Suicide by fire?

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Since we were just talking about human combustion, and how rare suicide is by fire I wonder about this. Not human combustion, but a demonic attack perhaps. I knew of this man, I bought seafood from him at the local market I frequent. Although he was quiet, I never felt he was troubled, although that really doesn't mean anything. But, suicide by fire seems so painful, and the first suicidal attempt of electrocution by dropping an electrical appliance in a bath tub almost sounds as if "evil" were flying. This is completely creepy.

Leslee

Officials say Kent fire was suicide blaze -

2001-04-06
by Jeffrey M. Barker
South County Journal Reporter
KENT -- The East Hill man who died in Wednesday's apartment-building blaze committed suicide, the King County Medical Examiner's Office said after an autopsy yesterday.

  Marc Sean Premo, 23, barricaded himself in his studio apartment at the Washington Park Apartments and doused the unit with a flammable liquid, Kent police said yesterday.

  Investigators said it appeared Premo tried to electrocute himself by dropping a toaster into a full bathtub. When that failed, he set fire to his apartment about 6:30 a.m.

  Premo was burned over 70 percent of his body, yesterday's autopsy showed. He was found in the middle of his apartment. A chair was propped against his front door and a sliding glass door was covered with a bedspring and mattress, Kent firefighters said.

  Nobody else in the 19-unit building was hurt in the fire, thanks to resident Jesse Garcia, who yelled ``Fire!' and knocked on his neighbors' doors, hoping to wake them.

  The residents still weren't allowed to move back into their apartments yesterday, a fire spokesman said.

  Premo's neighbors said they didn't know him well. One of them may have been the last to see Premo alive, about 1 a.m. the day of the fire.

  When Premo was 15 years old, pleaded guilty to first-degree reckless burning and was sentenced to community service, supervision and counseling. He apparently had not been in trouble with the law since.

  Pat Pawlak, a spokesman for Kent Fire & Life Safety, said the fire was almost entirely contained to Premo's apartment. The apartment's windows blew out and allowed the fire to escape. If that had not happened, the flames may have spread to other units.
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Here is something from the new HE book by Hazel Mc Kinlay. Where is this Professor Potter:

Even more recently, a Professor Percival Potter (no relation to Harry) discovered an entrance to the inner-world in the 1960s, through the crater of an extinct volcano in the Ahaggar massif of North Africa. He described this land as being bathed permanently in an unnatural light, with areas covered in dense jungle, comprised of foliage found in each of the prehistoric periods, Cretaceous, Jurassic and Devonian, growing together. There was a Great Sea, teeming with sea-serpents and a small inland sea, which washed up onto rolling hills. Rising above that, the mountainous Peaks of Peril were the home of dangerous pterodactyls, saber-toothed tigers and woolly mammoths!

This world was known as Zanthodon, and believed by some travellers to be an oasis of the lost Atlantean Empire. The people were beautiful and unselfconscious, tall, blonde, blue-eyed Cro-Magnons, but they coexisted with Neanderthal types and an other, little known race, who were highly civilised. The common dialect spoken by all (except the grunting ape-men) was a proto-Aryan, which gave rise to Sanskrit, the root of all Indo-European languages.

Dharma/Dean

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--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:

Here is something from the new HE book by Hazel Mc Kinlay.

Where is this Professor Potter:

Even more recently, a Professor Percival Potter (no relation to

Harry) discovered an entrance to the inner-world in the 1960s,
through the crater of an extinct volcano in the Ahaggar massif of
North Africa. He described this land as being bathed
permanently in an unnatural light, with areas covered in dense
jungle, comprised of foliage found in each of the prehistoric
periods, Cretaceous, Jurassic and Devonian, growing together.
There was a Great Sea, teeming with sea-serpents and a small
inland sea, which washed up onto rolling hills. Rising above
that, the mountainous Peaks of Peril were the home of
dangerous pterodactyls, saber-toothed tigers and woolly
mammoths!

