Cross-post: Proof of HE, Orgone/Prana, or soft particles?

This ties right in with the Hollow Earth Theory, and the "soft
particles/orgone/prana" that Cater and Dean are talking about!

Cheri Anderson to fantasticreality wrote:

--Mike

Cheri wrote:

Environment Over the South Pole

http://gtresearchnews.gatech.edu/newsrelease/SPOLE.html

Another Antarctic Atmosphere Surprise: Scientists Find
Evidence of Highly Oxidizing Environment Over the
South Pole

Braving sub-zero temperatures at the U.S. flag that
marks the South Pole is the second group of ISCAT
researchers who collected samples from December 2000
to January 2001, the summer season in Antarctica.
Link to 300-dpi JPG file (673K)

More than 15 years after the discovery of an ozone
hole in the stratrosphere over the Antarctic, the
remote continent is yielding another atmospheric
surprise.

A team of researchers led by the Georgia Institute of
Technology has found a surprisingly high level of an
air-purifying chemical (or oxidizing agent) in the
near-surface atmosphere over the South Pole. The
finding has implications for interpreting historical
global climate records stored in Antarctic ice cores.

The summertime 24-hour average value of the primary
atmospheric oxidant -- known as the hydroxyl (OH)
radical -- at the South Pole is higher than that
estimated from OH measurements recorded at the
equator. The researchers will report their findings
this fall in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.

The OH radical is widely recognized as vital to
scrubbing pollution and naturally occurring chemicals
from the air throughout the globe; it prevents a
buildup of toxic levels of these substances.

Researchers gathered information indicating that a
highly oxidizing environment exists at the South Pole.
Shown is the South Pole research station operated by
the U.S.
Link to 300-dpi JPG file (416K)

"What we now know is that the near-surface atmospheric
zone called the mixed layer (from the surface upward
to between 20 to 200 meters) is a highly oxidizing
environment at the South Pole," says Doug Davis, one
of the lead researchers and a professor in the Georgia
Tech School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences.
"Equally exciting, we are beginning to see evidence
that a lot of this oxidizing chemistry is also
occurring down in the snowpack. Thus, once things get
buried in the snow, there continues to be active
chemistry -- including oxidation -- that could further
modify chemical species before they are trapped in the
ice in their final chemical forms."

This finding suggests that glacio-chemists -- who
study climate change based on an analysis of trace
chemicals trapped in polar ice -- have to be far more
careful in their interpretation of Antarctic ice
cores, says Davis, whose research team is funded by
the National Science Foundation. Changes in some
chemical species buried may continue for another five
to 10 years after they are trapped in the snowpack.
Davis expects that scientists will soon focus more
attention on this topic.

Georgia Tech researcher Doug Davis digs a snow pit in
front of the Atmospheric Research Laboratory to
measure nitric oxide, nitrogen dioxide and ozone at
different depths below the snow's surface.
Link to 300-dpi JPG file (673K)

"Snow release of nitric oxide, which leads to the
formation of OH, can in principle occur anywhere
globally where there are accumulations of nitrate ions
in ice and there is also solar radiation," Davis says.
"Other researchers have found evidence of this
phenomenon in Summit, Greenland, and Alert, Canada.
What makes the South Pole unique is that the levels of
nitric oxide and other nitrogen oxides are nearly an
order of magnitude higher than anywhere else.

"But any significant elevation of nitric oxide at any
snow-covered location should result in an enhancement
of OH," Davis adds. "And, anytime you are producing
higher levels of OH, it means this chemistry is having
some local or regional impact. The final global impact
from this chemistry, however, is still unknown."

At the South Pole, researchers recorded OH radical
levels over a 24-hour period; the average measurement
was about 2 X 106 molecules per cubic centimeter of
air several days during their December 1998 to January
1999 expedition and again from December 2000 to
January 2001. These measurements are nearly an order
of magnitude higher than what they originally expected
to find based on their Antarctic coastal measurements
of nitric oxide, Davis says.

