Here are some interesting points from Alex on the HE list about the behavior
of the aurora.
Dean
remember Dean,
there is nothing special about the Magnetic North pole geographically.
it happens to be a point where the magnetic field lines
intersect the surface of the earth. Somewhere deep inside is the pole.Example. I take a bar magnet, and put it inside a volleyball. The
magnetic pole of the volleyball will be on the surface of the ball.
However
if i put the same magnet inside a beachball, (much bigger), as long as
we could still measure the magnetism (however small it is), it will still
go into the ball at some point at the surface.I would argue that what ever the aurora is, it has to be going through the
surface,
however, I still can't explain why that fat part still behaves as it does.The magnetic pole is at 100W x 75 N. I'd argue, that to stay centered
around
that pole, there would be a 15 degree bias at night toward Texas at night,
(given a certain latitude, example 60 degrees north) and the opposite
would
be true at 80E longitude, the aurora would not go as far south.
But from what I've seen of the maps, it doesnt seem that way.hmmmm.....
I would disagree though with your path or least resistance argument.
With electromagnetic particles, they pretty much travel in a straightline,
unless affected by gravitational pull, or a reflection/refraction off of
something.Certainly light coming from the hole would be refracted, as would
particles,
but
at such a steep angle, would be staggering. Most aurora occur at
something
like
40 miles above the surface. The angle between where they come out of the
opening
and where they occur over (distance between the Arctic Ocean and lower
Canada for example),
and the elevation (45 miles), not to mention the curvature of the earth...
That would
be miraculous if it happened that way.-alex
From: dino <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2000 2:33 PM
Subject: [HollowEarth] - Opening and aurora>
>
> > I don't know.
> > Something about the geometry troubles me.
> > If the opening if offset, (toward siberia, correct?),
> > then as long as the particle stream OUT of the hole,
> > they will always have some kind of bias toward that side.
>
> It should, but as it comes out, there is something that attracts the
> particle stream towards the Magnetic North Pole and slides it over, at
> least, it seems to be that way.
> >
> > I agree that the solar wind (the streaming particles) blow the
> > magnetosphere into a tear drop, but in order to see that
> > fat part, I contend that the particles need to come through
> > the earth itself, and not through a hole.
>
> The particle stream could come out of the hole and then get
shunted/blown
> over. It only make sense that the particle stream is going to follow the
> path of least resistence, through the opening, rather than forcing
itself
> through solid shell. But the behavior of the stream is not really easily
> accounted for, I agree.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Remember that the magnetic north pole is somewhere in
> > northern canada, not near the opening.
> > Despite that, the thing still drifts...
> >
> >
> >
> > From: dino <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Cc: Frode <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 10:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: [HollowEarth] - The size of the opening
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Alex,
> > >
> > > I think that the behavior of the magnetosphere provides a clue. The
> > > magnetosphere gets " blown " back by the Sun's rays, barely able to
> retain
> > > its shape. That the fat part of the aurora gets blown to the far
side
> > seems
> > > to mimic the behavior of the magnetosphere.
> > >
> > > Cater talks of conglomerates of photons which bind together
> magnetically.
> > He
> > > says that these penetrate the Earth's shell, for the inner sun with
> their
> > > soft light, build up inside the cavity and are expelled through the
> > > openings. I don't think that they have been perceived yet by science
> > > that's putting it lightly ). If I am not mistaken, they have a
negative
> > > charge. Could this account for acceleration? Could these be the
> particles
> > > actually responsible for the auroral displays? Cater tells that the
> > > conglomerates contain, trapped inside of them, regular
electrons/regular
> > > light which we can see. Is it these that get liberated during
> > > disintegration?
> > >
> > > Do let me know what you think.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Alex Charyna <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 6:59 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [HollowEarth] - The size of the opening
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dean,
> > > > How do you rectify the aurora moving (rotationally) around the
world?
> > > >
> > > > http://sec.noaa.gov/pmap/index.html has current aurora maps for
any
> > > moment.
> > > > Interestingly enough, the "fat part" where the aurora is strongest
is
> > > ALWAYS
> > > > opposite high-noon (it's always at midnight). That's pretty clear
> from
> > > the
> > > > images of the satellite.
> > > >
> > > > Although we cannot se the aurora in the daylight because of
sunglare,
> > > > it can still be detected.
> > > >
> > > > As I am writing this, at 21:55 UTC, the fat part is over eastern
> > siberia,
> > > > and the pacific ocean between Tazmania and Antarctica.
> > > > But when I check back in 12 hours, it will be over Alaska, and the
> > > Antarctic
> > > > peninsula (or so).
> > > >
> > > > If the aurora come out through the opening, i would not expect it
to
> > move.
> > > > You could argue that the inner sun is moving somewhat (or the
earth,
> > > > depending on your perspective), but that would still not a account
for
> > > > aurora 180 deg off from the hole.
> > > >
> > > > Comments always welcome.....
> > > >
> > > > -alex
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: dino <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 1:49 PM
> > > > Subject: [HollowEarth] - The size of the opening
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > List members,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been re-considering the idea of a mini offset opening.
Not
so
> > > much
> > > > > the part about it being offset, but about it's being mini.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing that has prompted my thinking is this NASA study
> > > > >
> > > > > http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast09dec97
> > > > >
> > > > > which Rod has posted on his site, to the effect that the
positively
> > > > charged
> > > > > ions ( and what else? ) which cause the auroral display,
originate
> > from
> > > > the
> > > > > Earth and are not due to Solar winds, at least not so much. This
> means
> > > > that
> > > > > we can now confidently argue ( not just in closets ) the idea
that
> the
> > > > > aurorae oringinate in the hollow portion, as did the older
writers
> > such
> > > as
> > > > > Gardner.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cater argues that since the auroral display manifests in a
circle,
> > then
> > > > the
> > > > > radiations which cause it must be traveling through circular
> > resistence
> > > as
> > > > > they leave the inner Earth, too. Remember that the atmosphere
hugs
> the
> > > > Earth
> > > > > in a 45 mile band. This means that if the opening were 90 miles
or
> > less
> > > > wide
> > > > > at the neck, then the auroral display should shoot out in a
beam,
> the
> > > > > radiations encountering atmospheric resistence all of the way
> across.
> > > If
> > > > > the radiations don't, then that suggests that the opening is far
> > broader
> > > > at
> > > > > the neck, and that the atmosphere thins in the center, such that
the
> > > > > radiations emanating from the inner sun encounter no resistence
in
> the
> > > > > center, and don't disintegrate to our view as they speed out. A
> > curved,
> > > > > doughnut opening and thermal differences in atmospherics could
> account
> > > for
> > > > > diffration which spreads out the diameter of the display.
> > > > >
> > > > > The fact that we can now more freely consider that the inner sun
is
> > the
> > > > > source of the aurora is what allows us to conclude about the
width
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> > > > >
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