Crenshaw's new (?) hollow earth site

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Members,

This morning I had an e-mail from another researcher, asking
me to try this URL, as he couldn't get it to work:

or maybe
http://www.hollowearthinsider.org

I tried it, and it worked. Dennis Crenshaw's Hollow Earth Insider
was apparently online in a NEW form, and from what I could see,
it looked pretty cool. I didn't have time then to look at it, so I
planned to do so later.

Later came, I went back, and now "specified server is not found."

I know that Dennis has had some serious interference and
harassment in the past. Does anyone know what the heck is
going on here? Is he trying to get a site off the ground and
meeting with interference? Has anyone else here seen this new
website?

Thanks,

--Mike

Related thread: HE Site of Dennis — Same-day discussion of Crenshaw's relaunched Hollow Earth Insider

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Mike,

I just tried both URL's, and then an additional one with .net--and no go, page not found. I have never seen the site either. Must have some pertinent info there, or a glitch in his first page???

Leslee

MOTTIMORPH wrote:

Members,

This morning I had an e-mail from another researcher, asking
me to try this URL, as he couldn't get it to work:

http://www.hollowearthinsider.com
or maybe
http://www.hollowearthinsider.org

Later came, I went back, and now "specified server is not found."

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Mike... Got same message: "specified server is not found."

  • Dick
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A few people seem to have a problem finding my site... actually it isn't
scheduled to be up and completely running until the 4th of July... however
you shouldn't have a problem seeing it now... it's
www.thehollowearthinsider.com... tere are still a few glitches and typos to
be cleaned up... but enjpy
Dennis

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where most are making the mistake is they ate leanig the "the" out www.the

Dennis

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Members,

Since we discuss Cater's soft particles so much in relation to HE geo
processes, I figure that I might as well venture a definition, right?

Let's start here. the light we see is comprised of photons, it is photons.
Mr. Cater tells us that photon particles have zonal forces such that when
they collide with each other, they stick together in aggragates which are
nothing but soft particles. So soft particles are comprised of light, that's
all.

Let's talk about the nature of soft particles and what they do. By saying
particles, we are referring to electrons just like atoms have. The
difference is that the electrons that we know about are hard electrons, but
the atoms have other electrons orbiting the nucleus, soft electrons aka soft
particles.

Although soft particles are comprised of photons of light, they are
invisible. Aggragated into soft particles, our retinas don't perceive them.
A good analogy is that of bricks and a house. Although a house may be built
of bricks, a house and a brick function differently.

Soft particles do reflect light, however. Our sense of touch is occaisioned
by electrons and protons of the gamma frequency, and our vision is
occaisioned by photons which are reflected by soft particles which are also
in the atom. Soft particles exist in frequencies below gamma, such as in the
visual range. When you drive out or neutralize the soft particles, you then
have " the invisible man " : hard matter, but no photons reflected, i.e.,
invisibility. Yogis and mystics can do this.

Consider this- we know that more solar energy strikes the planet than is
radiated back out. Science, as yet, has no explanation for this. But
remember that science does not perceive nor recognize soft particles. When
photons from the sun strike the Earth and penetrate a yard or two, they
collide with each other, and interact with ethers also passing through, and
the electrons of Earth's matter. Then the photons stick to each other and
bunch up and form soft particles- electrons, but from light.

In this way they acquire lower and lower frequencies and pass through the
Earth's shell unperceived. Of course they are going to experience a slowing
of their frequency- what are they supposed to do, speed up as they pass
through a substance? No, they will slow down.

As the frequency dimishes, they reach the frequency which induces gravity
effects, then further down they leave that frequency and pass to another.
Gravity diminishes. " gravity shielding," it's called.

These soft particles which penetrate also get broken up further down and
release light, omnipresent luminosity, in cavern worlds below. This
phenomena is presented in Etidorhpa.

The soft particles also capture hardparticles,the ones responsible for the
sense of touch INCLUDING heat, and when the soft particles break up below,
they release heat and electricity which powers geological processes such as
Earthquakes, geysers, and volcanoes. This function has its counterpart in
biology, in the phenomenon known as carrier cells, which engulf and
transport a cell through a membrane which couldn't penetrate onits own. Some
viruses are able to penetrate in this way.

Speaking of geological processes, the soft particles and their captured hard
ones, penetrate on through the shell and characterize the environment of the
cavity. They also form and fuel the inner sun. now you know how the inner
sun is formed and what it is made of.

The soft particles build up in the cavity and pass through the polar
orifices, largely unperceived, as soft particles are not visible to our
eyes. But when they get pushed from behind by a heavy build up caused by
sunspot activity, then those soft particles shooting out of the orificebreak
up into their constituent photons of light. Now you know what really causes
the auroral display.

Nobody else is going to carry this knowledge forward except for you all
because nobody else who read Cater understood him AND gathered together
other folks in a group. ( Some people have stolen bits and pieces, bits and
pieces because they couldn't understand the whole model ) Other hollow
Earthers are not into this school of thought because they stay more within
orthodox parameters and because of the basic nature of human beings ( I will
not elaborate )

If anyone else comes along and bandies about these processes and this HE geo
model, well, just remember- Cater gave it to you first. His book was
copyrighted in 1982 and he had written and published before that.

Now you are ready to read A Comprehensive, Hollow Earth Geological Model by
Yours Truly, HugeDomains.com And don't
forget to click on the Cater link.

If not me, then who?
If not now, then when?

Later,

Dharma/Dean

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Members-

Introducing Dennis Crenshaw! A long-time hollowEarther who can tell usa lot.Nobody has been a hollow Earther as longas Dennis.

I can't wait until I read your bulletin, The Hollow Earth Insider. I am glad that you resurrected it.

later,

Dharma/Dean

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At 04:42 AM 6/23/01 -0700, you wrote:

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O'Dell,

What is your address?

DD

[email protected]

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Dean... About "PHOTONS," those apparently universally causative particles.

I continue to puzzle greatly about Cater's belief that "soft particle" PHOTONS (Light) from the Sun are responsible for most of earth's important geological processes and possibly most other familiar phenomena. And I continue to be unable to reconcile posted Cater views with views on the same subjects presented by BOTH Churchward - AND by Pratt in Pratt's several revealing Earth and Gravity web analyses.

When Cater uses the word "FREQUENCY," is he using the word to describe the VIBRATORY rate Photons move? (vibrating faster or slower, "lower" or "higher"?) Or (and) is he describing the wave LENGTH of vibrations? Trying to understand approximately what he means by "Frequency." Used "frequently," "FREQUENCY" seems inseparably important to ALL effects resulting from Photons from the Sun.

According to one of your more recent emails plus a Cater excerpt about the Sun posted by Leslee, and your following email "definition" with explanations of Cater's soft particles theory, PHOTONS (light particles) radiating from our Sun, ALONE seem responsible for most (or all) of earth's geological phenomena.

Correct me if I'm re-stating any of these incorrectly from Cater's explanations, but does Cater believe the following to be true?...

  • Both earth's LIGHT and HEAT are caused by Photons from the Sun and/or their disintegration (in the atmosphere and especially in the crust). Dean,.as you explained below, Photons from the Sun collide and stick together in aggregates, forming "soft particles," or "light, that's all."
  • The Sun's Photons become Earth's "Source of Gravity?" At one depth (50 miles or whatever) and a different "frequency," the Photon "soft particles" INDUCE GRAVITY EFFECTS. (Dean, that SEEMS a giant deviation from Newton's thinking about masses and gravity - and a deviation from Churchward's "central" magnet in the crust being the source of gravity for earth's elemental particles.)
  • "Gravity shielding." Going deeper and at another "frequency" of the Photon "soft particles," Gravity diminishes.
  • "Omnipresent luminosity." Further down the Photon "soft particles" get broken up and release LGHT.
  • "From captured hard particles"... "responsible for HEAT"... when the Photon "soft particles" break up they release heat and electricity which powers geological processes such as Earthquakes, geysers and volcanos. (Does Cater believe these are the cause of ALL Earthquakes, geysers and volcanos?) Apparently so, because in the following he explains...
  • EARTHQUAKES as well as "upheavals and the folding of strata to produce mountain ranges" come about from a "concentration of negative charges, resulting from the penetration of soft particles from the Sun."
    Specifically, he explained, Photon "soft particles from the Sun." combined with "radiation of the matter inside Earth"... "cause fractures and the sliding and folding of strata over each other." and when a critical stage of concentration of charges is reached, "The sudden discharge of hard electrons"... "produces an explosion."
    Because the "hard particles are partially confined, tremendous forces are released causing the Earth to shake" From the preceding descriptions Cater asserted: "The origin of earthquake is now apparent." and he added: "A similar phenomena produces lightning."
  • The Photon "soft particles" from the Sun penetrate earth's crust and "form and fuel the inner sun." It is made of aggregates of Photon "soft particles."
  • Photons result in the auroral display. Invisible Photon "soft particles," in the HE cavity, pushed "from behind" by sunspot activity, "shoot out of the orifice, and break up into their constituent photons of light."
  • The Sun. Apparently as a authoritative statement of fact, not as his hypothetical theory, Cater explains conditions inside the Sun and the cause of Sunspots. Leslee posted a paragraph from P. 224 of his book. In the Sun's "relatively cool" interior "the temperature gradually builds up over eons of time. The effects of the disintegration and dispersion of soft particles generated by the activity of the fundamental particles, slowly increase the temperature throughout the interior." Temperature increases "the rate of disintegration of particles." "The more stable particles concentrate near the surface"...reach... "a critical state, and explosion results..." "This is the cause of sunspots which function as relief valves. This condition has its parallel on Earth in the form of volcanoes."

Dean, do the above mirror Cater's general beliefs about Photons and earth's geological phenomena? They cover a broad field, but much is not mentioned...
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Here are some I'd like to know about. From reading his books, can you briefly describe his OTHER broad beliefs and his explanations about the following...

  • Has Cater described in detail, THE BIRTH OF THE EARTH? How did it come into existence? From a nebula of hot gases? Ejected from the Sun? Space dust collecting on a spirit bubble as in Etidorhpa? What is Cater's conception?

  • How did a HOLLOW come to be geologically formed in Earth's center?

  • Does Cater believe similar hollows exist in other planets (obviously not the Sun from his above earlier statements) and if so did they result from similar causes that formed Earth's hollow?

  • How were Earth's primary unstratified granite rock layers, overlaid with stratified Gneiss rocks layers formed?

  • Is Cater aware, like Churchward, that SIX atomic elements only, compounds of Oxygen, Aluminum, Silicon, Magnesium, Calcium, and Potasslum, went into the composition of Earth's primary granite rock? And that metals like iron, do not appear until higher up in the Gneiss rock layers? Pratt, also quoting Pari Spolter's similar opinion, suggested the rarity of those heavy elements deep down, seem to make it unlikely there is an iron-nickel ball at the center of the earth.
    Also, is Cater aware the elements from which explosives are formed are not included, such as Nitrogen, Hydrogen, Sulphur, Carbon, etc.? These gases did not in any way enter into the make-up of the granite rock, but remained as gases, within the forming crustal rocks.

  • What does Cater believe beginning earth looked like? After solidifying or whatever way he conceived it was formed, was Earth first completely covered by water (as Churchward claims)? If not, how did thick sedimentary rock layers come to be formed on top of and into upended Gneiss rock layers everywhere - especially now that Pratt writes that unsuspected former surface rocks have been found under ocean beds ?

  • Does Cater dismiss Churchward's explanation of giant bubbles of explosive non-solidifying gases (mentioned above) having formed within earth's granite rock crust at Earth's beginning? Since he is probably completely unaware of Churchward, does Cater have any OTHER explanation for the vast volumes of such explosive volcanic gases existing in earth's crust now and in far greater volumes in past millions of years?

  • Does Cater, with the orthodox, believe there was an ice age of thousands of years duration? And if so, does he believe there were gigantic glaciers capping both ends of the earth? And if he does, WHAT does he believe caused the ice age (or other presumed earlier ice ages)? Has Cater any awareness that (as James Churchward found on late 1800s expeditions to Russia and Asia) there is no trace of a great ice cap glacier almost to the pole on the Asian side at the SAME latitudes that miles thick of ice were supposed to be covering the Canadian and American side of the globe? Or was Cater aware that instead of an Asian glacier, there is evidence of great waves of water, without ice, that MOVED NORTH over the Gobi, parts of Asia and ancient Russia, heading to the pole, and beyond?

