plasmas

Hello everybody

    Can someone please help me understand what plasmas are. I have
read references to plasma sheaths, plasma vortices, and like that
but still dont have a handle on them.

thanks Kevin

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Hello everybody

    Can someone please help me understand what plasmas are. I have
read references to plasma sheaths, plasma vortices, and like that
but still dont have a handle on them.

thanks Kevin
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Kevin,

I am not the best person to define plasmas to you. There are two or three
people on the list that will probably do that.

But this article might be a good place to start. Frode found it once.

Dharma/Dean

The famous conversation between Nicholas Roerich and the Tibetan Lama in the
1920s, posted by Dharma/Dean:

...the Russian
archaeologist told of his conversation with a high Lama
is Tibet in his visits to that land in 1928.
"Lama, tell me of Shamballah," Roerich said:
"But you westerners know nothing of Shamballah,"
the lama answered. "You wish to know nothing.
Probably you ask out of curiosity; and you pronounce
the sate word in vain."
"Lama, I don't ask about Shamballah aimlessly,"
Roerich replied. "Everywhere, people know of this
great symbol under different names. Or scientists seek
each -new spark containing this remarkable realm.
Csoma de Koros knew of Shamballah, when he made
his prolonged visits to the Buddhist monasteries. Grun-
wendel translated the book of the famous Tashi Lama,
pal-den-ye-she, about the `Way To Shamballah.'
We sense how, under these sweet symbols, a great
truth is concealed . . . " The lama stared intently at Nicholas Roerich for
a
moment, looking at the Russian scientist with un-
blinking, piercing eyes. Roerich and the lama were
alone in a long room in the monastery. The lama broke
the silence of the darkened room by clapping his hands.
A monk appeared with tea in two porcelain cups on a
gold tray. As they sipped the bitter liquid, the lama ex-
plained that Shamballah was simply an enormous
celestial kingdom, akin to the heavenly kingdom of the
Christian religion.
Roerich was not content with this .explanation. He
placed a portfolio of notes on a rug between them.
"Lama, I have heard of the reality of this indescrib-
able. place-an earthly Shamballah. I've been told that
some high lamas have visited Shamballah. I've heard of
the Buryat Lama and how he was taken through,a nar-
row, secret passageway. So please don't tell me of only
the heavenly Shamballah because I know that a real
one exists on earth."

Jan Lamprecht is quite big on the idea that HARP radiation is being beamed
somehow into the inner cavity.

How would such rays interact with the low frequency rays of the inner sun?

By the way, what do HARP rays consist of?

Dharma/Dean

List members,

Remember a couple of days ago I related a story, which was told to me by Mr.
Cater, about the WWII aviator who found that huge mountain in Tibet? It
towered over his craft, even at 40,000 feet, such that he couldn't see the
top.

Well, I'd like to add that the name of the area was Nan Sahn, although it
sounded to me like " Nan Sen."

Anybody have a good atlas? Can anybody tell me where this area is, i.e., how
far North from the himalayas, how far East, how far West, etc?

Dharma/Dean

List Members,

I got this url from Jean Jensen of another list about Admiral Byrd's
Expedition to Antartica around 1949. Of course, they don't tell you
everything that was seen, it is a propaganda movie, but it is interesting to
watch.

http://www.thule.org/secret.html

Mr. Cater told me that when Byrd went to the Antartic in 1949, he entered
deep into the opening and stayed inside about six months. Cater said that
they went way beyond any ice. He said that huge animals were seen, and even
some considered long extinct.

Mr. Cater was approached at one point, by a member of the expedition who
walked in, and they formed a friendship. This is how Mr. Cater knows.

Dharma/Dean

Hi Dean,

I've been a Cater fan for about 10 years. Around ~1990
I bought 3 copies of "The Awesome Lifeforce" because I
was so impressed with his work.

dean wrote:

Mr. Cater was approached at one point, by a member of the expedition who
walked in, and they formed a friendship. This is how Mr. Cater knows.

When you say "walked in" are you referring to a soul that took
over a body when someone else decided to leave that body? (i.e. a Walk In.)

Speaking of Byrd, I once had the following book that talked about Byrd
and his communications with the Inner Earth people. I think it mentions
the same thing mentioned earlier that they wished for the surface people
to stop using nuclear weapons.

"The missing diary of Admiral Richard E. Byrd" by Richard E. Byrd

You can get it from Amazon.com I think.

Jeff

I've been a Cater fan for about 10 years. Around ~1990
I bought 3 copies of "The Awesome Lifeforce" because I
was so impressed with his work.

Jeff,

It's great to have a knowledable Cater man aboard. Cater shows in the
Awesome life Force that he figured out the physics of a hollow planet, and
true physics period! The guy is smart as hell. But hardly anyone has heard
of him. It is this that shocks me.

dean wrote:
> Mr. Cater was approached at one point, by a member of the expedition who
> walked in, and they formed a friendship. This is how Mr. Cater knows.

When you say "walked in" are you referring to a soul that took
over a body when someone else decided to leave that body? (i.e. a Walk

In.)

