Straight-Line Theory

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO BasesDick,

I am referring to the Straight-Line Theory which was mentioned in the book The Hollow Earth by Bernard. I don't want to go and look up the quote, but it is probably what you are talking about.

There may be random movement, too, but movement in a straight North and South Line, from high latitudes towards the Pole, has no explainable rationale, and would be explained by a Polar opening ( naerby ).

Dharma/Dean

Dean...
By "Straight-line Theory" do you mean Michel's theory published in the 1960s? (Some UFOs appeared to be going in straight lines from Antarctica toward the North pole?)
To jog my memory, I just queried my wife who spent a lot of time at APRO headquarters here in Tucson decades past. She was a close friend of Coral Lorenzen (now deceased), the co-founder with her husband of APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization) During the 60s in discussions they all agreed that Michel's observances seemed to have some validity. But later years of global observations by others of RANDOMITY seemed to relegate it to just another maybe theory.
Or has MORE surfaced in recent times to add additional credence to the "Straight-line Theory?" We haven't heard of any, but may well have missed it.

  • Dick Fojut in Tucson

P.S. I really have no personal solid belief that the Germans (everybody in the military wasn't a National Socialist Party member) set up bases in Antarctica, but our Tucson friend Col. Wendelle Stevens, seems well convinced. He has probably the world's largest collection of authentic photos of UFOs. And may be the most knowledgeable researcher of UFO phenomena anywhere on the planet. Ask about him.

The government has looked on Col. Stevens as an "enemy" for decades and constantly harassed him (and a lot worse I won't relate). But his private contacts with old military friends, allowed him to collect a huge number of real photos of the many saucer craft the NAZIs designed and built before and during world war 2. They all flew. The German scientists continued improving the various models. And it is possible that SOME of the craft did damage to allied bombers near the end of the war. But they certainly don't explain all the "Foo Fighters" reported. Recently he showed many photos to a group of us and explained one model that had some attachment that appeared to put out electromagnetic pulses or something similar.. It is known that entire flights of allied bombers had their engines affected, some temporarily stopped. (If any crashed it has been hidden). It is possible, but not certain, that these German craft may have been responsible.

Some of the German craft had conventional large size cannons attached, some hanging from below. Apparently they were not used against attacking bombers. Why this technology didn't reverse the course of the war may well be that they couldn't produce enough of them in time... or a lot failed to live up to expectations. Just speculation. But if they actually did have some underground bases in the antarctic or nearby, as Col. Stevens thinks, perhaps some of them were flown there before the Russians and Americans took over the underground factories and captured many of their scientists and technicians. Again, just speculation. Anyone else have information about German bases and the craft mentioned above?

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Dean...
Acknowledged.

  • Dick
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DD,

Dr. Raymond also wrote a book titled, "From Chrishna to Christ." This is,
too, listed in the catalog by the Health Research Group. It is a fasinating
book. But, I warn all believers in Jesus as being the Christ to keep an open
mind; either way you go it will still blow your mind.

MM

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The story of the birth of Krishna is identical to the Nativity. Hazel.

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My friend JJ, who is an excellent ancient mysteries sleuth, and writes for
Farshores wrote this piece;

Was Jesus Really A Hindu God? By J.J.