To measure OH, the scientists used the selected-ion
chemical-ionization mass spectrometer (SICIMS)
technique, which in the early 1990s became the first
sensitive method for measuring this radical. Georgia
Tech Adjunct Professor Fred Eisele, the other lead
researcher for this project, developed the SICIMS
technique at Tech. Eisele is also a senior research
associate at the National Center for Atmospheric
Research in Boulder, Colo.

To measure nitric oxide (NO), researchers used the
well-established chemiluminescence technique with
modifications to improve its sensitivity by an order
of magnitude. Nitric oxide, also a radical, is a
byproduct of internal combustion engines. But Davis
and his co-workers believe NO is formed at the South
Pole when ultraviolet radiation interacts with nitrate
ions. Scientists are not certain about the source of
the nitrate, but it could originate from stratospheric
denitrification processes and the long-range transport
of nitric acid formed at low latitudes during
electrical storms.

Although the factors that cause NO levels at the South
Pole to exceed 550 parts per trillion by volume of air
(pptv) are still under investigation, Davis believes
the most important factor is the atmospheric mixing
depth at the South Pole. This depth seems to be highly
variable at the pole and is sometimes no more than 25
meters above the surface. The Davis team's latest
results indicate large fluctuations in atmospheric
levels of NO without major changes in NO levels within
the snowpack.

Elevated levels of NO (20 to 550 pptv) in the
near-surface atmosphere react with the hydroperoxyl
radical -- a less reactive oxidizing agent than OH --
and are converted to OH and nitrogen dioxide. The
latter reacts with OH to produce nitric acid, which
can return to the snow, thus forming a closed cycle.

"It's not that this is new chemistry," Davis explains.
"Most of the time in the background remote atmosphere
where NO levels are typically less than 10 pptv, a
large fraction of the hydroperoxyl radical reacts with
itself and creates hydrogen peroxide, which is lost to
the surface. But at the South Pole, in the presence of
this large source of nitric oxide, the hydroperoxyl
radical predominantly reacts with NO to generate the
more reactive OH radical. Everybody tends to associate
nitric oxide levels with combustion, thus the South
Pole is one of the last places on earth that you might
expect to find nitric oxide in such large
concentrations."

Davis and his colleagues discovered the high NO and OH
radical levels in their funded research project to
study sulfur chemistry. The project, called ISCAT, for
the Investigation of Sulfur Chemistry in the Antarctic
Troposphere, began in 1994 with an expedition to
Palmer Station on the Antarctic Palmer Peninsula.
Specifically, the scientists are working to more fully
understand the oxidation of dimethyl sulfide (DMS)
under the cold conditions and high latitudes of
Antarctica. This information will also help
glacio-chemists better interpret sulfate and methane
sulfonate concentrations incorporated into the
continent's 400,000-year-old ice records, Davis says.

Sulfate is a chemical signature for both southern
hemispheric volcanic activity and major fluctuations
in phytoplankton populations in the Southern Ocean
that surrounds Antarctica. Phytoplankton lead to the
release of DMS from the ocean, part of which is
oxidized by OH to sulfate. Methane sulfonate is formed
only from DMS.

Antarctic ice cores have revealed clear evidence of
major volcanic activity in the Southern Hemisphere,
and together with methane sulfonate, evidence of
glacial and interglacial periods in the earth's
climate history. The level of DMS is a chemical
indicator of biomass production in the Southern Ocean,
which, in turn, reflects both water temperature and
solar radiation, Davis explains. So a more
comprehensive understanding of DMS chemistry around
and on the Antarctic should provide valuable
information in studying past climate changes, he adds.

Based on the results of the sulfur chemistry studies
led by Eisele and former Georgia Tech Research
Institute scientist Harald Berresheim at Palmer in
1994, Davis and his colleagues moved their ISCAT
research to the South Pole. They expected to record
significant atmospheric transport of sulfate and DMS
from the coast to the pole, which is 10,000 feet above
sea level.

"Well, our initial hypothesis was wrong, and we found
out why when went to the South Pole," Davis explains.
"There was very little unreacted DMS that reached the
South Pole because of the very high levels of OH in
the near-surface air at the South Pole -- and perhaps
more importantly -- over the entire polar plateau."

