Fascinating Clip: The Hidden Realms of Our World
Short Clip • 3 Hour Full Podcast (Oct. 17, 2023)
On 17 October 2023, during an episode of Desvendando a Mente Humana, a Huni Kuin shaman (pajé) and his companion were presented with an iconic “grey alien” image—complete with an elongated head and large, dark eyes. Unfamiliar with the modern concept of extraterrestrials, they instantly identified the being as belonging to their own cosmological lexicon: Mankunawabu (alternatively rendered as Manku-na-wabu, Mancunawabu, or even Myoshibu/Myo-shi-bu). For the Huni Kuin, this term designates a race of underground “ant people”—powerful, ancient denizens of hidden realms beneath the earth.
(Due to the primarily oral nature of the Huni Kuin language, spellings such as Mankunawabu, Manku-na-wabu, Myoshibu, and Myo-shi-abu are provisional. These variations, much like the different names for subterranean beings in other cultures, reflect attempts to capture the nuanced sounds and meanings of an ancient language that remains largely undocumented. It would be great if we could find someone who has a more authoritative understanding of this language to chime in here.)
“Maibo Isso”? Or “Mankunawabu / Manku-na-wabu”
In the auto-transcript, the speaker’s first utterance was rendered as “maibo isso.” However, his companion promptly corrected him, clarifying the term as Mankunawabu. In Huni Kuin lore, these beings are intrinsically tied to the formidable una—a large, potent ant species. More than gentle custodians of nature, the ant people are territorial guardians of their subterranean realm. Their lore warns that when humans trespass into these sacred zones without proper ritual or respect, these beings may seize and drag the trespasser’s spirit below the surface. Only a skilled pajé (shaman) can retrieve a lost spirit, underscoring that these entities enforce strict boundaries between the surface and the underworld.
Remind anyone of "alien abductions" much?...
From Myo-shi-bu to Ant People: A Spectrum of Names and Meanings
Though the term “Myoshibu” appears in some renditions—often pronounced as “Myo-shi-abu”—the consensus among the Huni Kuin seems to be to use Mankunawabu. Both labels capture the essence of a subterranean race that defies conventional extraterrestrial narratives. Instead of beings from outer space, these are entities emerging from deep within the Earth itself—a perspective that resonates with theories of a hollow planet and inner-world civilizations. For the Huni Kuin, the “grey alien” is a misnomer imposed by modern ufology; in reality, it is the ant people, the ancient guardians of the cavern world / underworld—or Sheol—that remains largely unseen by modern science... for whatever reason (of course we have many speculations and previous discussions about this and it's likely due to the rebranding/return they plan to make perhaps very soon).
Subterranean Cosmology: Realms, Rights, and Retribution
In Huni Kuin tradition, the origin of these beings is linked to an ancient transformation—a process in which certain spirits “became ants,” merging physical form with spiritual essence to claim their place in hidden caverns. This myth seems less about a passive reverence for nature and more about a rigid respect for distinct realms. These beings appear to assert their dominion over the underground, and when human activity encroaches upon their territory, they are believed to retaliate—perhaps harvesting, punishing, or even obliterating unwelcome intruders. This dynamic mirrors ancient Biblical and mythological narratives where divine decrees established strict boundaries: for instance, in Genesis 3:14 the serpent is cursed to crawl on its belly, an image that some interpret as the relegation of a "once-noble" being to a lower or subterranean existence, while humans are granted dominion over the Earth’s surface layers (concave and convex).
Additional Insight:
Consider that these narratives not only emphasize the sacredness of the hidden realms but also hint at an underlying cosmic justice. This is not merely about respecting nature, but about acknowledging that every realm—whether the upper surface or the inner world—has its own sovereign rights and retributive powers.
Interweaving Global Mythologies: Fae, Elves, Dwarves, and Reptilians
This Amazonian account finds echoes in diverse traditions across time and cultures:
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Biblical and Reptilian Traditions:
Ancient texts hint at a cosmic order where reptilian or serpent-like entities were cast down or confined to the underworld. Such narratives suggest that these beings—much like the ant people—are the rightful sovereigns of the subterranean, their authority (or curse) granted by divine or cosmic mandates... or punishments. -
European Fae, Elves, and Dwarves:
In Celtic, Germanic, and Norse mythologies, the hidden folk (such as the Sidhe, dwarves, and elves) are often depicted as dwellers of hills, mounds, or deep caverns. Their interactions with humans are marked by both sometimes benevolence, but more often trickery, deception, retribution, and capture; trespassers may be abducted or punished, much like the Huni Kuin’s ant people who guard their domains with zeal. -
Mesoamerican Underworld Guardians:
Indigenous traditions from regions in Mexico describe cave-dwelling or insectoid entities that serve as intermediaries between the physical and spiritual worlds, reinforcing the idea that hidden realms are governed by their own set of inviolable rules. Perhaps language barriers are the real differences here compared to other stories. -
Hollow Planet and Cavern World Theories:
The notion that all planets, including Earth, are hollow adds another layer of intrigue. In this view, the underworld is not simply a metaphor but a vast, inner realm populated by ancient civilizations and beings who exercise sovereignty over their own domain—mirroring the Huni Kuin’s depiction of the Mankunawabu. How often on other worlds is there similar enmity between the cavern dwellers vs concave or even convex surface dwellers? -
Global Domain Conflicts:
Across these narratives, there is a recurring theme of disdain toward humans and human trespass. It is reminiscent of what we are seeing with "green" initiatives and narratives about climate change even. Whether it is Samael who became Satan as the cursed serpent in Biblical writ, the protective but vengeful dwarves of Norse myth, or the ant people of the Amazon, there is an implicit assertion that these beings seek to inflict harm, torment or destruction upon humanity whenever they may and actively defend their territories upon whosoever oversteps their boundaries.
Additional Insight:
It is worth emphasizing that many of these traditions suggest a deeper cosmic order in which the realms are not simply natural but are imbued with spiritual and even judicial authority. In this light, the intrusion of humans into the underworld or Sheol might be somewhat understood as akin to a legal or divine transgression—a breach that invites not mere punishment but a claim of retributive rights. An interesting thought for sure.
Why This Matters for a Unified Understanding
The Huni Kuin account of Mankunawabu/Myoshibu is more than an isolated anecdote. It is part of a broader tapestry of mythologies that challenge conventional views and invite us to consider the possibility of vast inner realms—where ancient beings, whether ant people, fae, or cursed reptilians/"dinosaurs," continue to exert their influence. These narratives compel us to rethink:
- The Nature of Dominion: Who truly governs the hidden/guarded/unseen parts of our planet? What are the true dynamics going on behind the facade of governments, laws and treaties?
- Cosmic Order and Retribution: What are the consequences when humanity violates set boundaries? Is this one of the purposes of some divine or governmental decrees and laws?
- Unified Mysteries: How might seemingly disparate accounts—from hollow planet theories to ancient fae lore—converge into a cohesive understanding of our world’s hidden layers?
The story of the Huni Kuin ant people serves as a crucial reminder: the mysteries of our planet are not solely the domain of scientific fact or mainstream ufology, but also of ancient, non-normal accounts that insist and compel us to take note of the reality of guarded and even secret realms and the beings that inhabit them.