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Ralph, I enjoyed these vanishing people tales, I remember the Royal Norfolk battalion tale of 1915. The vanishing Eskimo's is weird, but they could've 'gone home' to hollow earth. This may be a time travel/interdimensional phenomena like they tried to replicate in the Philadelphia Experiment, with an EM field, (green fog, also seen in Bermuda Triangle) and since perfected, which evolved into Montauk.
John A Quinn, another martyr of the underground resistance said,
Another aspect of the Montauk Project which many have difficulty in accepting is the alleged development and use of "time portal" or "tunnel" technology, allowing Project operators access to both other dimensions and other periods of "time".
But the hundreds of metallic spheres found by South Africans, (on this web-site) at least one of which has three parallel grooves running around its equator, is inexplicable by anything other than the fact that intelligent life was on this planet 2.8 billion years ago. The spheres are of two types "one of solid bluish metal with white flecks, and another which is a hollow ball filled with a white spongy centre" They don't look natural sediment formations. Why are such anomalies generally ignored?
Hazel
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Hazel (from Dick Fojut)... Just a reminder about Al Bielek, THE primary source for the Montauk "Philadelphia Experiment" story in recent years. As I mentioned sometime back, my wife and I were good friends of Al over 30 years back. He lived in Phoenix. Sometimes he'd stay overnight at our home in Tucson enroute to his various contract engineering jobs (or going to visit other friends). At that time he knew no more about the Philadelphia Experiment than we did. All 3 of us were fascinated by the idea and discussed it.
Then we didn't hear from him for years. (Not unusual). We heard through another of his friends, that his contract assignments had lessened and he was also having problems with his eyesight. Perhaps even going blind.
But then to our surprise one night, we heard Al on ART BELL describing how the commercial MOVIE had triggered his memories and he remembered he (and a brother we never heard he had) were the two naval officers who went through the experience. Al always talked brilliantly and convincingly on ANY technical subject and he was just as convincing on Art Bell about the Philadelphia Experiment.
And we honestly are unsure whether Al (whom we'd always considered honest) is telling the truth... or is one of the slickest con men around.
What has bothered me in more recent times when we have heard Al on talk radio (or read what he has said) is that his story gets BIGGER each time, more and more embellished. From just one accidental trip to the past, Al has gone on multiple trips into the future and again into the past. The government hypnotized him and re-planted his "soul" or "spirit" into a later baby body (Al Bielek). Aliens have apparently also slipped into the story and what else I don't know. My personal doubts have greatly tipped the scale.
But if I hear he, like some others, has now also embraced Sitchin, I will once more throw up! I hope I don't hear something like that. Don't tell me!
- Dick Fojut
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Vanished! Unexplained DisappeaDick, It's hard to discern who's genuine and who's disseminating military propaganda...but I was inclined to believe Bielek (that ring of truth) although it is an incredible tale. However, it was the correspondance between Carl Allende and Dr. Morris K. Jessup which was compelling back in the forties, regarding the Philadelphia Experiment. Jessup was another casualty of the cover-up. He had figured out the electromagnetic technology employed and the propulsion system of UFO's. He phoned his friend Dr. Valentine to say he was coming over with his thesis, he never arrived but was found in his car with a pipe attached to the exhaust, inside the car. No documents were found on him and his house was ransacked. I also read at the end of that book, they may have a device to wear around your waist, to render the wearer invisible. That was in 1943! I think this experiment has evolved. Hazel
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Hazel (from Dick Fojut)... Just a reminder about Al Bielek, THE primary source for the Montauk "Philadelphia Experiment" story in recent years. As I mentioned sometime back, my wife and I were good friends of Al over 30 years back. He lived in Phoenix. Sometimes he'd stay overnight at our home in Tucson enroute to his various contract engineering jobs (or going to visit other friends). At that time he knew no more about the Philadelphia Experiment than we did. All 3 of us were fascinated by the idea and discussed it.
Then we didn't hear from him for years. (Not unusual). We heard through another of his friends, that his contract assignments had lessened and he was also having problems with his eyesight. Perhaps even going blind.
But then to our surprise one night, we heard Al on ART BELL describing how the commercial MOVIE had triggered his memories and he remembered he (and a brother we never heard he had) were the two naval officers who went through the experience. Al always talked brilliantly and convincingly on ANY technical subject and he was just as convincing on Art Bell about the Philadelphia Experiment.
And we honestly are unsure whether Al (whom we'd always considered honest) is telling the truth... or is one of the slickest con men around.
What has bothered me in more recent times when we have heard Al on talk radio (or read what he has said) is that his story gets BIGGER each time, more and more embellished. From just one accidental trip to the past, Al has gone on multiple trips into the future and again into the past. The government hypnotized him and re-planted his "soul" or "spirit" into a later baby body (Al Bielek). Aliens have apparently also slipped into the story and what else I don't know. My personal doubts have greatly tipped the scale.
But if I hear he, like some others, has now also embraced Sitchin, I will once more throw up! I hope I don't hear something like that. Don't tell me!
- Dick Fojut
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But the hundreds of metallic spheres found by South Africans, (on this web-site) at least one of which has three parallel grooves running around its equator, is inexplicable by anything other than the fact that intelligent life was on this planet 2.8 billion years ago. The spheres are of two types "one of solid bluish metal with white flecks, and another which is a hollow ball filled with a white spongy centre" They don't look natural sediment formations. Why are such anomalies generally ignored?
Hazel
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:05 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Vanished! Unexplained Disappearances - Page One
Dick, It's hard to discern who's genuine and who's disseminating military propaganda...but I was inclined to believe Bielek (that ring of truth) although it is an incredible tale. However, it was the correspondance between Carl Allende and Dr. Morris K. Jessup which was compelling back in the forties, regarding the Philadelphia Experiment. Jessup was another casualty of the cover-up. He had figured out the electromagnetic technology employed and the propulsion system of UFO's. He phoned his friend Dr. Valentine to say he was coming over with his thesis, he never arrived but was found in his car with a pipe attached to the exhaust, inside the car. No documents were found on him and his house was ransacked. I also read at the end of that book, they may have a device to wear around your waist, to render the wearer invisible. That was in 1943! I think this experiment has evolved. Hazel
Hazel... Although I've heard of the two above men, I wasn't aware they discussed the Philadelphia Experiment. Interesting. Predates anything we heard by many years. Thanks for the tip. About Bielek... I hold no suspicion that Al is disseminating military propaganda. Unlikely. We like Al. We'd like to believe Al. But its getting more difficult as he embellishes. - Dick
John A Quinn, another martyr of the underground resistance said,
Another aspect of the Montauk Project which many have difficulty in accepting is the alleged development and use of "time portal" or "tunnel" technology, allowing Project operators access to both other dimensions and other periods of "time".
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Hazel (from Dick Fojut)... Just a reminder about Al Bielek, THE primary source for the Montauk "Philadelphia Experiment" story in recent years. As I mentioned sometime back, my wife and I were good friends of Al over 30 years back. He lived in Phoenix. Sometimes he'd stay overnight at our home in Tucson enroute to his various contract engineering jobs (or going to visit other friends). At that time he knew no more about the Philadelphia Experiment than we did. All 3 of us were fascinated by the idea and discussed it.
Then we didn't hear from him for years. (Not unusual). We heard through another of his friends, that his contract assignments had lessened and he was also having problems with his eyesight. Perhaps even going blind.
But then to our surprise one night, we heard Al on ART BELL describing how the commercial MOVIE had triggered his memories and he remembered he (and a brother we never heard he had) were the two naval officers who went through the experience. Al always talked brilliantly and convincingly on ANY technical subject and he was just as convincing on Art Bell about the Philadelphia Experiment.
And we honestly are unsure whether Al (whom we'd always considered honest) is telling the truth... or is one of the slickest con men around.
What has bothered me in more recent times when we have heard Al on talk radio (or read what he has said) is that his story gets BIGGER each time, more and more embellished. From just one accidental trip to the past, Al has gone on multiple trips into the future and again into the past. The government hypnotized him and re-planted his "soul" or "spirit" into a later baby body (Al Bielek). Aliens have apparently also slipped into the story and what else I don't know. My personal doubts have greatly tipped the scale.
But if I hear he, like some others, has now also embraced Sitchin, I will once more throw up! I hope I don't hear something like that. Don't tell me!
- Dick Fojut
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But the hundreds of metallic spheres found by South Africans, (on this web-site) at least one of which has three parallel grooves running around its equator, is inexplicable by anything other than the fact that intelligent life was on this planet 2.8 billion years ago. The spheres are of two types "one of solid bluish metal with white flecks, and another which is a hollow ball filled with a white spongy centre" They don't look natural sediment formations. Why are such anomalies generally ignored?
