Ephraimite,
You know, the technical progress that we on our planet's surface have made over the last 150- 200 years have made was not achieved over the lst several thousand years of human society, and even thousands of years ago there was plenty of education and organized learning, mathematics and astronomy. There was at least enough to get thge ball rolling, if you know what I mean.
I do believe that our progress has been organized, and I don't see how this could have been orchestrated by any group or organization on the face of the Earth. And UFOs from outer space couldn't have orchestrated everything that has gone on froom so far away.
So what is left ? The underground manipulation of the surface world.
Have you read Mike Mott's book on the subject? It's an unsung classic.
Dean
ephraimite wrote:
Dean,
Thanks for linking me to that. I'll try to read it when I can.
Yes, you're totally right on your other points. World leaders and the ones who have dominated our country are definitely murderous. Deep state, shadow govt., etc. are all reptilian-controlled and I think they take their orders from underground (or they take their orders from Freemasons who subsequently take their orders from underground). Here's a great exposé where a whistleblower named Kevin Shipp (a former CIA officer) exposes the deep state and shadow govt.:
Part 1: Kevin Shipp, CIA Officer Exposes the Shadow Government
Part 2: Kevin Shipp, CIA Officer, Exposes Shadow Government
part 3: CIA Officer and Whistleblower Kevin Shipp
They evidently try to kill truth-tellers and they're gunning for Trump. I fear this next election may get Trump killed because it looks like he would definitely win if the election is carried out fairly. Project Veritas exposed that the likes of Google are saying they've been gearing up to stop Trump in 2020 for the past 3 years. They actually met in a Masonic temple (at the 19:42 timestamp) to discuss how to censor Youtube. That is very significant because being in a Masonic temple means that the Masons who heard the discussion are sworn to secrecy and not allowed to disclose anything that goes on inside, as we all know from William Morgan / Etidorhpa. It could also mean that they occasionally get visits from reptilians and no one is allowed to talk about it.
Like I said in my initial response, I definitely think it all comes down to underground manipulation. Would there be any NWO without reptilian influence? I don't think so. Human beings certainly have the capacity to be evil on their own, but massively organized evil like what we're seeing today always comes from another source. And some of those sources are definitely beneath our feet in the crustal realm.
Dean , actually the technological progress of the last 150-200 years , while good in itself is well below par , when compared to human potential , especially had our civilisation adopted the right scientific paradigm (existence of the ether , electric universe etc.) . Also , I do have reservations in accepting the "perception" that this is the best progress our civilisation could have possibly achieved :))
Extraterrestrial civilisations that almost certainly do exist , are well ahead of the curve on science . Even the subterranean civilisations are probably ahead of us , because they were here on this planet long before us .
Lastly , it may not be desirable for us to always see the relationship with other civilisations , either from inside the Earth or from beyond the Earth, only from an antagonistic point of view , like in a zero sum game : we win , they lose OR we lose , they win etc.
There could be common ground or at least a possibility for both parties to learn from each other . Nobody is perfect .
Regards
deandddd wrote:
Ephraimite,
You know, the technical progress that we on our planet's surface have made over the last 150- 200 years have made was not achieved over the lst several thousand years of human society, and even thousands of years ago there was plenty of education and organized learning, mathematics and astronomy. There was at least enough to get thge ball rolling, if you know what I mean.
I do believe that our progress has been organized, and I don't see how this could have been orchestrated by any group or organization on the face of the Earth. And UFOs from outer space couldn't have orchestrated everything that has gone on froom so far away.
So what is left ? The underground manipulation of the surface world.
Have you read Mike Mott's book on the subject? It's an unsung classic.
I don't agree with you on that win-win idea between the subterranean inhabitants and the surface. The Vedic histories tell of an intrusive, aggressive and parasitic role on the part of those living underground. When we read about the abduction of Duryoghana in the Mahabharat, we can see that underworld entities were the archtects of the war that destroyed Vedic civilisation on the surface. Practically the entire warrior community, the kshatryas, were ground up.
