[allplanets-hollow] Sitchin's Theory

He is planning to be at a conference in Sedona I think in October?
Check the latest issue of Atlantis Rising for info. I also have read
his books, have the same reservations as you. My good friend just flat
out says he has zero documentation to support his schtick. Personally
I think he is on an ego trip because he frequently talks of his 'fans'
etc. and his personal stats reflect somewhat of a questionable
adjenda? You can read into what you want into that. In addition,
in all of the radio interviews I reviewed, he will not answer any
hard questions at all. And the way Art Bell kisses his ass, well so goes
Art lips.
ps/lv

···

From: Scott A Macklin <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Sitchin's Theory
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:34:28 -0500

Hello All,

        I have about four or five of the book series that Sitchin has
written about the
Annunnaki, Nibiru and its 3600 year eccentric orbit or Mars or the Sun.
The idea
that such an elliptical orbit is natural and that it orbits a planetary
body other than
the Sun, I find a bit ridiculous. Neither Mars or Jupiter would not be
in the same
exact position for all 3600 year orbits where Nibiru has come into
closest solar
proximity. It would not be possible for the laws of physics and orbital
dynamics
for a planet so many times larger than Mars and even Earth to have a
smaller planet
and or one that moved be the foci in the eccentric orbit attributed to
Nibiru. I think
that they must have copied that idea wrong form the ancient texts of
which they
obtained these ideas. The Sun would surely be the body orbited.

        Now I have been intrigued by Sitchin's theories, but intrigue is
not a foundation
of proof. It was pointed out within recent list e-mail traffic that they
have actually
sighted a planet that is nearing Earth and if this is true, the fanciful
thoughts he puts
forth in his books may become partially substantiated, but certainly I
would question
everything the Sitchin series books say.

        The story is one of gods ( little g ) and how the ancient Earth
history may have
been effected by these Annunaki as he calls them. They have ancient
texts, legends,
myths and even steles and tablet drawings which all appear to
authenticate the gist
of this idea. I call to task some of the legitimacy of what this tall
tale implies. One
will read in these books that one reason for the presence of the Annunaki
on Earth
was to obtain gold. This rare element was apparently something that they
were in
great need of and that not requiring it would in some way imperil their
life on the
planet Nibiru. I find great amusement in this whole idea of such a
planet and such
a civilization living out far in space. On one side of the coin, it
appears to be an
excellent indicator that hollow planets are not simply an Earth feature
but that they
are dominant in all heavenly bodies of sufficient size. How could there
be any sort
of life out deep in the depths of space so far removed from what we have
been
taught from cradle to grave is uniquely something the Earth alone has?
Earth among
all the systems planets has the nearly ideal environment and atmosphere
to maintain
life in our form. If these so called "gods" or demigods are like us in
body type and
atmospheric requirements, then they must certainly need something more
than a
planet with gold shielding to prevent heat and atmosphere from leaking
from it.
Nibiru, should it be real, might have polar openings and within it, a
near dead on
match to conditions we speculate about within the Earth. This planet
would mirror
most likely the traits spoken about for the Earth where the denser
materials are deeper
within the planet and where the part of the shell closer to the inner
surface would be
denser. We read in the Smoky God that gold is extremely plentiful there
compared
to the Earth's surface. It would be a great place to obtain more of this
precious metal
which has been the standard of wealth and true value for thousands of
years and we
could insist that we return to a gold standard so that the inflationary
cycle could be all
but eliminated. I digress from my topic but it seems ridiculous to me
why the American
people and for that matter everyone else has not grasped the idea yet
that without a
gold standard, inflation abounds! You don't notice it from day to day
but over time
the same work performed to gain a dollar decrease and this decreases the
buying power
of the money you have. You appear to be gaining but in truth statistics
clearly show that
you have less buying power now than the amount of money you had 20 years
ago.
Chasing after more and more money is not the way to get ahead. We have
ended up
with a situation where one invests money for interest and that only is
for the sake of
keeping up with the inflation rate. Work should be sacred. An older
person 40 years
ago earned a fraction of what they do today but the original buying power
of the money
one might have saved 40 years ago has dwindled a lot. We should pigeon
hole the
Congress and get them to reinstate some sort of non inflatable monetary
standard where
the inflationary cycle could be brought to an end. Only a specific type
of inflation
could then exist and that would be for materials and services that have
become rare
because they simply have come into short supply. In such cases, demand
would
overwhelm supply and a price hike would be inevitable.

