Where is the Opening?

I woke this morning, hopefully, solving the riddle of why there is at
this time no apparent opening to the HE. The answer comes
from 'Etidorhpa'.

The plane of zero gravity is 700 miles from the exterior surface, 100
miles from the interior surface. This means that unlike on the
surface where if you have a hole in the bottom of a can or a funnel
the water will fall out, through or in. With zero gravity the water
will not fall. Therefore imagine a can or funnel much bigger in scale
like the size of the opening to the HE. At the plane of zero gravity
the funnel filled with water would be a quiet lake; it becomes
quiescent. The water above it, which from the inside would seem to be
beneath it, would not fall or move because there is no gravity to
move it. It just remains there. The opening or hole is filled with
water and naturally ices over the same as the rest of the ocean.

Global,

Any funnel would have an opening at the neck of at least 90 miles because
the radiation of the aurora is seen to shoot out in a circular curtain
instead of a solid beam. The friction which agitates the inner sun's rays
takes place withing the atmosphere. In the middle of the neck there must be
a so-called vacuum where there is no air. Again, this suggests an opening at
least 90 miles wide at the neck- at least!

The plane of zero gravity was/is a plane of light of a neutral charge, "
balanced " as the Guide said. This plane of light does not seem to extend
laterally across the opening where the water of the Arctic ocean is. The
ocean water would have to sit within the layer of light or something like
that.

Rather than this, the water seems to hug the surface and curve around. I
didn't get the impression that the zone of zero gravity accessed the neck of
the opening.

I think it is great that you have read Etidorhpa. Cater's physics
substantiates the whole book. You can explain every phenomena in Etidorhpa
in terms of Cater. For example, that the effects of gravity diminished as
they descended into the Earth's shell corresponds to Cater's presentation
that the electrostatic charge is strong to about 50 miles down, and that
then it diminishes. How did Cater get the figure 50 miles? Did he go down
and measure? No- he uses the figure given in Etidorhpa. The book is the
point of reference for Cater's soft particle physics and he openly explains
his book in relation to Etidorhpa. Cater called Etidorhpa the greatest
hollow Earth book ever.

Have you read Cater?

Let me know, I'm interested.

Dharma/Dean

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I woke this morning, hopefully, solving the riddle of why there is at
this time no apparent opening to the HE. The answer comes
from 'Etidorhpa'.

The plane of zero gravity is 700 miles from the exterior surface, 100
miles from the interior surface. This means that unlike on the
surface where if you have a hole in the bottom of a can or a funnel
the water will fall out, through or in. With zero gravity the water
will not fall. Therefore imagine a can or funnel much bigger in scale
like the size of the opening to the HE. At the plane of zero gravity
the funnel filled with water would be a quiet lake; it becomes
quiescent. The water above it, which from the inside would seem to be
beneath it, would not fall or move because there is no gravity to
move it. It just remains there. The opening or hole is filled with
water and naturally ices over the same as the rest of the ocean.

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Hey All,

Attacched is a NASA photo of the aurora. A very unusual one, as the ring is
broken around the point where Nansen experienced his anomalies in the ship
Fram.

Any comments?

Frode- In the context of Cater, what would you say?

Let's all give Rod a click and tell him thanks for forwarding this unusual
pic to our list: [email protected] <[email protected]

Dean

Hey All,

Attacched is a NASA photo of the aurora. A very unusual one, as the ring is
broken around the point where Nansen experienced his anomalies in the ship
Fram.

Any comments?

Frode- In the context of Cater, what would you say?

I would say that one picture say close to nothing, but if this is a pattern that is repeated throughout the year it would be interesting. What does Rod say about it?

Frode

Frode,

Is this guy a big shot? He visited my site.

Dean

Frode,

Is this guy a big shot? He visited my site.

http://www.doug-kirton.de/

Dean

Don't know him. Why did he visit your site?

Frode

Frode,

At your suggestion, I went back and read Chapter 19 of The Awesome Life
Force, the part about radiation and nuclear processes. Cater says that when
the nuclei in fissionable material are bombarded by additional neutrons,
that the increased activity in the nuclei causes the photon aggregates in
the vicinity to disintegrate. This releases the hard electrons, hence the
heat and destruction, and the breakup of the photons accounts for the light.

Since the rays of the Sun contain these hard electrons, then this " suggests
" that the sun of our solar system is a nuclear process, like Norlan was
saying. Since these types of electrons do not emanate from the sun within
the Earth, then the inner sun probably is not a matter of a nuke process.

But how does this understanding tie in with the heating mechanism which
Cater mentions in Chapter 15, in relation to large globes? At one point he
says this: " The actual source of the energy that is finally radiated into
outer space is the soft particles and photons normally radiated by the atoms
of the material inside a sun. This is due to the activities of the
fundamental particles. "

I am wondering if the particles don't leave the sun as the " soft particles
and photons normally radiated by the atoms, " like Cater mentions, but
then when the soft particle reaches the atmosphere, it breaks up and
liberates the visible electron within. Cater does not seem to think that a
nuclear process is going on.

This is worth discussing and getting to the bottom of, because the model has
to be cohesive. Once we develop our thoughts on this matter, I'd even be
willing to call him up about it. Anyway, here is the whole thing that Cater
says:

CHAPTER 15

THE NEW COSMOLOGY, THE SOURCE OF THE SUN'S
RADIANT ENERGY, AND
THE CAUSE OF NOVAS AND SUNSPOTS

One thing that all suns seem to have in common is their great size in
comparison to planets. The astrophysicists speak of white dwarfs of
planetary size and less. It is apparent from the evidence that has been
presented throughout this treatise that any claims made by astrononauts or
astrophysicists pertaining to celestial determinations have about the same
degee of merit as the other scientific claims that have been mentioned
previously. There is nothing to justify the existence of a white dwarf. For
one thing, due to its small size and its limited gravitational in-fluence it
could only hold very small bodies of asteroid size in orbits, and then only
for a short distance away. According to the fallacious theories of orthodox
science, a white dwarf consists of atoms with prac-tically all their
electrons stripped away, and hence possesses enormous gravity. It will be
shown that astrophysicists have no way of accurately determing the distance
away or the size of stars.

The larger the body, the greater its mass or volume in proportion to its
surface area This means that, as the size increases, it is less probable
that the energies produced by the normal activities of the atoms in the
body's interior will escape from the surface without a resultant increase in
the temperature of its surface. The energy radiated from the surface will be
in the form of photons and other particles of all types. Below a critical
size, the surface area [ of a globe ] is sufficicut to allow all of the
radiant energy created in its interior to escape without an increase in
temperature. In fact, such a body will lose heat unless it receives
sufficient energy from its surroundings.
As a body increases in size, its surface area becomes increasingly in
inadequate to allow the radiated energy in its interior to escape without a
buildup of heat at and below the surface. The surface will radiate the heat
or energy outward as quickly as it is created in the interior. The rate at
which energy is radiated from a surface increases rapidly with a resul-tant
increase in surface temperature. This varies as the fourth power of its
absolute temperature. For example, within a certain temperature range, if
the temperature is doubled, the rate at which energy in the form of photons
and soft particles is radiated increases by a factor of16.

The critical size of such a body will depend on its composition. For
example, if it contains a high concentration of mildly radioactive
substances, this critical size will be less. If the body has a hollow
condition, the outside dimensions would have to be greater. The red giants,
if they are even close to the dimensions claimed, would have to be hollow
with relatively thin shells; otherwise, they wouldn't be red. Their surface
temperatures would be astronomical.

The actual source of the energy that is finally radiated into outer space is
the soft particles and photons normally radiated by the atoms of the
material inside a sun. This is due to the activities of the fundamental
par-ticles. Because of the great mass of the Sun, an abnormal concentration
of these soft particles is always present in the interior. This
concentration is greatest near the surface. There is a steady increase in
intensity from the center toward the outside. This results in a continuous
disintegration of a high percentage of those particles near the surface,
which is accompanied by a great increase in temperature, which in turn
results in a greater rate of disintegration. At the same time, the rate at
which the soft particles are created increases. A state of near equilibrium
exists when the rate at which the soft particles are created in the interior
interior approx-imately equals the rate at which they disintegrate. It would
follow, then, that the highest temperatures exist at the surface and
steadily decrease with the distance below the surface. This means that any
sun has a relatively cool interior.
The principle that size is the major factor in a celestial body's ability to
radiate is confirmed by the behavior of very large planets such as Jupiter
and Saturn. An application of this principle indicates that bodies of such
size should start radiating more energy than they receive from outside
sources. Recent determinations indicate that both Jupiter and Saturn do, in
fact, radiate more energy than they receive from the Sun. A recent probe
showed a surprisingly higher temperature in Jupiter's upper at-mosphere than
was formerly believed to exist.

