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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 02:02:43 -0000
From: "AnandaYogi" [email protected]
Subject: The Mayas were NagasNamaste Mates
This url provides a twist!! ... at:
http://users.skynet.be/sky78046/mayas/nagas.htm BB AYThe Mayas were Nagas
There is definitely an important connection between the old Vedic
people and Maya-ancestors. The Mayas are actually referred to in the
Mahabharata, one of the main Hindu scriptures, as a tribe having left
the Indian subcontinent. There are sources who have revealed those
people to be the same as the Nagas, one of the oldest Indian tribes
recorded. Those Nagas seem to have been a people, later called
Danavas, with a capital Nagapur. They are referred to in another main
Hindu-scripture, the Ramayana, as belonging to a Naga-Maya tribe, who
is said to have transmitted their culture towards Babylonia, Egypt
and Greece (source: Una Vision del Mundo, Prof. G. Zapata Alonzo,
Merida, Mexico, 1994, p.71)These findings point again to Bharat (India's subcontinent) as the
cradle-land and pioneering force in the establishment of earth's main
civilisations.There are actually a lot of very interesting correlations:
There are a lot of similarities between the native Maya language and
counting system and the parallel Naga systems. There are similar
correlations between other Asian languages as f.i. Japanese (!) and
Maya. And some old sanskrit texts were found in Yucatan, Mexico.
There are a lot of parallel symbols used in both Indian and Maya-
culture: the snake (actually referring to the Khi, life energy),
Ganesh (the elephant god), the swastika (symbol of cyclic time),
solar cosmoglives, ideograms etc... The word Maya in Hindu philosophy
refers to the word of illusion, but also to the origin of the world;
the sanskrit term is related to great, magic, mother.Going to the Greek-Egyptian civilisations: have you ever compared the
arch of the Agamemnon tomb or palace and the ones you can find in
Uxmal?The cyclic time approaches omnipresent in both cultures. The
understanding of the 'kalpas' had both a scientific but first and
foremost a spiritual inspiration. Arguelles refers to it as
follows "The common root and interest in chronocosmology of Vedic and
Maya is also seen in the cultivation of yoga (Sanskrit: divine union)
and yok-hah (Maya: higher truth).Cyclic Time
http://users.skynet.be/sky78046/mayas/mayatime.htm#cycle
The Mayas, and even better, their ancestors, the pre-mayas, were
completely aware of the cyclic pattern of time. It became the basis
of their whole cultural heritage and wisdom.Another trace of cyclic approach is today still visible in the Hindu
and Vedic traditions and cults who are still using the swastika (the
cross-symbol which has been completely misused in WWII) to indicate
cyclic evolution.Of course both approaches have been thoroughly interpreted, changed,
re-interpreted etc. through the course of history. And we have to go
back to pre-mayan and pre-hinduistic civilisations to have a full
understanding. As no - or almost no ? - remainings are left today
this seems to be quite difficult.
Re: [allplanets-hollow]
Crosspost
Dean (from Dick Fojut) Read your
post below and the original at the URL. Thanks. Please note my
comments below...
From Dean...
This url provides a twist!! ... at:
The Mayas were Nagas
There is definitely an important connection between the old
Vedicpeople and Maya-ancestors. The Mayas are actually referred to in
theMahabharata, one of the main Hindu scriptures, as a tribe having
leftthe Indian subcontinent. There are sources who have revealed
thosepeople to be the same as the Nagas, one of the oldest Indian
tribesrecorded. Those Nagas seem to have been a people, later
calledDanavas, with a capital Nagapur. They are referred to in another
mainHindu-scripture, the Ramayana, as belonging to a Naga-Maya
tribe, whois said to have transmitted their culture towards Babylonia,
Egyptand Greece (source: Una Vision del Mundo, Prof. G. Zapata
Alonzo,
Merida, Mexico, 1994, p.71)
Dean: Interesting. Agrees somewhat with
what Churchward wrote in his "Children of MU" book. Some
differences though. Churchward wrote the "MAYAS" came first from
one corner of then existing MU, went to Burma where they became known
as "NAGAS" (if my memory is right), then on to India as NAGAS.
