Maybe to add a little dimension to the questions, why is there a true north
and a magnetic north, and why are they different? Why does the magnetic
north pole change its location on a rather consistant basis? And where did
Dean go? Did he take us up on the excursion to the interior idea? And then,
when all these things are considered, what explains why they are the way ther
are.
Norlan
Maybe to add a little dimension to the questions, why is there a true
north
and a magnetic north, and why are they different? Why does the magnetic
north pole change its location on a rather consistant basis?
Norlan,
There magnetic lines of force seem to line the inner rim of the
doughnut-shaped opening, just that at one point, the magnetic force becomes
more intense and, from far away, attracts as if it were " the " magnetic
point. Right now it is at Queen Elizabeth Island.
But what confuses me a bit is whether the Geo North Pole is over the orifice
or along the neck of the it. Needless to say, we couldn't depend on a
compass to indicate this because the magnetic lines of force are running in
or out of the inside of the orifice.
And as far as celestial navigation is concerned, you couldn't trust the
starsz over your head because you would be at an inward angle, so the
Northern point would seem to be over your head, but it would just be your
angle distorting things. I guess we can't know exactly where the geo North
pole is.
where did Dean go? Did he take us up on the excursion to the interior
idea?
No, I hit the museums today, but got back much earlier than I thought.
Later,
Dharma/Dean
And then,
when all these things are considered, what explains why they are the way
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And as far as celestial navigation is concerned, you couldn't trust the
starsz over your head because you would be at an inward angle, so the
Northern point would seem to be over your head, but it would just be your
angle distorting things. I guess we can't know exactly where the geo North
pole is.
Dean,
Have you thought about how GPS will behave when you get close to the opening?
Frode
Dean,
Have you thought about how GPS will behave when you get close to the
opening?
Frode
Frode,
Well, I imagine that it would give the correct longitude, as that would not
be affected by curvature. I imagine.
But latitude would be affected as sonn as the slope began. A certain
curvature would be programed into the calculations.
Dean
Here is something which I am re-posting from Jan Lamprecht.
Posted by Dharma/Dean
Hi Everyone,
Just a note. I've been pondering the problem of polyanas, fault-
lines, Green-house effect, etc.
While in the middle of this, I happened to converse with a fellow
whose done a lot of Arctic travelling - been up to Alaska, Canada
and even the North Pole several times. He concurred with what the
Australian scientist said, and added observations of his own.
However, he launched a tirade of attacks against Lt Cmdr Green,
US Navy, who said he saw Crocker Land. (Green, as you will
remember, murdered the eskimo, and nobody knows why. The
Government of Denmark apparently went ballistic over the incident
demanding to know why). The excuse given by MacMillan and
Green is pretty lame - so I feel there's more to it than meets the
eye. I think Green shot the eskimo for a good reason. I think the
Eskimo saw "something" and went crazy. I think Green shot him
before he spread panic to the other eskimos in the Crocker Land
expedition. But what did the eskimo see? (A UFO maybe?)
And this brings me to a curious fact which seems to defy
coincidence. Green wrote articles for Popular Science, about
Crocker Land and mentioned that he'd seen it. Green was with
Capt. MacMillan at the time (1914). I have MacMillan's book (1918)
which has a beautiful description of the hills and valleys of Crocker
Land.
Now, here's the kicker. According to this guy I was chatting to,
whose extremely knowledgeable about the Arctic, he has Green's
Diary, and for the day(s) in question, there ARE NO ENTRIES for
anything to do with Crocker Land.
Strange? But not as strange as this: I know for a fact, that on the
DAY(S) when Peary said he saw Crocker Land - you will also NOT
FIND ANY ENTRIES IN HIS DIARY EITHER. All Polar scholars
have vouched for this.
So all these Polar Scholars say: Peary is a liar, Green is a liar
(just as they've been saying Cook is a liar).
But wait! I have seen newspaper articles - Dr Gohnert and I were in
the basement of one of Wits University's libraries and we saw a
detailed article from the early 1900's where Peary spoke at length
about the REALITY of Crocker Land.
I have Capt MacMillan's 1918 book with a very detailed description
of the amazing Crocker Land.
Is MacMillan ALSO a liar?
What of Cook? Cook took photographs of the outlying hills of
Bradley land - and his photos were sitting in the Library of
Congress in the USA - and then, THEY DISAPPEARED.... Who
took them?
Well, let me tell you something else. The Peary Club's records
were CLOSED for 75 years. They were only reopened just over a
decade ago.
So I'm sitting back and thinking how these Arctic explorers have
ALL been made out to be LIARS, and how strange things
happened to Cook, and to Cook's photographs, and to Peary's
testimony, and to Green's testimony, and so forth.
