To: List Members
From: Dean
Re: A chapter from the book of P.N Oaks called Our World Vedic
Heritage. In this chapter Mr. Oaks relates the Scandanavian region to India, along the lines of an anthropological, motherland source.
I think that his concept is a bit sectarian, let´s just see Scandanavia in terms of an Indo-European, pre-western civilization; and then we can ponder what its source was.
He makes the point that the ancient Indo Europeans from India
migrated to the Scandanavian region; something like that. I don´t
think that this is exactly reasonable, nor is an origin in the
Caucasians reasonable. For one thing, the Hindus and Caucasians are darker complected and it would have taken some doing for them to migrate to Scandanavia and generate a blond haired, blue eyed race. Don’t bet on any Sun-bleaching from the long Arctic days. Scandanavian blonds have very thin hair, and Hindus have thick, black hair. How did that change ?
If the Hindus went there and taught the Scandanavians Indo-European Sanskrit to people who were already there; then it would have been difficult for Hindus from the sub continent to migrate, preserve and teach some of the complex linguistic patterns of Indo-European language (Sanskrit in this case), such as verb
conjugations and the declensions of nouns, which Sanskrit and the
languages of Northern Europe have in common. You don’t just teach and change a language from one generation to the next. And teach how ? Did the kinds in Scandanavia attend school all day long a few thousand years ago in Scandanavia? And how could such large numbers of Hindus Migrate there and all over northern Europe? Enough for the Scandanavians to pick up and absorb Sanskrit or something similar and Indo-European? Let’s be realistic.
A much closer origin would be the Arctic opening to the hollow earth,
from which the hollow earth culture could have made several discrete migrations to various points in northern Europe. If you want to study a civilization but you can’t access that civilization, then perhaps if you study the civilization next to it, you will find some things out. Let’s assume that the northern Europeans were migrants from the hollow earth who got stuck outside when the cloud mantle fell after 40 days and forty nights of rain. Even if things changed a bit, you would be able to get a good ideaof the original civilization or culture from those northern Europeans. You would be able to pick up an understanding of their religious system, for example (keep this in mind as you read below).
Of course, indologists haven´t been able to interpret in this way
because they have no concept of the Hollow Earth Theory.
Read the similarities which Mr. Oaks presents below, and see if a Scandanavian and European origin from the hollow earth through the Arctic opening isn´t more reasonable.
Mr. Oaks:
THE VEDIC PAST OF THE SCANDINAVIAN REGION.
Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland though separate countries today, are lumped together in ancient Vedic terminology as Scandinavia.
Scandinavia is a Sanskrit term meaning a naval settlement founded in the name of Scand [also Skanda - Dean] , the son of Lord Shiva and Commander-in-Chief of the divine armies. The Vikings inherited that tradition. The last syllable King is the Sanskrit word “simha” [also shortened to “sim” and pronounced “sing” – Dean] signifying a lion.
The whole of Europe was administered in ancient times by a Sanskrit-speaking Vedic clan known as Daityas. [The Mayan Indians were Daitya followers, too, and they didn’t speak Sanskrit! Oaks needs a reality check here. The inhabitants here were overwhelmed by hollow earth migrants and the HE language became the de facto language. The opposite happened in the Basque Country in Spain. The Indo-Europeans mixed and their race dominated, but not completely, which is why the Basques are very Indo-European looking, but they have black hair and dark black brows. But the Basques were able to hold onto their language because, probably, the migration was not so overwhelming, and the Indo-Europeans from the North learned the Basque language, which has similarities with Tamil (South India), Mayan and Japanese. That Mayan language and culture had a huge presence on the face of the Earth, around the Earth.
The Vedic Puranas record that the Avatar Prasurama met 21 different warrior clans in the hollow earth and exiled them to the surface, so right there you have the migration and imposition upon the previous European culture]
Danu and Merk were two leaders of that ancient clan of the Daityas.