Hazel
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:05 AM
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Hazel: I have a couple books that deal with time travel and I heard of the Eskimo village disappearing before. One story told of a guy from a marching band who went into a field in Ca and disappeared. I read elsewhere to make me believe that he was transported to Australia. Also about a guard who was transported to Mexico and told of someone's death before news reached there. I was only getting at that because of what I read in the Hefferlin Manuscript that they may have a teleportation device at the S. Pole at Rainbow City. I think it is weird . I would have to dig up some of the stories on this for more details. I don't think this accounts for all disappearances , but I think that we should take teleportation into account since we don't know where all of these people have gone. I just received this as an email from the paranormal thats why I sent it in. From: Ralph
Ralph, I've heard of the cases you mention, people disappearing and turning up thousands of miles away. We must read the same 'unexplained mysteries' literature. Perhaps there are natural time warps in existence that people inadvertantly slip into but then it could be the old ET's again, or worse, our government! I wrote this tale in my book about Rainbow City, I have no idea if it's true....
The Rainbow City was also visited by a man named Emery in 1942, beneath the South Polar region. His expedition found living quarters, shops, hospitals and museums, but everything was on a larger scale than usual, designed for subterrestrials over eight feet tall. There was a central pyramidal temple which contained a 'learning chair' and one could acquire knowledge of the 'Venusian' language rapidly by this method and read from a colossal library full of books, that also spoke their contents.
Hazel
Hazel: That story that you mentioned about Emery in your book is the same one from the Hefferlin Manuscript. It was Emery who established a telepathic connection with Mrs. Hefferlin and then later channeled the S. Pole information to her. I'll have to reread it and post some of the story since its an out of print booklet. From: Ralph
Ralph,
What was Emery's connection to "Doreal," if any?
Do you have a copy of Kafton-Minkel's book, SUBTERRANEAN
WORLDS?
--Mike
Immediately after the Murrah Building blew up, during all this commotion,
the lady reporter on the news kept talking about the UNDERGROUND TUNNELS,
which had been blown open. She kept referring to the HUGE UNDERGROUND
TUNNELS and there may be people trapped in there. I heard her refer to the
UNDERGROUND TUNNELS at least about 6 to 7 times during the period I watched.
I'm not quite sure how long that was. Maybe 1 to 2 hours.
"A lady friend of mine called me and wanted to know if I had seen the
FIREMAN ON THE SCENE, who went in front of the camera, totally freaked,
wide-eyed and scared, who talked about HUGE UNDERGROUND TUNNELS, where
ENORMOUS SUPPLIES OF ARMS WERE STORED. He said he saw MISSILES, TANKS, ETC.,
ETC. I don't remember what else he saw. But HE WAS TOTALLY FREAKED OUT. He
looked like he had seen a ghost
An 18-level underground base? CIA involvement? A huge military arsenal?
Unless I'm mistaken, could this be ONE of the NEW WORLD ORDER underground
bases mentioned by Phil Schneider? If so, then if or when an attempted
UNITED NATIONS crack-down on American Patriots, AND/OR a possible European
NEW WORLD ORDER invasion of American soil occurs... could such an invasion
come not only from the air, ground and sea, but from BELOW as well? Take
note that Oklahoma City is supposed to be one of the 'biggie' NWO transfer
points when things get rolling, or so the 'Commu-Nazi's' running the New
World Order plot hope. There are some who believe that the U.N. - N.W.O.
forces are attempting to precipitate internal civil crisis' in America as a
pretext to bringing in multi-national U.N. "peace-keeping" forces to restore
"order", that is, the "New World" type of "Order". (Branton.)
Hazel
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Mike, Did Doreal go to Agartha? And did you know Jaques Vallee famous
ufologist was a debunker in the employ of the military with J.Allen Hynek on
Project Blue Book? I've just been watching the kids play Perfect Dark on
Nintendo, there's an alien called the 'blonde freak,' a very handsome fellow
until he shape-shifts into a hideous saurian extraterrestrial. Hazel.
Good question: DID he, or did he SAY that he did? I'll look into it
and get back to you.
Yes, but Vallee rejected both his government employers and
their interference or even stifling of his investigations, and went
on to collect some truly amazing data and investigate on his
own. His research is some of the best ever done on UFOs.
I've just been watching the kids play Perfect Dark on
Hazel.
Argh! Conditioning, or a warning?
Have you read Icke's latest book, btw?
--Mike
shape-shifts into a > hideous saurian extraterrestrial.
Did he look like this one? 8)
Mike,
Brain-washing, or twisting the facts.
Only the intro on his site, I can't wait to read The Matrix, I shall pore
over it looking for PROOF, of his shape-shifting reptiles, it better be
there!! The rest I'm sure is all true...
Hazel
Jan, Yes, pretty much. Gosh, now I'm scared, brilliant artwork though. Hazel
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