It now becomes apparent that the conventional theory which states that the
radiant energy of the Sun is produced by thermonuclear reactions is complete
nonsense. One thing to consider is that, if this were the case, the Sun's
radiation would be so lethal that no life could exist on any of the planets
in the solar system. The deadly and highly radoactive radiations resulting
from this kind of reaction would be simply too much for nature to cope with
on a daily basis. The high concentrations of ultraviolet rays are potent
enough, but this has been mitigated by the atmosphere and the law of
redistribution of energy.

Hi dean,

I am a little short in time this days. The other list have taken all my focus for a while. It seams like the discussion there is settling, so I will come back to your questions soon. At least I hope...

:slight_smile:

Frode

Frode,

I called Cater again, mostly because of another issue.

But I asked him about the sun being a nuclear process because, after all, it
emits hard electrons. He confirmed what I said in the fourth paragraph down,
that the sun actually emanates soft electrons, they hit the atmosphere as
soft ones, and change into hard electrons once they hit the atmosphere.

What do you think about this? It is congruent with the rest of his scheme,
but not with NASA.

Dharma/Dean

Frode,

At your suggestion, I went back and read Chapter 19 of The Awesome Life
Force, the part about radiation and nuclear processes. Cater says that

when

the nuclei in fissionable material are bombarded by additional neutrons,
that the increased activity in the nuclei causes the photon aggregates in
the vicinity to disintegrate. This releases the hard electrons, hence the
heat and destruction, and the breakup of the photons accounts for the

light.

Since the rays of the Sun contain these hard electrons, then this "

suggests

" that the sun of our solar system is a nuclear process, like Norlan was
saying. Since these types of electrons do not emanate from the sun within
the Earth, then the inner sun probably is not a matter of a nuke process.

But how does this understanding tie in with the heating mechanism which
Cater mentions in Chapter 15, in relation to large globes? At one point he
says this: " The actual source of the energy that is finally radiated into
outer space is the soft particles and photons normally radiated by the

atoms

of the material inside a sun. This is due to the activities of the
fundamental particles. "

I am wondering if the particles don't leave the sun as the " soft

particles

and photons normally radiated by the atoms, " like Cater mentions, but
then when the soft particle reaches the atmosphere, it breaks up and
liberates the visible electron within. Cater does not seem to think that a
nuclear process is going on.

This is worth discussing and getting to the bottom of, because the model

has

to be cohesive. Once we develop our thoughts on this matter, I'd even be
willing to call him up about it. Anyway, here is the whole thing that

Cater

says:

CHAPTER 15

THE NEW COSMOLOGY, THE SOURCE OF THE SUN'S
RADIANT ENERGY, AND
THE CAUSE OF NOVAS AND SUNSPOTS

One thing that all suns seem to have in common is their great size in
comparison to planets. The astrophysicists speak of white dwarfs of
planetary size and less. It is apparent from the evidence that has been
presented throughout this treatise that any claims made by astrononauts or
astrophysicists pertaining to celestial determinations have about the

same

degee of merit as the other scientific claims that have been mentioned
previously. There is nothing to justify the existence of a white dwarf.

For

one thing, due to its small size and its limited gravitational in-fluence

it

could only hold very small bodies of asteroid size in orbits, and then

only

for a short distance away. According to the fallacious theories of

orthodox

science, a white dwarf consists of atoms with prac-tically all their
electrons stripped away, and hence possesses enormous gravity. It will be
shown that astrophysicists have no way of accurately determing the

distance

away or the size of stars.

The larger the body, the greater its mass or volume in proportion to its
surface area This means that, as the size increases, it is less probable
that the energies produced by the normal activities of the atoms in the
body's interior will escape from the surface without a resultant increase

in

the temperature of its surface. The energy radiated from the surface will

be

in the form of photons and other particles of all types. Below a critical
size, the surface area [ of a globe ] is sufficicut to allow all of the
radiant energy created in its interior to escape without an increase in
temperature. In fact, such a body will lose heat unless it receives
sufficient energy from its surroundings.
As a body increases in size, its surface area becomes increasingly in
inadequate to allow the radiated energy in its interior to escape without

a

buildup of heat at and below the surface. The surface will radiate the

heat

or energy outward as quickly as it is created in the interior. The rate at
which energy is radiated from a surface increases rapidly with a

resul-tant

increase in surface temperature. This varies as the fourth power of its
absolute temperature. For example, within a certain temperature range, if
the temperature is doubled, the rate at which energy in the form of

photons

and soft particles is radiated increases by a factor of16.