It is those two names which are combined in the term Denmark. [Now occupied by Indo-Europeans, the population was re-cycled, the language was not. Finnish is not an Indo-European language and had similarities with Tamil from South India, and by implication with the other associated Tamil dialects]
Count Biornstierna is, therefore, right in observing " it appears
that the Hindu settlers migrated to Scandinavia before the Mahabharat War." [I.e., The Bhagavad Gita War. Before, yes … but it wasn’t the Hindus, it was the Indo-Europeans from northern Europe and, by extension, the hollow earth races.]
The ancient names Sverige for Sweden and Norge for Norway are
Sanskrit terms Swarga and Narka. The term Sweden in Sanskrit
signifies a place where there is no perspiration. Since Narka alias
Norge signifies ´ Hell ´ in Sanskrit, Vedic tradition, it is very
significant and pertinent that in Norway one town is actually named
Hell. This is very important proof of the Vedic past of Norway.
Upsala near Stockholm in Sweden is a Sanskrit term signifiying an
auxiliary or subordinate educational campus. It could, therefore, be
that in the pre-Christian days Upsala originated as a second,
satellite campus of the main educational establishment in Stockholm.
The Vedas
Scandinavia's ancientmost scripture is known as Edda because it is a corruption of the name Veda. After the discontinuance of Sanskrit
tuition in Europe and as a result of the spread of Christianity, the
contents of the Vedas were forgotten and the word itself came to be
mispronounced as Edda.
These days only the written name 'Veda' survives in Scandinavia. Even that is wrongly pronounced as Edda. Its kernel, viz., its Sanskrit chants have all been substituted by some imaginary stories.
Vedic Designs
Dorothea Chaplin observes in her book as follows: “During, recent years it has come to be recognized how deeply the impress of ancient Indian designs and folklore have influenced the pre-Columbian civilization of America. But the designs and beliefs centered around the elephants are just as emphatically revealed in the antiquities of Scotland and Scandinavia".
In Vedic tradition elephants are considered holy. God Ganesh has an elephant's head. Every temple and palace is many-a-time decorated with elephant statues because an elephant is considered a symbol of sober wisdom and sacred strength. The existence of the elephant in Scandinavian symbolism, though a live elephant is not native to the region, is a sure indication of the prevalence of Vedic culture in pre-Christian Scandinavia.
Names and Surnames
Scandinavian names such as Amundsen and Sorensen are clearly of the Vedic tradition. In India the term ‘Sen’ is generally used as a
surname, but even personal names such as Ugrasen and Bhadrasen have ´sen´ endings.
The term Veda also forms part of Scandinavian names as in India, as in names like Vedram and Vedprakash.
Buddha Idols
Some Buddha idols found in sunken ships in the frozen seas around
Scandinavian countries, indicate that because Scandinavia practiced Vedic culture when the Buddha rose to fame in India, his name, fame and images were carried to Scandinavia too as to other parts of the world. [Or, more likely, from the hollow earth]
Shiva Worship
Many relics of Shiva worship are often found in Scandinavia as in the rest of Europe. But Christian invaders of Scandinavia have done their worst in twisting Shiva worship rituals and prayer books to appear as though they were all woven around sexual revelries or primitive adulation of the genital organs. Even in India, enemies of Vedic culture have manufactured such defamatory Sanskrit literature to masquerade as genuine classics of those revelling in sex worship.
Count Biornstierna, himself a Scandinavian, observes "we have [in
Scandinavia] another proof that the myths of the Scandinavians are
derived from those of the Hindus." P. 163, The Theogony of the Hindus, by Count Biornstierna.
Though under the present political dispensation the term Scandinavia may apply only to Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland yet let us also study the other northern European regions in this context.
"Even today, the study of Sanskrit is a treasured objective among
the Finns and the Lithuanians and the legendary gods of these people can be mostly identified with Vedic deities. " [Lithuanian is ever so close to Sanskrit. How did it get there? The Hindus did not trudge all the way over from the sub continent and teach it to the blond haired, blue eyed ones. The Lithuanians are direct descendants of the hollow earth and they brought it with them. Olaf Jansen mentioned that the language in the hollow earth is “much like the Sanskrit”.