You know what? I think the same people who STOLE Cook's
photographs from the Library of Congress, may be the same
people who possibly TAMPERED WITH PEARY'S DIARY and
GREEN'S DIARY. Both of them were Naval Officers remember.
I'm starting to wonder what happened to those diaries and the
Peary records during the years they were closed. How do you
know that someone has not gone back and rewritten a bit of Arctic
history so to speak?
I have made the case that Dr Cook was framed, and it was
apparent to me that a smear campaign was aimed at Peary, but
now, Green also must be sucked into it. Now if everyone is to be
made out to be a liar, then it follows that before long, MacMillan
(who BTW, later became an ADMIRAL - just like Peary), must also
then be smeared. Eventually, in order to keep the whole Crocker
Land thing a secret, EVERYONE relating to it must be smeared.
Funny. The greatest Arctic explorers in history all have to be made
out to be COMPLETE LIARS, or else, people will realise that they
all saw something which I say, must remain, to this day, as
CLASSIFIED - and that is: Crocker & Bradley Lands...
One further area of study worth keeping an eye on, is polyanas, the
large-scale melting of ice in the polar sea. This may well be related
to the existence of Crocker & Bradley Lands, AND even to the
FAULT LINE - which Green said existed there. (BTW, Green was
the PHYSICIST on the Crocker Land expedition and had a
MASTER'S DEGREE IN SCIENCE - he was no idiot). Already, in
the past few days, as I perused a National Geographic from the
1990's, I saw that one polyana was seen, in the region which
interests me.
There must be OTHER weather effects which are not being
reported as well, which all relate to this island, volcanic activity and
the fault line. (e.g. like Peary's 1892 observation of volcanic ash
falling in Greenland. Too bad we don't know the prevailing winds at
the time).
In this regard, not enough is being said about the high sulphur
content of the air north of Alaska - sulphur comes from volcanic
activity... and there is lots of it in the air up there. Now that would
be something fantastic if one could measure sulphur content in the
air. That could lead you DIRECTLY to the island...
It seems as if viewing conditions in this region are very poor
because of all these natural phenomena which may be obscuring
the existence of this island.
If any of you see any articles of interest, *PLEASE* forward it to
me. I want to keep my ears to the ground.
But the thing which really hit me like a sledge-hammer today, was
the possibility, that the DIARIES, of TOP NOTCH Arctic explorers
MUST have been tampered with - I would assume by CIA/NSA
types. This must be the case. For example, how else can we
explain the disappearance of KEY PHOTOGRAPHS from the Cook
Collection in the Library of Congress? Oh please!? Surely, only
Govt Officials could walk in and remove it with blessings from on
high as part of NATIONAL SECURITY. Why was this theft never
reported? Why didn't it make media headlines? Surely, with the
technology of this last century, going to a diary and maybe
replacing ONE PAGE, can be done? If they can put men on the
moon then I'll bet they have the technology to fake a couple of
pages in a diary.
In this regard, and I need to check some more, do you know, that
some of these very important diaries, like that of Peary CONTAIN
SEVERAL BLANK PAGES AT KEY POINTS IN TIME??
Do you know, that Peary's diary, WHILE HE WAS AT THE NORTH
POLE, CONTAINS MOSTLY BLANK PAGES!!!!?? Think about it.
The man has reached his life-time's goal, he sits there for more
than a day and - HE WRITES NOTHING....
OR: Were these diaries tampered with and "blanked out/censored"
by the CIA/NSA to remove evidence which would suggest that
Crocker and Bradley Lands (and maybe other people) existed up
there? How much else has then been removed from Arctic diaries?
I am very curious now. Even a review of BLANK PAGES, could
itself become a most interesting pass-time, since one would know
WHERE they were at the time they "stopped writing" (were
censored), and that alone, could be KEY in indentifying areas
worth visiting and investigating.
Folks, I don't think anyone has ever advanced the theory before
that Polar Diaries have been tampered with by Government Agents
but as I ponder this, I'm saying to you, this MUST be the case.
And of course, if that is so, then I want to try to lay my hands on
the diaries of these people.
There is something very very strange, going on there...
Its on days like this that I get sick and tired of listening to 2nd-hand
and 3rd-hand accounts of the Arctic sea north of Alaska. Man, if I
had the money I'd be there in a FLASH. I'm telling you, there's
more than enough evidence here to justify mounting a good
expedition and do some serious flying covering several thousand
miles of the Arctic. With the kinds of planes around these days I
say that within a few weeks a person could solve these damned
mysteries for once and for all. I say there's something out there,
exactly where I mapped it in my book. EXACTLY THERE... and it
must be bloody AWESOME...