Ridges v. Faults

Hi, Dean and All****{ :-) }

Dean, in response to your query. *(A word of warning! This is going to be a bit long-winded!) * The difference between "fault-lines" and "mid-ocean ridges" is as follows.

A geological fault-line is basically the line or direction of a break or fracture in the Earth's crust, along which the opposing halves of what was previously a single mass of rock have shifted in relation to each other. The San Andreas Fault in California is a classic example. Whilst there is seldom any upwelling of magma from a simple crustal fault, there are often very severe seismic-tremors whenever the two sides slide laterally against one another, since this usually occurs in a series of abrupt and sharp "jerks".

A mid-oceanic ridge is usually a submerged mountain ridge that has been created by the tectonic friction between two (or more) crustal plates, and is usually comprised of two opposed plate edges, that build up mountainously thru the constant-upwelling of lava. Typically these mountainous plate-edges oppose each other on either side of a volcanic central crevasse, from which molten lava issues and rapidly cools and sets into solid basaltic rock by the cold water of the ocean deeps. These submarine plate-ridges, or volcanic "splits" in the ocean floor - of which the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is a prime example - are studded with many live volcanic peaks, many of which protrude above the surface, eventually becoming habitable islands. The multitudinous islands of the western Pacific are mostly dormant volcano cones.

Because of this constant upwelling and setting of the molten lava, all of the mid-oceanic ridges, (which are crustal plate-edges), gradually push each other apart as the new basalt forms continues to build up along their margins, and this action in turn pushes the continental masses further apart from each other. This has been observed to be occurring between the Americas and Africa and Europe at a fairly constant rate of between four to seven centimetres a year.

Over a period of two hundred million years (since the closing of the Jurassic era), at an average annual rate of, say 5 cm, the ocean-floor expansion between the America and Africa-European landmasses amounts to around 4.000 km. which is the mean average present width of the Atlantic Ocean!

In other worlds, the dinosaurs of the Triassic and Jurassic must have been able to migrate freely out of Africa into Brazil without getting their feet wet! So if we extend this same concept to all such plate-ridges around the globe, we will eventually arrive at the conclusion that the world then was primarily covered by dry land -as well as being only about half its present size!

This is the foundation of the Expanding Earth theory, which, if true, as it certainly appears to be, can only work in favour of a planet with an **expandable "shell". **It's my personal conjecture that a completely solid planet, undergoing such enormously great expansional stresses would probably have shattered itself to fragments long ago. Yet ours has not. **Why? **

The reason can only lie in the fact that our planet - and thus by simple association - all of the terrestrial planets - must be fairly thick-crusted but hollow spheroids! The molten magma must be contained in large "reservoirs" in between the inner and outer surfaces of the crustal "peel", in much the same way that enormous reserves of water are collected in subterranean artesian basins in many parts of the world. (Most of the Australian continent is underlaid by such deep basins, so the principle is not hard to grasp Down Under!)

I also suggest that the molten lava is constantly being produced by the heat of atomic reactions taking place deep within the crust, at the gravitational limit, where most of the Earth's heaviest radioactive elements will have largely have become concentrated.

There may even be radioactive substances down there which are still entirely unknown to us here on the surface! Despite all their boastful and arrogant claims to supreme knowledge, modern scientists simply cannot not know everything yet about geology or physics, so our ideas and hypotheses are just as valid as theirs! Thus far, their geologists have only drilled down a mere 17 kilometres into the Earth's crust - a mere "mosquito-bite" in the Earth's skin - so how can they possibly know what lies beneath?

Apropos, Mr.J. A .Cater's concept that Earth's "gravitation" -

or his suggested equivalent force - terminating at the Earth's surface. I cannot see why this should be so. Surely, the earth's gravitational field must terminate in the centre of the crustal thickness, from whence, if we follow it inward toward the Earth's focal centre, it will gradually diminish again on much the same sort of scale as it does outward from the Earth's upper surface? I would therefore expect the actual focal centre of the "inner earth" to be gravity-free, since the diminishing lines of gravitation "force" from all directions within the spherical shell would surely cancel each other out - much as occurs at the Lagrange Point in astrophysics, where the gravitational effects between two planets cancel each other out - such as between the Earth and the Moon.