This world was known as Zanthodon, and believed by some

travellers to be an oasis of the lost Atlantean Empire. The people
were beautiful and unselfconscious, tall, blonde, blue-eyed
Cro-Magnons, but they coexisted with Neanderthal types and an
other, little known race, who were highly civilised. The common
dialect spoken by all (except the grunting ape-men) was a
proto-Aryan, which gave rise to Sanskrit, the root of all
Indo-European languages.

Ow, Dean, Ow!

This is exactly what I posted about previously:

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From: MOTTIMORPH@E...
Date: Sat Apr 7, 2001 4:41am
Subject: Re: NEW online hollow earth book

Ok, I've looked over Hazel's Hollow Earth material.

While interesting, she quotes from a number of books (not all of
them) which are purely fictional, such as the "Zanthodon" series
of hollow earth books, a poorly-written series by the late Lin
Carter. Carter willingly admitted that he based the world of
Zanthodon on Edgar Rice Burrough's "Pellucidar" or hollow earth
as an homage of sorts to Burroughs. Another of her primary
sources of "factual" information seems to be "The
Unprecedented Discovery of The Dragon Islands" by Lord
Nathaniel Parker, which is an admitted work of pure fantasy
fiction.
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Believe me, "Zanthodon" is a purely fictional construct by a writer
who is generally believed today to have been an imitator of other
writers (in this case Edgar Rice Burroughs, who wrote a series
of books set in the hollow earth as described by Symmes, called
Pellucidar; Burroughs also dotted the Africa of his Tarzan novels
with lost civilizations which had a tendency to be offshoots of
Atlantis, like the city of "Opar").

This is the type of problem I was just posting about on the other
list:

Fortean and paranormal phenomena influence literature and
creative enterprises, and it's important to recognize and identify
these influences when we find them. Otherwise, genuine
confusion arises, wherein which works of fiction are regarded as
fact. The Dr. Yeats story (I immediately did a web search on him
when I first saw his name on the allplanets-hollow list, but he
just doesn't exist) is one example of entertainment or fiction
which is somehow mistaken for fact (or perhaps intentionally
poses as fact). Quoting fiction books (or even fictional books,
like the NECRONOMICON) as fact-based source material is
another problem which can arise.

When these things happen, the end result is that the genuine
phenomena or topics at hand, along with the research into them,
are discredited in the eyes of society at large.

Fiction is of course important, too, as it seems apparent that
many writers have hidden hints of truths in their fiction in order to
get a message out, or convey a largely-unknown concept.
LLoyd's Etidorpha is one of these, as are some of the works of
H.P. Lovecraft, in my opinion; Lin Carter, on the other hand, was
NOT one of these types of writers, and in fact was something of
a hack, and there is little to nothing of Fortean value in his books.
This indicates that there are some pieces of fiction, and some
writers of fiction, who are more "fortean" than others.

We just have to be careful not to be taken in by disinformation,
whether intentional or accidental, or any genuine research will
be discredited.

--Mike

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Ok,

On this new HE book by this lady Hazel, we're dipping into fiction here-
careful, reality-check time.

DD

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> Even more recently, a Professor Percival Potter (no relation to
Harry) discovered an entrance to the inner-world in the 1960s,
through the crater of an extinct volcano in the Ahaggar massif of
North Africa. He described this land as being bathed
permanently in an unnatural light, with areas covered in dense
jungle, comprised of foliage found in each of the prehistoric
periods, Cretaceous, Jurassic and Devonian, growing together.
There was a Great Sea, teeming with sea-serpents and a small
inland sea, which washed up onto rolling hills. Rising above
that, the mountainous Peaks of Peril were the home of
dangerous pterodactyls, saber-toothed tigers and woolly
mammoths!
>
> This world was known as Zanthodon, and believed by some
travellers to be an oasis of the lost Atlantean Empire. The people
were beautiful and unselfconscious, tall, blonde, blue-eyed
Cro-Magnons, but they coexisted with Neanderthal types and an
other, little known race, who were highly civilised. The common
dialect spoken by all (except the grunting ape-men) was a
proto-Aryan, which gave rise to Sanskrit, the root of all
Indo-European languages.
>

Ow, Dean, Ow!

This is exactly what I posted about previously: