Moon or no Moon

Re: [HollowPlanets] Spirits of the Ice Forest
Blake and everyone,

I think that I should make a point or two about my feelings on the Apollo landings. Actually, I imagine that they went. I just don't think that the LEM landed the way they said, nor that the LEM went, period.

I think that they went in some type of UFO craft and faked the " Eagle has landed " part. 10 years ago I would have thought that such an idea was crazy, but I have come across quite a bit about UFO recovery and back engineering, not even counting Roswell. It makes sense. It would have been hard for that craft to land and not tip over- Niel Armstrong took is sideways by manual control for 16 seconds while his vision was clouded over by the dust kicked up by the exhaust.

I have seen photographs which seem like the real Mc Coy. I even posted one a long time ago on my site, of the horizon at sunset on the Moon. The glare of the sunset on the horizon is visible: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index10.html ( Second one down )

At the same time, I feel that the photos in relation to the Lunar Excursion Model and the lunar buggy are studio jobs. To make a long story short, they wanted to check out the Moon before they could reveal that they had the technology to go there.

Is this such a wacko idea.

I am open to reality checks.

Dean

--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:

Is this such a wacko idea.

I am open to reality checks.

Dean

I think this may be close to the truth.

I myself have examined this to some depth in the past, and
ended up quite satisfied that the moon landings were legitimate
and did occur. In fact, if a cover-up exists, I believe it revolves
around WHY we went, and WHAT we found there. Evidence
would indicate that the astronauts not only went, but they have
made statements at different times to indicate that they "weren't
alone," either in transit or on the moon.

Your question about the flare or glare that you posted on this list
could be explained by both the curvature of the camera lens, and
the actual air in the camera, under the right conditions.
Remember, the surface temperature on the moon, with no
protective atmosphere, is very high in the sunlight. The
atmosphere within the camera itself might react to this outer
heat in some way.

Other questions, such as the dark sky/no stars, are equally as
easy to explain. After using all manner of cameras for many
years, I can vouch for the fact that brilliant, undliluted glare and
multiple reflections of same from landscape features (which
caused the multiple shadows, an effect I've seen with a flash
many times in a smaller environment) would cause the tiny star
lights in the sky to be invisible in the pictures. This is the same
phenomenon that occurs when you stand outside of your house
at noon, and can't see a candle lit on the table by looking through
the window from a few yards away. And so on.

I think that your latest take is probably closer to whatever the truth
might be. I believe that they went to the moon, but I'm not sure
that we got the whole scoop on what they found there....Or what
found them.

--Mike

Re: [HollowPlanets] Spirits of the Ice Forest
Olaf Jansen's description is the only description that we have of the hollow Earth. Tibetan folklore talks about a resplendent Shambhalla, but their idea has been passed down for centuries now, I mean to say that they have probably been out of contact for a long, long time, and there are no actual descriptions. The tall, healthy and " glowing " nature of the occupants can be attributed to the soft particle/prana atmosphere and the lack of harmful radiation. On the surface, we are just subject to the radiations which come our way. The soft particles which make up the inner sun have a lower frequency- thanks to the process of redistribution of frequency, they would have to be lower- and consequently, are less harmful.

Olaf's description: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index2.html

The bank of the river, covered with mammoth trees, rose up several hundred feet in beautiful fashion. We seemed to be on the edge of some primeval forest that doubtless stretched far inland. The immence craft paused, and almost immediately a boat was lowered and six men of gigantic stature rowed to our little fishing-sloop. They spoke to us in a strange language. We knew from their manner, however, that they were not unfriendly. They talked a great deal among themselves, and one of them laughed immoderately, as though in finding us a queer discovery had been made. One of them spied our compass, and it seemed to interest them more than any other part of our sloop. Finally, the leader motioned as if to ask whether we were willing to leave our craft to go on board their ship. "What say you, my son?" asked my father. "They cannot do any more than kill us." "They seem to be kindly disposed," I replied, "although what terrible giants! They must be the select six of the kingdom's crack regiment. Just look at their great size." "We may as well go willingly as be taken by force," said my father, smiling, "for they are certainly able to capture us." Thereupon he made known, by signs, that we were ready to accompany them. Within a few minutes we were on board the ship, and half an hour later our little fishing-craft had been lifted bodily out of the water by a strange sort of hook and tackle, and set on board as a curiousity. There were several hundred people on board this, to us, mammoth ship, which we discovered was called "The Naz," meaning, as we afterward learned, "Pleasure," or to give a more proper interpretation, "Pleasure Excursion" ship. If my father and I were curiously observed by the ship's occupants, this strange race of giants offered us an equal amount of wonderment. There was not a single man aboard who would not have measured fully twelve feet in height. They all wore full beards, not particularly long, but seemingly short-cropped. They had mild and beautiful faces, exceedingly fair, with ruddy complexions. The hair and beard of some were black, others sandy, and still others yellow. The captain, as we designated the dignitary in command of the great vessel, was fully a head taller than any of his companions. The women averaged from ten to eleven feet in height. Their features were especially regular and refined, while their complexion was of a most delicate tint heightened by a healthful glow

Dharma/Dean

Re: [HollowPlanets] Spirits of the Ice Forest

Both men and women seemed to possess that particular case of manner which we deem a sign of good breeding, and, notwithstanding their huge statures, there was nothing about them suggesting awkwardness. As I was a lad in only my nineteenth year, I was doubtless looked upon as a true Tom Thumb. My father's six feet three did not lift the top of his head above the waist line of these people. Each one seemed to vie with the others in extending courtesies and showing kindness to us, but all laughed heartly, I remember, when they had to improvise chairs for my father and myself to sit at table. They were richly attired in a costume peculiar to themselves, and very attractive. The men were clothed in handsomely embroidered tunics of silk and satin and belted at the waist. They wore knee-breeches and stockings of a fine texture, while their feet were encased in sandals adorned with gold buckles. We early discovered that gold was one of the most common metals known, and that it was used extensively in decoration. Strange as it may seem, neither my father nor myself felt the least bit of solicitude for our safety. "We have come into our own," my father said to me. "This is the fulfillment of the tradition told me by my father and my father's father, and still back for many generations of our race. This is, assurely, the land beyond the North Wind."

List Members- Olaf's dad is saying that there is something to those old, viking legends.

DD