        I sorry, back to the main subject. Knowing that we are likely
to find more gold
in the interior of the planet than on the exterior, which the Annunaki
must have been
aware of through the study of their own planet, it makes sense to go
first to the best
and most economical source of gold. Here that is in the inner realm of
the planet.
Then we are told in the Sitchin books that there were complaints being
made by some
of the Annunaki colonists working the mines that conditions were too hard
for them
and they tired of the effort. A scheme of tinkering with the local life
forms, primitive
man in particular, was pursued to educate and supply a slave labor force
to relieve the
tired Annunaki. Give me a break! Surely a people advanced well beyond
our present
state of space flight would have discovered the reliability of
computerized automation
and mining machines to do this sort of work. Furthermore and more
significant yet, is
the idea that they could have gone directly into the inner realm and
mined for gold with
comparative ease compared with the mining done on the outside. One is
then left with
finding out why they did or could not do this to legitimize this whole
story. Was it
known to them that there was a similar type of culture inside the Earth
relatively
equivalent to their own? Was there a taboo with trying to obtain the
precious ore in
a trade agreement with them, our own hyperboreans for want of a more
accurate
label? Was it because the effort and logistics of waging a war with the
inner peoples
was too high or unpractical in being resupplied once every 3600 years?
For that matter,
had the Annunaki mined out or made attempt to acquire more gold from all
the other
planets of this solar system? If you ask me the whole idea has a
foundation of sand
and cannot be trusted in the light of our current perception. Perhaps
the Annunaki just
saw the opportunity to play "God" with the less advanced surface
inhabitants and thought
they could procure enough gold in less efficient mining there.

        The Nibiru idea plays highly into the HE theory since any culture
so far removed
from the Sun would have to have such an arrangement to even survive as
humanoid life
forms. Sitchin writes at great length how these "gods" warred with each
other and brought
humans here into the fray and so on and so forth. Frankly, after a while
of entertaining reading,
I got tired of reading how we are just a product of extraterrestrial
experimentation. They
tramp upon every Biblical passage as being misinterpreted, wrong or
something else entirely.
Then all of a sudden out of nowhere, Sitchin writes a book about another
God which was
not connected with the pantheon of Nibiruan gods. He brings forth other
evidences that the
God of the Bible is the real God and that there is a supreme creator. Is
he trying to patch
up an image that has become tarnished by all this demigod talk? Does he
find now that he
all of a sudden believes in the God of the Bible after all, or has he
just discovered faith in
such a Being?
        I still regard his story with some interest even though I find
much of it suspect. If this
planet really exists, perhaps we have looked through a glass darkly in
reading the Sitchin
rendition of things and that there is a truth unveiled by the book that
is incomplete and
partially correct.
        I would be interested in knowing of any web sites that speak more
on the subject of
sighting this planet and just how close it is to us. If anyone out there
can give me some
leads on this I would be curious to check them out.

Scott

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Paul wrote about Sitcin:
He is planning to be at a conference in Sedona I think in October?
Check the latest issue of Atlantis Rising for info. I also have read
his books, have the same reservations as you. My good friend just flat
out says he has zero documentation to support his schtick. Personally
I think he is on an ego trip because he frequently talks of his 'fans'
etc. and his personal stats reflect somewhat of a questionable
adjenda? You can read into what you want into that. In addition,
in all of the radio interviews I reviewed, he will not answer any
hard questions at all. And the way Art Bell kisses his ass, well so goes
Art lips.
ps/lv

Paul (from Dick Fojut)... Right on! Well stated!
- Dick

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From: Scott A Macklin <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Sitchin's Theory
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:34:28 -0500

Hello All,

         I have about four or five of the book series that Sitchin has
written about the
Annunnaki, Nibiru and its 3600 year eccentric orbit or Mars or the Sun.
The idea
that such an elliptical orbit is natural and that it orbits a planetary
body other than
the Sun, I find a bit ridiculous. Neither Mars or Jupiter would not be
in the same
exact position for all 3600 year orbits where Nibiru has come into
closest solar
proximity. It would not be possible for the laws of physics and orbital
dynamics
for a planet so many times larger than Mars and even Earth to have a
smaller planet
and or one that moved be the foci in the eccentric orbit attributed to
Nibiru. I think
that they must have copied that idea wrong form the ancient texts of
which they
obtained these ideas. The Sun would surely be the body orbited.

         Now I have been intrigued by Sitchin's theories, but intrigue is
not a foundation
of proof. It was pointed out within recent list e-mail traffic that they
have actually
sighted a planet that is nearing Earth and if this is true, the fanciful
thoughts he puts
forth in his books may become partially substantiated, but certainly I
would question
everything the Sitchin series books say.

