, but he paralleled the children for miles,
scaring them badly. He was
described by the now-grown woman and two men as being some two
or three feet in height,
wearing green clothing, and looking quite sinister.
It's interesting to note that the TAG (a National Speleological
Society term) or
Tennessee-Alabama-Georgia region is considered to be one of the
most densely caverned
areas in North America. Many accounts of mysterious lights,
UFOs, livestock mutilations, and
strange deaths and disappearances have come from this region.
Tales of "haints" and
"boogers" abound in the hills and mountains, and some spelunkers
joke to cover up their fear
when they talk about "hodags," unseen cave entities which cut
rope or pull it up behind cavers
after a descent; drop or throw rocks and boulders; mislead with
mysterious noises; and create
other such strange occurences.
[snip]
I also live in Northern Alabama. I heard recently that there are over
3000 documented caves in Alabama alone. They are maped by GPS location.
Supposedly Jesse James? robbed one of the local banks and entered a cave
very close to the bank. He was able to get away by emerging from
another entrance/exit about 2 miles away.
The reason there are so many caves is because there is a lot of
limestone in this area. After many thousands of years of rain water
leaking into the ground, these caves are naturally formed by the
erosion of limestone. Some of the stalactite and stalagmite
formations are really awesome.
Jeff
Now that's some weird stuff! I think I need to get Mike's book.
The bizarre manifestations of entities ties in with John Keel's book "The
Mothman Prophecies" and hints at "demonic" source of origin for a lack of a
better term.
Sean,
I put up another narration about underground abduction, a Japanese legend,
at the top of my abductions page:
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index12.html
I put it at the top because I figured it was time give a new face to that
page.
DD
i myself am a prophet.. i have knowledge passed to me buy..humans from our future. the information has been 100 percent right so far... can you say that... they worked with my grand mother till she died.. now its me... see they can not mess with the history so it has to be some one from this time frame fearing a paradox in time.... so knowledge of future events have been passed down to me to try to intercede... to help the people in the future.... as there has already been a ripple in time... that will affect the future... when france detonated nukes in the ocean... deep down below in the deepest parts of the earth ocean.. where fissures run into canals witch run through ancient forests and desalinate the earths waters... then it moves through more canals in the earths crusts... and come up inland.. the earth scientists still have no knowledge of the affects and wont for about 50 more years... the water will surface in our wells and artesian springs world wide.. and will affect human DNA causing mutation and loss of human viability200 years from now the french leader who let this happen is known..in the future as the killer of millions jack cirac i am sure i spelled his name wrong but i am sure you know who i am talking about... the UFO,s a lot are from the future trying to restock human viability.. for a new beginning in the future.. while chatting with them and giving a DNA sample for them i could see the affects of the mutation they are undergoing... they are not aliens but our brothers and sisters... trying to save human kind... the reason their eyes are so big is because the earths ozone is depleted to dangerous levels and they have taken refuge in under ground cities the suns rays kills vegetation and blinds our relatives in the future they grow food in caves away from the harmful rays of the sun and live in under ground complexes..that's why they look pale in color lack of sunlight over the years has caused a change in the pigment of their skin their primary source of food is mushrooms that's a fact... si it would be a good idea to stock human dna from this time and keep it viable for the future.. that alone will help a lot about the radiation not much you can do for the next 10,000 years but our friends in the future will help take care of that.. so when you see a ufo and get probed its for a good cause to save mankind from our mistakes we made in this last 100 years
i myself am a prophet.. i have knowledge passed to me buy..humans from our future. the information has been 100 percent right so far... can you say that... they worked with my grand mother till she died.. now its me... see they can not mess with the history so it has to be some one from this time frame fearing a paradox in time.... so knowledge of future events have been passed down to me to try to intercede... to help the people in the future.... as there has already been a ripple in time... that will affect the future... when france detonated nukes in the ocean... deep down below in the deepest parts of the earth ocean.. where fissures run into canals witch run through ancient forests and desalinate the earths waters... then it moves through more canals in the earths crusts... and come up inland.. the earth scientists still have no knowledge of the affects and wont for about 50 more years... the water will surface in our wells and artesian springs world wide.. and will affect human DNA causing mutation and loss of human viability200 years from now the french leader who let this happen is known..in the future as the killer of millions jack cirac i am sure i spelled his name wrong but i am sure you know who i am talking about... the UFO,s a lot are from the future trying to restock human viability.. for a new beginning in the future.. while chatting with them and