Agni, the Holy Fire of Ancient Hindu religion, was "born" when Twastri, the
Divine Carpenter, the god's father, created the divine spark of new life
using a pramantha. This lance-like piece of wood was passed through a hole
in the centre of a cross formed from two pieces of wood fastened by four
nails. The god's mother, Maja [pronounced Maya], dwelt within the cross.
Emile Burnouf, in his work La Science des Religions [first published in the
1870s] wrote "In the Rigveda we find hymns of heavenly beauty in praise of
this new-born divine creature. The little child is laid upon the straw;
beside is the mystic cow, that is, the milk and butter destined as the
offering."The child was baptised on an altar with soma [purified butter],
receiving the name akta meaning "anointed" [like the Hebrew "messiah" and
the Greek "christos"]. The event was greeted with widespread rejoicing from
the Earth and Heavens [devas - angels] through hymns. The god now outshine
the rising sun and the full moon that flanked him. For, having grown "rich
in glory he sends forth his blazing flames; he shines in a cloud of smoke
which rises to heaven like a pillar, and his light unites with the light of
the heavenly orbs."[Burnouf]Agni was the King of Kings and taught the
Doctors, revealed the mysteries of life to humans, and was named Jatavedas,
"He in Whom Wisdom is In-born". In other words, Jehovah. In c.1500 Central
Asian warlike nomads, the Aryans, had invaded and settled in Northern India,
their incursion probably causing the downfall of the Indus Valley
Civilization. The Aryanâ?Ts gods included Agni and Indra, the King of the
Gods and Storm God. Their sacred texts, the Vedas, are central to Hinduism.
As the Persian Empire stretched to the Indus, they came into contact with
the Hindus. In the late 4th century BC Alexander the Great, by conquering
the Persians, pushed the boundaries of his own empire to the Indus. The
cross is an ancient universal symbol. There are many versions, the most
common being the conventional cross, the Ankh and the Tau. All were depicted
by the Ancient Egyptians and Meso-Americans, the Ankh by the former. The
Greeks, ancient Irish, Meso-Americans and Phoenicians depicted the Tau. The
cross with four nails was also widespread. Schliemann mentions that it, and
the swastika variant [a Sanskrit good luck symbol; as the Nazi version was
reversed, this meant ill fortune], appeared in ancient Hindu temples and
epics such Ramayana, on ancient Greek vases, including several Corinthian
ones he owned and "two very ancient Attic vases" owned by Professor
Kusopulos in Athens, which had been dated to about "1000 years before
Christ." It was also used by the Hittites [it was a winged disc like the
Ancient Egyptian sun symbol cneph] and Celts, especially on the latter's
stone crosses, for example at Meifod Powys, the Maen Achwfan Cross,
Whitford, Clwyd, and on Iona. The central part of the Kildalton Cross,
Islay, Strathclyde, appears to bear the Sanskrit swastika! It also appeared
in catacombs. During his excavations Schliemann discovered numerous items
bearing these symbols in the lowest "Trojan" layers. This lead him to
conclude that "The primitive Trojans...belonged to the primitive Aryan
race".1 Schliemann's dated the foundation of Troy at c.1400 BC, yet current
thinking has taken Troy II, Schliemann's Homeric Troy, back to the third
millennium BC.2 But why did this symbol have world-wide significance? The
clue lies in myths and legends concerning a common land of origin claimed by
all these peoples, which lay either in the far west or east depending on
their location. Whether it was the Atlan of the Aztecs and Mayans, the
Celtic Avalon or the ancient Hindu Attala, we know this place by the
Platonic name, Atlantis. From the air the great Royal City had the
appearance of a gigantic Celtic cross, the stem being a canal 9 km long,
stretching from the sea to the central citadel [housing the palace and
Temple of Poseidon with its sacred grove], other canals formed the
cross-arms, while the "wheels" were alternate rings of land and water. The
cross preserved the memory of this ancient homeland that vanished in a
series of cataclysms about 12,000 years ago. recounted in numerous
world-wide myths and legends, and in the Bible in Genesis and Revelations.

  1. Heinrich Schliemann, Troy and Its Remains: A narrative of Researches and
    Discoveries Made on the Site of Ilium, and in the Trojan Plain, ed. by
    Philip Smith, 1976 [first published in 1875, pg 157 2. Paul G. Bahn, Lost
    Cities, London, pg 82

JJ, Like many scholars is confusing Atlantis, with the lost Paradise, Eden,
but I know he will eventually come round to the Hollow Earth Theory. Hazel.

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Hazel,

I also am aware of the similarity, no, the identity of the story of the
birth of Christ and the story of the birth of Krishna.

HOWEVER, this subject matter gets us off topic. Some members won't feel
comfortable discussing this subject on a HE list.

It is always ok to make a side comment, but this one might keep going, so
let's be content with our comments for now.

Dharma/Dean

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Point taken Dean, Religion and Roots can be touchy subjects. Hazel.

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In whose opinion, yours? Spam-head! But I think I'll take your advice if it
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