If this were so, I would anticipate that the lighter gases such as hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryllium, etcetera, would be concentrated together in that central region. nor is it entirely inconceivable that such a powerful concentration of these light elements might become self-ignited, which would thus cause a similar illuminative effect to that of our external Sun, which is composed of these very light elements, which have undergone protonic reaction. Thus we could well arrive at a "sun" in extreme miniature within a hollow Earth!

I don't wish to appear overly dogmatic about all this, and Mr. Cater's concept of "gravity" may very well be correct. but I believe that the same basic laws would apply regarding the location of its maximum effect in a spherical field at around midway through the crust of the Earth. Also, I believe the concept of a universal "ether" or "soft particles" to be true, and this would also apply within as without the Earth's "shell". Ether, in my own view, is the universal carrier of energy waves of all kinds - including those of light and "gravitation" - whether the sort we were taught to accept, or that other "EM force" which is proposed by Mr.Cater.

I Think I've said enough for now, so will leave it there. Look forward to hearing your reactions to all the foregoing!

Regards to all. {:slight_smile: }

Gerry

PS. Dean. I nearly forgot to correct my last statement re the start of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. It's actually in the centre of the Nansen Cordillera - not
alongside it. The Nansen Cordillera is itself actually the first part of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge! Sorry if I confused you! G.

Gerry Wrote:

A geological fault-line is basically the line or direction of a break or fracture in the Earth's crust, along which the opposing halves of what was previously a single mass of rock have shifted in relation to each other. The San Andreas Fault in California is a classic example. Whilst there is seldom any upwelling of magma from a simple crustal fault, there are often very severe seismic-tremors whenever the two sides slide laterally against one another, since this usually occurs in a series of abrupt and sharp "jerks".

A mid-oceanic ridge is usually a submerged mountain ridge that has been created by the tectonic friction between two (or more) crustal plates , and is usually comprised of two opposed plate edges, that build up mountainously thru the constant-upwelling of lava. Typically these mountainous plate-edges oppose each other on either side of a volcanic central crevasse, from which molten lava issues and rapidly cools and sets into solid basaltic rock by the cold water of the ocean deeps. These submarine plate-ridges, or volcanic "splits" in the ocean floor - of which the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is a prime example - are studded with many live volcanic peaks, many of which protrude above the surface, eventually becoming habitable islands. The multitudinous islands of the western Pacific are mostly dormant volcano cones.

Dean Wrote:

  • Thanks for the definitions. I think that the real question in my mind was " what is the difference between a fault, submerged mountain ridge and a plate boundry?" Is a crustal fault does the same as a mountain ridge? Or is a plate boundry completely different. The meaning of the term plate boundry is obvious to me, of course.
  • And this leads me to my next question: Exactly which plates come together above the New Siberian Islands?
  • Your point about the expanding Earth theory working in favor of the HE theory is well taken. In the interest of avoiding needless repitition, I will skip over some of your previously-posted comments and get to the next point on which I have something to say.

Gerry wrote:

I also suggest that the molten lava is constantly being produced by the heat of atomic reactions taking place deep within the crust, at the gravitational limit, where most of the Earth's heaviest radioactive elements will have largely have become concentrated.

There may even be radioactive substances down there which are still entirely unknown to us here on the surface! Despite all their boastful and arrogant claims to supreme knowledge, modern scientists simply cannot not know everything yet about geology or physics, so ** our** ideas and hypotheses are just as valid as theirs! Thus far, their geologists have only drilled down a mere 17 kilometres into the Earth's crust - a mere "mosquito-bite" in the Earth's skin - so how can they possibly know what lies beneath?

Dean Wrote:

  • I think that the goal is to define the cause of the power which drives geological activity: volcanoes, earthquakes and continental drift. Mr. Cater explains how low frequency radiations would penetrate the shell, accumulate along plate boundries and build up in a condenser-like fashion, causing heat and energy. He explains why and how this would be so.
  • I don't feel comfortable with the idea that atomic reactions deep below are causing geological activity. For example, I ask why wouldn't the fuels which power such atomic activity be spent by now? Why weren't they spent in one, big explosion? How could explosions, which have a rather discrete nature, provide a steady, uninterrupted source of power for continental drift? Under Cater's theory, these questions are automatically answered.

Gerry wrote:

Apropos, Mr.J. A .Cater's concept that Earth's "gravitation" -

or his suggested equivalent force - terminating at the Earth's surface. I cannot see why this should be so.