Differences? Confusion about the Danavas. Churchward has them
separate from the Danavas. Different group, same continental origin
of MU. The "NAACALS" were Priests among the Nagas, with the
sacred teachings of the Motherland. They brought the NAGA-MAYA
language and alphabet. Other white MAYAS from MU, went separately, at
different times, to South America and Central America with their Maya
language and religious beliefs. All this was supposed to be BEFORE
Sanscrit became the major method of writing in India.
Another confusion, about the NAGAS "leaving" India.
Churchward claimed (as you must have read in those chapters I sent
you earlier) that the NAGAS (and the Naacal Priests) were
gradually "edged out" of first, their teaching temples in
India, then India itself - by the migrating "Aryan" multitudes
coming down from the mountains. Recall, according to Churchward, that
these Aryan mountaineers, had been surviving "Uighur" remnants in
uplifted valleys who had multiplied during several thousands of years
surviving in the mountains.
If he was correct, those survivors had earlier been members of the
WHITE Uighurs of the MU's (northern) great independent Uighur
Colonial Empire (stretching from the Pacific to about Moscow today,
above China) that existed up to about 17,000 years back. If
Churchward is to be believed, half that UIghur empire was drowned and
buried by the north moving Pacific waves during the last (and final?)
:"Magnetic Cataclysm" (Lurch of the North Pole) BEFORE mountains
were uplifted.
Then, much later, between about 15,000 and 12,000 years back
(just before the Pacific ocean gas chambers upholding the surfaces of
MU's 3 lands blew out, sinking MU) forging subterranean volcanic
gas belt tunnels uplifted the mountains, destroying the remaining
half of the Uighur empire and the population.
Except for a few survivors whose lands were uplifted in areas
that became high valleys raised up between the peaks of the mountain
ranges. According to Churchward, they became the later white
"Aryans," who had retained mostly only their LANGUAGE in their
long mountain sojourn. But that was one reason they could easily move
down into India and be welcomed by the existing people.
Of course
this conflicts with your personal belief that the Aryans came up out
of a polar hole. One of the tales must be wrong. Or perhaps both
tales are partly right? But recall that Churchward also claimed the
Uighurs had sub-COLONIES across Europe and into Britain (still
connected to Europe) long before the magnetic cataclysm and later
uplifting of mountains. Some survived the cataclysms. Celts?
That was Churchward's surmise.
But then there were supposedly OTHER white colonists who came to
the area some 50,000 years ago from Central America. Those
colonists eventually settled in Scandanavia, Norway, etc., and some
survived the later magnetic cataclysm. He said they were the white
skinned, blonde Quezels, led by their (Maya) King Quetzel, who
had fled Central America in their ships as darker skinned invaders
moved in and took over their country. Sailing north, they bypassed
Atlantis which had not yet been populated and landed on the
shores of the European Land Bridge connecting Europe and North
America. The land bridge supposedly sank around the same general
period as MU and Atlantis, for the same reasons, isolating Britain
and Ireland as islands. (If he is writing fiction about the above
incoming movement of white skinned people, he writes an interesting,
fascinating story!) - Dick Fojut
···
These findings point again to Bharat
(India's subcontinent) as the
cradle-land and pioneering force in
the establishment of earth's maincivilisations.
There are actually a lot of very interesting correlations:
There are a lot of similarities between the native Maya language
andcounting system and the parallel Naga systems. There are
similarcorrelations between other Asian languages as f.i. Japanese (!)
andMaya. And some old sanskrit texts were found in Yucatan,
Mexico.There are a lot of parallel symbols used in both Indian and
Maya-culture: the snake (actually referring to the Khi, life
energy),Ganesh (the elephant god), the swastika (symbol of cyclic
time),solar cosmoglives, ideograms etc... The word Maya in Hindu
philosophyrefers to the word of illusion, but also to the origin of the
world;the sanskrit term is related to great, magic, mother.
Going to the Greek-Egyptian civilisations: have you ever
compared thearch of the Agamemnon tomb or palace and the ones you can find
inUxmal?
The cyclic time approaches omnipresent in both cultures. The
understanding of the 'kalpas' had both a scientific but first
andforemost a spiritual inspiration. Arguelles refers to it as
follows "The common root and interest in chronocosmology of
Vedic andMaya is also seen in the cultivation of yoga (Sanskrit: divine
union)and yok-hah (Maya: higher truth).
Cyclic Time
The Mayas, and even better, their ancestors, the pre-mayas,
werecompletely aware of the cyclic pattern of time. It became the
basisof their whole cultural heritage and wisdom.
Another trace of cyclic approach is today still visible in the
Hinduand Vedic traditions and cults who are still using the swastika
(thecross-symbol which has been completely misused in WWII) to
indicatecyclic evolution.
Of course both approaches have been thoroughly interpreted,
changed,re-interpreted etc. through the course of history. And we have
to goback to pre-mayan and pre-hinduistic civilisations to have a
fullunderstanding. As no - or almost no ? - remainings are left
todaythis seems to be quite difficult.
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List Members-
I have attached two more pages from UFOs and the Complete Evidence from Space by Daniel Ross. He writes about the nature of low resolution, black and white images of the Moon taken by Apollo and various probes. he explains that, before they were launched, the Gemini capsules had already taken superior photos of the Earth with higher resolution cameras, in color, than the Apoolo craft took of theMoon, in black and white only, from a closer orbit. Click on the attachment and read what he has to say.
One conclusion that we might want to entertain is that the photography was planned on purpose to dupe the public. We cannot trust our notions about the planets and the Moon. They are hollow, for one thing.
Dharma/Dean
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Crosspost
Dean: Your attachment doesn't seem to have come through. I have had that problem too sometimes when I sen them. Ralph
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From:
Dean De Lucia
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 7:30 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Low Resolution Images
List Members-
I have attached two more pages from UFOs and the Complete Evidence from Space by Daniel Ross. He writes about the nature of low resolution, black and white images of the Moon taken by Apollo and various probes. he explains that, before they were launched, the Gemini capsules had already taken superior photos of the Earth with higher resolution cameras, in color, than the Apoolo craft took of theMoon, in black and white only, from a closer orbit. Click on the attachment and read what he has to say.
One conclusion that we might want to entertain is that the photography was planned on purpose to dupe the public. We cannot trust our notions about the planets and the Moon. They are hollow, for one thing.
Dharma/Dean
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Ralph,
Here is the missing attachment. Thanks for bring the fact that it wsmissing to my attention. I do a million things at once and space out- I didn't really click on my own attachment.
DD
THE MOON SHOWS A LIVING ENVIRONMENT 155
Astronauts in their Apollo spacecraft photographed about 10% of the lunar far side, and NASA did release some orbital photographs in fair color. A few area photographs show natural browns, prominent greens, and shades of fawn and pink, all in the same picture. But since they were taken with low resolution from high orbit, one cannot positively identify the environmental conditions that produced the color effects in these few examples. The greens in one picture might be related to area vegetation, while greens in another picture wouldn't necessarily mean anything.
Most of the pictures [ Lunar far side ] can be said to have exaggerated color schemes and shadings. The source of various color effects are impossible to define, and when viewed from such a high orbit, the Moon appears to have bleak, featureless surroundings. Of course, it was NASA's intent to keep pictures of the Moon ill‑defined, particularly those of the far side, beginning with the early black and white photography. Now, the low resolution shots with nebulous colors were just as unsatisfactory. As an explanation, NASA stated that it had difficulty in obtaining accurate surface colors with their orbital photography, due to different film batches and cameras, and various underexposure effects.
However, we are able to compare the lackluster results of the supposedly difficult lunar photography with the superior results of earth photography from early Gemini space flights. Gemini 11, while orbiting 470 miles above Earth, photographed regional areas of our planet in perfect color, and with far greater resolution than NASA's moon pictures. Since Apollo spacecraft were at an orbiting altitude six times closer to the Moon's surface, why was the photographic resolution of lunar pictures not even equal to Gemini pictures? The problems of color may have somewhat believable explanations, but it is obvious that the resolution was kept artificially low for lunar pictures, since camera equipment used on the earlier Gemini flights had proven that better capabilities were available. NASA clearly chose to use camera optics and film which would produce certain desired
156 UFO'S AND THE COMPLETE EVIDENCE FROM SPACE
The little that has been released of the lunar far side is low resolution and nebulous, unless it was a barren crater or inconsequential shot. NASA provided results which instilled the idea that there is not much difference from the Moon's front side. Unlike certain space data, the photographs are not actual fabrications. But since their quality and resolution are so artificially low, the implied, overall picture of the Moon is not genuine.
The release of low resolution Moon photographs with inconsistent colors was all that NASA had to provide. These were readily picked up by the anxious media and disseminated to the public in common magazines, accompanied with write‑ups highlighting the undisturbed orthodox theories. Everything seemed to be conveniently confirmed by pictures that wouldn't require a second glance. The scientific community speedily incorporated the pictures into textbooks and other publications, along with their patented orthodox views of the lifeless Moon. The old theories were now published as "scientific truth", and the Moon was history.
NASA simply showed that they went to the Moon, and left public education in the hands of the scientific community, where it had always been. Therefore, the coverup scheme is decidedly simple. The orthodox scientific community does not question NASA's simplistic evidence, any more than they question their own theories, so certainly the public is not going to be questioning anything. While browsing through an occasional magazine article or book, a person will naturally think that he is seeing the latest facts and findings, supported by NASA pictures outlining the text, when in fact he hasn't actually been shown anything new. Just an ongoing and deceptive image, which can be traced all the way back to those deceptive, low‑resolution photos from high lunar orbit. The orthodoxers were happy with them, and then beefed up their theories in conservative journals and textbooks. NASA's coverup methods follow a rather routine procedure.Re: [allplanets-hollow] Crosspost
Members,
About that Low Resolution Images post- It seems that you have to scroll way down to get to the second page.
DDD
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Crosspost
The article says; “There are a lot of parallel symbols used in both Indian and Maya-culture: the snake actually referring to the Khi, life energy” (prana.) The Maya also practised Kundalini yoga (the Divine Serpent.) But if Churchward was correct and the Nagas were persecuted by Brahmins, that would explain why they left and the Naga-Maya tribe, transmitted their culture towards Babylonia, Egypt and Greece and it becomes clear that the pre-Maya tribes could be direct descendents and survivors of that highly evolved civilisation, Atlantis. (And or Mu?) But again, it seems to refute the notion that Nagas were “snake-people” they simply worshipped this ancient symbol for wisdom. Arysio Nunes dos Santos, a brilliant linguist, has found many sanskrit words at the root of Egyptian language, which is why he says Atlantis was in sunken Indonesia.(Mu?) Hazel
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Dick Fojut
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Crosspost
Dean (from Dick Fojut) Read your post below and the original at the URL. Thanks. Please note my comments below...
From Dean...
> This url provides a twist!! ... at:http://users.skynet.be/sky78046/mayas/nagas.htm BB AY
The Mayas were Nagas
There is definitely an important connection between the old Vedic
people and Maya-ancestors. The Mayas are actually referred to in the
Mahabharata, one of the main Hindu scriptures, as a tribe having left
the Indian subcontinent. There are sources who have revealed those
people to be the same as the Nagas, one of the oldest Indian tribes
recorded. Those Nagas seem to have been a people, later called
Danavas, with a capital Nagapur. They are referred to in another main
Hindu-scripture, the Ramayana, as belonging to a Naga-Maya tribe, who
is said to have transmitted their culture towards Babylonia, Egypt
and Greece (source: Una Vision del Mundo, Prof. G. Zapata Alonzo,
Merida, Mexico, 1994, p.71)** Dean: Interesting. Agrees somewhat with what Churchward wrote in his "Children of MU" book** . Some differences though. Churchward wrote the "MAYAS" came first from one corner of then existing MU, went to Burma where they became known as "NAGAS" (if my memory is right), then on to India as NAGAS. Differences? Confusion about the Danavas. Churchward has them separate from the Danavas. Different group, same continental origin of MU. The "NAACALS" were Priests among the Nagas, with the sacred teachings of the Motherland. They brought the NAGA-MAYA language and alphabet. Other white MAYAS from MU, went separately, at different times, to South America and Central America with their Maya language and religious beliefs. All this was supposed to be BEFORE Sanscrit became the major method of writing in India.