  • Does Cater have any comparable concept of a LIFE or VITAL FORCE existing IN earth's atmosphere? And that this LIFE FORCE powers the elemental chemical compounds of living creatures and plant life? That explanation comes from Churchward...
    As Churchward described the "Life Force," it is a compound of forces, similar in "appearance" to the electron, as a 4 cornered "star," before separating into globes and going into orbit around atoms, causing the atoms to rotate. The Life Force is responsible for "powering" all living organisms, according to Churchward.
    The compound is composed of several other "invisible" forces, including a magnetic "combining" force - and THE HEAT FORCE, all in exact proportions to one another. Who assigned the proportions? "The Universal Mind" (label meant especially for Frode).
    As the general temperature of the earth dropped from boiling hot temperatures to super hot tropical, the volume of the compound life force in the atmosphere also dropped in volume. According to Churchward, as the Heat Force lessened in the atmosphere, it was mirrored by a proportional lessening of the Heat Force in the compound life force. One could know that as the temperature of the Heat Force in the compound lessened, in proportion, the other forces in the compound also lessened. The dropping temperature of earth's atmosphere was a measure of the lessening life force.
    According to Churchward, the chemically SIMPLE compounds of elements of earth's early life forms, required a LARGE VOLUME of the compound Life Force to "balance" their chemical compounds, to give them Life. A large volume was needed to set their parts, starting with atomic orbits, into MOTION and activity or "LIFE." (In contrast, the more complex an organism, the less volume of Life Force needed to power it.}
    As the general temperature of the earth dropped, so did the volume of the Life Force in the atmosphere. The lowered life force became inadequate to "balance" the chemical compounds of the SIMPLER organisms and they died out. From their debris, "Nature" fashioned brand new MORE COMPLEX life forms that could be "balanced" with a lesser volume of the Life Force. Using debris, some resemblance carried over to each form, but the new groups were chemically different and more complex that the creatures of the former period.
    Over many millions of succeeding years, as the earth's temperature gradually continued to drop, with the volume of Life Force in the atmosphere similarly lowered, a succession of new, a little more chemically complex life forms began, reached maturity and died out, each group being replaced by a new group of MORE COMPLEX forms. The great reptiles of the Jurassic period began to die out as the (relatively cooler) long Cretaceous period passed its mid point. The Life force was too low to "balance" their simpler chemical compounds. Their eggs failed to hatch and their homes, the swamps were turning to marshes. New sets of chemically MORE COMPLEX reptiles began, matured and began to die out as the EOCENE period approached, for the same reasons as prior reptile extinctions. Their eggs failed to hatch. The volume of Life Force in the atmosphere had become too low to "balance" their generative parts and fluids.
    By the Eocene period the giant reptiles had disappeared and were everywhere replaced by dog sized animals, like the Eocene horse (about 2 feet high at the shoulders) with long, wading toes for the soft, marshy ground prevalent all over the earth at the time. By the time the Tertiary period began, earth temperatures became balanced and the volume of Life Forces in the atmosphere stabilized to the end of time.
    Dean, does Cater know anything at all about what I've described above from Churchward? If so, what parts has Cater discussed? Or if not, what are Cater's BIOLOGICAL beliefs about earth's changing species - since Cambrian times? And also, if not, how does Cater explain the dying out of the dinosaurs? Better be as good or better an explanation than Churchward's!

Dean, I'd like to know about other of CATER's beliefs, but the preceding cover a lot. Could keep you busy answering or commenting for a long time. At least clear up what Cater means by "FREQUENCY."
- Dick Fojut
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Dean's email follows (with my bold facing of lines that stick out to me) ...

all.

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Additional question from Dick Fojut to Dean....
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Dean, following are some of those accepted orthodox "definitions" I lampooned as imprecise, from Jastrow and Thompson's textbook "Astronomy, Fundamentals and Frontiers." How do they Jibe with Cater's definition of Photon as used in your email above, if at all?
* PHOTON: "Electromagnetic ENERGY in its particle form."
* QUANTUM (OF LIGHT): "Electromagnetic ENERGY in its particle form. Same as Photon." (Dean, RADIATED Electromagnetic energy particles.)
* LIGHT: "Same as electromagnetic RADIATION. Usually light means the VISIBLE portion of the electromagnetic spectrum."
* VISIBLE LIGHT: "Electromagnetic RADIATION to which the eye is sensitive."
* ELECTRON: "A small negatively charged PARTICLE that may be found in orbit around the nucleus of an atom."
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Isnt this strange
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Hi,

Dean might want to respond too, but I'm dumping in my two cents. My comments follow:

At 08:34 PM 6/25/2001 -0700, you wrote:

So far as I know (and I have only read his '84 book), he does not. However, it is reasonable to leave this stage out, since we do not scientifically know whether it was created by natural processes, supernatural processes, part of both.

My understanding is that it has been there from the beginning, when the Earth was created.

Yes, and yes.

I'm not sure about these last two points, I'm afraid that they'd be much better explained by someone with more knowledge of geology.

He believes that beginning Earth was created in a logical manner by "Elders." Of course, to accept soft particle theory does not require that we agree with everything stated by one of its proponents. I believe that the Earth was created by YHVH, JHVH, Jehovah, Yahweh, or whatever his actual name is (it can be difficult since it's a transliteration from ancient Hebrew).

I once used the analogy that it exists/doesn't exist. That isn't quite right, but "FREQUENCY" refers to how many pulsations each particle has. In each pulsation, the particle is detectable, and then "de-materialized." A very bad explanation, I know, but maybe it will give you an idea of what he's talking about.

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Nathan... Thanks for your interesting contributions. Adding more to Dean's reply, especially your comment about Cater believing the "Elders" created earth in a "logical manner." No disagreement on that. We all agree it wasn't some "accidental" falling together by chance that many materialistic physicists seem to assume.

  • Dick