Sorry for writing so fast. I meant to say that the guy Cater knew was a
member of Byrd's expedition, and that the guy walked into the inner Earth.
This guy said that Byrd went ahead with a few more people and stayed in for
six months.

Speaking of Byrd, I once had the following book that talked about Byrd
and his communications with the Inner Earth people. I think it mentions
the same thing mentioned earlier that they wished for the surface people
to stop using nuclear weapons.

"The missing diary of Admiral Richard E. Byrd" by Richard E. Byrd

You can get it from Amazon.com I think

I've heard that that diary is not reliable, and that the fellow who claims
to be Byrd's son or nephew, Harley Byrd, is not. But I don't know. It is
just what I have heard.

I do put a lot of stock in what Cater knows because he knew someone who was
with Byrd.

Keep in touch,

Dharma/Dean

Radar pictures recently taken of Venus show two almost perfectly round
depressions that are antipodes of each other. One has a diameter that is 40
percent as great as that of the planet itself. The other has a diameter
nearly 30 percent as great. Incredibly, these were explained away as being
impact craters. It is difficult to believe that even the scientific
community has any members of sufficient mental vacuity to endorse such an
explanation. Yet the author knows an honored member intimately who insists
this is what they are. As anyone who has even a modicum of intelligence
should realize, an impact crater will have a depth that is a reasonable
percentage of its diameter, especially if the missile does not bounce off
and sinks below the surface. An impact capable of producing a crater with
such a diameter would completely shatter even a solid planet. The impossible
coincidence that a planet would have two such craters nearly the exact
antipodes of each other has been cheerfully ignored.

The only possible explanation is that these "depressions" are giant
openings into the hollow interior. The energies being radiated from these
openings would deflect radar to the extent of creating the illusion of their
being shallow sinks. Venus, being closer to the sun and in full view of the
binary, would require much larger openings to dissipate the heat that would
build up in the interior.

Other claims by NASA with regard to Venus which are steeped in
con-tradictions are those of the dense clouds surrounding Venus consisting
of sulphuric acid, and that the surface temperature is about 1000� F. Early
pictures of Venusian terrain sent back by a probe which soft landed on the
surface show a landscape very similar to that of the earth or the Moon.
Rocks were shown with sharp edges and there was the usual evi-dence of
normal ground erosion. The type of erosion that would be pro-duced by a
combination of high concentrations of sulphuric acid and 1000� F would
reduce everything on the surface to a blob. The clouds on Venus undoubtedly
consist of a tremendous mantle of water vapor and droplets, which would
protect the surface and promote earthlike condi-tions.

List Members,

That Venus page on my site was a mess at the margins, and hard to read. It
fixed it up and added two more articles at the bottokm, reproductions
rather, from Cater and Marshall Gardner.

Check it out.

Dharma/Dean

http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index4.html

List Members,

I just sent this one off to Jan Lamprecht. He is a great hollow Earther, and
Cater's model has come to his attention. Hopefully, he will become a greater
hollow Earther.

He wrote:

Look at all the old "over-exposed" photos of Mars prior to the
NASA missions. You will see the "polar ice" standing higher far
higher than Mount Everest (many many times higher). The
astronomers used to say these are "overexposed" photos of Mars.
But there are tons of them. Maybe we should collect some of them
together. I personally wonder if those exceptionally high, billowing
clouds aren't for REAL and perhaps show extremely high pressures
of air billowing out of Mars? That being the case, you now have
meteorology AS PER my description of Mercury, Venus... One and
the same thing.

Jan,

I think that you interpreted the effects of billowing, in relation to Venus
and Mercury, perfectly. Just by focusing on the nature of the observations
and the terrain around the opening on Mercury, for example, you built a
strong case for an inner atmosphere.

In your book you gathered together the most extensive amount of
astronomical/planetary evidence, in one place, that I have seen to date. The
astronomical proof which you brought together is practically a water-tight
case. Those chapters on Venus and Mercury will become hollow planet
classics, for a long time to come. People will come back in a hundred years
and read those chapters, and marvel at what you were able to interpret. You
have already earned yourself a place in the Hollow Earth Hall of Fame just
for those chapters; they are the crest jewel of your book. And you perform
some unique yeoman service in the Arctic chapters, too.

But it would be nice to explain the cause of the physical processes which
are observed. I think that Cater understands the true nature of physics, and
can easily and cohesively able to explain any aspect of a hollow planet
geological process. For example, what triggers the billowing observed at the
openings, and what triggers an aurora? Cater explains HOW the particles from
the Sun penetrate the Earth's shell and build up in the inner cavity. From
the inner cavity, of course, they are always spewing out of the opening at
their normal rate of flow. Sunspot activity penetrates the shell all the
faster, such that the pressure builds up and the flow rate out of the
openings intensifies and causes the display. A person can't explain this
unless one knows how particles from the sun could possibly pass through the
Earth's shell. Of course, one has to go beyond standard physics in order to
understand all this. You seem to have such a bias in this regard.