Another confusion, about the NAGAS "leaving" India . Churchward claimed (as you must have read in those chapters I sent you earlier) that the NAGAS (and the Naacal Priests) were gradually "edged out" of first, their teaching temples in India, then India itself - by the migrating "Aryan" multitudes coming down from the mountains. Recall, according to Churchward, that these Aryan mountaineers, had been surviving "Uighur" remnants in uplifted valleys who had multiplied during several thousands of years surviving in the mountains.
** If he was correct, those survivors had earlier been members of the WHITE Uighurs of the MU's (northern) great independent Uighur Colonial Empire (stretching from the Pacific to about Moscow today, above China) that existed up to about 17,000 years back** . If Churchward is to be believed, half that UIghur empire was drowned and buried by the north moving Pacific waves during the last (and final?) :"Magnetic Cataclysm" (Lurch of the North Pole) BEFORE mountains were uplifted.
** Then, much later, between about 15,000 and 12,000 years back** (just before the Pacific ocean gas chambers upholding the surfaces of MU's 3 lands blew out, sinking MU) forging subterranean volcanic gas belt tunnels uplifted the mountains, destroying the remaining half of the Uighur empire and the population.
Excep t for a few survivors whose lands were uplifted in areas that became high valleys raised up between the peaks of the mountain ranges. ** According to Churchward, they became the later white "Aryans," who had retained mostly only their LANGUAGE in their long mountain sojourn. But that was one reason they could easily move down into India and be welcomed by the existing people.**
Of course this conflicts with your personal belief that the Aryans came up out of a polar hole. One of the tales must be wrong. Or perhaps both tales are partly right? But recall that Churchward also claimed the Uighurs had sub-COLONIES across Europe and into Britain (still connected to Europe) long before the magnetic cataclysm and later uplifting of mountains. Some survived the cataclysms. Celts? That was Churchward's surmise.
** But then there were supposedly OTHER white colonists who came to the area some 50,000 years ago from Central America.** Those colonists eventually settled in Scandanavia, Norway, etc., and some survived the later magnetic cataclysm. He said they were ** the white skinned, blonde Quezels, led by their (Maya) King Quetzel,** who had fled Central America in their ships as darker skinned invaders moved in and took over their country. Sailing north, they bypassed Atlantis which had not yet been populated and landed on the shores of the European Land Bridge connecting Europe and North America. The land bridge supposedly sank around the same general period as MU and Atlantis, for the same reasons, isolating Britain and Ireland as islands. (If he is writing fiction about the above incoming movement of white skinned people, he writes an interesting, fascinating story!) - Dick Fojut
>These findings point again to Bharat (India's subcontinent) as the > cradle-land and pioneering force in the establishment of earth's maincivilisations.
There are actually a lot of very interesting correlations:
There are a lot of similarities between the native Maya language and
counting system and the parallel Naga systems. There are similar
correlations between other Asian languages as f.i. Japanese (!) and
Maya. And some old sanskrit texts were found in Yucatan, Mexico.
There are a lot of parallel symbols used in both Indian and Maya-
culture: the snake (actually referring to the Khi, life energy),
Ganesh (the elephant god), the swastika (symbol of cyclic time),
solar cosmoglives, ideograms etc... The word Maya in Hindu philosophy
refers to the word of illusion, but also to the origin of the world;
the sanskrit term is related to great, magic, mother.Going to the Greek-Egyptian civilisations: have you ever compared the
arch of the Agamemnon tomb or palace and the ones you can find in
Uxmal?The cyclic time approaches omnipresent in both cultures. The
understanding of the 'kalpas' had both a scientific but first and
foremost a spiritual inspiration. Arguelles refers to it as
follows "The common root and interest in chronocosmology of Vedic and
Maya is also seen in the cultivation of yoga (Sanskrit: divine union)
and yok-hah (Maya: higher truth).Cyclic Time
http://users.skynet.be/sky78046/mayas/mayatime.htm#cycle
The Mayas, and even better, their ancestors, the pre-mayas, were
completely aware of the cyclic pattern of time. It became the basis
of their whole cultural heritage and wisdom.Another trace of cyclic approach is today still visible in the Hindu
and Vedic traditions and cults who are still using the swastika (the
cross-symbol which has been completely misused in WWII) to indicate
cyclic evolution.Of course both approaches have been thoroughly interpreted, changed,
re-interpreted etc. through the course of history. And we have to go
back to pre-mayan and pre-hinduistic civilisations to have a full
understanding. As no - or almost no ? - remainings are left today
this seems to be quite difficult.** Yahoo! Groups Sponsor** [
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More on Maya;
Mayan ziggurats, like Pacal’s, Temple of Inscriptions, consisted of a platform with chambers above reached by a single staircase, symbolizing the descent to the underworld. A secret staircase led to his sarcophagus inside. What Von Daniken believes are the levers and apparatus of a spacecraft, on the lid, is actually the glyph for the tree of life which separated the Overworld, the Middleworld (ours) and the Underworld, the tree is the axis mundi.
