The trip in

>Frode,
>
>Another consideration about going in overland would be that we might come
>across a polyana, open water, and then how could we proceed? And how

could

>we carry a boat with us? To carry food is another problem, we would have

to

>put together a convoy. Getting to the Pole ain't far enough!

Maybe an inflatable boat would do. One Norwegian managed to go from
the north of Russia, through the pole and then to the north of Canada
while carrying all his supplies with him. He had a couple of days
without food though.

Frode,

Even Nansen wasn't able to do that. How impressive!

And Nansen ended up eating his dogs one by one. How did this guy make it
without dogs?

I think that anybody who goes straight across gets caught up on the inner
rim and slides around on the inside- then they only think that they went "
straight " across. It would be interesting to talk to this guy about his
celestial navigation. If at any time he found himself making more lateral
progress than he expected, then his position when the phenomenon started
would be significant. And at what point did he hit the ice ridges, and at
what point did the ice smoothen out?

Does this individual have a web site? The info that he could volunteer could
be as significant as some of the info that we have from the classic Arctic
explorers with regard to the location of the opening.

>Skills that I could learn here are ballooning, parachuting and
>flying/piloting.
>
>Would a balloon of helium, or hot air, be picked up on radar? By HAARP
>installations?

Do you know of any successful balloon trips to the pole?

I think that I heard of one around the beginning of the year that didn't
quite make it. There was an open cockpit attempt by aircraft, too. You can
be sure that if you run your mouth to the media, that you won't make it.

>During the summer, the air flows into the orifice. During the winter, it
>flows out. Could we take off in a balloon from Northern Scandanavia and

hope

>to enter within a week?

Are you sure about this "breathing" pattern? Maybe a week would do,
we should check out balloon flights to the bole to learn more.

Well, this breathing pattern is why we have summer and winter. During the
winter, the air flows out of the Northern orifice and concentrically pushed
the cold air further down.

Olaf Jansen reported that his father found it so hard to beat against the
inward air currents, that he decided to turn around and exit through the
Southern orifice, with the wind behind him.

I do think it is time to start talking about all this, though, and figure
out how it could be accomplished, and how we should deal with the watchful
eyes of the NWO.

Dean/Dharmapada

Hey All,

Click on the forth picture down, the one with a river running through the
ice. How can there be running water so very, very close to the North pole in
April? This, to me, is evidence of currents flowing out of a warmer hollow
portion.

http://www.air-ventures.com/northpole/expedition.html

I think that, without a Hollow Earth Theory and an opening very close by, it
is very difficult to explain running water.

Notice that they were put in place very close by to the pole, and only
allowed to fly a few miles over it. It is not as if they ranged all over the
area.

Dean/

[allplanets-hollow] Re: The trip
in

Frode,

Another consideration about going in overland would be that
we might come

across a polyana, open water, and then how could we proceed?
And how

could

we carry a boat with us? To carry food is another problem,
we would have

to

put together a convoy. Getting to the Pole ain't far
enough!

Maybe an inflatable boat would do. One Norwegian managed to go
from

the north of Russia, through the pole and then to the north of
Canada

while carrying all his supplies with him. He had a couple of
days

without food though.

Frode,

Even Nansen wasn't able to do that. How impressive!

And Nansen ended up eating his dogs one by one. How did this guy make
it

without dogs?

Torry Larsen and Rune Gjeldnes was two well trained marines.
Nansen did not have that training I guess.

http://www.tv2.no/ao2000/

http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/20000217/adventure_arctic.html

I think that anybody who goes straight across gets caught up on the
inner

rim and slides around on the inside- then they only think that they
went "

straight " across. It would be interesting to talk to this guy
about his

celestial navigation. If at any time he found himself making
more lateral

progress than he expected, then his position when the phenomenon
started

would be significant. And at what point did he hit the ice ridges,
and at

what point did the ice smoothen out?

Does this individual have a web site? The info that he could
volunteer could

be as significant as some of the info that we have from the classic
Arctic

explorers with regard to the location of the opening.

Did not find any personal web-pages. But I guess that it would
not be difficult to find them. The problem might be that this
expedition involves the Norwegian and the American
military

Skills that I could learn here are ballooning, parachuting
and

flying/piloting.

Would a balloon of helium, or hot air, be picked up on
radar? By HAARP

installations?

Do you know of any successful balloon trips to the pole?

I think that I heard of one around the beginning of the year that
didn't

quite make it. There was an open cockpit attempt by aircraft, too.
You can

be sure that if you run your mouth to the media, that you won't make
it.

I think you are right there.

During the summer, the air flows into the orifice. During
the winter, it

flows out. Could we take off in a balloon from Northern
Scandanavia and

hope

to enter within a week?

Are you sure about this "breathing" pattern? Maybe a
week would do,

we should check out balloon flights to the bole to learn
more.

Well, this breathing pattern is why we have summer and winter. During
the

winter, the air flows out of the Northern orifice and concentrically
pushed
the cold air further down.

Olaf Jansen reported that his father found it so hard to beat against
the

inward air currents, that he decided to turn around and exit through
the

Southern orifice, with the wind behind him.

I do think it is time to start talking about all this, though, and
figure

out how it could be accomplished, and how we should deal with the
watchful

eyes of the NWO.

Yes! What should we do about them? :slight_smile:

Frode

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Frode,

If they had veered a little bit towards the Bering Strait, they might have seen the same things that Macmillan saw, i.e., the mountains, the land mass.

Nice map.

Dean

> Maybe an inflatable boat would do. One Norwegian managed to go from
> the north of Russia, through the pole and then to the north of Canada
> while carrying all his supplies with him. He had a couple of days

without food though.

Torry Larsen and Rune Gjeldnes were two well trained marines. Nansen did not have that training I guess.

http://www.tv2.no/ao2000/

http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/20000217/adventure_arctic.html

I think that anybody who goes straight across gets caught up on the inner
rim and slides around on the inside- then they only think that they went "
straight " across. It would be interesting to talk to this guy about his
celestial navigation. If  at any time he found himself making more lateral
progress than he expected, then his position when the phenomenon started
would be significant. And at what point did he hit the ice ridges, and at
what point did the ice smoothen out?

Does this individual have a web site? The info that he could volunteer could
be as significant as some of the info that we have from the classic Arctic
explorers with regard to the location of the opening.

Did not find any personal web-pages. But I guess that it would not be difficult to find them. The problem might be that this expedition involves the Norwegian and the American military

Hey All,

Click on the forth picture down, the one with a river running through the
ice. How can there be running water so very, very close to the North pole in
April? This, to me, is evidence of currents flowing out of a warmer hollow
portion.

http://www.air-ventures.com/northpole/expedition.html

Are you sure that this are rivers and not just cracks?

Frode

···

I think that, without a Hollow Earth Theory and an opening very close by, it
is very difficult to explain running water.

Notice that they were put in place very close by to the pole, and only
allowed to fly a few miles over it. It is not as if they ranged all over the
area.

Dean/

Just cracks, false alarm. Somebody else mentioned that to me, too.

Dean

···

----- Original Message -----
From: Frode <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: The trip in

>Hey All,
>
>Click on the forth picture down, the one with a river running through the
>ice. How can there be running water so very, very close to the North pole

in

>April? This, to me, is evidence of currents flowing out of a warmer

hollow

>portion.
>
>http://www.air-ventures.com/northpole/expedition.html

Are you sure that this are rivers and not just cracks?

Frode

>
>
>I think that, without a Hollow Earth Theory and an opening very close by,

it

>is very difficult to explain running water.
>
>Notice that they were put in place very close by to the pole, and only
>allowed to fly a few miles over it. It is not as if they ranged all over

the

>area.
>
>Dean/
>

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