I accept the Vedic chronologies and time frame, and I see that the contention between underworld reptoids and warm-blooded humans has been going on during yuga cycle after yuga cycle. From what I understand, the reptilian undergrounders would like to take command of the hollow earth - and will do so by the end of the kaliyuga - and would only arm us with technology is they could turn us against the hollow earthers. They could only do this if they could manipulate our surface societies, and they do.
This is one motive for diluting the white caucasian races because, from testimony such as that by Olaf Jansen, and logic, the hollow earther are of the same race os the northern Europeans, such as the Skandanavians.
If they killed Putt Putt Donald, who then would everyone blame for the horrible things the republicans do that Donald has little or nothing to do with. The reason Donald is good is because he does nothing. He is expected to carry out the terrible plans of the elite, but most of the time he is hiding or golfing.
Dean , there is merit in what you say and of course we are all speculating here in the absence of any firm evidence .
However , my two cents on this subject is , the very fact
that human civilisation on the Earth's surface has not been wiped out by the technologically superior extraterrestrial civilisations , or the ones from Earth's interior , suggests they do not see this as a zero sum game . Why ?? Probably because they are more advanced spiritually , in addition to being technologically superior .
Even our civilisation could get there someday , provided our leaders do not start playing PUBG with nukes :)) I am pretty sure , if that happens though and our civilisation beigns to pose an existential risk to planet Earth itself , some "higher power" will hit the reset/reformat button . The last time that happened , we got the "Great Flood" . This time round it could be Fire & then ice (Age) , as the scriptures of many religions seem to indicate !
I truly believe Earth is a very , very rare and special planet . It happens to be the only known planet to support life , even on it's outer surface . Earth is possibly the "bio diversity hotspot" of the galaxy or even the entire universe .
Those who believe somebody "terraformed" the Earth to give it such a unique biosphere and put us here (for some higher purpose) , would also agree , that same entity won't watch passively , if our civilastion tried to ruin everything here .
This could explain the frequent UFO sightings over Nuclear missile silos :))
Where could they be watching us from ? "The All seeing eye" , perhaps ? Maybe from our moon , which some believe is an artificial satellite...who knows ? This is all conjecture :))
Let me now take this thought one step further...secret societies have obsessed over the "eye of providence/all seeing eye/third eye" concept and the powers that be , probably got their idea of universal surveillance/keeping an eye on people at all times , from that same source...the only difference being that surveillance , almost universally , is for nefarious purposes !
Regards
sidharthabahadur wrote:
Dean , there is merit in what you say and of course
we are all speculating here in the absence of any firm
evidence .
However , my two cents on this subject is , the very fact
that human civilisation on the Earth's surface has not
been wiped out by the technologically superior
extraterrestrial civilisations , or the ones from
Earth's interior , suggests they do not see this as a
zero sum game . Why ?? Probably because they are more
advanced spiritually , in addition to being technologically
superior .
Even our civilisation could get there someday , provided our
leaders do not start playing PUBG with nukes :)) I am pretty
sure , if that happens though and our civilisation beigns to
pose an existential risk to planet Earth itself , some
"higher power" will hit the reset/reformat button
. The last time that happened , we got the "Great
Flood" . This time round it could be Fire & then
ice (Age) , as the scriptures of many religions seem to
indicate !
I truly believe Earth is a very , very rare and special
planet . It happens to be the only known planet to support
life , even on it's outer surface . Earth is possibly
the "bio diversity hotspot" of the galaxy or even
the entire universe .
Those who believe somebody "terraformed" the Earth
to give it such a unique biosphere and put us here (for some
higher purpose) , would also agree , that same entity
won't watch passively , if our civilastion tried to ruin
everything here .
This could explain the frequent UFO sightings over Nuclear
missile silos :))
Where could they be watching us from ? "The All seeing
eye" , perhaps ? Maybe from our moon , which some
believe is an artificial satellite....who knows ? This is
all conjecture :))
Sidhartha,
About this comment:
"that human civilisation on the Earth's surface has notbeen wiped out by the technologically superior
extraterrestrial civilisations , or the ones from
Earth's interior , suggests they do not see this as a
zero sum game . Why ?? Probably because they are more
advanced spiritually , in addition to being technologically
superior."
One reason I imagine that they haven't wiped us out is because there are forces opposed that either would prevent such a thing, or that would make them pay for it down the road. Such as ... the hollow earthers. When the Varginha crash occurred in Brazil, the witnesses reported that there had been a dog fight with another craft. And the crash occupants weren't Nordic or anything like that, they were weird UFO creatures. This suggests that the hollow earthers do not allow them a completely free hand on the surface. As I said "forces opposed".
And another idea I have is that we are to serve some purpose for them, the underworld creatures. They are bringing us to a point where we may battle with the hollow earthers on equal terms, as proxies. Underworld creatures can't bear the light of the Sun, they need humans to go against humans. I attribute the shepherding and technological development to such a purpose.
Remember that these reptoids and humanoid races are wired differently, they are not human. The Mothman, for example, seems to be an insect man, and you can't expect an insect man to be spiritually advanced. The natural food for many insects is the blood of warm blooded mammals. Abductions is a common activity carried out by greys and such driving UFOs, and you cant be spiritually advanced if you abduct ladies from their bedrooms at night. A common activity of UFO abductions is to extract the eggs from their ovaries. I think we all agree that the origin of the Greys is subterranean, and of other types, too.
Anyway, I think that you have written quickly and overlooked a few things.
Dean
sidharthabahadur wrote:
Dean , there is merit in what you say and of course
we are all speculating here in the absence of any firm
evidence .
However , my two cents on this subject is , the very fact
that human civilisation on the Earth's surface has not
been wiped out by the technologically superior
extraterrestrial civilisations , or the ones from
Earth's interior , suggests they do not see this as a
zero sum game . Why ?? Probably because they are more
advanced spiritually , in addition to being technologically
superior .
Even our civilisation could get there someday , provided our
leaders do not start playing PUBG with nukes :)) I am pretty
sure , if that happens though and our civilisation beigns to
pose an existential risk to planet Earth itself , some
"higher power" will hit the reset/reformat button
. The last time that happened , we got the "Great
Flood" . This time round it could be Fire & then
ice (Age) , as the scriptures of many religions seem to
indicate !
I truly believe Earth is a very , very rare and special
planet . It happens to be the only known planet to support
life , even on it's outer surface . Earth is possibly
the "bio diversity hotspot" of the galaxy or even
the entire universe .
Those who believe somebody "terraformed" the Earth
to give it such a unique biosphere and put us here (for some
higher purpose) , would also agree , that same entity
won't watch passively , if our civilastion tried to ruin
everything here .
This could explain the frequent UFO sightings over Nuclear
missile silos :))
Where could they be watching us from ? "The All seeing
eye" , perhaps ? Maybe from our moon , which some
believe is an artificial satellite....who knows ? This is
all conjecture :))
Dean , first let me reiterate , we can only speculate on such a topic , in the absence of any solid evidence .
There is broad agreement though , that UFOs have been visiting Earth for tens of thousands of years...so if these "UFO people" whoever they are (an open question ??) , have not YET carried out any invasion/attack on the human civilisation on the surface , there is a good chance , they just don't have any such intentions towards us and are only benign "observers" .
Why do I say "wayward species" ?? Well , within the last 100 years alone , our own species killed 55 million of their own kind in WW II alone , maybe another 20 million in WW I perhaps...it was also our own species that obliterated many fellow humans' native cultures from the face of this planet.
If you contrast such "extreme (primate type , territorial/primitive/impulsive) behaviour" with these UFO people , whoever they are , I would say , by any yardstick , they have exercised exemplary restraint with us :))
As for the much hyped stories of "alien abduction" , which do actually occur at times (NO denying that) , such incidents are no different than human researchers who go to Antarctica , then randomly cull out a few penguins for study purposes , extract some tissue samples from them , maybe tag them with a radio collar or insert a miniature tracking device in their flesh and finally release those penguins back into the wild . All this while , the rest of the penguins wouldn't even have noticed that something "odd" happened . Also , no real harm got done to the overall penguin species as such , by such isolated research actions .
As for the spiritual aspect , if you believe in the soul and rebirth , then the same soul could be born as different species in different lifetimes , so a mothman may look odd to us , but we humans also look weird to them . So , there is no monopoly on spiritual growth associated with any particular species on any particular planet of this universe . At least that's the concept followed in Hinduism and Buddhism...not sure how exactly this is viewed in the Abrahamic faiths .
Thus , it would be arrogant to believe that only we humans are capable of spirituality when God (The Supreme Being) has created such a vast universe and possibly so many other species of sentient beings in this cosmos...
Regards
On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 07:08:36 AM
GMT-3, sidhartha bahadur [email protected]
This is the whole idea behind the underground manipulation of the surface world. Testimony has told that UFO abductees are given agendas to carry out, European folklore tells of agendas being delegated to surface world lackeys, and even the acnient Mahabharat narration of The Abduction of Duryodhana tells of underground, demoniac entities hypnotizing a king of the surface world in order to carry out regime change and a world war on the surface.
The narration even provides us with one of the few descriptions that we have of what we call "demoniac" creatures.
We did kill of 55 million of our own kind during WWII, but who was behind Roosevelt's actions leading up to WWII? The petroleum sanctions against Japan practically obligated the country to make a dramatic attack so that the sea lanes to Phillippine petroleum would not be denied to it. Who is behing the Bush family? All we hear about is their Illuminati worship of demoniac creatures such as Baphomet (Aja Eka Pad).
To all, I'll say that it took a while for the theme of underground manipulation of the surface world to sink into my noggin, MIchael Mott's book Caverns, Cauldrons and Concealed Creatures is a classic on the subject, full on information and good perspective. I invite you all to buy it. We can't just inform ourselves from Youtube clips, we have to read a few books, too.
FWIW, and as we've discussed before, the odds are that UFOs are not
(mostly) extraterrestrials, but rather intraterrestrials. Also, I believe
there's a very good chance that the reason we haven't been attacked or
further manipulated/engineered, etc. (openly) is due to the protection of
the intraterrestrials.
As per Ephraimite's previous remarks about Derinkuyu and the other
underground cities, it would seem as though there was indeed a war
previously "in heaven" wherein the inhabitants needed to seek underground
refuge. Were these beings who built and lived in these underground surface
level cities humans or reptilians? I don't know, however there does seem to
be a lot of evidence pointing to very powerful destructive forces at work
on the planet's surface that are energy based (see the specific "Electric
Universe Theory" videos and research; see also Dean's previous remarks
regarding the Moon and so called, but unlikely, impact craters).
Catastrophism/catastrophic theory (which fits much better than current
ideologies of glacial formation, etc.) is not exclusive of mass destruction
via god-class beings.
It also seems as though the human "races" appeared in discrete packets, so
to speak, and this seems to lead to the idea that engineering and some kind
of "release" events occurred. This subject is considered taboo, but it's
pretty clear if you look into the level of genetic engineering and
refinement that went into each stage of these racial-packets. This is, of
course, not a discussion about racial superiority but a scientific
consideration based on facts, genetic markers and the timeline of this
planet.
So I think these thoughts are important considerations in this topic as I
do not believe chance is at work. Neither do I believe there are benign
observers so to speak. I don't know if there has ever been such a being as
one who is entirely not involved - even the writers of Star Trek have an
impossible time of making this happen in a sterile test tube environment!
Ultimately anyone is going to be involved unless someone stops involvement
due to some kind of superiority/advantage.
Maybe I'm wrong, but logic and real-world examples point otherwise.
Sidhartha,
About this
comment:
"that
human civilisation on the Earth's surface has
notbeen wiped out by the technologically
superior
extraterrestrial civilisations , or the ones
from
Earth's interior , suggests they do not see
this as a
zero sum game . Why ?? Probably because they
are more
advanced spiritually , in addition to being
technologically
superior."
One reason I imagine that
they haven't wiped us out is because there are forces
opposed that either would prevent such a thing, or that
would make them pay for it down the road. Such as ... the
hollow earthers. When the Varginha crash occurred in Brazil,
the witnesses reported that there had been a dog fight with
another craft. And the crash occupants weren't Nordic or
anything like that, they were weird UFO creatures. This
suggests that the hollow earthers do not allow them a
completely free hand on the surface. As I said
"forces opposed".
And another idea I have is
that we are to serve some purpose for them, the underworld
creatures. They are bringing us to a point where we may
battle with the hollow earthers on equal terms, as proxies.
Underworld creatures can't bear the light of the Sun,
they need humans to go against humans. I attribute the
shepherding and technological development to such a
purpose.
Remember that these reptoids
and humanoid races are wired differently, they are not
human. The Mothman, for example, seems to be an insect man,
and you can't expect an insect man to be spiritually
advanced. The natural food for many insects is the blood of
warm blooded mammals. Abductions is a common activity
carried out by greys and such driving UFOs, and you cant be
spiritually advanced if you abduct ladies from their
bedrooms at night. A common activity of UFO abductions is to
extract the eggs from their ovaries. I think we all agree
that the origin of the Greys is subterranean, and of other
types, too.
Anyway, I think that you have
written quickly and overlooked a few
things.
Dean
On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 07:08:36 AM
GMT-3, sidhartha bahadur [email protected]
Soretna , I guess nobody can definitively describe the "occupants of UFOs" as Extraterrestrials , Hollow Earthers , or Intraterrestrials (from the Cavern Worlds) . The truth is probably a mixture of all three , but who knows for sure ?
If we look at mythology though , these "sky people" or "sky Gods" as they have been variously described in ancient cultures across the globe , are invariably depicted as benign "observers" or as "watchers" - if we take the Christian Mythos itself .
Specific to the Book of Enoch , which is an apocryphal text (outside the "standard" Bible) , again we see the "Watchers" as benign observers .
Native American cultures , the African tribal cultures , Hindu and Buddhist culture (Deva mythos) , have invariably described the "Sky Gods" as helpful to mankind , wherein they taught all the known sciences and arts to primitive humans , even language itself . In some cases , even the creation myths are attributed to these "sky gods" , who are credited with creating mankind itself .
By and large , I have personally not come across any mythology that describes a full-fledged invasion by the "sky people" or them attacking human civilisation and causing a massacre etc. I certainly do not claim to know ALL the mythologies in detail , so would request any member of this group if they could please share any mythological reference that directly implicates the "sky people" in any large scale invasion/attack on human civilisation .
Having said that , mythology does describe conflicts such as the Deva - Asura war in the Vedas , the Titans vs Olympians in Greek texts and the Aesir vs Vanir in Norse mythology . However, in each of these three legends , the war is happening between two powerful (superhuman) groups , not with mankind itself . In fact , humans are just shown as being passive observes to such conflicts .
**On the other hand , throughout human history , we have enough and more accounts of one nation destroying another , several genocides taking place , several native cultures being completely wiped off the face of the Earth , so called "pagan" worshippers being brutally annihilated etc. etc. the list is very , very long . Not just that , in medieval times , horrific methods of torture were used on prisoners of war or even political prisoners . None of these human actions were in the least bit spiritual .
The two World Wars themselves had nothing to do with spirituality .
So , given all this background , I would still be cautious in assuming that humans have any monopoly over spirituality as compared to other intelligent species in the universe , be they Hollow Earthers , intraterrestrials , or extraterrestrials .
Regards
sidharthabahadur wrote:
Dean , first let me reiterate , we can only speculate on such a topic , in the absence of any solid evidence .
There is broad agreement though , that UFOs have been visiting Earth for tens of thousands of years...so if these "UFO people" whoever they are (an open question ??) , have not YET carried out any invasion/attack on the human civilisation on the surface , there is a good chance , they just don't have any such intentions towards us and are only benign "observers" .
Why do I say "wayward species" ?? Well , within the last 100 years alone , our own species killed 55 million of their own kind in WW II alone , maybe another 20 million in WW I perhaps...it was also our own species that obliterated many fellow humans' native cultures from the face of this planet.
If you contrast such "extreme (primate type , territorial/primitive/impulsive) behaviour" with these UFO people , whoever they are , I would say , by any yardstick , they have exercised exemplary restraint with us :))
As for the much hyped stories of "alien abduction" , which do actually occur at times (NO denying that) , such incidents are no different than human researchers who go to Antarctica , then randomly cull out a few penguins for study purposes , extract some tissue samples from them , maybe tag them with a radio collar or insert a miniature tracking device in their flesh and finally release those penguins back into the wild . All this while , the rest of the penguins wouldn't even have noticed that something "odd" happened . Also , no real harm got done to the overall penguin species as such , by such isolated research actions .
As for the spiritual aspect , if you believe in the soul and rebirth , then the same soul could be born as different species in different lifetimes , so a mothman may look odd to us , but we humans also look weird to them . So , there is no monopoly on spiritual growth associated with any particular species on any particular planet of this universe . At least that's the concept followed in Hinduism and Buddhism...not sure how exactly this is viewed in the Abrahamic faiths .
Thus , it would be arrogant to believe that only we humans are capable of spirituality when God (The Supreme Being) has created such a vast universe and possibly so many other species of sentient beings in this cosmos...
Regards
On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 07:08:36 AM
GMT-3, sidhartha bahadur [email protected]
By some accounts I believe (I cannot recall references right now) the
watchers are not as benign as one might want them to be, but perhaps they
were forbidden from interference and thus obtained the status of "watcher".
First, you state direct evidence of this heavenly battle in your remarks.
This is what I'm referring to and humans would essentially be caught in the
middle hiding and scattering where possible during certain such events. The
television series "Ancient Aliens" in S02E04, especially in discussion
about Derinkuyu, is an interesting presentation. Ultimately humans were
likely a mix of both bystanders and participants in some fashion or another
at various stages. It seems to me that the "good" faction saved the
engineered humans and improved upon the sloppy job the initial "Engineers"
performed.
Furthermore, it can be easily argued that WWI and WWII were both spiritual
in nature due to the impetus that fomented them. Notwithstanding, mind you,
the REAL causes for these wars are largely unknown to the world at large!
As a matter of fact, if you talk about the real reasons behind them you
might get in trouble in some cultures and nations due to the luciferian
engineering that's going on.
Sidhartha,
About this
comment:
"that
human civilisation on the Earth's surface has
notbeen wiped out by the technologically
superior
extraterrestrial civilisations , or the ones
from
Earth's interior , suggests they do not see
this as a
zero sum game . Why ?? Probably because they
are more
advanced spiritually , in addition to being
technologically
superior."
One reason I imagine that
they haven't wiped us out is because there are forces
opposed that either would prevent such a thing, or that
would make them pay for it down the road. Such as ... the
hollow earthers. When the Varginha crash occurred in Brazil,
the witnesses reported that there had been a dog fight with
another craft. And the crash occupants weren't Nordic or
anything like that, they were weird UFO creatures. This
suggests that the hollow earthers do not allow them a
completely free hand on the surface. As I said
"forces opposed".
And another idea I have is
that we are to serve some purpose for them, the underworld
creatures. They are bringing us to a point where we may
battle with the hollow earthers on equal terms, as proxies.
Underworld creatures can't bear the light of the Sun,
they need humans to go against humans. I attribute the
shepherding and technological development to such a
purpose.
