Books and things

Hi All--

I just completed reading the digest from yesterday. Lot's of good thoughts for blending new topics with old.

I think this list is comprised of many brilliant free thinkers, and that there has been very good alternative information which has been posted over the months. I will also say that I agree that quite a bit of information and many suggestions go ignored. And, that I do not agree that it should be left entirely up to the one who posts their ideas and findings to keep the topic alive by continually feeding members who give them no response for there efforts. Might as well be talking to themselves.

I am going to mention just a few of the people who I feel have contributed immensely to our quest, yet, I am amazed at how their ideas and posts go unnoticed. If I miss anyone, I apologize ahead of time, as I am just going to mention who comes to mind presently, so I am sure I will miss quite a few of you.

Ralph is a literal encyclopedia for both planets and HE. Ask the man anything about what has ever been written, recorded, or told, about a HE and he will have an answer for you. His brain is a file cabinet! But, I see him continually posting great information which no one comments on, then have to chuckle to myself when someone asks him a question and he says--"Yes, I sent a post in about that a few months back but I didn't;t get any interest from anyone."

MaTa - This woman is a super sleuth. She can find anything that is deeply hidden, I have never seen a better surfer. She understands and has tried to present her case for the connection between earthworks, sacred geometry and possible HE areas--she has given us myths to go along with her reasoning. She also brought up a great point about miners--what have they seen?

Dallas - He suggested Fraggle Rock, and I asked my daughter about the show. Brook recalled the show completely and said it was indeed about people living in the earth. And, she mentioned a few other shows and books. Like The Hobbit being one.

Gerry - He has a page on Onelight with very intriguing articles, he is a balance between the right and left brain. Mystic and Logic woven together and always thinking.

Dennis has mentioned pre 1900 books on several occasions and I agree with him. There is one later writer who marvels me with his genius, I think he is still writing---Umberto Eco--the man is a literary guru and most famous for his book "The Name of the Rose"---but my favorite book of his is Foucault's Pendulum--a masterpiece, and it will certainly expand your mind about the mysteries of all a HE by blending sacred geometry, along with the secrets the knights have passed down over the years. His is an Italian writer--and I believe at one time was a monk, now he teaches cat a University. He writes stories within stories within stories, and it peels clues like an onion, a little at time. I highly recommend any of his books. Most are in paperback and inexpensive--all are very long 600-800 hundred pages full of symbols, thoughts, philosophy, politics, and secrets. he also has a book, can not recall the title, where a man is in a ship on the water, broke done and alone and he begins to imagine ? is Irving another world? I heard it was good--just haven't had the time to explore it yet. I have given a brief example of his work at the end of this post.

Mike has studied caves and caverns inside out. Anyone who wants to explore caves and caverns to see if they lead into a HE should study his cavern creatures first.

Laura brought up the underground system in NY, a good idea, as most of us are probably living above, if not HE entrances, then intricate tunnel systems.

Hazel when she as on the list was a wizard at ley lines and geometry, earthworks and well read. Very few took what she had to say and really give it thought it.

Dick has been wanting us to look at Churchward for almost forever now.

Matt and Kev have already been mentioned

Maya used to post some very goods points from a spiritual angle that I loved reading.

Dean of course has much to offer about the poles, and I do believe there are entrances there too.

Many others offer both insight and ask excellent questions which lead us in to areas of thought where we may not have previously traveled.

I think we need to combine earthworks, scared geometry, star alignments, some science, fictional books written before the 1900's, movies that have been made, works of art, music, religions and myths. If we weave all this material together, which can be done with this eclectic group, then I bet we would see more possibilities than we could eve imagine.

I also think Cater, Etidorhpa, and the Smoky God are great pieces, lets take what we have learned from them and expand on it.
If we could somehow broach the subject of the hierarchy of churches without anyone taking the comments personally, I also think we could discover a lot. In all religious works.

FYI - Umberto Eco, a few of his works that are worth reading--a modern day writer who will twist your mind completely.

In The Search for the Perfect Language (1995) Eco examined the history of the idea, that there once existed a language, spoken before the collapse of the Tower of Babel, which perfectly expressed the essence of all possible things and concepts. Belief or Nonbelief (2000) is an exchange of letters between Umberto Eco and Carlo Maria Martini, the Roman Catholic cardinal of Milan.

Eco's second novel, IL PENDOLO DI FOUCAULT (1988, Foucault's Pendulum), encompassed the whole history of mankind. The narrator is a young philosophy professor, Causabon, who decides with his friends to make believe the Templarians had elaborated a plan that was going to lead them to the control of all the energy in the world. The friends invent a map and place it under Foucault's pendulum in the Conservatoire des Arts et Métiers in Paris. The plan leads the friends to their deaths.

In an interview in 1989 Eco stated that "to write a third novel is like to write thirty of them, and it doesn't make much sense." However, in 1995 appeared Eco's new novel L'ISOLA DEL GIORNO PRIMA (The Island of the Day Before). The protagonist, Roberto della Griva, a seventeenth-century nobleman, finds himself in the South Pacific stuck upon a mysteriously abandoned ship after a violent storm. With nothing else to do, Roberto recalls chapters from his youth, but finally realizes that he isn't alone. His elusive shipmate turns out to be Father Caspar, who has unlocked the very secrets of time and distance that Roberto was supposed to secure. Together Roberto and Caspar attempt to reach a nearby island.