The critical size of such a body will depend on its composition. For
example, if it contains a high concentration of mildly radioactive
substances, this critical size will be less. If the body has a hollow
condition, the outside dimensions would have to be greater. The red

giants,

if they are even close to the dimensions claimed, would have to be hollow
with relatively thin shells; otherwise, they wouldn't be red. Their

surface

temperatures would be astronomical.

The actual source of the energy that is finally radiated into outer space

is

the soft particles and photons normally radiated by the atoms of the
material inside a sun. This is due to the activities of the fundamental
par-ticles. Because of the great mass of the Sun, an abnormal

concentration

of these soft particles is always present in the interior. This
concentration is greatest near the surface. There is a steady increase in
intensity from the center toward the outside. This results in a continuous
disintegration of a high percentage of those particles near the surface,
which is accompanied by a great increase in temperature, which in turn
results in a greater rate of disintegration. At the same time, the rate at
which the soft particles are created increases. A state of near

equilibrium

exists when the rate at which the soft particles are created in the

interior

interior approx-imately equals the rate at which they disintegrate. It

would

follow, then, that the highest temperatures exist at the surface and
steadily decrease with the distance below the surface. This means that any
sun has a relatively cool interior.
The principle that size is the major factor in a celestial body's ability

to

radiate is confirmed by the behavior of very large planets such as Jupiter
and Saturn. An application of this principle indicates that bodies of

such

size should start radiating more energy than they receive from outside
sources. Recent determinations indicate that both Jupiter and Saturn do,

in

fact, radiate more energy than they receive from the Sun. A recent probe
showed a surprisingly higher temperature in Jupiter's upper at-mosphere

than

was formerly believed to exist.

It now becomes apparent that the conventional theory which states that the
radiant energy of the Sun is produced by thermonuclear reactions is

complete

nonsense. One thing to consider is that, if this were the case, the Sun's
radiation would be so lethal that no life could exist on any of the

planets

in the solar system. The deadly and highly radoactive radiations resulting
from this kind of reaction would be simply too much for nature to cope

with

···

on a daily basis. The high concentrations of ultraviolet rays are potent
enough, but this has been mitigated by the atmosphere and the law of
redistribution of energy.

Rob,

I think that I have to eat some crow.

Yesterday, I defended the idea of low frequency electrons spewing out of the
Earth's orifices to illuminate the dark side of the Moon at eclipse time. I
said:

" But I was talking, first of all, about low frequency, invisible electrons
spewing out of the polar openings, and an attraction from the dark side
caused by a lack of electron flow to that area, from the inner sun of the
Moon. An attraction from that spot could account for all kinds of electrons
and photon aggregates, from the Earth's inner sun, being brought over, so
to speak.

Or, as I mentioned, the cosmic rays exist in all space, and also consist of
invisible photon aggregates which contain the visible electron within their
structure. They are the source of electricity's manifestation eveywhere,
even here on the Earth. A condenser only disintegrates the invisible photon
aggregate around it. Anyway, these cosmic rays would also rush in from " all
sides," as Cater says, and help to fill the lack of electrons in the
eclipsed area."

But I spoke with Cater by phone last night, and he felt that the source of
the low frequency, invisible electrons which illuminate the dark side, is
simply the cosmic rays. The rays of the Earth's inner sun and the cosmic
rays are very similar in makeup anyway, if not the same thing, but it is the
cosmic rays that would rush right in to the darkened portion, not the rays
from the inner sun of the Earth.

The harder, visible electrons would still be released when the photon
aggregate strikes the atmosphere, and they would still have their frequency
redistributed as they made their way down through the atmosphere. The fact
that they arrive to the red band of the spectrum suggests that the Moon's
atmosphere is denser than the Earth's, according to Mr. Cater, and that the
Moon has enough gravity to hold it down.

So I was wrong to think that those electrons flow all the way over from the
Earth to the Moon.

The cosmic rays are the " atmosphere " of outer space. Space is not a void-
space is filled in by cosmic rays, everywhere.

The same low frequency electron and photon aggregate, which we call cosmic
rays, are emitted by the Earth's inner sun. They flow across the planet
following the magnetic lines of force, attracting the air molecults
electrostatically, and thus forming the air currents.

In this way, it is not so hard to see how the Puranas call the element,
which develops after ether, vayu or wind; and Cater says that the cosmic
rays develop after ether. Vayu, or wind, is the cosmic rays. Again, the
cosmic rays are the atmosphere of outer space. On our planet, they underlie
and animate the wind currents just as prana animates our bodies with energy.
The words prana and vayu are used interchangeably.