giving a DNA sample for them i could see the affects of the mutation they are undergoing... they are not aliens but our brothers and sisters... trying to save human kind... the reason their eyes are so big is because the earths ozone is depleted to dangerous levels and they have taken refuge in under ground cities the suns rays kills vegetation and blinds our relatives in the future they grow food in caves away from the harmful rays of the sun and live in under ground complexes..that's why they look pale in color lack of sunlight over the years has caused a change in the pigment of their skin their primary source of food is mushrooms that's a fact... si it would be a good idea to stock human dna from this time and keep it viable for the future.. that alone will help a lot about the radiation not much you can do for the next 10,000 years but our friends in the future will help take care of that.. so when you see a ufo and get probed its for a good cause to save mankind from our mistakes we made in this last 100 years
i myself am a prophet.. i have knowledge passed to me buy..humans from our future. the information has been 100 percent right so far... can you say that... they worked with my grand mother till she died.. now its me... see they can not mess with the history so it has to be some one from this time frame fearing a paradox in time.... so knowledge of future events have been passed down to me to try to intercede... to help the people in the future.... as there has already been a ripple in time... that will affect the future... when france detonated nukes in the ocean... deep down below in the deepest parts of the earth ocean.. where fissures run into canals witch run through ancient forests and desalinate the earths waters... then it moves through more canals in the earths crusts... and come up inland.. the earth scientists still have no knowledge of the affects and wont for about 50 more years... the water will surface in our wells and artesian springs world wide.. and will affect human DNA causing mutation and loss of human viability200 years from now the french leader who let this happen is known..in the future as the killer of millions jack cirac i am sure i spelled his name wrong but i am sure you know who i am talking about... the UFO,s a lot are from the future trying to restock human viability.. for a new beginning in the future.. while chatting with them and giving a DNA sample for them i could see the affects of the mutation they are undergoing... they are not aliens but our brothers and sisters... trying to save human kind... the reason their eyes are so big is because the earths ozone is depleted to dangerous levels and they have taken refuge in under ground cities the suns rays kills vegetation and blinds our relatives in the future they grow food in caves away from the harmful rays of the sun and live in under ground complexes..that's why they look pale in color lack of sunlight over the years has caused a change in the pigment of their skin their primary source of food is mushrooms that's a fact... si it would be a good idea to stock human dna from this time and keep it viable for the future.. that alone will help a lot about the radiation not much you can do for the next 10,000 years but our friends in the future will help take care of that.. so when you see a ufo and get probed its for a good cause to save mankind from our mistakes we made in this last 100 years
Thumper, you're not doing a very good job convincing me that you're "cool."
thumper is_cool wrote:
i myself am a prophet.. i have knowledge passed to me buy..humans from our
future. the information has been 100 percent right so far... can you say
that... they worked with my grand mother till she died.. now its me... see
they can not mess with the history so it has to be some one from this time
frame fearing a paradox in time.... so knowledge of future events have been
passed down to me to try to intercede... to help the people in the
future.... as there has already been a ripple in time... that will affect
the future... when france detonated nukes in the ocean... deep down below in
the deepest parts of the earth ocean.. where fissures run into canals witch
run through ancient forests and desalinate the earths waters... then it
moves through more canals in the earths crusts... and come up inland.. the
earth scientists still have no knowledge of the affects and wont for about
50 more years... the water will surface in our wells and artesian springs
world ! wide.. and will affect human DNA causing mutation and loss of human
viability200 years from now the french leader who let this happen is
known..in the future as the killer of millions jack cirac i am sure i
spelled his name wrong but i am sure you know who i am talking about... the
UFO,s a lot are from the future trying to restock human viability.. for a
new beginning in the future.. while chatting with them and giving a DNA
sample for them i could see the affects of the mutation they are
undergoing... they are not aliens but our brothers and sisters... trying to
save human kind... the reason their eyes are so big is because the earths
ozone is depleted to dangerous levels and they have taken refuge in under
ground cities the suns rays kills vegetation and blinds our relatives in
the future they grow food in caves away from the harmful rays of the sun
and live in under ground complexes..that's why they look pale in color lack
of sunlig! ht over the years has caused a change in the pigment of their
skin their primary source of food is mushrooms that's a fact... si it would
be a good idea to stock human dna from this time and keep it viable for the
future.. that alone will help a lot about the radiation not much you can
do for the next 10,000 years but our friends in the future will help take
care of that.. so when you see a ufo and get probed its for a good cause to
save mankind from our mistakes we made in this last 100 years
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just needed to know if you got the message i kept getting mailerdemons sorry if the message got you mad this was not my intention... to gain information was my path i set out on and to give information that will affect us all thanks for your time and again sorry if this has angered you. i have much more info that needs to get out,,,, this is the truth and i have had many encounters with UFO,s no one calls scallon a lier and he makes the history channel as a prophet his predictions are bogus i am speaking reality he speaks of polor shifting he is wrong my friends told me that the canals under the earths need to be re routed thus earth quakes will happen and water supplys will be re routed wells inland will dry up for a while this has to happen because of the raidoactive area in the pacific like vents in the oceans floors this will take place in another time zone withinn 50 years while this takes place it will seem like dooms day but its a new beginning
the earth will shake but not shift polar shifting..now in this time zone they have bases on the moon and other planets and are closely watching us...iam another nostradamas... if jesus stood before you and revieled himself would you believe.... yet he did exist thanks robert mackey seward alaska
Hi,
The east central area of Alabama and the west central area of Georgia comprise what is known as the Troup-Heard Corridor (THC) :
http://www.ufomind.com/place/us/ga/lagrange
Besides the hundreds of UFO sightinings that have taken place in this area, there have been abductions http://isur.com/articles/john_int.html
and reports of such critters as Bigfoot and demons
http://www.isur.com/articles/corridor.html .
GSU
From: "Dean" [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]
To:
just needed to know if you got the message i kept getting mailerdemons sorry if the message got you mad this was not my intention... to gain information was my path i set out on and to give information that will affect us all thanks for your time and again sorry if this has angered you. i have much more info that needs to get out,,,, this is the truth and i have had many encounters with UFO,s no one calls scallon a lier and he makes the history channel as a prophet his predictions are bogus i am speaking reality he speaks of polor shifting he is wrong my friends told me that the canals under the earths need to be re routed thus earth quakes will happen and water supplys will be re routed wells inland will dry up for a while this has to happen because of the raidoactive area in the pacific like vents in the oceans floors this will take place in another time zone withinn 50 years while this takes place it will seem like dooms day but its a new beginning
the earth will shake but not shift polar shifting..now in this time zone they have bases on the moon and other planets and are closely watching us...iam another nostradamas... if jesus stood before you and revieled himself would you believe.... yet he did exist thanks robert mackey seward alaska
Frode,
This description from The Guide in Etidorhpa, in the chapter called Matter is Retarded Motion, seems to correspond well to Cater's idea that matter is a matter ( no pun intended ) of disturbed motion, i.e., compacted ether particles which adhere to each other. Ether forms photon aggregates which for electrons and protons which combine together to produce atoms, which combine to produce molecules. It all begins when the ethers become compacted and adhere to each other.
Here is the description:
" Hold," I interrupted; " that would be as one quality of matter passing through another quality of matter without disturbance to either, and it is a law in physics that two substances can not occupy the same space at the same time."
That law holds good as man understands the subject, but bullets are no longer matter. Motion of mass was first changed into motion of molecules, and motion of molecule became finally augmented into motion of free force entities as the bullets disintegrated into molecular corpuscles, and then were dissociated, atoms resulting. At this last point the sense of vision, and of touch, ceased to be affected by that moving column ( neither matter nor force ), and at the next jump in velocity the atoms themselves disappeared, and free intangible motion resulted in nothing, vacancy.
" This result is the all-pervading spirit of space ( the ether of mankind ), as solid as adamant and as mobile as vacuity. If you can reverse the order of this phenomenon, and imagine an irregular retardation of the rapidity of such atomic motion, you can read the story of the formation of the material universe. Follow the chain backward, and with the decrease of velocity, motion becomes tangible matter again, and in accordance with conditions governing the change of motion into matter, from time to time the various elements successively appear.
By the way,
Do feel free to download Etidorhpa, there is no copyright: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index13.html
Dean
Thanks, Dean.
Your site is looking GREAT, btw.
--Mike
Think about this!
Can motion exist by itself?
There is never a Yin completely devoid of Yang
as well as a Yang completely devoid of Yin.
So, motion and matter are two concepts that are dependent on each other.
One can't exist without the other.
Everything does not come out of nothing.It has to be something.
It can't be both something and nothing at the same time.
Frode
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Matter is Retarded MotionThink about this!
Can motion exist by itself?
There is never a Yin completely devoid of Yang
as well as a Yang completely devoid of Yin.
So, motion and matter are two concepts that are dependent on each other.
One can't exist without the other.
Everything does not come out of nothing.It has to be something.
It can't be both something and nothing at the same time.
Frode
Well, the guide seems to trace physical matter back to the atomic state ( see quote below ) and then, after a final jump in velocity, he defines it as " free, intangible motion." This to me referst o the ethereal stage. But then he says that the free, intangible motion results in " nothing, vacancy." How can something be nothing, all of the sudden? I am not a voidist. I actually did notice that as I was copying it and didn't feel comfortable with it. Except for his final result, reading Cater helped me to follow the Guide's process, but Cater, of course, does not seem to support the existence of nothingness at any point.
DD
Here is the description:
" Hold," I interrupted; " that would be as one quality of matter passing through another quality of matter without disturbance to either, and it is a law in physics that two substances can not occupy the same space at the same time."
That law holds good as man understands the subject, but bullets are no longer matter. Motion of mass was first changed into motion of molecules, and motion of molecule became finally augmented into motion of free force entities as the bullets disintegrated into molecular corpuscles, and then were dissociated, atoms resulting. At this last point the sense of vision, and of touch, ceased to be affected by that moving column ( neither matter nor force ), and at the next jump in velocity the atoms themselves disappeared, and free intangible motion resulted in nothing, vacancy.
" This result is the all-pervading spirit of space ( the ether of mankind ), as solid as adamant and as mobile as vacuity. If you can reverse the order of this phenomenon, and imagine an irregular retardation of the rapidity of such atomic motion, you can read the story of the formation of the material universe. Follow the chain backward, and with the decrease of velocity, motion becomes tangible matter again, and in accordance with conditions governing the change of motion into matter, from time to time the various elements successively appear.
Exactly!!
You wrote,
I would disagree on this, Dean.
The 'universes' as we know them were initially the 'no-thing'
(nothing) but within the no-thing lay all possibility and probability-
everything. When the no-thing turned in upon itself it created
friction (imperceptable movement)- the first physics principle.
Eons of eternities have unfolded since then. The no-thing became
manifest- unfolding every-thing (to this point of progress). Within
every-thing is duality and polarity- right/wrong, good/bad,
light/dark, and everything else- planets, solar systems, intelligent
and non-intelligent species, etc. (all of which creates movement and
reflection).
Beyond the no-thing lies Supreme Intelligence, Universal Mind, to
some, God. To my way of learning 'every thing' was not created by the
SI (God). 'Every thing' "is" part and parcel "of" SI. We were not
created by god, we are god- an aspect of god, the unfolding of
everything- every possibility and probability. And every aspect,
every piece, was given the ability to be equal to the original. There
is no heirarchy in the universe, that is a creation of mankind. All
of this was initiated in an effort such that SI would 'know itself'
and never again be bored with it's perfection. In essence- make known
the unknown- forever, The Eternal Quest.
state ( see quote below ) and then, after a final jump in velocity,
he defines it as " free, intangible motion." This to me referst o the
ethereal stage. But then he says that the free, intangible motion
results in " nothing, vacancy." How can something be nothing, all
of the sudden? I am not a voidist. I actually did notice that as I
was copying it and didn't feel comfortable with it. Except for his
final result, reading Cater helped me to follow the Guide's process,
but Cater, of course, does not seem to support the existence of
nothingness at any point.
matter passing through another quality of matter without disturbance
to either, and it is a law in physics that two substances can not
occupy the same space at the same time."
are no longer matter. Motion of mass was first changed into motion of
molecules, and motion of molecule became finally augmented into
motion of free force entities as the bullets disintegrated into
molecular corpuscles, and then were dissociated, atoms resulting. At
this last point the sense of vision, and of touch, ceased to be
affected by that moving column ( neither matter nor force ), and at
the next jump in velocity the atoms themselves disappeared, and free
intangible motion resulted in nothing, vacancy.
of mankind ), as solid as adamant and as mobile as vacuity. If you
can reverse the order of this phenomenon, and imagine an irregular
retardation of the rapidity of such atomic motion, you can read the
story of the formation of the material universe. Follow the chain
backward, and with the decrease of velocity, motion becomes tangible
matter again, and in accordance with conditions governing the change
of motion into matter, from time to time the various elements
successively appear.