Il nome della rosa (1980) - The Name of the Rose - bestseller novel set in the 14th-century Italian abbey where the power of life and death lies with the Inquisition. William of Baskerville, accompanied by his novice Adso of Melk, try to prove that series of murders are not the work of Devil. They found that the blind librarian Jorge de Burgos - a homage to the Argentinean writer Jorge Luis Borges - is behind the murders: he protects Aristotle's missing manuscript about comedy, the lost second book of Poetics. The abbey library and monastery burns down in an infernal fire and the manuscript disappears. - The book was adapted into screen and directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud. The film took place at Klöster Eberbach near Frankfurt, where time has stood still since 12th-century. The outside was build on a hill near Rome, the largest exterior set Europe has seen since the making of Cleopatra. Il nome della rose has been translated into more than sixteen languages. It won in 1981 two of Italy's main literary awards: the Premio Viareggio and the Premio Strega.

What A Foucault Pendulum Should Do
"Thus we may see", quoth he, "how the world wags" . (1)
If you sit and watch the Foucault pendulum for an hour, you will "see" that the plane of the swing of the iron ball slowly shifts anti-clockwise by about 8.4 degrees per hour. This is an optical illusion. The building is actually shifting "under" the Foucault Pendulum!
The Foucault Pendulum (support + wire + iron ball) is attached to this building. The building is attached to the Planet Earth, which rotates on its own axis about once every 24 hours. The Earth also goes around the Sun, once every year. The Sun, in turn, goes around the centre of our galaxy, The Milky Way, once every 250 million years. These are all local motions.

The Foucault Pendulum somehow ignores all these local motions! The Foucault Pendulum somehow aligns itself with the Rest of The Universe.

Imagine that the Foucault Pendulum is set up at the Geographic South (or North) Pole (this is the simplest case - the motions are a little more complicated anywhere away from the poles).(2) Imagine that you, very carefully, release the ball, and imagine that the wind resistance is so low that the ball will swing for days. Over the next week or so, the ball will keep on swinging in the same plane in which you first launched it. The Pendulum will swing in a plane that is fixed relative to the distant stars (or The Rest Of The Universe), and the Earth will rotate "under" the Pendulum. So over the time of a 24-hour day, the Foucault Pendulum will appear to gradually sweep out a 360 degree circle.

How does the Foucault Pendulum "know" to ignore local motions (3), and line itself up with the distant stars? Some reputable physicists say that we really don't know.

Perhaps it's a case of Newton's First Law of Motion "A body will try to keep on doing whatever it's doing, unless acted upon by an external force." So a body that is still will not move, unless a force tries to push it. In another example of Newton's First Law, a body that is moving will keep on moving, unless an external force tries to stop it. This desire of a body to keep on doing whatever it's doing, is called inertia. Nobody really understands what inertia is. The traditional explanations involve some circular reasoning. The reasoning goes like this.

A body will keep on doing whatever it's doing is because of its inertia. And inertia is the tendency of a body to keep on doing whatever it's doing. But why does it keep on doing what it's doing? Because of its inertia. But what is inertia? The tendency of a body to keep on doing whatever it's doing. And so on.

At the North and South Poles, the Foucault Pendulum will take 24 hours to sweep out a complete 360 degree circle. This motion is anticlockwise in the Southern Hemisphere, and clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere. At the Equator, it will take an infinite time to sweep out a complete 360 degree circle.(4) At the latitude of Sydney, it will take about 43 hours to sweep out a complete 360 degree circle . This works out to about 8.4 degrees every hour, or about 42 degrees in 5 hours. If you sit and watch the Pendulum, you will soon see a change. In fact, you could draw on the ground a 43-hour clockface, and read the time off it!

History Of Foucault Pendulum

The Foucault Pendulum was invented by accident.

In 1848 Leon Foucault was setting up a long, skinny metal rod in his lathe. He "twanged" it, and the end of the piece of metal proceeded to go up-and-down. If you treat the chuck of the lathe like a clock, the end vibrated from 12 o'clock down to 6 o'clock, and back to 12 o'clock, and so on. He slowly rotated the chuck by 90 degrees. But the end of the metal rod steadfastly vibrated back-and-forth between 12 and 6 o'clock!

This set Leon Foucault thinking. He set up a small pendulum in his drill press. He set the pendulum oscillating, and then started the drill press. Once again, the pendulum kept swinging in its original plane, and ignored the fact that its mounting point was rotating.

He then constructed a 2 metre-long pendulum with a 5 kilogram ball in his workshop in his cellar. Before the amplitude of the swing died away totally, he saw that the weight on the end of the pendulum appeared to rotate clockwise . Now that he was convinced of the principle, he built a second pendulum with an 11-metre wire in the Paris Observatory, and it too rotated clockwise.(5)

He was asked to construct something "big" for the 1850 Paris Exhibition, and he constructed a 67-metre tall Foucault Pendulum in the Panthéon - a Parisian church also known as the church of Saint Geneviève. He went to a great deal of trouble to make sure that the wire was perfectly symmetrical in its metallurgy. He used a 28 kilogram cannon ball. A stylus was placed under the ball, and sand was scattered under the potential path of the ball, so that the stylus would cut a trace in the sand.