Dean Wrote:

  • Mr. Cater's concept is that gravity " basically " terminates at the Earths surfaces, inner and outer, and that the zero point is reached in between, within the Earth's shell. Here is an appropriate page, number 78, from The Awesome Life Force which explains:

" The concentration of soft particles radiated from the sun begins to increase significantly after a few miles below the surface. This is due to a steady retardation of their passage through the earth and the resulting back up of particles. The increased concentration diminishes after a time, and the concentration gradient becomes smaller from about the halfway point to the inner shell. The pattern of the gravitational attenuation gradient can be easily deduced from this picture. After only a very few miles below the earth, gravity begins to diminish rapidly. This is because the mass of earth above is beginning to transform significant portions of the infrared radiations emanating from the matter into gravity radiations. This decrease starts to taper off at about 25 miles below the surface, because the gravity radiations produced by the matter below this level encounter higher concentrations of soft particles, which screen out gravity radiations more effectively. Gravity decreases more slowly from this point on and doesn't reach the zero point until most of the shell is penetrated. This is due to the energies which permeate the crust, and because gravity radiations are being continuously dissipated and new radiations created. Since the concentration of soft particles in the last 100 miles is [ lower? ] than in the first 100 miles below the surface, the gravity on the inner shell will be less than the gravity on the surface. Figure 2 depicts the gravity attenuation curve for the earth shell. Gravity effects on the inner shell at any point are not offset by the gravity effects of the earth on: the opposite side, because the concentrations of soft particles in the inner:, earth screen out these gravity effects."

Gerry wrote:

Surely, the earth's gravitational field must terminate in the centre of the crustal thickness, from whence, if we follow it inward toward the Earth's focal centre, it will gradually diminish again on much the same sort of scale as it does outward from the Earth's upper surface? I would therefore expect the actual focal centre of the "inner earth" to be gravity-free, since the diminishing lines of gravitation "force" from all directions within the spherical shell would surely cancel each other out - much as occurs at the Lagrange Point in astrophysics, where the gravitational effects between two planets cancel each other out - such as between the Earth and the Moon.

Dean Writes:

** You are only considering the gravity charge/frequency in this analysis. Cater presents a redistribution of frequency which continues below the gravity-inducing frequency. These soft particles then block the penetration of the the gravity-inducing particles behind them. This is so as one penetrates the shell of the Earth from the outer surface.**

** Radiation from the inner sun also penetrates the shell going in the other direction- its radiation also gets redistributed on down to the gravity-inducing frequency, and also goes through attenuation.**

** Mr. Cater explained above that " Gravity effects on the inner shell [ inner surface ] at any point are not offset by the gravity effects of the earth on: the opposite side, because the concentrations of soft particles in the inner earth [ within the hollow cavity ] screen out these gravity effects." In other words, within the hollow cavity, the gravity charge doesn't stretch across the cavity to the other side because there is a buildup of soft particles of a different but similar frequency, which is similar enough to block such an effect. As you know, similar frequencies interfere with each other.**

** The gravity charge doesn't really arrive to the surface of the Earth that way. Radiation/light undergoes a redistribution of frequency** ** within the Earth's crust. Above the surface, inner or outer, any radiation will be of a different frequency. But because it is the next frequency down from the visible band, it is still similar to light above the surface. Again, this similarity of frequency is enough to stop the " reach " of the gravity charge from one point on the inner surface to a point directly across from it on the othe side. **

Gerry wrote:

If this were so, I would anticipate that the lighter gases such as hydrogen, helium, lithium, beryllium, etcetera, would be concentrated together in that central region. nor is it entirely inconceivable that such a powerful concentration of these light elements might become self-ignited, which would thus cause a similar illuminative effect to that of our external Sun, which is composed of these very light elements, which have undergone protonic reaction. Thus we could well arrive at a "sun" in extreme miniature within a hollow Earth!

Dean Writes:

Maybe such gases concentrate together as the band of zero gravity is approached. This, of course, is a whole different subject.

Gerry Wrote:

I don't wish to appear overly dogmatic about all this, and Mr. Cater's concept of "gravity" may very well be correct. but I believe that the same basic laws would apply regarding the location of its maximum effect in a spherical field at around midway through the crust of the Earth. Also, I believe the concept of a universal "ether" or "soft particles" to be true, and this would also apply within as without the Earth's "shell". Ether, in my own view, is the universal carrier of energy waves of all kinds - including those of light and "gravitation" - whether the sort we were taught to accept, or that other "EM force" which is proposed by Mr.Cater.

