Hearing on the TV (again) tonight that the Annunaki were giant extra-terrestrials from outer-space who abducted Enoch and took him to the stars, I decided to check what Enoch actually said.
Before the flood he was chosen by the angels, (watchers) Uriel, Michael, Gabriel and Raphael to intercede between them and Azazel's band of fallen angels who had interbred with pleasing woman and so corrupted the spirit with flesh. Enoch told them they were an accursed bunch and banned from Heaven.
Enoch was taken INTO heaven and shown the tablets (of Destiny) containing all knowledge of God's plan. His grandson Noah and his son's were to be spared from the deluge, sent to wipe-out the corruption and unrighteousness of the bad watchers (who did more than watch) and their evil offspring.
And I went from thence to the middle of the earth, and I saw a blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding and blooming [of a dismembered tree]. And there I saw a holy mountain, and underneath the mountain to the east there was a stream and it flowed towards the south. (He spoke of four streams, and the four pillars which support the heavens)
And all the ravines were deep rand narrow, (being formed) of hard rock, and trees were not planted upon them. And I marveled at the rocks, and I marveled at the ravine, yea, I marveled very much.
And from thence I went towards the west to the ends of the earth, and saw there three portals of the heaven open such as I had seen in the east, the same number of portals, and the same number of outlets. And at the ends of the earth I saw twelve portals open to all the quarters (of the heaven), from which the winds go forth and blow over the earth. Three of them are open on the face (i.e. the east) of the heavens, and three in the west, and three on the right (i.e. the south) of the heaven, and three on the left (i.e. the north).
The entire book of Enoch recounts his experience in paradise, the Hollow Earth, not on some distant planet. Neither was he abducted by aliens, he spoke with the Holy Great One. Hazel.
Before the flood he was chosen by the angels, (watchers)
Uriel, Michael, Gabriel and Raphael to intercede between them
and Azazel's band of fallen angels who had interbred with
pleasing woman and so corrupted the spirit with flesh. Enoch
told them they were an accursed bunch and banned from
Heaven.
Hazel, you should have stuck with us on fantasticreality. The
Anunnaki / Nefilim and their hybrid offspring, according to
pseudipigraphal books of Enoch and Jasher, were banished or
imprisoned in CAVERNS beneath the Earth....Which ties directly
into a great many other things. We've discussed and posted the
various excerpts there, and related traditions, at length.
Enoch was taken INTO heaven and shown the tablets (of
Destiny) containing all knowledge of God's plan. His grandson
Noah and his son's were to be spared from the deluge, sent to
wipe-out the corruption and unrighteousness of the bad
watchers (who did more than watch) and their evil offspring.
And I went from thence to the middle of the earth, and I saw a
blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding
and blooming [of a dismembered tree]. And there I saw a holy
mountain, and underneath the mountain to the east there was a
stream and it flowed towards the south. (He spoke of four
streams, and the four pillars which support the heavens)
And all the ravines were deep rand narrow, (being formed) of
hard rock, and trees were not planted upon them. And I marveled
at the rocks, and I marveled at the ravine, yea, I marveled very
much.
From Echoes of The World Cauldron, in CCCC:
"In the Apocryphal Book of Enoch, Chapter XL, Verse 9, we find:
"And I measured out the whole earth, its mountains, and all hills,
fields, trees, stones, rivers, all existing things I wrote down, the
height from earth to the seventh heaven, and downwards to the
very lowest hell, and the judgment-place, and the VERY GREAT,
OPEN, AND WEEPING HELL."
"The Book of Enoch relates the plight of the one who has been
cast out and down, in Chapter XXIX, verse 4:
"And I threw him out from the height with his angels,
and he was flying in the air continually above THE
BOTTOMLESS.
