hummingbirdtyl wrote:
<< a pilot recently has discovered an ancient road (from the air) that runs
from the Newark mounds to New York! >>
I live in NYC and I think my city feels like a sacred place.
People flock here from everywhere like its a secular Mecca. This little
island attracts the smartest, the most intelligent, the most aggressive and
the most talented people on the planet to her.
The energy is incredible.
Laura
Laura,
My first thought when I read your post was this: If where you live
does not "feel" sacred then it is time to move. 
I truly believe
that all of Earth (inside and out) is sacred. You bring up a very very
interesting point, what is it that attracts people to flock to
certain places? Why are there so many in your city and other large
cities? Why there? I doubt very much that is just is New York City
yes, it's a wonderful place with so much made available to all, but
why did it originate there? Have you explored underground
possiblities? What draws the masses? (big grin) Now you've got me
pondering! I was just thinking today of Lake Erie and some of the
islands close to me... they are full of caverns and magnificent
wonders underground. Last year I visited an island called Put-In-Bay
that has a celestite cave,, the temperature inside that cave was in
the 80s and very humid... first cave I have broke a sweat in. It makes
me wonder what is under NYC and what really originally drew the people
there.
Thanks Laura, you've opened up a new highway for me!
MaTa
Hi Laura& Ma Ta,
I may be mistaken here, but I do believe there are underground tunnels running beneath NYC, and I think they may have been made public knowledge in the early 60's, or they were being used in the early 60's for apparent political meetings. Won't swear to it, someone else on the group may know better. I am sure Mike would know.
In Spirit, Leslee
astrocafe wrote:
<< I may be mistaken here, but I do believe there are underground tunnels
running beneath NYC, >>
I have also heard of the tunnels. I would be willing to investigate if I
could get someone to go with me.
It is not just hearsay - I read a piece in the NY Press (one of our giveaway
papers) about the so called "Mole People"; real people (druggies and the
mentally ill) who have made a life for themselves underground. Some of them
have electric hook ups with music and refrigerators and oriental rugs; actual
homes.
I remember reading that one tunnel was made from the Waldorf Hotel to Grand
Central Station so Vanderbillt and Astor wouldn't have to rub elbows with hoi
polloi. There is much more however, and I forget where I read it, but I
remember that there are supposedly many, many levels of unused tunnels built
long ago for mysterious reasons.
I read a novel, "Reliquary", which featured this subject. The heroes entered
through the basement of the NY Public Library and traveled way under Central
Park to do whatever they had to do.
There was once a TV show about some lion looking guy who lived in the tunnels
(it starred Linda Hamilton).
The second Superman movie had Gene Hackman as a criminal living with Valerie
Perrine under Grand Central Station.
That's all I know - I would love to find out more.
Laura
Laura wrote:
<I have also heard of the tunnels. I would be willing to investigate if I
could get someone to go with me.
It is not just hearsay - I read a piece in the NY Press (one of our giveaway
papers) about the so called "Mole People"; real people (druggies and the
mentally ill) who have made a life for themselves underground. Some of them
have electric hook ups with music and refrigerators and oriental rugs; actual
homes.>
<I remember reading that one tunnel was made from the Waldorf Hotel to Grand
Central Station so Vanderbillt and Astor wouldn't have to rub elbows with hoi
polloi. There is much more however, and I forget where I read it, but I
remember that there are supposedly many, many levels of unused tunnels built
long ago for mysterious reasons.>
<I read a novel, "Reliquary", which featured this subject. The heroes entered
through the basement of the NY Public Library and traveled way under Central
Park to do whatever they had to do.>
<There was once a TV show about some lion looking guy who lived in the tunnels
(it starred Linda Hamilton).>
<The second Superman movie had Gene Hackman as a criminal living with Valerie
Perrine under Grand Central Station.>
<That's all I know - I would love to find out more.>
****Hi Laura,
*****This may be off-topic, but then again, maybe not. If memory serves me correctly the original tunnels were used by the Illuminati. In the early 60's it is rumored that the heads of the different bloodlines met beneath NYC to determine the fate of President Kennedy since he was not too keen on involvement in the Viet Nam war. I think this is written in the book: Holy Blood, Holy Grail? Now, if this rumor were to be true, and I am not imagining it, would it not surmise then that there just may be a way into the HE from underground NYC? Entrance for the Illuminati in one of those old closed off tunnels?