Dean Writes:

I think that now you might see why the gravity-inducing radiations would not penetrate across the inner shell.

I invite comments from Frode.

Dharma/Dean

I Think I've said enough for now, so will leave it there. Look forward to hearing your reactions to all the foregoing!

Regards to all. {:slight_smile: }

Gerry

  • PS. Dean. I nearly forgot to correct my last statement re the start of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge. It's actually in the centre of the Nansen Cordillera - not
    alongside it. The Nansen Cordillera is itself actually the first part of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge! Sorry if I confused you! G.*

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Gerry,

I don't know why some things came out in dark lettes in that post and some didn't. It wasn't my intention to highlight anything.

Dean

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gravity
Dean,

Cater does talk about deposits of radioactive
materials and sodium as the basic cause for volcanic activity [page
87,TUR]. He says that soft particles play an important role in
volcanic phenomena not that it is the basic cause.

Just a short not, will try to come back to
gravity later.

:slight_smile:

Frode

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Gerry
wrote:
I also suggest that the
molten lava is constantly being produced by the heat of atomic
reactions taking place deep within the crust, at the gravitational
limit, where most of the Earth's heaviest radioactive elements will
have largely have become
concentrated.
There may even be radioactive
substances down there which are still entirely unknown to us here on
the surface! Despite all their boastful and arrogant claims
to supreme knowledge, modern scientists simply cannot not
know everything yet about geology or physics, so our
ideas and hypotheses are just as valid as theirs!
Thus far, their geologists have only drilled down a mere 17 kilometres
into the Earth's crust - a mere "mosquito-bite" in the
Earth's skin - so how can they possibly know what lies
beneath?
Dean Wrote:

  • I think that the goal is to define the
    cause of the power which drives geological activity: volcanoes,
    earthquakes and continental drift. Mr. Cater explains how low
    frequency radiations would penetrate the shell, accumulate along
    plate boundries and build up in a condenser-like fashion, causing heat
    and energy. He explains why and how this would be
    so.
  • I don't feel comfortable with the idea
    that atomic reactions deep below are causing geological activity.
    For example, I ask why wouldn't the fuels which power
    such atomic activity be spent by now? Why weren't they
    spent in one, big explosion? How could explosions, which have a rather
    discrete nature, provide a steady, uninterrupted source of power for
    continental drift? Under Cater's theory, these questions are
    automatically answered.

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Geology and gravity
I stand corrected, and better informed.

Dean

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Dean,

Cater does talk about deposits of radioactive materials and sodium as the basic cause for volcanic activity [page 87,TUR]. He says that soft particles play an important role in volcanic phenomena not that it is the basic cause.

Just a short not, will try to come back to gravity later.

:slight_smile:

Frode

Gerry wrote:
I also suggest that the molten lava is constantly being produced by the heat of atomic reactions taking place deep within the crust, at the gravitational limit, where most of the Earth's heaviest radioactive elements will have largely have become concentrated.
There may even be radioactive substances down there which are still entirely unknown to us here on the surface! Despite all their boastful and arrogant claims to supreme knowledge, modern scientists simply cannot not know everything yet about geology or physics, so our ideas and hypotheses are just as valid as theirs! Thus far, their geologists have only drilled down a mere 17 kilometres into the Earth's crust - a mere "mosquito-bite" in the Earth's skin - so how can they possibly know what lies beneath?
Dean Wrote:
* I think that the goal is to define the cause of the power which drives geological activity: volcanoes, earthquakes and continental drift. Mr. Cater explains how low frequency radiations would penetrate the shell, accumulate along plate boundries and build up in a condenser-like fashion, causing heat and energy. He explains why and how this would be so.
* I don't feel comfortable with the idea that atomic reactions deep below are causing geological activity. For example, I ask why wouldn't the fuels which power such atomic activity be spent by now? Why weren't they spent in one, big explosion? How could explosions, which have a rather discrete nature, provide a steady, uninterrupted source of power for continental drift? Under Cater's theory, these questions are automatically answered.

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Geology and gravity
Jeff and Sean Kincaid,

The explanation to the mirror experiment which Cater mentioned was re-written in the second book, The Ultimate Reality. He additionally relates that the mirrors cannot be of glass because glass absorbs the energy, that the mirrors used had a four-foot diamater, and that something like 30 or 40 of them were employed in the experiment.