Elevated NO maintains a highly oxidizing environment
on the polar plateau 24 hours a day, Davis says. The
OH radical oxidizes most of the DMS before it reaches
the South Pole.

"The oxidizing environment at the South Pole is truly
astounding," Davis says. "We didn't expect it. And,
initially, it made no sense. Nobody had the foggiest
notion what was going on…. It was like finding some
distant planet's atmosphere plugged into Earth's
atmosphere, but having it limited to only the
Antarctic polar plateau."

The researchers hope to make more sense of their data
as they analyze measurements from their 2000-01 trip
during the next year. Already, Davis' colleague,
Associate Professor Greg Huey, may have identified a
new atmospheric nitrogen oxide species in the
Antarctic troposphere. The research team hopes to
return to Anarctica in 2003 to continue its study.
Other institutions represented in the ISCAT team are
the National Center for Atmospheric Research, New
Mexico State University, the University of California
at Irvine, Drexel University, the University of
Minnesota, the University of New Hampshire and Arizona
State University.

Mike,

I have printed this for Cater.

Dean
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Cross-post: Proof of HE, Orgone/Prana, or soft
particles?

Cheri Anderson to fantasticreality wrote:

--Mike

Mike... This is just a reply to a small part of your earlier emails. Specifically about Genesis.

Gerry in his EXCELLENT essay-book Analysis (From MU to Thule) on the One-Light website (Click on his Hollow Earth Title on left), mentions Churchward's 7 creative Commands.

But Gerry for some reason leaves off the material in Churchward's 2 important, purely SCIENTIFIC books, "Cosmic Forces of MU," books one and two. (see end of this email for the Chapter Headings in both books)

Both of you have said you've read Churchward's books, but neither of you has specifically mentioned those final two (above) SCIENCE oriented books and the extensive material in them. They are THE two books I have always found most important and valuable, with reasonable proofs for all his notions. Had I only read his first, second and third books (and one by another writer titled "Understanding MU") I probably would have put his material aside years back as interesting but not especially "important."

But those two "Cosmic Forces of MU" books stand alone as tremendously important and valuable concerning Science and the historical geological development of this planet and its LIfe forms. If anyone asks what Churchward books I suggest they read, it is those two. The others are very less important in my opinion.

For example, his OTHER 3 books contain (largely) many of his personal opinions and notions about countries and peoples that may or may not be valid. Certainly Churchward's story about the ancient White UIGHUR Empire in the Gobi and areas of Russia above China, contradict Dean's belief (or hope) that the White (Vedic?} Aryans in India AND Northern Europe came up through a North pole hole from (a Vedic kingdom in?) the HE.

Why the contradiction? Recall, from some of my past posts, Churchward wrote the UIGHUR Empire was first, half destroyed by the "last" magnetic cataclysm, possibly "around" 20,000 years ago (Readjusting Lurch of the Pole resulting in the Pacific spilling north over the mountainless Gobi and surrounding plains, an event lasting days at most, but mistaken by geology as the "ice age."), and finally was destroyed later by forming "gas belts" uplifting Mountain ranges in the area (Himalayas, etc.). According to Churchward, only remnants of Uighurs survived, uplifted in valleys WITHIN the Mountains. Over thousands of years (and loss of most of their earlier learning and technology, but retaining language) they increased in numbers, then later filtered down into northern India to become the Aryans. Other isolated mountain Uighur remnants also left the mountains to become the Medes and other peoples. That was Churchward's belief, right or wrong.
But I did want to get this "Genesis"-like material below to you. Here it is... - Dick
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Below is Churchward's "version" of Genesis as "7 commands of the Creator" taken from the MU tablets... Keep in mind his contention that Earth was formed by a CENTRIPETAL force (of the Creator) first gathering together hot elemental gases in space, rough and tumbling them into a spherical shape. Then the centripetal force worked them to a center as a vortex. The heavy gases rebounding outward from the center met incoming similar gases about the middle of the nebula and at that point of impact, some of the heavy gases cooled and combined mechanically and chemically to form the first line of crystals... Earth's beginning crust. (As you remember, some past space probes have detected areas of space unexpectedly containing (apparently) more HEAT (and gases?) than the heat they assume is "in" the Sun) - Dick
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From James Churchward's "Cosmic Forces of Mu" - Book One . Last chapter: "ADDENDA"
(Begins on P. 225) Following is Part One (of 2 parts)

Geology And The Cosmic Forces.