The Temple of Kukulkan (feathered-serpent) designed to the specifications of the gods, incorporating advanced geodetic sscience, created the illusion, by shadows and light at the equinoxes, of an undulating serpent on the northern staircase. This represents the Vision Serpent, a symbol of contact with the gods and ancestors. Maya awakened their Kundalini with rituals involving penis and tongue blood-letting. Yogis and shamen use similar practices to arouse the sleeping coiled-fire-serpent (prana.)
Maya cities were filled in with rubble, before they disappeared........Hazel
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From:
Hazel
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Maya
The article says; “There are a lot of parallel symbols used in both Indian and Maya-culture: the snake actually referring to the Khi, life energy” (prana.) The Maya also practised Kundalini yoga (the Divine Serpent.) But if Churchward was correct and the Nagas were persecuted by Brahmins, that would explain why they left and the Naga-Maya tribe, transmitted their culture towards Babylonia, Egypt and Greece and it becomes clear that the pre-Maya tribes could be direct descendents and survivors of that highly evolved civilisation, Atlantis. (And or Mu?) But again, it seems to refute the notion that Nagas were “snake-people” they simply worshipped this ancient symbol for wisdom. Arysio Nunes dos Santos, a brilliant linguist, has found many sanskrit words at the root of Egyptian language, which is why he says Atlantis was in sunken Indonesia.(Mu?) Hazel
----- Original Message -----
From:
Dick Fojut
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Crosspost
Dean (from Dick Fojut) Read your post below and the original at the URL. Thanks. Please note my comments below...
From Dean...
> This url provides a twist!! ... at:http://users.skynet.be/sky78046/mayas/nagas.htm BB AY
The Mayas were Nagas
There is definitely an important connection between the old Vedic
people and Maya-ancestors. The Mayas are actually referred to in the
Mahabharata, one of the main Hindu scriptures, as a tribe having left
the Indian subcontinent. There are sources who have revealed those
people to be the same as the Nagas, one of the oldest Indian tribes
recorded. Those Nagas seem to have been a people, later called
Danavas, with a capital Nagapur. They are referred to in another main
Hindu-scripture, the Ramayana, as belonging to a Naga-Maya tribe, who
is said to have transmitted their culture towards Babylonia, Egypt
and Greece (source: Una Vision del Mundo, Prof. G. Zapata Alonzo,
Merida, Mexico, 1994, p.71)** Dean: Interesting. Agrees somewhat with what Churchward wrote in his "Children of MU" book** . Some differences though. Churchward wrote the "MAYAS" came first from one corner of then existing MU, went to Burma where they became known as "NAGAS" (if my memory is right), then on to India as NAGAS. Differences? Confusion about the Danavas. Churchward has them separate from the Danavas. Different group, same continental origin of MU. The "NAACALS" were Priests among the Nagas, with the sacred teachings of the Motherland. They brought the NAGA-MAYA language and alphabet. Other white MAYAS from MU, went separately, at different times, to South America and Central America with their Maya language and religious beliefs. All this was supposed to be BEFORE Sanscrit became the major method of writing in India.
Another confusion, about the NAGAS "leaving" India . Churchward claimed (as you must have read in those chapters I sent you earlier) that the NAGAS (and the Naacal Priests) were gradually "edged out" of first, their teaching temples in India, then India itself - by the migrating "Aryan" multitudes coming down from the mountains. Recall, according to Churchward, that these Aryan mountaineers, had been surviving "Uighur" remnants in uplifted valleys who had multiplied during several thousands of years surviving in the mountains.