Czechoslovakia
In the Czechoslovak language too Veda means knowledge. This is an indication that the Vedas have been a part of ancient European
tradition. Science faculties in Czechoslovakian academies are known as 'Veda'.
The Sanskrit word for sugar is Sharkara. Even the English word sugar is a regional variation of the Sanskrit term. The Czech word 'Sucker' is nearer still in pronunciation to the Sanskrit term Sharkara.
The Czech word 'masso' is akin to the word 'mass' in several modern Indian languages because they derive from the original Sanskrit word `mausam' meaning 'flesh'.
Finland
The ‘Sauna' hot bath of Finland, is obviously the Sanskrit word 'Snanam.' meaning 'bath'.
"Edda ( alias Veda ) is the sacred book of the Scandinavian branches of the Teutonic family ... It includes the Goths of different names, the Moeso-Goths near the Danube; the Visigoths in Spain; the Ostro-Goths who culminated under Theodoric in Italy; the Franks whose name is ‘free men', and the Lombards who founded a second kingdom in Italy. Of the Teutons we hear nothing until Tacitus the Roman historian found them settled in Germany. To Iceland we must go to learn what they believed and felt before they were brought into contact with Christianity. In the year 874 A.D. a body of people left Norway because they would not submit to the tyranny of Harold Harfager, or Fair Hair and settled in Iceland. They carried with them the religion, the poetry, and the laws of their race; and on this desolate volcanic island they kept these records unchanged for
hundreds of years. In 1639 these books were discovered ... this
literature of the Scandinavian peninsula gives a key to the
literature of all the Teutonic families; its ideas agree so
wonderfully with the Sanskrit ideas .....The ancient
literature of the four nations who inhabit the Scandinavian peninsula
is practically one ".
The suffix ´GOTH´ quoted above is the Sanskrit term 'gotra'. It
signifies a bond of nurture under a common Guru alias sage. All Hindu intelligentsia continue to retain and mention, if asked,
their 'Gotra' alias 'Goth' with holy nostalgic reverence. India's
present Foreign Secretary's surname 'Rasagotra' is of that same
tradition.
The extract quoted above gives one an indication that the people who inhabit the various regions of Europe are Teutons alias Daityas; and that they all had a common ancient literature. It contained poetry and laws and that the ideas therein agreed with ideas in Sanskrit scriptures. That clearly indicates that the Edda was a latter-day, native European edition of the Vedas like the Zend- Avesta of Persia.
The above conclusion gets further clarified and confirmed by some
more details which Laura gives, namely, " The Norsemen were converted to Christianity so much later than any other European nation that their cosmogony and mythology have been preserved to us in a perfectly unaltered condition. Their literature is both grand and poetic. Their sacred books are the two Eddas, one poetic,
the other prose, written in that old Norse tongue which was once spoken by the four families throughout the Scandinavian Peninsula. The word Edda means great grandmother because the poems were handed down from grandmothers by repetition. The poetic Edda which is the older of the two, is a collection of 37 sagas. Some of them are religious, and give an account of the creation of the world,
of the gods and men; some of them historical telling of the heroes of the nation; one of them gives a series of moral maxims.
"The ballads were written before the 8th century but they were
collected together, in 7086 A.D. by a Christian priest named Soemund. Scholars think Soemund was a name given to him in reference to this, for it means the mouth which scatters seeds "
The Vedas and Upanishads
"The prose Edda was collected about 1200 A.D. It explains the
mythology and the history of the poetic Edda which, indeed, could
hardly be understood without it. It would be difficult to gather a
system of belief, even a connected story, from utterances so vague,
incoherent and disjointed as those of Soemund's Edda, especially the mythological part; the heroic portion is more connected and
comprehensible. But nevertheless, there is a wonderful charm about
the Edda, a vague breadth in the thought, a delicious simplicity in
the expression. Of course there is first the cosmogony or creation of
the world (as under):
There was in times of old
Nor Sand nor Sea
Nor gelid waves
Earth existed not.
