Leslee, For one hundred years academics have been afraid to acknowledge Atlantis, because it would have destroyed their credibility. Even now, Graham Hancock, while clambering over the ruins of this lost civilization, daren't mention the 'A' word, just incase. But, with the advent of a Disney movie, it's suddenly acceptable, even FOUND! My own instinct and Ignatius Donnelly's study leads me to believe the Azores and Caribbean Islands are it's last visible vestiges. My fellow Atlantologist, Arysio, insists he's found it in Indonesia. He has worked on his hypothesis for decades and he's definately found something. But all the things that are in the hollow earth, he places in Atlantis, he thinks it is the lost paradise....he is wrong (in my opinion.) http://www.atlan.org/ It's still an informative web-site. Hazel
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Leslee, For one hundred years academics
have been afraid to acknowledge Atlantis, because it would have
destroyed their credibility. Even now, Graham Hancock, while
clambering over the ruins of this lost civilization, daren't mention
the 'A' word, just incase. But, with the advent of a Disney movie,
it's suddenly acceptable, even FOUND! My own instinct and Ignatius
Donnelly's study leads me to believe the Azores and Caribbean Islands
are it's last visible vestiges. My fellow Atlantologist, Arysio,
insists he's found it in Indonesia. He has worked on his hypothesis
for decades and he's definately found something. But all the
things that are in the hollow earth, he places in Atlantis, he thinks
it is the lost paradise....he is wrong (in my opinion.) http://www.atlan.org/
It's still an informative web-site. HazelAttachment converted: MAC HD #1 -2GB:Atlantis - The Lost Continent F
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Hazel (from Dick)... Have been
reading around your friend Arysio's Atlantis website. Lots of
interesting stuff. But WHY he places ATLANTIS in the Pacific puzzles
me.
He also appears to equate Lemuria (MU)
with or as Atlantis!
Again, ANOTHER researcher who either
never heard much (or certainly never read much) about James
Churchward. No one can rightfully criticize (or praise)
Churchward until they have fully read his works. Aside from one other
member of this list (and yourself) I am not aware of ANY of today's
better known researchers who are fully (or even partially) aware of
James Churchward . Near total ignorance. Seems incredible to me. A
key brick left out of the wall of knowledge they've built.
Hazel, as you probably already know,
Churchward lived in India for 30 years, spoke and wrote several
languages (including Tamil fluently), obviously loved the country and
people. According to him, after the surfaces of MU in the Pacific
(and subsequently Atlantis in the Atlantic) collapsed below the waves
during the forging of gas belts, he described India's "Independent
Colonial Empire" as continuing the motherland's civilization and
sciences for a long period of time after the destructions.
But he also praised India for having
advanced civilizations going back well before 25,000 years ago. It
was to the sacred schools in India, he wrote, students from Egypt and
other countries went to study. And it was from ancient India,
colonies were established that eventually became Babylonia and Sumer,
etc. But if Churchward was correct, the people of India, Burma and
much of the area originally arrived there in 3 waves from different
departure points on the nearby western side of MU. Of course
Indonesia of today was on that route. But these people weren't from
Atlantis. It was Thoth establishing the lower Egyptian kingdom at
Sais who came from Atlantis. Most of the other ancient colonists in
upper Egypt, India, Burma, etc. appear to have earlier come from MU.
Your friend seems to be unaware of the preceding - or chooses to
focus only on India and Indonesia as the original
"motherland." - Dick
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Dick, Churchward's credentials speak for themself.
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Churchward lived in India for 30 years, spoke and wrote several languages (including Tamil fluently), obviously loved the country and people. According to him, after the surfaces of MU in the Pacific (and subsequently Atlantis in the Atlantic) collapsed below the waves during the forging of gas belts, he described India's "Independent Colonial Empire" as continuing the motherland's civilization and sciences for a long period of time after the destructions.
It could be that Mu and Atlantis practised the same religion, which was a global culture at the time.
But he also praised India for having advanced civilizations going back well before 25,000 years ago. It was to the sacred schools in India, he wrote, students from Egypt and other countries went to study. And it was from ancient India, colonies were established that eventually became Babylonia and Sumer, etc. But if Churchward was correct, the people of India, Burma and much of the area originally arrived there in 3 waves from different departure points on the nearby western side of MU. Of course Indonesia of today was on that route. But these people weren't from Atlantis. It was Thoth establishing the lower Egyptian kingdom at Sais who came from Atlantis. Most of the other ancient colonists in upper Egypt, India, Burma, etc. appear to have earlier come from MU. Your friend seems to be unaware of the preceding - or chooses to focus only on India and Indonesia as the original "motherland
It is odd, and he's so dogmatic about it. But Arysio knows Egypt, he says;
In still other words, the * Book of Coming Forth (or Crossing) to Light* is the recipe for successfully crossing into Paradise, that is no other than Peru or Meru, another name of Punt or Indonesia. And the Egyptian temple is, again, just a replica of Atlantis as the site of Paradise, with its sacred pools, its thick forests, its pylons and divisions and, above all its Solar Boat that garantees the safe crossing into that difficult region, in the company of the gods, who grant the grace of such safety in crossing the perilous ocean that leads into the netherword, that of sunken Paradise (Atlantis).
These are all hollow earth references.
If Egypt adopted it’s belief in a netherworld paradise from Atlanteans, how can Atlantis be that paradise? Everything Arysio refers to is indicative of a lost paradise, beneath the land or sea in existence before Atlanis sank. I wouldn’t want my spirit to return to an obliterated ruin beneath the waves upon death ans why would a 'solar boat' be required to travel on Duat if it was just a sunken island? There are too many inconsistencies to mention but he has, I believe, found traces of Mu in the East.
Hazel
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Jan, Not only Dick, these photographs are incredible, if only Colonel
Churchward could see this. Graham Hancock was taken scuba diving in these
ruins and it, and other similar underwater structures are the subject of his
new book, due in November. These look man-made steps and the size of the
cyclopean stones are on a par with Baalbek as well as some Mesoamerican
sites.
What more proof is required to make them admit, advanced civilizations
flourished in antiquity? Hazel.
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Atlantis - The Lost
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Dick will like this:
http://www.conceptual.net.au/~jackc/mu.htm
JanJM....
Thanks. I do like it! Had already seen
the pics on other sites earlier (as all of you have too) But
this is the FIRST time I've ever read anybody referring to Churchward
and MU on the internet! Amazing. I could locate no home page or
name on the page. Any idea who prepared it?
BUT, the writer, though partially
informed, clearly has NOT studied Churchward's books (especially his
final two science oriented books "Cosmic Forces of MU" books one
and two).
MU's and Atlantis' destruction did not
come about ONLY from earthquakes. Earthquakes were just PART of what
Churchward described. The great (formerly "isolated") gas pocket
chambers holding up the surfaces of both countries, were
penetrated by forging, deep gas belt "tunnels," injecting new
volumes of volcanic gases, OVER-compressing the chambers.
Overcompressed, the chamber "roofs"
(and the surfaces above) violently shook, rose and fell repeatedly.
At weak points in the surface rocks, the gases forced upwards.
Volcanic cones rose and opened on several sides of the underlying
chambers, emptying their volumes of volatile gases into the
atmosphere. Mixing with oxygen, the gases erupted into flames as they
rose. Parts of both countries were shaken by earthquakes while
suffocated and engulfed with fire from the emptying gases.
As the last of the supporting gases
escaped from the chambers, the chamber "roofs" dropped, collapsed
to the "floors" of the emptied gas chambers, carrying with them
everything that was once on the surface. In a day and night (or was
it hours?), at separated times, both Atlantis and MU and most of
their people, were destroyed by earthquakes, fire and
water.
The other significant fault I find with
the writer's (otherwise fine analysis), is his accepting the opinions
of some Japanese researchers who think MU (if it is part of MU they
are examining) was drowned and submerged by the rising waters of the
oceans from glacial melt as the last ICE AGE ended. Neither the web
page writer nor the Japanese he reports seem aware of one of the
MAJOR contentions of Churchward; that there never was an ice age. It
is an absurd myth. If Churchward was correct, MU (and Atlantis) were
not submerged by glacial "melt." See the URL below....
This following old URL of an email I
sent to Jeff Rense last year is still "live" in Rense's website
archives: "The absurdity of the mythical ice age." If
interested, take a look....
http://www.sightings.com/general3/myth.htm
A "pole shift," not an ice
age. In it I related SOME of Churchward's "proofs" (but not
all. Can't include everything in a short Rense email) that the
supposed thousands of years in duration last ICE AGE (covering
much of the northern hemisphere with giant, thick, MOVING glaciers -
yet strangely ABSENT in Asia on the SAME parallels) was a myth. A
mythical ice age. That it was INSTEAD a readjusting
sudden LURCH of the north pole back toward mean (and the entire
globe's land surfaces with it), after being tipped toward the Sun
(pulled) beyond mean by the Sun's magnetic forces for an undetermined
period of time. The earth's SURFACE lurched away from the Sun, but
the "looser" ocean waters temporarily continued in the former
direction, earth's surface moving UNDER the waters in the new
direction. In actuality the ocean waters didn't pour OVER the land.
Earth's surface moved UNDER the oceans.
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But it was the SAME result for
everyone drowned by the great waves! The North Pacific waters
(WITHOUT ice) "spilled" northward over much of Eastern Asia (and
the Uighur Empire in the Gobi), joined the waters of the Arctic
ocean, picking up masses of loose rock and most of the ICE that had
collected around the North polar region for thousands of prior years.
The waves carrying rocks and ice then continued SOUTH down over
Canada (sweeping the topsoil to the bedrock), much of the upper and
middle United States (especially toward the east coast) and the
western parts of northern Europe. The south moving ice and rocks
carried in the waves ground to a pulp all vegetation, animals and
human beings in their path. **A CATACLYSMIC event of DAYS, not an
ice age glacier covering the earth for thousands of years. **
It was a readjusting LURCH that
Churchward contended happened MANY times before in early earth's
history. But such past "magnetic cataclysms" were of WATER
only, drowning existing populations, not grinding them to pulp. By
the time the last readjusting LURCH happened, earth's overall global
temperature had gradually cooled from the former tropical conditions.
The polar regions, once also warm and semi-tropical (as Donnelly and
many today now agree), soon became very cold, accumulating volumes of
ice and snow.
Following my email on the Rense site above
is a guy named Chris, who was really bothered by my Churchward's
claim the ice age was a myth. Worth reading. He posts some
(possibly) valid exceptions (also makes a few lame excuses)... and
carefully avoids attacking the MAJOR "proofs" offered by
Churchward (through me). Judge for yourselves. You may agree with
him.
Among the "evidence" I did not
include, was my own discovery in my treasured 1948 Britannica.
Writing about the ICE AGE, the Britannica science writer noted that
at one time in the past (?), some geologists thought the evidence
of ICE SCRATCHINGS on the stationery rocks could ALSO have been
made by a TIDAL WAVE of water carrying ice that came from the north
pole! But, he wrote, NO ONE could figure out how such a tidal wave
could happen, so they decided to accept the idea the scratchings
could have been made only by a MOVING GLACIER OF ICE! That
appears to be how the ICE AGE and Glacial Theory came to be widely
accepted by orthodox geologists. Amazing. Perhaps Churchward had not
yet published his books. Certainly they were not read subsequently by
ICE AGE theorists.
But aside from the preceding (important points, I
think) it was refreshing to read SOMEONE new at least mentioning
something about Churchward. Thanks again, JanJM .
- Dick