"And earlier, in Chapter IX, verse 1, we have an actual
geographic location as well as a description:
"And those two men (angels) led me up on to the NORTHERN
SIDE, and showed me there a very terrible place, and there were
all manner of tortures in that place: cruel darkness and
unillumined gloom, and there is no light there, but murky fire
constantly flameth aloft, and there is a fiery river coming forth,
and that whole place is everywhere fire, and everywhere there is
frost and ice, thirst and shivering, while the bonds are very cruel,
and the angels fearful and merciless, bearing angry weapons,
merciless torture, and I said:
"Woe, woe, how very terrible is this place."
"Here is the Biblical Sheol/Hell, as well as the tortures, magma
rivers and ice rivers of Niflheim and Tartarus, and an actual
description of the northern entrance to the underworld realm.
These similarities are not superficial, but speak of a common
link between all these traditions.
"The Hebrew Apocrypha also contain a detailed account of the
misdeeds and trial of the NEFILIM, the "fallen angels" who
interbred with human women, and were therefore incarcerated in
caverns and prisons beneath the surface of the Earth; here is a
strong similarity to the word for the Norse underworld of
NIFLHEIM, which perhaps has it's roots in an even deeper
antiquity than the Scandinavians themselves knew. Perhaps it is
a reference to the subterranean abode, or the prison, of the
Nefilim ("Those who fell from the heavens")..... "
···
-------
A sphere with a hole at top and bottom could very well be called
"bottomless," but the late-coming, lusting Nefilim are in the
cavern worlds, while an earlier rebellious group, perhaps in
disk-like, "light-bringing" (Lucifer, of course, meaning
"light-bringer") ships, "circles endlessly" above "the
bottomless...."
Mike, The offspring of the fallen watchers and earth-women were giants. The
Bible says the 409,000 giants were wiped out in the flood. Azazel and his
rebellious angels were chained to caverns, (like Loki, who killed Balder the
Good) as their punishment. When Loki escapes to the Land of the Frost
Giants, it's the end of the World! Tartarus, is a damnable place for
loosers. But I'll read s'more, scriptures. BTW, I could've quote most of
Enoch's book for references to H.E. Hazel.
···
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--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Hazel McKinlay"
> Before the flood he was chosen by the angels, (watchers)
Uriel, Michael, Gabriel and Raphael to intercede between them
and Azazel's band of fallen angels who had interbred with
pleasing woman and so corrupted the spirit with flesh. Enoch
told them they were an accursed bunch and banned from
Heaven.
>
Hazel, you should have stuck with us on fantasticreality. The
Anunnaki / Nefilim and their hybrid offspring, according to
pseudipigraphal books of Enoch and Jasher, were banished or
imprisoned in CAVERNS beneath the Earth....Which ties directly
into a great many other things. We've discussed and posted the
various excerpts there, and related traditions, at length.
> Enoch was taken INTO heaven and shown the tablets (of
Destiny) containing all knowledge of God's plan. His grandson
Noah and his son's were to be spared from the deluge, sent to
wipe-out the corruption and unrighteousness of the bad
watchers (who did more than watch) and their evil offspring.
>
> And I went from thence to the middle of the earth, and I saw a
blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding
and blooming [of a dismembered tree]. And there I saw a holy
mountain, and underneath the mountain to the east there was a
stream and it flowed towards the south. (He spoke of four
streams, and the four pillars which support the heavens)
>
> And all the ravines were deep rand narrow, (being formed) of
hard rock, and trees were not planted upon them. And I marveled
at the rocks, and I marveled at the ravine, yea, I marveled very
much.
>
From Echoes of The World Cauldron, in CCCC:
"In the Apocryphal Book of Enoch, Chapter XL, Verse 9, we find:
"And I measured out the whole earth, its mountains, and all hills,
fields, trees, stones, rivers, all existing things I wrote down, the
height from earth to the seventh heaven, and downwards to the
very lowest hell, and the judgment-place, and the VERY GREAT,
OPEN, AND WEEPING HELL."
"The Book of Enoch relates the plight of the one who has been
cast out and down, in Chapter XXIX, verse 4:
"And I threw him out from the height with his angels,
and he was flying in the air continually above THE
BOTTOMLESS.
"And earlier, in Chapter IX, verse 1, we have an actual
geographic location as well as a description:
"And those two men (angels) led me up on to the NORTHERN
SIDE, and showed me there a very terrible place, and there were
all manner of tortures in that place: cruel darkness and
unillumined gloom, and there is no light there, but murky fire
constantly flameth aloft, and there is a fiery river coming forth,
and that whole place is everywhere fire, and everywhere there is
frost and ice, thirst and shivering, while the bonds are very cruel,
and the angels fearful and merciless, bearing angry weapons,
merciless torture, and I said:
"Woe, woe, how very terrible is this place."
"Here is the Biblical Sheol/Hell, as well as the tortures, magma
rivers and ice rivers of Niflheim and Tartarus, and an actual
description of the northern entrance to the underworld realm.
These similarities are not superficial, but speak of a common
link between all these traditions.
"The Hebrew Apocrypha also contain a detailed account of the
misdeeds and trial of the NEFILIM, the "fallen angels" who
interbred with human women, and were therefore incarcerated in
caverns and prisons beneath the surface of the Earth; here is a
strong similarity to the word for the Norse underworld of
NIFLHEIM, which perhaps has it's roots in an even deeper
antiquity than the Scandinavians themselves knew. Perhaps it is
a reference to the subterranean abode, or the prison, of the
Nefilim ("Those who fell from the heavens")..... "
-------
A sphere with a hole at top and bottom could very well be called
"bottomless," but the late-coming, lusting Nefilim are in the
cavern worlds, while an earlier rebellious group, perhaps in
disk-like, "light-bringing" (Lucifer, of course, meaning
"light-bringer") ships, "circles endlessly" above "the
bottomless...."
Good for you Hazel, with your email
below! About time some of these Sitchin advocates got
corrected!
-Dick Fojut
···
Hearing on the TV (again) tonight that
the Annunaki were giant extra-terrestrials from
outer-space who abducted Enoch and took him to the stars, I
decided to check what Enoch actually said.
Before the flood he was chosen by
the angels, (watchers) Uriel, Michael, Gabriel and Raphael to
intercede between them and Azazel's band of fallen angels who had
interbred with pleasing woman and so corrupted the spirit with flesh.
Enoch told them they were an accursed bunch and banned from
Heaven.
Enoch was taken INTO heaven and shown
the tablets (of Destiny) containing all knowledge of God's
plan. His grandson Noah and his son's were to be spared
from the deluge, sent to wipe-out the corruption and unrighteousness
of the bad watchers (who did more than watch) and their evil
offspring.
And I went from thence to the middle
of the earth, and I saw a blessed place in which there were trees
with branches abiding and blooming [of a dismembered tree]. And there
I saw a holy mountain, and underneath the mountain to the east there
was a stream and it flowed towards the south. (He spoke of four
streams, and the four pillars which support the heavens)
And all the ravines were deep rand
narrow, (being formed) of hard rock, and trees were not planted upon
them. And I marveled at the rocks, and I marveled at the ravine, yea,
I marveled very much.
And from thence I went towards the west
to the ends of the earth, and saw there three portals of the heaven
open such as I had seen in the east, the same number of portals, and
the same number of outlets. And at the ends of the earth I saw twelve
portals open to all the quarters (of the heaven), from which the
winds go forth and blow over the earth. Three of them are open on the
face (i.e. the east) of the heavens, and three in the west, and three
on the right (i.e. the south) of the heaven, and three on the left
(i.e. the north).
The entire book of Enoch recounts his
experience in paradise, the Hollow Earth, not on some distant planet.
Neither was he abducted by aliens, he spoke with the Holy Great
One. Hazel.
