An error put to rest...

Greetings:

Although the article shown below (IMPLOSION - The Hidden Pole of Technology
http://hardevidence.com/bbs/messages/302.html ) shows that the author has a
good grasp on the subject of IMPLOSION, he seems to have copied the
following statement, originally made by Baumgartner, without adequate
analysis...

"...[this centripetal motion] has an ordering, a concentrating, a cooling
effect, while centrifugal or radiative motion has an entropic, dispersing,
heating effect..."

With respect to 'cooling' and 'heating' I deem this statement inaccurate and
misleading for the following reasons:

A generoactive (in contrast to 'radioactive'), sex-conditioned, centripetal
life-giving vortex of primordial energy enters each pole, as fed by the
sun's radiative energy. These vortices are unseen, unsensed and
unmeasurable - thus unsuspected. This phenomenon is the 'Night Side of Life'
or 'Night Side of Nature' so eloquently described in the book 'A Dweller on
Two Planets' and also by Edgar Cayce, time and time again. I have also seen
it labeled as such in other literature over the years.
While this energy is indeed ordering, concentrating and compressing towards
the earth's center, the effect is not cooling - it is HEATING - all
compression heats because wave pressures increase and compression pressure
lenses thicken! At the equator this polarized energy 'mirrors' itself at 90
degrees to the incoming twin unseen energy and this new resulting effect
produces a radiating, centrifugal and dispersing motion or action - finally
visible as the famous spiral arms in nebulae or hurricanes and tornadoes -
and this effect is now COOLING. The former is life-giving and generating
while the latter is decaying and degenerating but becoming life-giving for
other systems. Life and death thus turn inside out. The inbreath becomes the
spent outbreath and thus one becomes the other in never-ending cycles.

You also said: "This entire debate in a nutshell stems from the fact that,
since all bodies that have the trait of centrifugal force, something must be
there to balance this force." ...and you profess not to know what that force
is. It might not be apparent, but I have described this balancing force
above, albeit very sketchy!

I hope that my verbology has been clear enough and that this error of
definition has been put to rest because I noticed this erroneous statement
many years ago, made by Baumgartner in his hard-copy newsletters, and it
seems to have now become 'gospel' in the circle of devotees to such 'Future
Science' concepts.

Sincerely,

Juergen Buche
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"Vision without Action is merely a dream.
Action without Vision is passing the time.
Vision with Action can change the world!"
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...IMPLOSION - The Hidden Pole of Technology
http://hardevidence.com/bbs/messages/302.html

Following is an out of context, interesting excerpt... (see type I've
bold faced):

"Unfortunately, our present technology and semi-complete knowledge of
physics is based almost exclusively on the second half of the cycle,
the cycle of radiation, death and decay. We see this in the
prevalence of explosion type motors, the extensive use of radiative
technology and an almost complete absence of centripetal forms of
motion. This is severely limiting an understanding of our
civilization's technical possibilities as centripetal or vortex
motion results in a violation of the second law of thermodynamics. It
has an ordering, a concentrating, a cooling effect, while centrifugal
or radiative motion has an entropic, dispersing, heating effect. With
technology unbalanced on one side of the natural cycle, it is no
wonder that the use of our machinery has a destructive effect on the
environment and on us. Everywhere there is death, pollution,
degradation & poison and mostly from the anti-life types of
technologies in use. This lop-sided use of technology is distinctive
of Earth's current surface civilization and differs to both
inner-earth technology, that of the Galactic Federation and even
earlier Earth technologies, as with Atlantis, Rama and Lemuria."

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Related thread: IMPL:OSION URL from Rebecka — Corrects the implosion article posted in this topic

Juergen (from Dick Fojut)... Thanks for your comment below about the error in the IMPLOSION article. I'm the one who re-posted the URL after Rebecka listed it. I had some disagreements and agreements with the author (and others who were part of his sources). But I found the overall presentation very unique and thought provoking, about basic matter possibly consisting of vortexes. And especially the idea that radiated "particles" from a distant sun may not be "traveling" in actuality (exhausting the output of the body no matter its generative power).

Instead, as I understood the author, "waves" are created in the "aether" substance postulated to be permeating all space, and ripple from there to us here. The author didn't further explain, but I can imagine such "waves" in the universal substance (itself probably of similar, though ultra "thin" composition) might be imbued or "stamped" with an exact duplicate of the "character" of the initial particles radiated at the source. Not precisely the right analogy, but perhaps like a current of similar identity "stamped" on electrical waves flowing through wires.

Now, if you have the inclination, please give us YOUR expert analysis of "COMMON SENSE SCIENCE, Spinning Ring Model of the Atom," a URL thoughtfully posted earlier by List member Leslee...

I found those several papers carried on the website that I read, also thought provoking. And particularly hoped Dean and Scott would scan through the material and see what may agree or disagree with their personal views in their continuing, fascinating "discussion" about Gravity.

I also read "Dweller on Two Planets" many years back. Did you read the "sequel," "Earth Dwellers Return?" Purportedly it was supposed to be further dictation from Phylos. Years after reading it, I heard (though it may not be true) that a guy living here in Tucson who ran a metaphysical "university" (whose name escapes me) was the author. Whatever the truth, the writer produced a brilliantly imagined cosmology for the creation of this physical universe, beginning with the "BOLT." If you read it, you already know the details. It far exceeded the simpler concepts written by Oliver in the first book, in my opinion.
- Dick
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