Hi Dean,
Domestic War Victim is a reference to the following from the "Silent Weapons for
Quiet Wars" Operations Research Technical Manual:
"This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing must
be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as a
technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any person
or group of persons in a position of great power, and without the full knowledge
and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and methodology for economic
conquest -- it must be understood that a state of domestic warfare exists
between said person or group of persons and the public."
No wife or children here but I like your take on the name. That's funny. A
little way in from the entrance the cave branches into two passages. We took the
right passage which seemed to me to veer around almost like a letter u. I was
only there as a child so my memory of the walk from the entrance to the "end" of
the passage we took is after all of these years choppy and distorted. I was told
that the left passage we didn't take went on for around seventeen miles or so.
There's no mention of this in the article and it sounds like a different cave
but it's definitely the same one. I want to go back there and look for that hole
in the side of the cave wall I found at the "end" of the passage. If it was
blocked or sealed up then what would that indicate?
Ryan
Re: 17 Mile Cave
Posted by: "Dean D" [email protected] deandddd
Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:22 am (PDT)
Domestic War Victim,
(Does this name mean that your wife knocks you around at home? Pots and pans,
rollers?)
I had never heard about this cave. It almost seems like a tunnel. Does it
meander much, or is it rather straight?
Whether or not the tunnel has it, grafitti does fly in the face of sterile,
doctored up corporate-news type of history. The rune inscriptions in eastern
Oklahoma, for example, tell of a Scandanavian connection. You won't find that in
any textbooks.
Dean
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wrote:
This article I found about 17 mile cave seems to be inaccurate:
http://ezinearticle s.com/?17- Mile-Cave% 2C-Idaho- --Here-There- Are-Monsters&
id=976856The article says: "As the cave does not branch, there's no chance of getting
lost, though it is absolutely dark inside when out of sight of the entrance."IF I am understanding this correctly the author is saying that the cave does
not branch as in it's just one passage from the entrance to the "end". It's not.
At a certain point it splits off into two passages. A passage that veers off to
the right and a passage that veers off to the left. When I went there as a child
there wasn't any graffiti in there that I remember seeing either. It is called
SEVENTEEN MILE cave for a reason. I was told that the passage we did not take
went on for miles and miles. We reached the end of the passage that we DID take
in a short amount of time. However I discovered something there that nobody else
present seemed to take any interest in.In the side of the cave wall there was a hole with lantern light streaming out
of it. It was big enough for me to crawl through. I poked my head in to look but
there was a stone overhang on the other side of the hole that blocked the view
into the lantern lit chamber.I could see down on the ground though and I saw blue plaid cloth material like
a sleeping bag or clothing. At the same moment I looked down at the cave floor
on the other side of the hole, I heard what sounded exactly like the rattling of
a rattlesnake. Meanwhile the others I went there with were all heading back
toward the entrance since we had made it to the end. Of course the light filled
chamber on the other side of the hole proved to me that it wasn't really the end
at all.I had to go after them before I was all by myself there with what sounded like
a rattlesnake in the chamber I couldn't see into. They were moving off so
quickly that I was sure they would have just left me there alone. I never saw a
rattlesnake. The fact that there was light coming from the chamber on the other
side of the hole and that I saw cloth material on the floor of the chamber says
that there was someone in there.Either there was somebody on the other side shaking a snake rattle or there was
really some monstrous rattlesnake in there that had killed the person on the
other side of the hole. The live rattlesnake theory seems very unlikely. Even
comical to me. It would seem to me that someone was trying to scare me off.Why is the author of the article saying the cave does not branch if he's being
honest and I'm understanding him correctly? His description of the cave sounds
nothing like the cave I was in. It is the same "17 mile cave" though.Either I misunderstand his description, the left passage has been hidden
somehow or he is lying.
"All cruelty springs from weakness." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca
"When we think of cruelty, we must try to remember the stupidity,
the envy, the frustration from which it has arisen." - Edith Sitwell
"The United States has become a vast nut house inside a debtor's prison" - Kevin