MSN Messenger and Hotmail Users Beware

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All your data (and biz plans) are belong to Microsoft By: Andrew
Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 30/03/2001 at 15:07 GMT

With Microsoft's HailStorm .NET initiative hinging on the company's
very own PassPort service, you'd think Redmond would be bending
over backwards to stress the confidentially of user information.

Well, if that's the case, it hasn't started yet.

The current Passport Terms of Use agreement not only fails to
guarantee confidentially, but actually gives Microsoft and its
business partners the right to own your information, and do pretty
much what they want with it. That encompasses all your Hotmail and
MSN Messenger communications today.

As the Terms state:

"By posting messages, uploading files, inputting data, submitting any
feedback or suggestions, or engaging in any
other form of communication with or through the Passport Web Site ...
you are granting
Microsoft and its affiliated companies permission to:

1. Use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display,
publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create derivative
works from, transfer, or sell any such communication.

2. Sublicense to third parties the unrestricted right to exercise
any of the foregoing rights granted with respect to the communication.

3. Publish your name in connection with any such communication."

And it doesn't stop there. Are you emailing a contact about a hot
idea or business plan of your own? Hand that over, too:

The foregoing grants shall include the right to exploit any
proprietary rights in such communication, including but not
limited to rights under copyright, trademark, service mark or
patent laws under any relevant jurisdiction. No compensation
will be paid with respect to Microsoft's use of the materials
contained within such communication.

After the eFront debacle, we're baffled why anyone would want to
trust confidential communications to any of the big IM services, let
alone MSN Messenger.

Apple originally launched its iDisk service with a similar landgrab,
but was quickly forced to retreat.

As reader Ken points out, 'All Your Data Belong To Us'. He's not
kidding. �

Related Link
PassPort Terms of Use

Related Stories
Pay-to-Play: Microsoft erects .NET tollgate Sun, AOL take MS HailStorm
to the Feds MS ID number system could track all Windows users Microsoft
confirms Web site blackout

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/18002.html

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] MSN Messenger and Hotmail
User
Jan... from Dick Fojut in Tucson...

Have something to add to
the revelation below, if you aren't already aware, that was revealed
last year by SHERMAN SKOLNICK about the Internet being
"controlled" from its start by the CIA.*

Skolnick is the
"famous" paraplegic political investigator in Chicago, Illinois,
who also has a popular Chicago area Public Access weekly TV
program. Since the 1950s Skolnick has exposed, with solid proofs,
every local and most of the major national crooks and criminal scams
infecting American society.

No matter whether
they are right or left, Democrat or Republican, in government,
organized crime, banking, the courts or corrupt private businesses,
or whatever, Skolnick has exposed the dirt about them ALL. (Why he
hasn't been assassinated before now amazes me.)

Patriotic Whistle
Blowers in government and every other walk of life, regularly snitch
to him and provide him with evidence, knowing their identities will
remain secret with Skolnick. (His website is the following)...

http://skolnicksreport.com/

  • Last year Skolnick
    revealed on Cable TV, on his website and through mass Emails,
    tha    t since the start of the world INTERNET, America's CIA,
    behind the scene, has owned and controlled the (then) 2 major
    companies awarding .com, .org, etc., addresses for websites    . At
    any time the CIA desired, it could successfully pressure ANY internet
    provider no matter how big, to drop websites that displeased the CIA
    or government. They did just that during the bombing of Serbia to
    the respected "VENIK AIRCRAFT OF THE WORLD" website    . The
    Venik site, from world sources, provided more accurate figures of the
    NATO and Sertbian aircraft losses than our government manipulated
    national media. Venik was bounced by internet provider after internet
    provider. He then moved from one foreign provider after another until
    the current provider he is found at:
    http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/082499/aviation/index.htm

But I won't be surprised if that one will soon change
again.

What was Venik's
crime? On his daily updated website during the Serbian bombing
campaign, Venik reported the well OVER 100 NATO planes, manned and
guided, that were shot down, including TWO of our Stealth bombers,
not just the one reported by our media (That is the reason NATO
bombers seldom dropped below 15,000 feet!). And several NATO rescue
helicopters (sent to rescue downed NATO pilots), were also shot down,
killing all the British or American squads on board. Obviously, that
was NOT the kind of news our Wag the Dog President or Blair, wanted
the American and British people to hear about! Shocking stuff!

I've just
been to Skolnick's website and his limited "archives" and no
longer can find the specific URL for the CIA expose. But it MAY
still be found on JEFF RENSE'S website news archives (which are
extensive). Jeff has frequently reprinted Skolnick's articles. Also,
though I can't recall which just now, I think there are a few other
websites also carrying Skolnick's past articles. Rense's website is:
http://www.sightings.com/ I haven't checked Rense's archives
yet.

There
seem to be MANY companies now registering websites, so maybe
the CIA's former influence has diminished. Or are the new ones really
independent? I'm suspicious.

  • Dick
    Fojut in Tucson
···

(Jan's Email).....

All your data (and biz plans) are belong
to Microsoft By: Andrew
Orlowski in San Francisco

Posted: 30/03/2001 at 15:07 GMT

With Microsoft's HailStorm .NET initiative hinging on the
company's

very own PassPort service, you'd think Redmond would be bending

over backwards to stress the confidentially of user information.

Well, if that's the case, it hasn't started yet.

The current Passport Terms of Use agreement not only fails to

guarantee confidentially, but actually gives Microsoft and its

business partners the right to own your information, and do
pretty
much what they want with it. That
encompasses all your Hotmail and

MSN Messenger communications today.

As the Terms state:

"By posting messages, uploading files, inputting data,
submitting any

feedback or suggestions, or engaging in any

other form of communication with or through the Passport Web Site
...

you are granting

Microsoft and its affiliated companies permission to:

  1. Use, modify, copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display,

publicly perform, reproduce, publish, sublicense, create
derivative

works from, transfer, or sell any such communication.
2. Sublicense to third parties the
unrestricted right to exercise

any of the foregoing rights granted with respect to the
communication.

  1. Publish your name in connection with any such
    communication."

And it doesn't stop there. Are you emailing a contact about a hot

idea or business plan of your own? Hand that over, too:

The foregoing grants shall include the right to exploit any

proprietary rights in such communication, including but not

limited to rights under copyright, trademark, service mark or

patent laws under any relevant jurisdiction. No compensation

will be paid with respect to Microsoft's use of the materials

contained within such communication.

After the eFront debacle, we're baffled why anyone would want to

trust confidential communications to any of the big IM services,
let

alone MSN Messenger.

Apple originally launched its iDisk service with a similar
landgrab,

but was quickly forced to retreat.

As reader Ken points out, 'All Your Data Belong To Us'. He's not

kidding. �

Related Link

PassPort Terms of Use

Related Stories

Pay-to-Play: Microsoft erects .NET tollgate Sun, AOL take MS
HailStorm

to the Feds MS ID number system could track all Windows users
Microsoft

confirms Web site blackout

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