40 years ago your discipline was in a position to lead all of science into a new age of discovery but you wimped out. You, basically, had no balls.
You could have given a growing Earth theory an open chance for a complete examination, but you closed your doors.
WORSE, you accepted subduction, a theory that has not been seen or proved for all these 40 years, as gospel out of fear.
Why did you do it?
You were bullied into it. But worse again you allowed yourselves to be bullied shame!
Nothing, nothing in the "proofs" of subduction is there that can't easily be explained by another concept within the plate tectonics.
You will be the laughed at generation of geologists who believed in the subduction theory. Just like those who believed the Sun went around the Earth or the Earth was flat and you could fall off the edge. You are the duped generation of geologists.
Let me rip at your heart and brain for a few minutes, and give you a chance at redemption.
As a geologist did you ever sit and contemplate a group of geodes?
Some, cut apart, or one, simply together, as a rock? Fascinating, aren't they?
Humble things, geodes? Hmmmmm?
What if I told you that a geode was a model for the Earth, all planets, moons and even suns?
I mean even without deep discussion, you do see the similarities yes?
They're round for the most part. They have a crust of many types of material. Then under that crust it's more crystal, but the crystal is randomly angled as if it were adjusting to new random angles, but further in the angles are clearly pushing outward (and inward) perpendicular to the surface, unlike the near-surface angles.
These crystals, as you know, are straight sided like, say, basalt or iron. Straight-sided crystals aiming outward are in an odd place being in a ball. Because the ball shape resists the straight sided being larger on the outside, smaller on the inside. So the crystals are irregular lengths going inward. They all can't grow inward regularly, can they? They would compress tighter and tighter. So they accede to their neighbor longer shafts going in.
Yes, molecules do add to the inner ends creating compression and having no inward release they must push outward. This is growth without life! (A stepping stone for life, perhaps.) Now this is physics, of course, and you geologists don't talk to physicists much, so you wimp out.
They would tell you if straight sides grow within a sphere, inward they will push outward and as a result the geode will grow outward!
So, a geode grows!
It does? It must!! That's physics!!!
Well, how do you get geodes otherwise? They are not naturally occurring rocks, are they? In fact are rocks naturally occurring rocks?
No. There is a process and events that lead to the creation of rocks. Sedimentary action and cooling of magmic or volcanic material. What about silicate growth?
So geodes? Well we have similar occurring crystal in caves growing. Well, yes in fact, these crystals are characterized as growing. That is how we believe they got there like sugar crystals on a stick, or like salt crystals underground. They grew, well, added molecules, or atoms, and grew. Otherwise, how would they get there? The molecules float through water or air and attach to like molecules and grow the crystalline body.
Why do they attach to like molecules and not just any molecule? How many molecules float by and are allowed to attach? Only one kind attaches.
So, geodes must must grow! Or, else how could they get there? They are crystals.
I don't know overly much about geodes. I know they grow in swamps. Yes, but they, also, grow in sand and pumice. (Ash.)
So it's not water that carries all molecules into geodes. It's air. They float in the air or through the ground like gas.
That's why we don't have iron geodes on Earth. Iron is a heavy atom and there's not enough heat at the surface to "float" an iron atom in the air. This is true about many atoms and molecules. But sodium and chlorine gas will rise up within the upper Earth and form salt crystals to gather in lobes underground.
As to iron if iron atoms are, let's say, made or produced in space with out a gravity to "pull them down" (A meaningless term in space.) they will float and assemble into iron geodes in space, and grow like all geodes from the inside.
We call this an iron meteorite.
How do we get iron atoms in space? Well I'm afraid you have to bring a physicist into the discussion, which you won't, so don't worry about it. Assume iron atoms in space. You've got iron geode meteorites! Oh, your friends say iron meteorites come from uh blown up planets? I'm sorry, I ah wasn't sure I heard that right. Somebody blew up a planet?
"Ming The Merciless", or "Darth Vader"? Maybe it's that rogue planet that once crashed into Earth and gouged out our Moon and left that big hollow place around Asia and Africa .
There's one planet on each electro magnetic line around the Sun except for our planet. Asteroid belt line. Jupiter doesn't seem to be letting that potential planet assemble.
There's ah no planet missing. But what would blow this mystery planet up Oh I see you're punking me. Nuff said, I get it.
Do you believe planets only exist in orbits around the Suns? Or am I an idiot? Otherwise there aren't . Rrrrrreally planet sized things are there? Some big meteorites in random orbits perhaps, but planets to be blown up? No! It's silly!
Meteorites grow like geodes. There's an empty center space inside inside of all meteorites did you know that?
And all the material grows outward. Outward, like with a geode! You ever look at a cross section of a meteorite etched by acid, so you can see the crystal formation? As the meteorite gets bigger and bigger the crystal growth looks more and more pushing outward, in a more and more organized way. More like a geode. In cold space how would a meteorite grow? You've seen crystalline growth haven't you?
Let me ask you, geologist, an iron meteorite picks up an iron atom not a clump, just a single atom. Does the atom, as a gas, (Which it is, right?) sit on the surface or will it follow gravity to the center of the meteorite at the geocentral core to attach to the growing iron crystal there.
By the way, geologist, did you know that meteorites have an outer skin? A skin, just like a geode.
Rocks don't have skins do they, fellows?
Earth and all planets, moons and suns have skins, don't they?
Would you like more?
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Dean , the idea of Geode as a model for Hollow Earth is very fascinating indeed. There are lot of similiarities between Hollow planets and Geodes . Could it be that Geodes that "grow" beyond a certain threshold size level turn into the hollow planets we discuss about ??
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The shape of our Earth and of Geodes is best described as an "Oblate Spheroid" , not a perfect sphere
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Expando Planet model talks about a plasma core inside an expanding Earth , Geodes "grow" too !
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A gravity map of the Earth , makes it look exactly the shape of a Geode - this shows , Earth is not a perfect sphere , there are slight gravity variations over different parts of the Earth's surface
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View Images A model of Earth's gravity field made with data from ESA's GOCE satellite.
Image courtesy ESA/HPF/DLR It may look like a mangled lump of Play-Doh, but this colorful object is actually the most accurate digital model yet of Earth's gravity field, scientists say. Released last week, the gravity map is what's known as a geoid, and it was created by a European satellite called the Gravity field and steady-state Ocean Circulation Explorer, or GOCE.In general, most people think of Earth as a relatively smooth orb. But matter is not evenly distributed across the planet's surface, and bodies of water are constantly shifting due to winds and currents.By capturing the planet's gravity rather than its physical appearance, the geoid shows the shape that mean sea level would have if it could somehow be extended over the entire surface of the globe, said John Wahr, a geophysicist at the University of Colorado."Basically, when people say Denver is 5,280 feet [1,609 meters] above sea level, what they mean is that it's 5,280 feet above the geoid," Wahr said by email.Watch an animation of the geoid in motion. Gravity Map to Trace Tectonics, Currents The European Space Agency launched GOCE in March 2009 into a low polar orbit, circling about 158 miles (255 kilometers) above the planet's surface.Since then the craft has been using its array of highly sensitive gravity sensors to map variations in Earth's gravity field, building up data over the course of thousands of orbits.The resulting geoid can be used by geophysicists to puzzle out details of Earth's interior structure, said Michael Watkins, a geodesist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.(Related: "Canada's Low-Gravity Puzzle Solved, Scientists Say.")The gravity maps are also important to oceanographers, because winds and currents cause water to pile up in some places while scooping it out of others."If you can map out the ocean surface somehow (with satellite radar altimetry, for example), and then take the difference between that surface and the geoid, you can ... determine the direction and strength of ocean currents," said the University of Colorado's Wahr."The better the geoid, the better you can do this."New Geoid a Gravity "Snapshot"Although Wahr and Watkins aren't part of the GOCE team, they do work with a similar NASA satellite known as the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment, or GRACE. This craft orbits higher and produces less detailed maps of Earth's gravity.But what GRACE lacks in resolution it makes up for in timeliness, allowing NASA to track changes in Earth's gravity due to shifting floodwaters or melting glaciers."GOCE is a high-resolution snapshot of the gravity field," JPL's Watkins said in an email. "GRACE is a medium-resolution movie."(See "NASA Satellites Track Vanishing Groundwater.")The two are complementary, he said, because the better we know the "snapshot," the more accurately we can find changes as the movie unfolds.For example, studying the geoid can help us understand tectonic processes such as those involved in last month's devastating earthquake in Japan, Watkins said. (See "Japan Earthquake Shortened Days, Increased Earth's Wobble.")"Large earthquakes move enough mass to change the gravity field," he said, "and those changes can tell us more about the mechanism of the quake and how much slip and uplift occurred, especially in offshore areas where it is difficult to observe [Earth's crust] directly."
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DEAR GEOLOGISTS40 years ago yourdiscipline was in a position to lead all of science into a new age of discoverybut you wimped out. You, basically, had no balls.
You could have given a growing Earth theory an open chance for a completeexamination, but you closed your doors.
WORSE, you accepted subduction, a theory that has not been seen or proved forall these 40 years, as gospel out of fear.
Why did you do it?
You werebullied into it. But worse again you allowed yourselves to be bullied shame!
Nothing, nothing in the "proofs" of subduction isthere that can't easily be explained by another concept within the platetectonics.
You will be the laughed at generation of geologists who believed in thesubduction theory. Just like those who believed the Sun went around the Earthor the Earth was flat and you could fall off the edge. You are the duped generation of geologists.
Let me rip at your heart and brain for a few minutes, and give you a chance atredemption.
As a geologist did you ever sit and contemplate a group of geodes?
Some, cutapart, or one, simply together, as a rock? Fascinating, aren't they?
Humble things, geodes? Hmmmmm?
What if I told you that a geode was a model for the Earth, all planets, moonsand even suns?
I mean even without deep discussion, you do see the similarities yes?
They're round for the most part. They have a crust of many types of material. Thenunder that crust it's more crystal, but the crystal is randomly angled as if itwere adjusting to new random angles, but further in the angles are clearlypushing outward (and inward) perpendicular to the surface, unlike thenear-surface angles.
These crystals, as you know, are straight sided like, say, basalt or iron. Straight-sidedcrystals aiming outward are in an odd place being in a ball. Because the ballshape resists the straight sided being larger on the outside, smaller on theinside. So the crystals are irregular lengths going inward. They all can't growinward regularly, can they? They would compress tighter and tighter. So theyaccede to their neighbor longer shafts going in.
Yes, molecules do add to the inner ends creating compression and having noinward release they must push outward. This is growth without life! (A steppingstone for life, perhaps.) Now this is physics, of course, and you geologistsdon't talk to physicists much, so you wimp out.
They would tell you if straight sides grow within a sphere, inward they willpush outward and as a result the geode will grow outward!
So, a geode grows!
It does? It must!! That's physics!!!
Well, how do you get geodes otherwise? They are not naturally occurring rocks,are they? In fact are rocks naturally occurring rocks?
No. There is a process and events that lead to the creation of rocks. Sedimentaryaction and cooling of magmic or volcanic material. What about silicate growth?
So geodes? Well we have similar occurring crystal in caves growing. Well, yesin fact, these crystals are characterized as growing. That is how we believethey got there like sugar crystals on a stick, or like salt crystalsunderground. They grew, well, added molecules, or atoms, and grew. Otherwise,how would they get there? The molecules float through water or air and attachto like molecules and grow the crystalline body.
Why do they attach to like molecules and not just any molecule? How manymolecules float by and are allowed to attach? Onlyone kind attaches.
So, geodes must must grow! Or, else how could they get there? They are crystals.
I don't know overly much about geodes. I know they grow in swamps. Yes, butthey, also, grow in sand and pumice. (Ash.)
So it's not water that carries all molecules into geodes. It's air. They float in the air or through the ground like gas.
That's why we don't have iron geodes on Earth. Iron is a heavy atom and there's not enoughheat at the surface to "float" an iron atom in the air. This is trueabout many atoms and molecules. But sodium and chlorine gas will rise up withinthe upper Earth and form salt crystals to gather in lobes underground.
As to iron if iron atoms are, let's say, made or produced in space with out agravity to "pull them down" (A meaningless term in space.) they willfloat and assemble into iron geodes in space, and grow like all geodes from theinside.
We call this an iron meteorite.
How do we get iron atoms in space? Well I'm afraid you have to bring a physicist intothe discussion, which you won't, so don't worry about it. Assume iron atoms inspace. You've got iron geode meteorites! Oh, your friends say iron meteoritescome from uh blown up planets? I'm sorry, I ah wasn't sure I heard that right. Somebodyblew up a planet?
"Ming The Merciless", or "Darth Vader"? Maybe it's thatrogue planet that once crashed into Earth and gouged out our Moon and left thatbig hollow place around Asia and Africa .
There's one planet on each electro magnetic line around the Sun except for ourplanet. Asteroid belt line. Jupiter doesn't seem to be letting that potentialplanet assemble.
There's ah no planet missing. But what would blow this mystery planet up Oh I seeyou're punking me. Nuff said, I get it.
Do you believe planets only exist in orbits around the Suns? Or am I an idiot? Otherwisethere aren't . Rrrrrreally planet sized things are there? Some big meteoritesin random orbits perhaps, but planets to be blown up? No! It's silly!
Meteorites grow like geodes. There's an empty center space inside inside of allmeteorites did you know that?
And all the material grows outward. Outward, like with a geode! You ever lookat a cross section of a meteorite etched by acid, so you can see the crystalformation? As the meteorite gets bigger and bigger the crystal growth looksmore and more pushing outward, in a more and more organized way. More like ageode. In cold space how would a meteorite grow? You've seen crystalline growthhaven't you?
Let me ask you, geologist, an iron meteorite picks up an iron atom not a clump,just a single atom. Does the atom, as a gas, (Which it is, right?) sit on thesurface or will it follow gravity to the center of the meteorite at the geocentralcore to attach to the growing iron crystal there.
By the way, geologist, did you know that meteorites have an outer skin? A skin, just like a geode.
Rocks don't have skins do they, fellows?
Earth and allplanets, moons and suns have skins, don't they?
Would you like more?
Drop me a note.Email - [email protected]
CurrentDiscussion
ScienceMain Page
Sidharta,
Yes, the geode model corresponds well to the idea of the Earth's exterior being fairly smooth, with only rumples; and a 88 mile high geological feature being described in the puranic literature. The 88 mile feature must be inside.
People,
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