[allplanets-hollow] Saftey Comes First;an important factor

Hey Guys,

Are you being serious? Or, is this just chewing the fat? Do you really think guns and ammunition are required. I just can't see this myself. If you go in shooting, you think anyone is going to welcome you? Especially if you think they are higher evolved than those inhabitants (humans) who live the surface of the Earth, according to Olaf's tale. How many do you think reside in the HE? Or, how many communities? And then, if attacked, how many do you think you could kill before they blew you all away? Just a question that needs to be analyzed, cuz I think if you are unable to go in peace then you won't make it in at all anyway. Karma or otherwise.

Leslee

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Hey Guys,

Are you being serious? Or, is this just chewing the fat? Do you really think guns and ammunition are required. I just can't see this myself. If you go in shooting, you think anyone is going to welcome you? Especially if you think they are higher evolved than those inhabitants (humans) who live the surface of the Earth, according to Olaf's tale. How many do you think reside in the HE? Or, how many communities? And then, if attacked, how many do you think you could kill before they blew you all away? Just a question that needs to be analyzed, cuz I think if you are unable to go in peace then you won't make it in at all anyway. Karma or otherwise.

Leslee

Leslee,

With all due respect to Russ, I think that we have nothing to fear from Hollow Earthers. If they are the forefathers of the Aryan civilization which we still remember ( vaguely ) on the surface, then they are extremely principles and good, although capable of giving a fight.I just don't think that we would have to worry about them.
But what if we got stranded along the way in wilderness? What if the plane went down? I read four years in the White North by Admoiral MacMillan, and Furthest North by Dr. Nansen. The Arctic is certainly no joke. One day while marching with sledges, MacMillan and company looked up and 12 wolves were dead-heading towards them, fast. They barely had time to raise thei rifles, they didn't shoot a couple of them until they were right at their feet. Even mammoth are probably docile, but what about a pack of hyiennas? Don't they run in packs of 50 or so? They are not Arctic, but what if they opulate that band of forested area within?
I'd rather fly all the way in and just pass over that stuff. The biggest discomfort I want to experience is maybe having to go potty. But just in case, I imagine that some type of weapon would be necessary; but not against the actual residents.
Unless you're thinking about those Eskmos that live on the other side. But again, what's a couple guys with guns against a whole troop of Eskimos?
Calm down, Russ. You're going to get some list members whacked out of shape!

DD

Here is some more interesting Arctive evidence regarding anomalies. I have taken it from page 128 - 132 of the book The Hollow Earth by Dr. Raymond Bernard. He is passing on original info from Gardner, I believe.

" Commander Mc Clure explored Banks Land ( 75* North, Canadian Island ) and found immense quantities of trees thrown in layers by glacious action, which evidently brought them from the North. In one ravine he found a pile of trees closely packed, to a height of forty feet. While some wood was petrified, much of it was of recent origin [ This is significant, because one could say that the wood had been there since the time when the area had a warmer climate, referring to pole shifts, or something along that order. But the explorer noted that, although some of it was petrified, much of the wood was recent. This makes no sense unless the wood drifted out of an openinng with a warmer interior.] These trees were found far beyond the latitude where trees grow.

Gardner says that it is the unanimous testimony of the explorers that " the further North you go, the more animal life there is, a complete proof that there is, in the far North, a great asylum of refuge where every creature can breed in peace and with plenty of food. And from that region must come also evidences of vegetable life which explorers have repeatedly seen, the red pollen of plants that drifts out on favorable breezes and colors whole icebergs and glacier sides with a ruddy tinge, those seeds and buds and branches, and most impressive of all, those representatives of races of animals that yet live on in the interior, although they have disappeared from the outside of the Earth. ( Gardner here refers to mommoths found in frozen ice )

[ Caption to the drawing of a mammoth frozen in ice ] ' Russian fishermen of Tongoose, Siberia, in 1799, discovered a tremendous elephant, in a perfect state of preservation, as when it had died, enclosed in a huge block of ice, as clear as crystal. Though previously supposed to be a prehistoric animal which lived in the polar regions at a previous time when it had a tropical climate, acccording to the theory presented in this book, the elephant came from the Earth's interior, which enjoys a tropical climate, and was frozen on reaching the exterior of the Earth with the Arctic climate.'

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When we penetrate [ that ] land we shall find growing almost to the inner edge of the polar opening those trees of which we have seen so many drifting trunks and branches. We shall find, nesting perhaps in those trees, perhaps in the rocks of the inner polar regions, the knots and swans and wild geese and Ross gulls that we have so often seen in the preceding pages, flying to the North to escape the rigors of climate which we in our ignorance have for so long supposed to be worse in the North than elsewhere.

[ Nansen from the rim of the opening where he experienced curvature problems in navegation ]

How could a fox track be there [ 7815' of latutude, about 137 longitude east], he wondered. Had he known that he had entered the opening that leads to the hollow interior of the Earth and that this was the reason why, the further north he went, the warmer it became, he would have found not only fox tracks but later tropical birds and other animals, and finally the human inhabitants of this ' land beyond the pole ' into which Admiral Byrd penetrated for 1,700 miles by plane and which completely mystified him."

The Hollow Earth is Indicated in Religion and Legends

( An excerpt from Jan Lamprecht’s book “ Hollow Planets ” )

There are many very strange tales, legends and scriptures across the world from ancient times. We have come to believe that our forefathers were, for the most part, liars. But perhaps our judgement on them is too severe for perhaps there were exceptional things which occurred back then which were worth recording.

Take for example the legends of Dragons and the D&D games which have been spawned from this folklore. I have always been struck by the conceptual similarity between dragons and dinosaurs. Could it be that certain types of dinosaurs actually retreated into an underground habitat where, under certain exceptional conditions, they could actually feed, breed and live quite safely from predators?

Across the world one finds tales and legends of strange animals seen over and over again in the same limited geographical area. These creatures may go unseen for decades and then suddenly someone once again sees them. I have long been fascinated by the young but growing science of Cryptozoology. I have wondered if perhaps some of these creatures actually inhabit an underground habitat? Perhaps these creatures live safely underground and occasionally come out of well-concealed entrances to feed. They may be safe in their underground world and may perhaps even have adapted to it very well. Perhaps some of them can drink or feed from underground rivers? Perhaps we have yet to discover the field of subterranean zoology.

Here are a few references from the Bible which hint at something/somebody living underground:-

In Philippians (2:10) we find this reference: "That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow of things in heaven, and things in Earth, and things under the Earth". This quote from Philippians mentions that knees of "things" (creatures?) shall bow. These "things" are all alive. Among these are included the "things" which live "under the Earth.' Is this a reference to subterranean life?

In the book of Revelations (5:3) we find a similar statement, but this time it specifically mentions subterranean humans: "And no man in heaven, nor in Earth, neither under the Earth, was able to open the book, neither look thereon". The suggestion here is that there are also men "under the Earth."

A gentleman by the name of Paul Davault contacted me one day to inform me that he had done a comprehensive study of the Bible to see whether there were any Biblical references to a Hollow Earth. He did this as an exercise for his friends and family. He ended up writing a 170 page book called: On The Face Of The Deep. Davault told me he believes the following reference indicates the existence of a Polar Hole in the Arctic. In Job (26:7) in the Old Testament, one reads: "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the Earth upon nothing".

In the Book of Enoch (76:6-7) we read: "Seven rivers I beheld upon Earth, greater than all rivers, one of which takes its course from the west; into a great sea its water flows. Two come from the north to the sea, their waters flowing into the Erythraean sea, on the east, And with respect to the remaining four, they take their course in the cavity of the North, two to their sea, the Erythraean sea, and two are poured into a great sea, where also it is said there is a desert".

In Plato's Republic we find mention of a God who sits at the centre of the Earth who is responsible for our religions.

The Tibetan Buddhists also have references to a vast Underground Empire populated by millions of people and ruled by a man called Rigden-jyepo and also referred to as The King of the World. The empire is called Agharta and its capital city is Shamballa. A Hindu gentleman once wrote me an e-mail from India and told me that Hindu scriptures also mention a vast underworld. Note: [ The Puranic narrations of the sons of Sagara and their persuit of the sacrificial horse, as well as the narration of the appearance of the Kalki Avatar take place in the hollow portion fo the Earth. ]

In the early days of my interest in the Hollow Earth theory I stumbled upon an Eskimo legend of the "hole-in-the-sea." Could this be a reference to a Polar Hole?

Some people like Theodore Illion and Nicolas Roerich tried to find this Underground Empire earlier this century. Roerich's discussions with a Tibetan Lama (Priest) in 1928 resulted in him being told that if you go far enough North then you will see a reflection from the Underground Empire (aurora?). He was also told that the entrance to the Underground Empire lay far across a sea. What this Tibetan was saying was indeed very similar to what one would expect from the Hollow Earth theory. In recent years another Tibetan Lama who visited the USA stated that Agharta could be reached by flying directly north from India. Could it be that a Polar Hole somewhere in a northern ocean leads one straight into a vast Underground Empire within the Earth?