Sean,

I forgot to mention the Searl explanation which Cater gave in his book. The soft particle scheme of gravity explains the whole phenomena in stride. It is an example of Cater's concept jumping out at us in some guy's everyday, scientific tinkering and us not knowing exactly how to explain it.

Dharma/Dean

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The more I read about low frequency particles, the more I see that science cannot even explain everyday phenomena because it doesn't take into consideration the broad role of all frequencies of particles, i.e., the soft particles.

I was perusing through ( I had an accounting professor who always used that word. I even looked it up ) the www.orgone.org site in search of evidence of the existence of orgone, i.e., soft particles. They have a lot there.

The role of soft particles in promoting gravity is instrumental in putting together a credible HE model. The idea that gravity is related and caused by the density of mass practically prohibits any HE model.

Remember that, if gravity is an electrostatic, negative charge which exists within the crust of the Earth, then any undue negative charge along the wings of an aircraft will tend to bring about repulsion, i.e., floating/antigravity/lift.

From Chapter 35 of The Ultimate Reality

DISCREPANCIES IN CONVENTIONAL,

EXPLANATION OF FLIGHT

As is the case with all other phenomena, academic science has failed miserably to account for the flight of airplanes and gliders. It can readily be shown that the science Of aerodynamics, on which establishment science depends, does not even begin to account for the ability of aircraft to stay aloft. According to the experts, Bernoulli's Principle is involved. The airfoil causes the air to flow more rapidly over the top of the wing than below, producing unequal air pressure on the wing. Obviously the differential pressure is too minute since an airplane will fly upside down almost as well as it will in the normal position. It is also significant that earlier planes did not have this type of airfoil.

A clue toward resolving this is the fact that for any given plane, there is a minimum velocity it must travel relative to the atmosphere before it is able to take off or remain aloft. Air molecules tend to concentrate orgone or soft electrons around them. As they move across the surface of the aircraft, the interaction of the air molecules with the surface, produces a tendency for the air to give up some of the soft electrons to the wings and fuselage. The greater the relative velocity, the greater the tendency. When the air molecules lose some of their soft electrons, there is a movenent of surrounding particles to fill the particle voids. As a result, an abnormal negative charge is imparted to the surfaces of the plane and the plane or glider is levitated by the Earth's gravity. The only role aerodynamics plays in flight is the ability to maneuver and forward thrust.

The same principles are involved with anything that travels through the atmosphere. This principle can also be demonstrated with a rifle bullet fired in a direct parallel to the ground. It will not fall to the ground as rapidly as the same bullet dropped from the same height. This is in violation of the dogmas of Newtonian gravitation. Of course below a certain critical velocity, the moving body will tend to fall to the ground in accordance with the normal acceleration due to gravity.

This concept is also involved with falling bodies. Air resistance alone does not account for the fact they quickly reach a terminal velocity. The world speed record fen- downhill skiing presents a paradox conventional physics cannot explain. The speed attained is greater than that claimed for the terminal velocity of a sky diver. Yet, the skier has not only the friction of the air to overcome but also the friction of the skis moving on the surface of the ice and snow. The paradox is resolved when it is relised that much of the excess negative charge given to the skier is discharged to the ground

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Re: The book of Marshall B. Gardner

OBSERVATIONS OF DR. HAYES

We may now turn to the observations of one of Dr. Kane's companions, Dr. I. I. Hayes, who took a prominent part in the expedition and who wrote his account of it under the significant title, " The Open Polar Sea." Dr. Haves went up Kennedy Channel, along the coast of Grinnell Land almost as far north as 82 degrees. Long before he had reached that point, however, he began to notice the strange contradictions that the arctic regions present. He passed into the Arctic circle on July 30, and was soon in the middle of a vast field of ice-bergs. He says of this experience:

"The air was warm almost as a summer's night at home, and yet there were the ice-bergs and the bleak mountains, with which the fancy, in this land of green, hills and waving forests [that is to say, America], can associate with nothing but cold repulsiveness. The sky was bright and soft, and strangely inspiring as the skies of Italy. The bergs had wholly lost their chilly aspect."

That is sufficientlv remarkable --surely indicating, according to what other explorers have already told us, in these pages, that the wind must have been from the north for the few days previous that would have brought some of the mildness from the actual polar regions down. If the reader is not yet convinced of that let him watch Dr. Haves as he proceeds further toward that region. Conviction will follow.

MILD TEMPERATURES FOUND

By November 2, Dr. Hayes had reached Cape Alexander, on the Greenland coast ( Grinnel Land forms the other coast of Kennedy Channel which the explorers will soon reach ) at a latitude of a little over 78*. Here they weere hit by a gale, strong enough to break up the ice and send it scudding away Southwest. But Dr. Hayes is surprised by two things: Although the gale is from the Northeast, the temperature has all the time been very mild- in fact, it has never been below zero, and moverover, when the gale had driven the ice away, there was no more ice from the North to take its place.

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Soft Particles and flight
char

Remember
that, if gravity is an electrostatic, negative charge which exists
within the crust of the Earth, then any undue negative charge along
the wings of an aircraft will tend to bring about repulsion, i.e.,
floating/antigravity/lift.

Negative charge which exists within the crust of the Earth???
What do you mean with that Dean? Again, this promote confusion rather
then understanding.

From Chapter
35 of The Ultimate Reality

It is chapter 34!

Frode

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Geology and gravity
People,

I am not really offended by Norlan's tone, although I think that I misunderstood his gist.

I admit that I have been making some rather simple presentations of Cater's soft particle physics; I think that I haven't really gone on with much more because I haven't gotten much feedback on the little that I have run by the list.

We can take the behavior and role of soft particles much more further. That's one reason I've mentioned the orgone site which gathers together various groups who are involved in this, mostly in relation to biology.

I do think that the basic idea behind gravity is that it is a matter of a dynamic between a negative charge which is mostly bred within the Earth and matter, which naturally has a positive charge. Of course, how it all comes about is more complicated. If we just start talking about ethers and how they form photons and then combine into the fundamental particles, then we might lose a few people. Again, I would expect to get some feedback before I took it to that level.

And, of course, I'm not a scientist, so my ability to take it to the scientific community is a bit limited. My ability to even understand soft particle physics is a bit It would be nice to have some big-gun scientist join us, but I don't know where he is.

And then, we have that question about whether or not people are ready for soft particle physics- as I've pointed out a while ago, if antigravity were commonly understood we might have terrorists flying over NY dropping deadly chemicals.

Anyway, let's keep developing these ideas. I'm not offended by anyone. The potter applies pressure to the clay on his wheel in order to give it formation- I need some feedback and direction. If not, my understandings will just end up inbred and limit everyone else's understanding.

Please, say more on this topic.

Dharma/Dean

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Gravity, Cater and
All

People,
I am not really offended by Norlan's
tone, although I think that I misunderstood his gist.
I admit that I have been making some
rather simple presentations of Cater's soft particle physics; I think
that I haven't really gone on with much more because I haven't gotten
much feedback on the little that I have run by the list.

I have to take my share of blame there. I kind of promised you to
help you out with this when you started the list. I quit sure that I
will be more present next year as I have managed to redirect my life
from the dead end that I was in.

We can take the behavior and role of
soft particles much more further. That's one reason I've mentioned the
orgone site which gathers together various groups who are involved in
this, mostly in relation to biology.
I do think that the basic idea behind
gravity is that it is a matter of a dynamic between a negative charge
which is mostly bred within the Earth and matter, which naturally has
a positive charge. Of course, how it all comes about is more
complicated. If we just start talking about ethers and how they form
photons and then combine into the fundamental particles, then we might
lose a few people. Again, I would expect to get some feedback before I
took it to that level.

Yes! It is difficult without feedback. The problem is that when
one have to give "negative" feedback one tend to not give
any feedback at all, at least not until bubble burst.

And, of course, I'm not a scientist, so
my ability to take it to the scientific community is a bit limited. My
ability to even understand soft particle physics is a bit It would be
nice to have some big-gun scientist join us, but I don't know where he
is.

To be scientific is first and foremost a way of thinking. The
site I proposed to you will help you on the way, it is not as
difficult as you think. Play with it!

And then, we have that question about
whether or not people are ready for soft particle physics- as I've
pointed out a while ago, if antigravity were commonly understood we
might have terrorists flying over NY dropping deadly
chemicals.
Anyway, let's keep developing these
ideas. I'm not offended by anyone. The potter applies pressure to the
clay on his wheel in order to give it formation- I need some feedback
and direction. If not, my understandings will just end up inbred and
limit everyone else's understanding.

Thanks for not trowing us out of your list.

Just kidding,

:slight_smile:

Frode

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topic.
Dharma/Dean