Nor heaven above
" I " was a chaotic chasm
And grass nowhere
Then the Supreme ineffable spirit willed
And a formless chaotic matter was created "
This will immediately suggest that wonderful hymn of the Rigved
"There is only one being who exists Unmoved yet moving swifter than the wind, Who far outstrips the senses, though as gods They strive to reach Him, who, Himself at rest Transcends the fleetest flight of other beings Who, like the air, supports all vital action. He moves not; he is far yet near. He is within this universe, and yet Outside this universe; whoe'r beholds All living creatures as in him, and him, The universal spirit as in all, Henceforth regards no creature with contempt".
The two Eddas, one in verse and the other in prose are obviously
carry-overs of the original Sanskrit Vedas and the Upanishads
respectively. The wonderful charm ant breadth of thought and the
story of the creation in the Edd: are unmistakable characteristics of
the Vedas. Similar pre-Christian Anglo-Saxon ballads are preserved in a manuscript in Exeter Cathedral in England.
Since the Mahabharat war ( around 3138 B. C. ), the tradition of
Vedic recitation in Europe broke down and the memory of the Vedas
gradually faded away. Later because of the Christian invasion even
the remaining traces of the Vedic tradition were wiped out from
Europe. In spite of such a big time?gap the irresistible divine magic
of the Vedas impelled even a Christian priest such as Soemund to
scrape and cull together whatever conceptual remnants he could find of the long extinct Vedic tradition in Europe. The effort was worth its while because from that collection, described above, one can certainly conclude that what is currently being spelled as Edda was indeed basically the Veda. The belief that Edda signifies a grandmother is a latter-day improvised explanation. The real meaning is Veda.
Upsala was a Temple
We have already explained earlier that Upsaia is a Sanskrit word
connoting a subordinate educational establishment. Laura Poor's
noting says as much. She observes – " The temple of Norsemen was at Upsala in Sweden: the grove that surrounded it was sacred." It was obviously a hermitage and Vedic school.
With the Christian invasion of Europe Olaf was the first Scandinavian king to be inviegled into turning a Christian. As soon as he was baptised he let loose his armies in 1030 A. D, to convert all Scandinavians to Christianity. Thereafter the Gods of old were
stigmatised and misrepresented as demons and devils.
Scandinavians settled in England were turned Christians four
centuries earlier than the people in their home countries.
The Ramayan
All ancient Sanskrit scriptures lie battered, scattered, trampled and
forgotten in Europe. Some remnants of the Vedas and the Upanishads we have already discussed above.
Likewise the Ramayan too has been reduced to small bits. Like
fragments of a torn text, single episodes from the Ramayan survive in Europe as loose, independent stories. One such is the Hildebrand
Lied, the oldest in Norse mythology because it is an episode from the million year ancient Ramayan. It is a part of what was once a bigger German epic.
The Mahabharat Legends
Another Norse ballad is about Sigfried, a hero who was born covered with a coat of horn. Obviously this is the European relic of the Mahabharat character, Karna who was born with an armour plated body.
The Vedic Past of the Slavs
Modern states such as Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia constitute the region inhabited by the Slav community. Slave language like other languages is a dialect of Sanskrit, too. There fire is Agni as in Sanskrit, malka (Mallika) is mother, sestra is sister; brat is brother; syn is son, nos is nose, dom (dham) is house, dvar is door alias dwar. The Gypsies living with the Slavs are also Hindus from India. They worship Rama, Krishna, Kali and numerous other Vedic deities. In Scopte a city in Yugoslavia over 50,000 Ramas
alias Hindus live. Their names too are Hindu such as Sudhakant, Asha, Meenakshi and Ramkali. They remember and respect India as their "Baro tha " i.e. big land.