         The story is one of gods ( little g ) and how the ancient Earth
history may have
been effected by these Annunaki as he calls them. They have ancient
texts, legends,
myths and even steles and tablet drawings which all appear to
authenticate the gist
of this idea. I call to task some of the legitimacy of what this tall
tale implies. One
will read in these books that one reason for the presence of the Annunaki
on Earth
was to obtain gold. This rare element was apparently something that they
were in
great need of and that not requiring it would in some way imperil their
life on the
planet Nibiru. I find great amusement in this whole idea of such a
planet and such
a civilization living out far in space. On one side of the coin, it
appears to be an
excellent indicator that hollow planets are not simply an Earth feature
but that they
are dominant in all heavenly bodies of sufficient size. How could there
be any sort
of life out deep in the depths of space so far removed from what we have
been
taught from cradle to grave is uniquely something the Earth alone has?
Earth among
all the systems planets has the nearly ideal environment and atmosphere

>to maintain

life in our form. If these so called "gods" or demigods are like us in
body type and
atmospheric requirements, then they must certainly need something more
than a
planet with gold shielding to prevent heat and atmosphere from leaking
from it.
Nibiru, should it be real, might have polar openings and within it, a
near dead on
match to conditions we speculate about within the Earth. This planet
would mirror
most likely the traits spoken about for the Earth where the denser

>materials are deeper

within the planet and where the part of the shell closer to the inner
surface would be
denser. We read in the Smoky God that gold is extremely plentiful there
compared
to the Earth's surface. It would be a great place to obtain more of this
precious metal
which has been the standard of wealth and true value for thousands of
years and we
could insist that we return to a gold standard so that the inflationary
cycle could be all
but eliminated. I digress from my topic but it seems ridiculous to me
why the American
people and for that matter everyone else has not grasped the idea yet
that without a
gold standard, inflation abounds! You don't notice it from day to day
but over time
the same work performed to gain a dollar decrease and this decreases the
buying power
of the money you have. You appear to be gaining but in truth statistics
clearly show that
you have less buying power now than the amount of money you had 20 years
ago.
Chasing after more and more money is not the way to get ahead. We have
ended up
with a situation where one invests money for interest and that only is
for the sake of
keeping up with the inflation rate. Work should be sacred. An older
person 40 years
ago earned a fraction of what they do today but the original buying power
of the money
one might have saved 40 years ago has dwindled a lot. We should pigeon
hole the
Congress and get them to reinstate some sort of non inflatable monetary
standard where
the inflationary cycle could be brought to an end. Only a specific type
of inflation
could then exist and that would be for materials and services that have
become rare
because they simply have come into short supply. In such cases, demand
would
overwhelm supply and a price hike would be inevitable.

         I sorry, back to the main subject. Knowing that we are likely
to find more gold
in the interior of the planet than on the exterior, which the Annunaki
must have been
aware of through the study of their own planet, it makes sense to go
first to the best
and most economical source of gold. Here that is in the inner realm of
the planet.
Then we are told in the Sitchin books that there were complaints being
made by some
of the Annunaki colonists working the mines that conditions were too hard
for them
and they tired of the effort. A scheme of tinkering with the local life
forms, primitive
man in particular, was pursued to educate and supply a slave labor force
to relieve the
tired Annunaki. Give me a break! Surely a people advanced well beyond
our present
state of space flight would have discovered the reliability of
computerized automation
and mining machines to do this sort of work. Furthermore and more
significant yet, is
the idea that they could have gone directly into the inner realm and
mined for gold with
comparative ease compared with the mining done on the outside. One is
then left with
finding out why they did or could not do this to legitimize this whole
story. Was it
known to them that there was a similar type of culture inside the Earth
relatively
equivalent to their own? Was there a taboo with trying to obtain the
precious ore in
a trade agreement with them, our own hyperboreans for want of a more
accurate
label? Was it because the effort and logistics of waging a war with the
inner peoples
was too high or unpractical in being resupplied once every 3600 years?
For that matter,
had the Annunaki mined out or made attempt to acquire more gold from all
the other
planets of this solar system? If you ask me the whole idea has a

>foundation of sand

and cannot be trusted in the light of our current perception. Perhaps
the Annunaki just
saw the opportunity to play "God" with the less advanced surface
inhabitants and thought
they could procure enough gold in less efficient mining there.

         The Nibiru idea plays highly into the HE theory since any culture
so far removed
from the Sun would have to have such an arrangement to even survive as
humanoid life
forms. Sitchin writes at great length how these "gods" warred with each

>other and brought

humans here into the fray and so on and so forth. Frankly, after a while
of entertaining reading,
I got tired of reading how we are just a product of extraterrestrial
experimentation. They
tramp upon every Biblical passage as being misinterpreted, wrong or
something else entirely.
Then all of a sudden out of nowhere, Sitchin writes a book about another
God which was
not connected with the pantheon of Nibiruan gods. He brings forth other
evidences that the
God of the Bible is the real God and that there is a supreme creator. Is
he trying to patch
up an image that has become tarnished by all this demigod talk? Does he
find now that he
all of a sudden believes in the God of the Bible after all, or has he
just discovered faith in
such a Being?
         I still regard his story with some interest even though I find
much of it suspect. If this
planet really exists, perhaps we have looked through a glass darkly in
reading the Sitchin
rendition of things and that there is a truth unveiled by the book that
is incomplete and
partially correct.
         I would be interested in knowing of any web sites that speak more
on the subject of
sighting this planet and just how close it is to us. If anyone out there
can give me some
leads on this I would be curious to check them out.

Scott

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Paul, I can't decide if he's trying to dupe people and make money at the
same time or he genuinely believes his own theory. But I find the whole idea
that aliens would require to wait 3,600 to return, quite absurd. The
Ascended Master told Admiral Byrd that THEY assist us after periodic
catastrophes, which is how I perceive it. They preserve all knowledge,
science, art, music, medicine and religion in the inner-world and when we
lose it on the surface, they reintroduce civilization. Hazel.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Sproviero" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Sitchin's Theory

He is planning to be at a conference in Sedona I think in October?
Check the latest issue of Atlantis Rising for info. I also have read
his books, have the same reservations as you. My good friend just flat
out says he has zero documentation to support his schtick. Personally
I think he is on an ego trip because he frequently talks of his 'fans'
etc. and his personal stats reflect somewhat of a questionable
adjenda? You can read into what you want into that. In addition,
in all of the radio interviews I reviewed, he will not answer any
hard questions at all. And the way Art Bell kisses his ass, well so goes
Art lips.
ps/lv

>From: Scott A Macklin <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>CC: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Sitchin's Theory
>Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 15:34:28 -0500
>
>Hello All,
>
> I have about four or five of the book series that Sitchin has
>written about the
>Annunnaki, Nibiru and its 3600 year eccentric orbit or Mars or the Sun.
>The idea
>that such an elliptical orbit is natural and that it orbits a planetary
>body other than
>the Sun, I find a bit ridiculous. Neither Mars or Jupiter would not be
>in the same
>exact position for all 3600 year orbits where Nibiru has come into
>closest solar
>proximity. It would not be possible for the laws of physics and orbital
>dynamics
>for a planet so many times larger than Mars and even Earth to have a
>smaller planet
>and or one that moved be the foci in the eccentric orbit attributed to
>Nibiru. I think
>that they must have copied that idea wrong form the ancient texts of
>which they
>obtained these ideas. The Sun would surely be the body orbited.
>
> Now I have been intrigued by Sitchin's theories, but intrigue

is

>not a foundation
>of proof. It was pointed out within recent list e-mail traffic that they
>have actually
>sighted a planet that is nearing Earth and if this is true, the fanciful
>thoughts he puts
>forth in his books may become partially substantiated, but certainly I
>would question
>everything the Sitchin series books say.
>
> The story is one of gods ( little g ) and how the ancient Earth
>history may have
>been effected by these Annunaki as he calls them. They have ancient
>texts, legends,
>myths and even steles and tablet drawings which all appear to
>authenticate the gist
>of this idea. I call to task some of the legitimacy of what this tall
>tale implies. One
>will read in these books that one reason for the presence of the Annunaki
>on Earth
>was to obtain gold. This rare element was apparently something that they
>were in
>great need of and that not requiring it would in some way imperil their
>life on the
>planet Nibiru. I find great amusement in this whole idea of such a
>planet and such
>a civilization living out far in space. On one side of the coin, it
>appears to be an
>excellent indicator that hollow planets are not simply an Earth feature
>but that they
>are dominant in all heavenly bodies of sufficient size. How could there
>be any sort
>of life out deep in the depths of space so far removed from what we have
>been
>taught from cradle to grave is uniquely something the Earth alone has?
>Earth among
>all the systems planets has the nearly ideal environment and atmosphere
>to maintain
>life in our form. If these so called "gods" or demigods are like us in
>body type and
>atmospheric requirements, then they must certainly need something more
>than a
>planet with gold shielding to prevent heat and atmosphere from leaking
>from it.
>Nibiru, should it be real, might have polar openings and within it, a
>near dead on
>match to conditions we speculate about within the Earth. This planet
>would mirror
>most likely the traits spoken about for the Earth where the denser
>materials are deeper
>within the planet and where the part of the shell closer to the inner
>surface would be
>denser. We read in the Smoky God that gold is extremely plentiful there
>compared
>to the Earth's surface. It would be a great place to obtain more of this
>precious metal
>which has been the standard of wealth and true value for thousands of
>years and we
>could insist that we return to a gold standard so that the inflationary
>cycle could be all
>but eliminated. I digress from my topic but it seems ridiculous to me
>why the American
>people and for that matter everyone else has not grasped the idea yet
>that without a
>gold standard, inflation abounds! You don't notice it from day to day
>but over time
>the same work performed to gain a dollar decrease and this decreases the
>buying power
>of the money you have. You appear to be gaining but in truth statistics
>clearly show that
>you have less buying power now than the amount of money you had 20 years
>ago.
>Chasing after more and more money is not the way to get ahead. We have
>ended up
>with a situation where one invests money for interest and that only is
>for the sake of
>keeping up with the inflation rate. Work should be sacred. An older
>person 40 years
>ago earned a fraction of what they do today but the original buying power
>of the money
>one might have saved 40 years ago has dwindled a lot. We should pigeon
>hole the
>Congress and get them to reinstate some sort of non inflatable monetary
>standard where
>the inflationary cycle could be brought to an end. Only a specific type
>of inflation
>could then exist and that would be for materials and services that have
>become rare
>because they simply have come into short supply. In such cases, demand
>would
>overwhelm supply and a price hike would be inevitable.
>
> I sorry, back to the main subject. Knowing that we are likely
>to find more gold
>in the interior of the planet than on the exterior, which the Annunaki
>must have been
>aware of through the study of their own planet, it makes sense to go
>first to the best
>and most economical source of gold. Here that is in the inner realm of
>the planet.
>Then we are told in the Sitchin books that there were complaints being
>made by some
>of the Annunaki colonists working the mines that conditions were too hard
>for them
>and they tired of the effort. A scheme of tinkering with the local life
>forms, primitive
>man in particular, was pursued to educate and supply a slave labor force
>to relieve the
>tired Annunaki. Give me a break! Surely a people advanced well beyond
>our present
>state of space flight would have discovered the reliability of
>computerized automation
>and mining machines to do this sort of work. Furthermore and more
>significant yet, is
>the idea that they could have gone directly into the inner realm and
>mined for gold with
>comparative ease compared with the mining done on the outside. One is
>then left with
>finding out why they did or could not do this to legitimize this whole
>story. Was it
>known to them that there was a similar type of culture inside the Earth
>relatively
>equivalent to their own? Was there a taboo with trying to obtain the
>precious ore in
>a trade agreement with them, our own hyperboreans for want of a more
>accurate
>label? Was it because the effort and logistics of waging a war with the
>inner peoples
>was too high or unpractical in being resupplied once every 3600 years?
>For that matter,
>had the Annunaki mined out or made attempt to acquire more gold from all
>the other
>planets of this solar system? If you ask me the whole idea has a
>foundation of sand
>and cannot be trusted in the light of our current perception. Perhaps
>the Annunaki just
>saw the opportunity to play "God" with the less advanced surface
>inhabitants and thought
>they could procure enough gold in less efficient mining there.
>
> The Nibiru idea plays highly into the HE theory since any

culture

>so far removed
>from the Sun would have to have such an arrangement to even survive as
>humanoid life
>forms. Sitchin writes at great length how these "gods" warred with each
>other and brought
>humans here into the fray and so on and so forth. Frankly, after a while
>of entertaining reading,
>I got tired of reading how we are just a product of extraterrestrial
>experimentation. They
>tramp upon every Biblical passage as being misinterpreted, wrong or
>something else entirely.
>Then all of a sudden out of nowhere, Sitchin writes a book about another
>God which was
>not connected with the pantheon of Nibiruan gods. He brings forth other
>evidences that the
>God of the Bible is the real God and that there is a supreme creator. Is
>he trying to patch
>up an image that has become tarnished by all this demigod talk? Does he
>find now that he
>all of a sudden believes in the God of the Bible after all, or has he
>just discovered faith in
>such a Being?
> I still regard his story with some interest even though I find
>much of it suspect. If this
>planet really exists, perhaps we have looked through a glass darkly in
>reading the Sitchin
>rendition of things and that there is a truth unveiled by the book that
>is incomplete and
>partially correct.
> I would be interested in knowing of any web sites that speak

more

>on the subject of
>sighting this planet and just how close it is to us. If anyone out there
>can give me some
>leads on this I would be curious to check them out.
>
>Scott
>
>
>
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