The Birth of the Earth. I will commence this chapter by saying what is said about the creation in the sacred writings of Mu. There the creation has been divided into seven commands of the Creator. It was written over 70,000 years ago in Mu.

Extracts: The first intellectual command was: "Let the gases which are scattered throughout space be collected together, and with them let worlds be formed."
Then the gases were brought together into whirling circulating masses.

The second intellectual command was "Let these gases cool and solidify."
Obeying this command, some of the gases cooled, solidified and formed round worlds. Gases were left on the outside of these worlds and there were gases contained within them. Darkness prevailed and there was neither light or sound, for as yet the atmosphere had not been created.

The third intellectual command was: "Let the outside gases be separated, so that they form the atmosphere and the waters." Then the outside gases were divided; one part went to form the waters, and the remainder formed the atmosphere.
The waters settled upon the face of the earth and covered it so that no dry land appeared above the waters anywhere.
Then the shafts of the sun struck the light which was in the atmosphere and gave it life, and light shone upon the face of the earth, and the shafts of the sun struck the heat in the atmosphere, and also gave it life, so that warmth fell upon the face of the earth.

"The fourth intellectual command was: Let the land appear above the waters."
The gaseous fires of the underneath, which were contained within the earth, lifted the land upon which the waters rested, and the land appeared above the face of the waters.

Commands 5, 6 and 7 refer to life only
(Note: at this point in his Cosmic Forces, book 1, Churchward, apparently for brevity, left out details about 5, 6 and 7. I am including them here taken from the beginning chapter of his first book "The Lost Continent of Mu" for those who have not read his first book - Dick Fojut)...
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The fifth command was:
" ' Let life come forth in the waters.' And the shafts of the sun met the shafts of the earth in the mud of the waters and there formed cosmic eggs (life germs) out of particles of the mud. Out of these cosmic eggs came forth life as commanded."

The sixth command was:
" 'let life come forth upon the land.' And the shafts of the sun met the shafts of the earth in the dust of the land, and out of it formed cosmic eggs; and from these cosmic eggs life came forth upon the earth as commanded."

And when all this was done, the seventh intellect said: "Let us make man after our own fashion, and let us endow him with powers to rule this earth."
"Then Narayana, the seven-headed Intellect, the Creator of all things throughout the universe, created man, and placed within his body a living, imperishable sprit, and man became like Narayana in intellectual power, Then was creation complete."
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Mike... Note: The 7 headed "serpent' was a SYMBOL for the Creator. They weren't serpent worshippers or controlled by serpent ET's! - Dick
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(From a separate chapter, parts out of context. Listing it because it is refers to the 3rd Command above)...
LIGHT.
Before commencing to discuss the subject of light, let us first see what our prehistoric forefathers wrote about it.
The Sacred, Inspired Writings of Mu.
Section. The Creation.

Sub-section. The Third Command.

"Let the outside gases be separated and let them form the atmosphere and the waters. And the gases were separated: one part went to form the waters, and the waters settled upon the face of the earth, and covered it, so that no land appeared anywhere. The gases that did not form the waters formed the atmosphere, and:
"The Light was contained in the atmosphere,
"And the shafts of the sun met the shafts of the earth in the atmosphere and gave it life. Then there was light upon the face of the earth."

Aitareya A'ram'ya. An ancient Hindu book. Slokas 4 - 8. "The atmosphere that contains the light."
Rig Veda. An ancient Hindu book. Pages 3 - 4.
"He who measures out the light in the air.."