I really wish that you would read Cater's book so that we could discuss his
physical model of a hollow planet. His model is one of the most serious
ones out there. In order to write your book you studied everything under the
Sun, your research was incredibly thorough. How is it that you never
familiarized yourself with one of the major models out there? The part of
your book where you discuss physical processes is precisely where you leave
your decisive tone of voice and begin to conjecture and wonder.

Run, don't walk, you know what I mean. The great ones begin to veer because
they become too high up to take reality checks, i.g., Lennon/Mc Cartney,
Freud/Jung, Elvis Presley.

> Now, going back to those MASSIVE DUST STORMS on Mars - the

ones which cover the entire planet.... well, if air is billowing out
under extremely high pressure (for whatever reason), then there
you have the cause of those tremendous dust storms which can
cover the entire surface of Mars for weeks... think about that.

Of course, but you still have to explain the cause, nature and strength of
Martian gravity, or else that Martian air would only billow out once. Even
Gardner talked about clouds congregating at the Martian polar opening. Where
are they supposed to originate from? It is implicit that if there are clouds
at antipodal polar openings that you have some flow.

I just did up a Mars article with some pictures which were mostly culled
from Anomalous Images ( Thank you Steve ). There are some interesting
pictures of the poles with clouds and such. You can grab those pictures,
they are Steve's, or rather, NASA's.

Bye for now,

Dean

I got this photo, which seems to be a photo of the Venusian pole, from
somebody without much comment.

Could that be the opening at top?

Dharma/Dean

An interesting Antartic photo.

Dharma/Dean

Another fantastic Antartic foto

From page 69 of The Awesome Life Force

Geologists and geophysicists are a bit vague when they discuss the forces
producing earth upheavals and the folding of strata to produce mountain
ranges. Their explanations for the forces causing continental drift are
equally tenuous, if they exist at all. [ If their explanations exist ] This
is understandable since they are dealing with phenomena completely beyond
the scope of present day theoretical physicists. It is apparent that
tremendous tensional and lateral forces are involved. There are high
concentrations of primarily soft, negative particles in adjacent strata and
fault lines. It will be shown Part III that soft particles are impregnated
with harder particles whose presence is not apparent, due to the
camouflaging and mitigating effects of the softer particles. When soft
particles penetrate matter, they carry hard particles with them. When soft
particles disintegrate, the hard particles are released. Therefore, most of
the great forces inside the earth's crust are the result of released hard
particles.

The concentration of negative charges, resulting from the penetration of
soft particles from the sun, and the radiation of the matter inside the Erth
combine to produce tensional forces. Such forces at work in the earth's
crust cause fractures and the sliding and folding of strata over each other.
The gravitational forces holding the earth in its orbit also induce stresses
in the crust, adding to these lateral forces.

Posted by Dean

I've got some new graphics up on my Venus page.

# : ^ )

Dharma/Dean

http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index4.html

TW,

It is a vedic concept that the planets are living entities. They are called
grahas in Sanskrit, points of influence. They have personified forms, the
predominating deity of the Earth is a cow named Bhoomi.

This can make sense, even to the Western mind, but for the Western mind to
accept, the scientific aspect has to be understood. The low frequency
photons, the cosmic rays, circulate throughout the interior of the planet.
These particles emanate from the openings to caverns and caves, and emanate
from the polar openings. In this role, they are called vayu, and direct the
wind patterns on the surface. These particles are the life breath of the
planet, and the rivers are its blood.

It doesn't make sense to me that God would create a lifeless, dead inert
lump for us to stomp around on. There are millions of microbes that feed on
our own body, yet we are living entities ourselves, going concerns. I feel
that this is the general scheme of things.

I don't what perspectives other scriptures give on this. Any volunteers?

Dharma/Dean

From the book 'Etidorhpa':

( In the Fungus Forest) ..........." These meandering caverns comprise
thousands of miles of surface covered by these growths which shall yet
fulfill a grand purpose in the economy of nature, for they are destined to
feed the tramping multitudes when the day appears in which the nations of
men united into one brotherhood will desert the surface of the earth and
pass as a single people to the immaculate existence to be found in the inner
sphere."

I wonder if the Guide of the book isn't making reference to a phenomena
which has already occurred on the surface of other planets. When I observe
the moon, I get the impression that the surface world of that globe got
pasted by particle beams, and I mean pasted!

Dharma/Dean

List Members,

on the onelight site, I found the heading " the catharians, giants of the
inner earth," to be particularly interesting.

Dharma/Dean

Rod,

My feelings about the opening are largely influenced by by Nansen, and I
pretty much accept your boundries as far as that side of things is
concerned.

It's just that I think the boundry might extend more towards Canada than
Amudsen's flight might have us believe. His dirgible flew over a stretch of
cloud cover, if my memory serves me well, and he could have been very close
to the neck. We can't say that the whole opening, curvature and all, was to
the Siberian side of him. So one could maybe drag it a bit more towards
Canada, but that's not a big, big point.

I think that everybody knows about where it is.

Dean