The ball was pulled to one side, and held in place with a string. With much ceremony, the string was set alight, and the ball began to describe a beautiful, straight (non-elliptical) path in the sand. Within a few minutes, the pendulum had begun to swing a little clockwise - and the previous, narrow straight-line in the sand had widened to look like a twin-bladed propeller. The experiment was a success! The Earth rotated "under" his pendulum.

So it was possible, way back in 1850, to set up an experiment inside a room which had no view of the outside world, and prove that the Earth rotated! (6)

The next year, Foucault repeated his Pendulum experiment with a massive, spinning weight. He showed that this weight, just like his Pendulum, ignored local effects and lined itself up with the distant stars. He had invented the gyroscope!

In 1955, Mr. H. Luns, the Dutch Foreign Minister presented to the United Nations a Foucault Pendulum for installation in the entrance hall of the United Nations building in New York.

In October 1995, the original Foucault Pendulum was reinstalled in the Pantheon, using the original lead-coated brass ball.

Progress Report for Foucault Pendulum
The Foucault Pendulum is currently working. The main problems involved in making a Foucault Pendulum are starting the ball in a swing that passes through the true centre point of the swing, keeping the ball in that "true" swing (and not going into an elliptical swing), and pumping energy into the swing so that it does not die down. Three subsystems were set up to achieve these goals, and currently, they are all operational.

Thanks Leslee,

Each of us are very different from one another, but we all have a
common interest here. Being fairly new to this quest myself, I know
some of what I post is "old news" to some, but not perhaps to all.:slight_smile:

And speaking of such, I found this link, I don't think this guy is
into the HET as you will see, but he sure gathered lots of Antartic
"fiction" links. Perhaps some of them are new to you all. (grin) Many
are to me.

"Tekeli-li" Annotated Bibliography of
Antarctic Fiction

Main page:http://www.antarctic-circle.org/

MaTa

Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Clouds and gravity

Scott,

We are getting close to being on the same page. By mass product I'll
assume that you are referring to gravity related to the density of
mass. Well, it is. Mr. Cater even admits that. But not on a planetary
scale, something happens which changes the correspondence.

After all, can it not be stated that if the

Not exactly a normal extension of things because orthodox sceince
doesn't admit that negatively charged soft particles are harbored
between water molecules.

All gravity does is effect material bodies and it

No, it is not a stand alone phenomenon. The charge needs mass to have
a charge on, so to speak.

It is a matter of a net positive charge responding. matter carries a
net, positive charge, a slight one. Cater cites an experiment by
Richard Lipmann in this regard. ( I will send these comments
separately and call them comment on Lipmann ) With clouds, the
particles are repulsed by the gravitational field.

This for all the world makes it appear that the

Fine. But when the frequency changes, gravity effects are no longer
induced. Then you still have matter with a charge on it, you still
have mass, but no gravity effects. This is the key.

Einstein's famous formula right or wrong

Alright, the particles on mass have a charge on them. Cater doesn't
deny this. It is just that, with penetration, the frequency isn't
going to remain the same, there is no reason foritto speed up, so
what is it going to do? the timewill come when it slows down. Lower
frequency results, that's outside of the rangethat inducesgravity.

Your side of the coin becomes incorrect when hundreds of miles of the
Earth's shell come to lack the gravity charge. Rock becomes like
cork. ( The effects diminish gradually, it doesn't happen at exactly
50 miles. )

Snip-

Jan Lamprecht if memory serves me suggested in his book

Jan hedged his bets and left open many possinbilities.But he did
state that gravity doesn't exhibit repulsion and that it cannot,
therefore, be electromagnetic. The negative charge carried by soft
particles is noteasy to perceive, so no one understands how it is
that clouds are imbued with the negative charge.

But Cater is ascribing effects to electromagnetic repulsion, i.e.,
antigravity, which go beyond turbulence, air resistence and such.

Suggesting that water having a mass HAS

Tons of water simply float. Isn't this a definite, repeatable
experiment which disproves that mass occasions gravity?

By null gravity you mean where- within the crust, between surfaces?
Or at the central point of a sphere?

Gravity exists along the outer and inner surfaces, but in the middle
diminishes very much. At one point, there should be a strata of no
gravity. Then further inwards, it picks up again.

Below you talk about gravity effects along the inner shell. The nner
shell also has gravity effects which are induced just below the
surface, although not as strongly as along the outer surface. The
frequency of light particles and soft particles within the cavity
penetrate the inner shell and help to create the negatively charged,
gravity-inducing radiation along the inner surface, too.

Without studying my latest program data, you

Next time I'm down ther, I'll measure.

# ; ^ )

You have the concept, the rest it details.

Do let me know what you think.

Dean

Even if there was such a change or incomplete penetration of