Ancestor Worship
The ancestor-worship practised by the Slavs in ancient times and the powers of nature adored by them are proof of their pre?Christian
Vedic heritage.
The Slavs also offered sacrifices under Oak trees.
Their chief deity Bog is a relic of the Sanskrit word Bhagawan,
Swarog is another name of that supreme deity. That name Swarca is the Sanskrit word for heaven.
English words ´bogy' and 'Puck' are also corruptions of the Sanskrit
word 'Bhagawan'.
The Sun is called Dauzh Bog by the Slavs. That is the Sanskrit term
Diwas-Bhagawan i.e. the God of daylight. Stri?Bog is the wind god.
Ogon is their pronunciation of the Sanskrit ' Agni ' meaning 'fire'.
Slav peasants refer to grain always as sacred corn' in the Vedic,
Hindu way.
The Vedic deity Varun is pronounced by the Slavs as Parun'.
Tree Worship
Corresponding to the tall banyan and peepul tree in India the Oak
tree was held so sacred by the Slavs that even after conversion to
Christianity and giving up their idols the Slavs would not tolerate
their sacred Oak trees to be cut down.
The Sati Custom
Up to about a thousand years ago Slav widows too used to immolate themselves on the funeral pyres of their deceased husbands, as in India.
The Slavs looked upon the rainbow and the milky way as the pathways to heaven, which was the abode of the Sun and therefore the abode of the dead.
Veda Slovena
Mr. Verkoviez a Slav resident of Serres, near Salonica, published in
1874 a remarkable collection of Slavonic poetry and named it Veda
Slovena. That is an indication of the memory of the Vedas still
surviving among the Slavs and also of the great respect they still
retain for the Vedas. This couldn't have been possible if the Vedas
had not formed part of their lost heritage. Those songs used to be
recited even by Mohamedan Bulgarians but Mr. Verkoviez claims to have found them in an ancient monastery on Mt. Rhodope in Thrace. Some Slavonic savants hail them as genuine, sacred ancient hymns while others denounce them as concoctions.
The Norsemen and Slavs were forced to abandon their Vedic culture and become Christian in the 9th century. For a long time Christianity was suffered to exist. However Vladimir, the Charlemagne of Russia (who ascended the throne in 980 A. D.) proclaimed Christianity as the state religion by himself toppling a statue of the Vedic deity, Varun alias Parun. Thereafter, all Vedic temples and schools in the region were turned into Christian churches and monasteries. At his baptism the name Vladimir was changed to Wassily. The Russo-Greek church has since hailed him as St. Basil. This is yet another instance of the Christian and Muslim practice of raising to sainthood persons who wielded the sword and resorted to terror and torture to eradicate worldwide Vedic culture and force people to become Christians and Muslims.
The heroic ballads that are sung about Wassily and about Charlemagne are full of pre-Christian ideas and sentiments grafted on to these Christian converts.
A few ritual songs preserved by the peasantry described the
agricultural changes of the seasons. But constant priestly
disapproval of those pre-Christian songs have resulted in changing
the original Vedic content and meanings of those songs.
Sankranti Festival
Yet as in India the people celebrate the end of winter by building up
a bonfire. Peasants dance and sing songs to Lode, the goddess of
spring and festivity and for a week the children shoot with bows and
arrows. The Christian priests have now baptised that festival as
Butter Week. This is yet another indication of how Christians and
Muslims put their own shrouds on age old Vedic festivals to make them look deceptively Christian or Muslim.
In India there are two festivals, both connected with winter, where
bonfires are lighted. One falls on January 13/14 and the other about
two and half months later. The latter is also a kind of a water
festival.
The one falling on January 13/1 4 is known in the Punjab region of
north India as Lodi and also as Sankranti. This is almost the same as the ‘Lada' of the Slavs. Since Indian festivals have an unbroken
Vedic link it is obvious that the Lada festival of the Slavs is also
of Vedic origin.
End of P N Oaks