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Book of Enoch
Dick, The Annunaki is just another collective name for the 'gods' of the underworld (watchers) whose father was Anu (Zeus equivalent) but some of them descended to an earthly material existence and admixed with men and women, lowering their vibration, resulting in them being confined (chained) to an Earthly existence (hell!) And thanks to them, the fallen ones, we're all susceptible to evil, until we ascend again, like others, Muhammed, Enoch etc. During the deluge the Annunaki left for the remote heaven's of Anu: "like migrating birds" (birds migrating northwards, enter the polar opening.) That's how I percieve it. The Discovery Channel was only too happy to imply the Annunaki were scary interfering alien giants returning. Hazel
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Book of Enoch
Good for you Hazel, with your email below! About time some of these Sitchin advocates got corrected!
-Dick Fojut
Hearing on the TV (again) tonight that the Annunaki were giant extra-terrestrials from outer-space who abducted Enoch and took him to the stars, I decided to check what Enoch actually said.
Before the flood he was chosen by the angels, (watchers) Uriel, Michael, Gabriel and Raphael to intercede between them and Azazel's band of fallen angels who had interbred with pleasing woman and so corrupted the spirit with flesh. Enoch told them they were an accursed bunch and banned from Heaven.
Enoch was taken INTO heaven and shown the tablets (of Destiny) containing all knowledge of God's plan. His grandson Noah and his son's were to be spared from the deluge, sent to wipe-out the corruption and unrighteousness of the bad watchers (who did more than watch) and their evil offspring.
And I went from thence to the ** middle of the earth** , and I saw a blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding and blooming [of a dismembered tree]. And there I saw a holy mountain, and underneath the mountain to the east there was a stream and it flowed towards the south. (He spoke of four streams, and the four pillars which support the heavens)
And all the ravines were deep rand narrow, (being formed) of hard rock, and trees were not planted upon them. And I marveled at the rocks, and I marveled at the ravine, yea, I marveled very much.
And from thence I went towards the west to the ends of the earth, and saw there three portals of the heaven open such as I had seen in the east, the same number of portals, and the same number of outlets. And at the ends of the earth I saw twelve portals open to all the quarters (of the heaven), from which the winds go forth and blow over the earth. Three of them are open on the face (i.e. the east) of the heavens, and three in the west, and three on the right (i.e. the south) of the heaven, and three on the left (i.e. the north).
The entire book of Enoch recounts his experience in paradise, the Hollow Earth, not on some distant planet. Neither was he abducted by aliens, he spoke with the Holy Great One. Hazel.
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Mike, I couldn't agree more, but while some caverns are occupied by 'Greys'
and some by NWO (even worse) and some by Dean's slimey-reptile-man from
Etidorhpa, the Hollow Earth domain is separate. But I think there are also
enchanted places like Telos, inside Mt.Shasta. Gosh, it's a crowded old
(hollow) planet! Hazel.
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----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: The Book of Enoch
--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Hazel McKinlay"
<lunaticfringe@b...> wrote:
> Mike, The offspring of the fallen watchers and earth-women
were giants. The
> Bible says the 409,000 giants were wiped out in the flood.
Azazel and his
> rebellious angels were chained to caverns, (like Loki, who
killed Balder the
> Good) as their punishment. When Loki escapes to the Land of
the Frost
> Giants, it's the end of the World! Tartarus, is a damnable place
for
> loosers. But I'll read s'more, scriptures. BTW, I could've quote
most of
> Enoch's book for references to H.E. Hazel.
Hazel,
I think you are definitely on the right track.
Just keep in mind that "cavern worlds" and the hollow earth are
two distinctly different things, although they may be interrelated in
some ways!
"According to the tales of the Midewiwin, the first council of
the Mide spirits was held at the Center
of the Earth and it was called
by the upper air spirits to ask the help of the under earth spirits in
saving a strange, unfurred animal named mankind.
"Otter and Bear were chosen to push the first Tree of Life pole
(Grandmother Cedar) from the Earth's Center through the surface,
forming the first channel of communications between Above and
Below." (...)
Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Book of Enoch
I believe there are some historical discrepancies about who, or what, Enoch actually was/is? He apparently constructed an underground TEMPLE--he is considered an Initiator, but also epitomizes the Sun.
See also the bottom on Archangels---and, if a correct theory, than I have wondered if they are the light seen in the HE--just didn't want to broach the subject, but since Hazel has introduced Angels--I will comment on it now. Archangels are also mentioned in various writings as Sun Dwellers--and not of human form, but spheres of light.
From what I have read--and I could be entirely wrong here--is that Enoch did not visit a HE, but built an underground temple of 9 vaults. I would not think this to be the same as a HE that we are referring to. I do think Enoch was a Holy Person and saw the Holy One--but when he talks of the (middle of the earth) I do not think is means the center of the earth as in underground, but above in what would have been deemed the middle--like he is standing in the middle of a park. Also, a dismembered tree is probably is reference to life--all else point to the top of the earth, at least for me. As far as the vortexes are concerned, I do believe that to be true. Also, not disputing paradise.
.
So---from other views, and who is to say who is right?: So much is in the translation!
In several early Masonic manuscripts--for example, the Harlein, Sloane, Lansdowne, and Edinburgh--Kilwinning---it is stated that the craft of initiated builders existed before the Deluge, and that its members were employed in the building of the Tower of Babel. A Masonic Constitutiondated 1701 gives the following naive
account of the origin of the sciences, arts, and crafts from which the major part of the Masonic symbolism is derived:
"How this worthy Science was first begun, I shall Tell. Before Noah's flood, there was a man called Lameck as it is written in the 4 Chap. of Gen.: and this Lameck had two Wives. The one was called Adah, and the other Zillah; by the e first wife, Adah he got two Sons, the one called Jaball and the other Juball, and by the other wife Zillah he got a Son and Daughter, and the four children found the beginning of all Crafts in the world. This Jaball was the elder Son, and he found the Craft of Geometrie, and he parted the flocks, as of Sheep and Lambs in the fields, and first wrought Houses of Stone and Tree, as it is noted in the Chap., and his Brother Juball found the craft of Musick, of Songs, Organs, and Harp. The Third Brother [Tubal-cain] found out Smith's craft to work Iron and steel, and their sister Naamah found out the art of Weaving. These children did not know God would take Vengeance for Sinne, either by fire or water, wherefore they wrote these Sciences which they had found in Two Pillars of stone, that might be found after the Flood. The one stone was called Marbell--cannot burn with Fire, and the of the was called Laturus (brass?) that cannot drown in Water." The author of this Constitution thereupon declares that one of the pillars was later discovered by Hermes, who communicated to mankind the secrets thereon inscribed.
In hisAntiquities of the Jews, Josephus writes that Adam had forewarned his descendants that sinful humanity would be destroyed by a deluge. In order to preserve their science and philosophy, the children of Seth therefore raised two pillars, one of brick, the other of stone, on which were inscribed the keys to their knowledge. The Patriarch Enoch-----whose name means the Initiator--is evidently a personification of the sun, since he lived 365 days. He also constructed an underground temple consisting of nine vaults, one beneath the other, placing in the deepest vault a triangular tablet of gold bearing upon it the absolute and ineffable Name of Deity. According to some accounts, Enoch made two golden *deltas. * The larger he placed upon the white cubicle altar in the lowest vault and the smaller he gave into the keeping of his son, Methusalah, who did the actual construction according to the pattern revealed to his father by the Most High. In the form and arrangement of these vaults Enoch epitomized the nine spheres of the ancients Mysteries and the nine sacred strata of the earth though which an initiate must pass to reach the flaming Spirit dwelling in its central core.
According to Freemasonic symbolism, Enoch, fearing that all knowledge of the sacred Mysteries would be lost as the time of the Deluge, erected the two columns mentioned. Upon the metal column in appropriate allegorical symbols he engraved the secret teaching and upon the marble column placed an inscription stating that a short distance away a priceless treasure would be discovered in a subterranean vault. After having thus faithfully completed his labors, Enoch was translated from the brow of Mount Moriah. In time the location of the secret vault was lost, but after the lapse of ages there came another builder--an initiate after the order of Enoch--and he, while laying the foundations for another temple to the Great Architect of the Universe, discovered the long-lost vaults and the secrets contained within.
So, by what I can gather --"Enoch"-- actually means taken by to preserve knowledge of sacred Mysteries.
The Celestial Inhabitants of the Sun
On Archangels, angels, etc.: The Rosicrucians and the Illuminati, describing the angels, archangels, and other celestial creatures, sdeclared that they resembled small suns, being centers of radiant energy surrounded by streamers of Vrilic force. From these outpouring streamers of force is derived the popular belief that angels have wings. These wings are corona-like fans of light, by means of which the celestial creatures propel themselves through the subtle essences of superphysical worlds.
True mystics are unanimous in their denial of the theory that the angels and archangels are human in form, as so often pictured. A human figure would be utterly useless in the ethereal substances through which the manifest. Science has long debated the probability of the other planets being inhabited. Objections to the idea are based upon the argument that creatures with human organisms could not possibly exist in these environments of Mars, Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune. This argument fails to take into account Nature's universal law of adjustment to environment. The ancients asserted that life originated from the sun, and that everything when bathed in the light of the solar orb was capable of absorbing the solar life elements and later radiating them as flora and fauna. One philosophical concept regards the sun as a parent and the planets as embryos still connected to the solar body by means of ethereal umbilical cords which served as channels to convey life and nourishment to the planets.
Some secret orders that taught that the sun was inhabited by a race of creatures with bodies composed of a radiant, spiritual ether not unlike in its consistency the actual glowing ball of the sun itself: The solar heat had no harmful effect upon them, because their organisms were sufficiently refined and sensitized to harmonize with the suns tremendous vibratory rate. These creatures resemble miniature suns, being a little larger that a dinner plate in size, although some of the more powerful are considerably large. Their color is golden white light of the sun, and from then emanate four streams of Vril (?). These streamers are often great length and are in constant motion. A peculiar palpitation is to be noted throughout the structure of the globe and is communicated in the form of ripples to the emanating streamers. The greatest and most luminous of these spheres is the Archangel Michael; and the entire order of solar life, which resembles him and dwell upon the sun, are called by modern Christians "the archangels" or 'the spirits of the light."
Something to ponder......Leslee
···
Hazel wrote:
Hearing on the TV (again) tonight that the Annunaki were giant extra-terrestrials from outer-space who abducted Enoch and took him to the stars, I decided to check what Enoch actually said.
Before the flood he was chosen by the angels, (watchers) Uriel, Michael, Gabriel and Raphael to intercede between them and Azazel's band of fallen angels who had interbred with pleasing woman and so corrupted the spirit with flesh. Enoch told them they were an accursed bunch and banned from Heaven.
Enoch was taken INTO heaven and shown the tablets (of Destiny) containing all knowledge of God's plan. His grandson Noah and his son's were to be spared from the deluge, sent to wipe-out the corruption and unrighteousness of the bad watchers (who did more than watch) and their evil offspring.
And I went from thence to the ** middle of the earth** , and I saw a blessed place in which there were trees with branches abiding and blooming [of a dismembered tree]. And there I saw a holy mountain, and underneath the mountain to the east there was a stream and it flowed towards the south. (He spoke of four streams, and the four pillars which support the heavens)
And all the ravines were deep rand narrow, (being formed) of hard rock, and trees were not planted upon them. And I marveled at the rocks, and I marveled at the ravine, yea, I marveled very much.
And from thence I went towards the west to the ends of the earth, and saw there three portals of the heaven open such as I had seen in the east, the same number of portals, and the same number of outlets. And at the ends of the earth I saw twelve portals open to all the quarters (of the heaven), from which the winds go forth and blow over the earth. Three of them are open on the face (i.e. the east) of the heavens, and three in the west, and three on the right (i.e. the south) of the heaven, and three on the left (i.e. the north).
The entire book of Enoch recounts his experience in paradise, the Hollow Earth, not on some distant planet. Neither was he abducted by aliens, he spoke with the Holy Great One. Hazel.
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