The Nahuatl. From a Yucatan manuscript. "When One-yocax, the Creator who dwells in Himself, thought the time had come when all things should be created, He arose, and from His hands resplendent with light, He darted four arrows (the four great primary forces) which struck and put into motion the four elements that float in the atmosphere. The particles on being hit by the divine arrows became animated. ...Then appeared the first rays of the rising sun, which brought life and joy throughout nature.

* * * * * *
Light, heat and rays are so closely allied and intermingled that it becomes a difficult matter to speak of one without including the others.** Light is a force. Heat is a force. But rays are not forces. They are the carriers of forces.

* * * * * *
Light is an earthly force, a sub-division of the electromagnetic division of the earth's primary force. The light force forms its waves in the essence* in which the popular atmosphere floats.

When certain of the sun's affinitive forces which are carried in the light rays strike the earth's light force, which is held in suspension in the earth's atmospheric essence, it sets the earth's light force into movement, giving it life, as stated by the ancients. The movement of the force takes the form of waves. Each wave is made up of innumerable infinitesimally small sparks or flashes of the force.
Light travels through our atmosphere at the rate of 186,000 miles per second. Waves formed in the popular or analyzable part of our atmosphere are far too heavy and ponderous to travel at the rate of light, but the essence is so thin that this velocity is obtainable in it by the light force. At what rate the forces from the sun and other distant bodies pass through space, filled with an essence much thinner than that in which our atmosphere floats, I cannot say. Our distant stars are measured by light time calculated at 186,000 miles per second. How fast do the light forces travel through thin space? Much faster than here on earth without question. Therefore, it seems to me, the accepted distances of our distant suns are open for revision.

Between the sun's atmosphere and the earth's atmosphere the sun's rays are not seen. The space is a total darkness because there is no elementary matter in space to hold a light force in suspension. So the case stands: the male travels, the female waits. When they meet light results. One without the other is incapable of producing light.
That rays are not lost in space, although they pass through darkness and are not seen, is shown by the sun's rays coming into evidence again when they reach our atmosphere. This fact in turn is another proof that light is an earthly force: because, if it came from the sun, it would be seen all through space from the sun to the earth. It also proves that the essence of our atmosphere is elementary, although we cannot analyze it.
(*Note: Churchward uses the word "essence" instead of "ether." - Dick F.)

It also proves that that which fills space is not elementary, or if it is, the earth's light force cannot be carried by it, neither our sun's or any other great sun's. (End of Churchward's text)
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** The material about the difficulty of separating Rays, Heat and Light seems to indicate contradictions between Cater's "soft particle" theory (Light and Heat both contained) and Churchward's SEPARATE forces of Light and Heat. Both guys may be right - or one wrong. Hopefully, "Time" may prove which man's concepts are CLOSER to reality.
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Mike, following are the Chapter Headings of (in my opinion) Churchward's FINEST 2 books (and final books before his death). Cosmic Forces of MU Books, One and Two, dealing strictly with SCIENCE and the GEOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT OF OUR (hollow) EARTH. As I intimated at top, his other 3 books could be put aside and never need be read, because these two books can stand alone on their own merits in importance. If you have them, please carefully read them again. If not, try to get copies. Brilliant stuff. Solid proofs. But judge for yourself. Then give your opinions. - Dick

COSMIC FORCES OF MU
Volume One
By Colonel James Churchward

CONTENTS
Acknowledgements
Intoriduction

Ch. 1 Origin of the Great Forces
Ch. 2 The Earth's Forces
Ch. 3 The Atmosphere
Ch. 4 Rays
Ch. 5 The Life Force
Ch. 6 Specialization
Ch. 7 The Sun
Ch. 8 Sundry Phenomena

Addenda
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COSMIC FORCES OF MU
As they were taught in MU relating to the Earth.
Volume Two
By Colonel James Churchward

CONTENTS
Introduction

PART I
Ch. 1 The Birth of the Earth
Ch. 2 The Archaen Rocks
Ch. 3 Gas Chambers
Ch. 4 Coal
Ch. 5 The Cretaceous Period
Ch. 6 Mountains
Ch. 7 The Glacial Period

PART II
Ch. 8 Volcanic Gases and Workings
Ch. 9 Central America
Ch.10 South American Gas Belts
Ch.11 The Pacific Ocean
Ch.12 Asia and The Malays
Ch.13 Gas Belts of the Atlantic
Ch.14 Asia Minor and Vicinity
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EARTH. As I intimated

I've seen these final books but don't own them. I read copies
belonging to a roomate or friend, oh about 20 years ago!