But back to the illumination of the darkened side of the Moon during
eclipse. The question is whether or not the Dark side is illuminated by the
Earth's inner sun, by the refraction of light from the inner sun,
electrostatic attraction, or whatever. The answer is no. We've all been
trying to figure out how it is that the light from the Earth's inner sun is
directed towards the dark side of the moon at eclipse because we couldn't
see any other source of illumination.

But once again, Cater's concept of a low frequency aggreagate which houses a
visible electron has re-written the books in its harmonic and cohesive
manner. There is illumination, and it can become ochre in color, but it does
not originate from the Earth. The cosmic rays are the origin.

Once they reach the Moon's atmosphere, however, the rest of the process is
just like Cater outlined. It was me who was adding on and saying that the
inner sun of the Earth was reaching over with its shining.

Until Later, Dharma/Dean

That's about it for now.

Here is some info about monitoring icebergs that I got from Fernando
Ferrolli.

http://winds.jpl.nasa.gov/news/antarctica.html

Posted by Dharma/Dean

Frode,

A question just dawned on me. Do you think that the pollution in the air has
an impact on the process of redistribution of energy? The process depends on
interaction with the fundamental particles, and needs to penetrate in the
first place to occur.

Dharma/Dean

Microwave Earth Remote Sensing Laboratories

http://www.ee.byu.edu/ee/mers/mers-home.html

Dharma / Dean

Frode or anyone,

I can't find the address of Nemesis Magazine. What is it?

Dean

Frode or anyone,

I can't find the address of Nemesis Magazine. What is it?

Dean

Do you mean this one:

http://nemesis.alphalink.com.au/page6.html

Frode

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Frode,

A question just dawned on me. Do you think that the pollution in the air has
an impact on the process of redistribution of energy? The process depends on
interaction with the fundamental particles, and needs to penetrate in the
first place to occur.

Dharma/Dean

To some extent, yes. What is your concern in this matter?

Frode

List Members,

Something just dawned on me. This radar that is constantly " monitoring "
the polar areas is, at the same time, and I do mean simultaneously,
introducing certain radiations into the orifices! From Cater's soft particle
physics, we know how it is that certain frequencies of radiations can
combine with the fundamental particles of the atoms to produce certain
effects- this is how gravity charges are produced, for example. I wonder if
something funny isn't going on.

Here is some info about monitoring icebergs that I got from Fernando
Ferrolli.

http://winds.jpl.nasa.gov/news/antarctica.html

Posted by Dharma/Dean

And another thing- the sunshine from the inner Earth contains no ultraviolet
light, and hence the ozone holes, while the surface world has taken a few
steps to conserve the ozone. Could there be any conflict of interest between
the two worlds?

And how does all the carbon and pollution which we emit into the atmosphere
affect the amount of sunlight which reaches the ground? This sunlight, as it
undergoes transformation, passes through the Earth's shell and feeds the
inner sun.

Dharma/Dean

>Frode,
>
>A question just dawned on me. Do you think that the pollution in the air

has

>an impact on the process of redistribution of energy? The process depends

on

>interaction with the fundamental particles, and needs to penetrate in the
>first place to occur.
>
>Dharma/Dean
>

To some extent, yes. What is your concern in this matter?

Well, is the surface world having some impact on the inner sun by their
pollution?

Read my post about the constant radar streaming into the inner earth.

Dean

Re-posted by Dean/Dharma

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Nasty indeed!

http://lasco-www.nrl.navy.mil/current_mpg/current_c3.mpg

Ouch and damn. We will probably be fine but take care not to kill anybody
in the next 48 hours. It is a difficult time. Trust me. Even as we speak.

Steve

ALERT: SOLAR PROTON BLAST

9/12/00: A large coronal mass ejection, probably a full halo CME, was
observed following a very long duration M1.0 event which peaked at 12:13

UTC.

The source of this event was a huge filament eruption in the southern
hemisphere, stretching about 30 degrees west from region 9158 (and across

the

central meridian). This CME could cause a serious disturbance on September

14

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On 12 Sep 00, at 20:23, [email protected] wrote:

or 15 as it impacts Earth, minor to severe storming is possible!

Event Gallery:
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Hey All,

That picture by nancy is wild because there was no solar wind at the time.
The display must be indicative of the opening.

I've got it on my site, all the way at the bottom at:
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index7.html

Dean