** If he was correct, those survivors had earlier been members of the WHITE Uighurs of the MU's (northern) great independent Uighur Colonial Empire (stretching from the Pacific to about Moscow today, above China) that existed up to about 17,000 years back** . If Churchward is to be believed, half that UIghur empire was drowned and buried by the north moving Pacific waves during the last (and final?) :"Magnetic Cataclysm" (Lurch of the North Pole) BEFORE mountains were uplifted.
** Then, much later, between about 15,000 and 12,000 years back** (just before the Pacific ocean gas chambers upholding the surfaces of MU's 3 lands blew out, sinking MU) forging subterranean volcanic gas belt tunnels uplifted the mountains, destroying the remaining half of the Uighur empire and the population.
Excep t for a few survivors whose lands were uplifted in areas that became high valleys raised up between the peaks of the mountain ranges. ** According to Churchward, they became the later white "Aryans," who had retained mostly only their LANGUAGE in their long mountain sojourn. But that was one reason they could easily move down into India and be welcomed by the existing people.**
Of course this conflicts with your personal belief that the Aryans came up out of a polar hole. One of the tales must be wrong. Or perhaps both tales are partly right? But recall that Churchward also claimed the Uighurs had sub-COLONIES across Europe and into Britain (still connected to Europe) long before the magnetic cataclysm and later uplifting of mountains. Some survived the cataclysms. **Celts?** That was Churchward's surmise.
** But then there were supposedly OTHER white colonists who came to the area some 50,000 years ago from Central America.** Those colonists eventually settled in Scandanavia, Norway, etc., and some survived the later magnetic cataclysm. He said they were ** the white skinned, blonde Quezels, led by their (Maya) King Quetzel,** who had fled Central America in their ships as darker skinned invaders moved in and took over their country. Sailing north, they bypassed Atlantis which had not yet been populated and landed on the shores of the European Land Bridge connecting Europe and North America. The land bridge supposedly sank around the same general period as MU and Atlantis, for the same reasons, isolating Britain and Ireland as islands. (If he is writing fiction about the above incoming movement of white skinned people, he writes an interesting, fascinating story!) - Dick Fojut
>These findings point again to Bharat (India's subcontinent) as the > cradle-land and pioneering force in the establishment of earth's maincivilisations.
There are actually a lot of very interesting correlations:
There are a lot of similarities between the native Maya language and
counting system and the parallel Naga systems. There are similar
correlations between other Asian languages as f.i. Japanese (!) and
Maya. And some old sanskrit texts were found in Yucatan, Mexico.
There are a lot of parallel symbols used in both Indian and Maya-
culture: the snake (actually referring to the Khi, life energy),
Ganesh (the elephant god), the swastika (symbol of cyclic time),
solar cosmoglives, ideograms etc... The word Maya in Hindu philosophy
refers to the word of illusion, but also to the origin of the world;
the sanskrit term is related to great, magic, mother.Going to the Greek-Egyptian civilisations: have you ever compared the
arch of the Agamemnon tomb or palace and the ones you can find in
Uxmal?The cyclic time approaches omnipresent in both cultures. The
understanding of the 'kalpas' had both a scientific but first and
foremost a spiritual inspiration. Arguelles refers to it as
follows "The common root and interest in chronocosmology of Vedic and
Maya is also seen in the cultivation of yoga (Sanskrit: divine union)
and yok-hah (Maya: higher truth).Cyclic Time
http://users.skynet.be/sky78046/mayas/mayatime.htm#cycle
The Mayas, and even better, their ancestors, the pre-mayas, were
completely aware of the cyclic pattern of time. It became the basis
of their whole cultural heritage and wisdom.Another trace of cyclic approach is today still visible in the Hindu
and Vedic traditions and cults who are still using the swastika (the
cross-symbol which has been completely misused in WWII) to indicate
cyclic evolution.Of course both approaches have been thoroughly interpreted, changed,
re-interpreted etc. through the course of history. And we have to go
back to pre-mayan and pre-hinduistic civilisations to have a full
understanding. As no - or almost no ? - remainings are left today
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