Remember that these reptoids
and humanoid races are wired differently, they are not
human. The Mothman, for example, seems to be an insect man,
and you can't expect an insect man to be spiritually
advanced. The natural food for many insects is the blood of
warm blooded mammals. Abductions is a common activity
carried out by greys and such driving UFOs, and you cant be
spiritually advanced if you abduct ladies from their
bedrooms at night. A common activity of UFO abductions is to
extract the eggs from their ovaries. I think we all agree
that the origin of the Greys is subterranean, and of other
types, too.
Anyway, I think that you have
written quickly and overlooked a few
things.
Dean
On Saturday, July 6, 2019, 07:08:36 AM
GMT-3, sidhartha bahadur [email protected]
ALLPLANETS-HOLLOW wrote:
Let me now take this thought one step
further...secret societies have obsessed over the "eye
of providence/all seeing eye/third eye" concept and the
powers that be , probably got their idea of universal
surveillance/keeping an eye on people at all times , from
that same source...the only difference being that
surveillance , almost universally , is for nefarious
purposes !
Dean , all I am saying is that , with greater intellect comes greater sophistication and then spirituality . So any species in this cosmos , that is as intelligent or more intelligent than humans is likely to be (though not necessarily so) as spiritual , or more spiritual than humans .
Increasing intelligence in a species , gives them the ability to reason , to contemplate their actions and rise above instinctive reactions to each and every situation . This is why our primate cousins such as chimps or man's best friend , the dog , are simply incapable of spirituality Reptilian spirituality ? Who knows ?
I know I am asking for trouble here but these things need to be addressed before you people become so brainwashed that you actually believe there is an "alternative" media out there. Never doubt that the "antagonistic Islamic immigration" lie/ false concept that you use as an excuse for your inexcusable racism as well as your TV/Radio habits is created in late night "think tanks" by WHITE "humans," who very unconvincingly manufacture these straight up lies to further misdirect, while crippling an already physically dangerous society with more fantasies about "liberalism," "communism," and many other isms that don't really exist but protect their private property which they have been stealing and defending at gunpoint for quite some time.
Murrugan,
I think that we are getting to the point of "off topic".
It suffices to say that the alternative media may be infiltrated, too. In fact, a significant portion of it must be.
Dean
My take on international jewry is that they are all basically serving the same ideals in theory, but they are functioning on a "need to know" basis because no race of people are bad, but I doubt as many Israelis would carry out their imperialist attacks if they weren't encouraged to stick together in a patriotic fervor based on where they happen to be born? The balance of nuclear military threat appears to have shifted from the USA to Israel. I think a lot of this has to do with the dumbing down of the U.S. population to the point where what was once the muscle behind the not so secret world government is now a strange looking group of mutated cohorts. It almost seems like even if they wanted to blow more things up than they usually do, they wouldn't have the awareness or concentration to cause much more damage, and on top of that many of the USA's nuclear installations have been compromised and even completely shut down in some cases by UFOs. Even Putt Putt Donald Trump would much rather build more Hotels & Casinos globally than continue the military conquests, no matter what they force him to "say" from the teleprompter and ear feeds.
It sounds like you are a victim of the very brainwashing you speak of. Your comments are not well-thought-out and you have a lot more hot air coming out of your mouth than actual facts. You sure like to use a lot of watchwords and narratives perpetuated by the media, for someone who claims to be so enlightened.
I have actual research and information to back up my claims; can you say the same? I think not. As usual, you make drive-by criticisms when it's clear that you really just enjoy feeling better than everyone in your little corner. I hate to break it to you pal, but a superiority complex does not make you immune to brainwashing, which has clearly taken severe hold on you.
In any case, I have no desire to argue with you any further, but you're the one who resurrected this thread after it was inactive for over a month. If you want to make ad hominem attacks against me, who your remarks are apparently aimed at, then email me personally instead of turning this into a public brouhaha. Not that I want to argue with you at all, private or public.