Anything is possible, but if you go into the tunnels you be careful!
Leslee
I heard about this from two social workers from a Manhattan homeless
shelter. These 'mole people' go out only in night to get some food from
trash
cans. Rat life.
In some subway stations one can see through the floor lattices lower
corridors with air coming out.
Jan
tunnels running beneath NYC, and I think they may have been
made public knowledge in the early 60's, or they were being
used in the early 60's for apparent political meetings. Won't
swear to it, someone else on the group may know better. I am
sure Mike would know.
Yes, there are many alleged tunnels, and quite a few verified
ones. I have a copy of Geographic somewhere, which shows
the depths and complexity of the man-made, NYC-controlled
high-tech tunnels, which go down in places for hundreds of feet!
I've also seen this on a few of the "modern marvel" type
television programs.
NYC has always been rumored to sit atop ancient tunnels,
though, and the usual conspiracy theories abound about
unfinished or abandoned subway tunnels, hidden subterranean
societies, non-humans, etc. A fiction story which may have
influenced this lore was entitled "Far Below," published in Weird
Tales magazine many decades ago (by Robert Barbour
Johnson, June-July, 1939), and which was essentially imitated
in a recent episode of the TV series "Freaky Links," that featured
cannibalistic, mutated subterranean humanoids living in
forgotten tunnels beneath the NYC subway system.
I spoke with a woman who claimed that as a child, she had
known of ancient tunnels running from the seashore at Montauk,
and up through Long Island. She said that these continued on
into Manhattan. I don't know how accurate her information is,
however. She recalled as a child seeing an "ancient door,"
bolted and made of metal, in a cliff or bluff of sorts which faced
the sea, and which had railroad tracks running up to it. She said
that when she looked for it decades later, it couldn't be found.
--Mike
Mike Maloney,
Any way that you could investigate this?
Dharma/Dean
Members,
In chapter six of The Ultimate Reality, Joseph H Cater indicates the
source and path of the charged particles and light which causes the
aurora.
" The diameter of the ring becomes greater during auroral displays.
this is the result of greater discharges from the sun which penetrate
the Earth´s shell in greater numbers. A higher rate of particle
accumulation in the Earth´s center will result, with a consequent
higher radiation through the openings."
Mr Cater goes on, but the point is that he speaks of a soft particle
penetration through the shell of the Earth, not that charged
electrons of some type flow through the opening somehow, and then
back out.
Science recognizes that neutrinos pass through the Earth, and some of
the cosmic rays, but these are particles which they don´t understand
very well. These particles are probably none other than soft
particles.
Soft particles are particles which form from a basis of photon
particles, and which acquire lower frequencies and pass through the
Earth´s shell. They accumulate in the hollow cavity.
Mr. Cater explains that these particles flow out through the
openings, being pushed by the accumulation from within. When there is
a heavy accumulation due to sunspot activity, the flow of soft
particles through the opening increases, and so does the friction
with the atmosphere. For this reason, the soft particles break up
into their constituent photons, and this light forms the auroral
display.
They also release the hard particles within when they break up. This
explains why geophysicists find charged electrons at the scene of an
auroral display, and why they have been duped into thinking that it
is an in-rush of charged particles from the solar winds ( or magnetic
bottles ) which causes the display. What else can they conclude? They
don´t know that the Earth is hollow, nor have they any idea of soft
particles.
The Ultimate Reality:
http://www.healthresearchbooks.com/Authors/joseph_cater.htm
I'll go along with that.
DD
Don't forget, rats sometimes bite.
--M.