If I get the opportunity to pick them up at a discount, I will do so.
But I'm still not convinced that Churchward was wholly right or
wholly wrong. Like I said before, I see him as just one
researcher and brave thinker among many.

--Mike

Dick Fojut <dfgraphics@g...> wrote to
Mike, following are the Chapter Headings of (in my opinion)

death).

with SCIENCE

EARTH. As I intimated

read,

in

again. If

Mike replied:
I've seen these final books but don't own them. I read copies
belonging to a roomate or friend, oh about 20 years ago!

If I get the opportunity to pick them up at a discount, I will do so. But I'm still not convinced that Churchward was wholly right or
wholly wrong. Like I said before, I see him as just one
researcher and brave thinker among many.

--Mike

Mike... Fair enough answer. - Dick

Mike and All: Churcward's GenesisList Members,

The following comments by Marshall B. Gardner are very appropriate.

Take a look at the attached image of the depression at the North pole of Mars. Maybe there is no large opening, but there certainly are some huge crevices. It may not seem so, but those things are easily a hundred miles wide or so. Maybe the light that emanated out of the opening came through them.

Soft particles accumulate in the interior of Mars just like they accumulate in the hollow portion of any other planet. When there is sunspot activity, the influx of soft particles through the shell speeds up and so does the accumulation in the cavity. I imagine that the soft particles which were already accumulated in the hollow portion of Mars got a " push " from behind, i.e., through the shell, such that they spurted out through the crevices and broke up into their constituent photons, giving off light.

Gardner:

And yet Professor Lowell asks us to believe- if this is really ice at the poles- that it is so permenent that two very steep slopes- so steep as to reflect light direct to the Earth- should keep their size and shapes and positions from 1846, when Mitchell saw them, until the present day. And we remember, also, Professor Newcomb's explanation that there is no snow or ice at the Martian poles but only immensely fine hoar frost- which could not possibly pile up into steep cliffs and reflect light to us in the way described. And even Professor Lowell himself, in his other book, " Mars as the Abode of Life," admits that it would be very hard to prove that the polar caps were composed of snow or hoar-frost, and that he could not have-- to his satisfaction--- proved it if it had not been that around the polar area was to be seen a band of dark blue which he took to be water from the melting ice of the snow-cap ( page 81 ). But
later on in the same book he speaks (page 140) of the well-known total disappearance of the one cap and the almost entire extinction of the other, showing how each summer melts what the winter had deposited, and that in both cases that is nearly the sum total of the cap.

But if both caps are thus depleted by each summer, how could a great ice cliff-again we ask the same question-remain since 1846 to reflect to us the light that Lowell saw?
No, there are too many contradictions there. Ice cliffs, if they formed in Jthe polar regions of Mars, would form at so many different angles and in so many different relative positions that flashes would be constantly sent over to us. There would be a display as continuous as that of heliograph signaling. As a matter of fact, what Lowell really did see was a direct beam-two direct beams at the same moment-flashing from the central sun of Mars out through the aperature of the Martian pole-does not the blue rim around that area to which Lowell has referred indicate the optical appearance of the reflecting surface of the planet gradually curving over to the interior so that at a certain part of the curve it begins to cease reflecting the light?--and the fact that it is not seen often simply shows that it is only when Mars is in a certain position with relation to the earth that we are able to penetrate the mouth of the polar opening and catch the direct beam.

Mike and All: Churcward's GenesisWhoops! I said " Take a look at the attached image of the depression at the North pole of Mars,"but I forgot to atach it. Here it is, above.

DD

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Ice at the Martian poles

List Members,

The following comments by Marshall B. Gardner are very appropriate.

Take a look at the attached image of the depression at the North pole of Mars

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