Libertarian HET Political discussion

Thank you for those of you who replied. Many of you more eloquently fit my intent well into this frame of reference. To all woh feel they missed something, do not worry it was not much. I was merely replying to an e-mail thread regarding the NASA moon landings. The discussion had gone on so long swaying first one way and than another, and I felt I had to ask of the posters and readers of this list, whether they had actually had a hand in any and all practical matters to once and for all get to the bottom of the issue, instead of merely hypothesizing and bandying about various links to further deepen the mystery. My query was whether or not people saw there vote as an empowering tool to do that, and whether they recognized the unique position that the Libertarian Party was offering. That of the elimination of most governmental bureaucracies and thus most of the obstacles in our way. They are as suspicious of the government as we all are, andno one has our individual freedom more in mind than them. I feel that they haven't gotten nearly the exposure that they should have in the last election, and even Art Bell who is a self-proclaimed Libertarian has not done nearly enough to propogate there cause. I know he was retired throughout most of the election, but certainly not all of it. He has one of the largest audiences out there, and to do the show he does every night, and not ever give them mention I think is remiss. And as many of the readers and posters to this list are alos listeners I thought I would link the two worlds. We are in a unique position, and we need all the help we can get. It is my belief thatin the political sphere we have no better advocates than this party, and it is my sincerest hope that you will all at least find out more about them, and help spread the word. In my mind if we are serious about finding out about the HE, then this cannot be divorced from HET discussions.

Thank you from the soapbox,
-Eric

I observed as we walked along its edge that the shore of the lake was
precipitous in places, again formed a gradually descending beach, and the
dead silence of the space about us, in connection with the death-like
stillness of that rigid mass of water and its surroundings, became
increasingly impressive and awe-inspiring. Never before had I seen such a
perfectly quiet glass-like surface. Not a vibration or undulation appeared
in any direction. The solidity of steel was exemplified in its steady,
apparently inflexible contour, and yet the pure element was so transparent
that the bottom of the pool was as clearly defined as the top of the cavern
above me. The lights and shades of the familiar lakes of Western New York
were wanting here, and it suddenly came to my mind that there were surface
reflections, but no shadows, and musing on this extraordinary fact, I stood
motionless on a jutting cliff absorbed in meditation, abstractedly gazing
down into that transparent depth. Without sun or moon, without apparent
source of light, and yet perfectly illuminated, the lofty caverns seemed cut
by that aqueous plane into two sections, one above and one below a
transparent, rigid surface line. The dividing line, or horizontal plane,
appeared as much a surface of air as a surface of water, and the material
above that plane seemed no more nor less a gas, or liquid, than that beneath
it. If two limpid, transparent liquids, imniiscible, but of different
gravities, be poured into the same vessel, the line of demarkation will be
as a brilliant mirror, such as I now beheld parting and yet uniting the
surfaces of air and water.

Lost in contemplation, I unconsciously asked the mental question
" Where are the shadows?"

My guide replied:
" You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that
is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed from
within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of
illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know, is neither
transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous
center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the
lake are illuminated alike from all sides, there can be no shadows."

Musingly, I said:
" That which has occurred before in this journey to the unknown country of
which I have been advised, seemed mysterious; but each succeeding step
discovers to me another novelty that is snore mysterious, with unlooked-for
phenomena that are more obscure."

" This phenomenon is not more of a mystery than is the fact that light
radiates from the sun. Man can not explain that, and I shall not now attempt
to explain this. Both conditions are attributes of force, but with this
distinction- the crude light and heat of the sun, such as men experience on
the surface of the earth, is here refined and softened, and the
characteristic glare and harshness of the light that is known to those who
live on the earth's surface is absent here. The solar ray, after penetrating
the earth's crust, is tempered and refined by agencies which than will yet
investigate understandingly, but which he can not now comprehend."

Members,

Here, in the book Etidorhpa, the phenomenon of " Earth-bred " light is
depicted. This phenomenon is accounted for in Joseph H. Cater's book The
Ultimate Reality. The idea is that soft particles penetrate the Earth's
shell, but that the more unstable of them break up into their constituent
bands of light, including light visible to humans. This ocurrs gradually,
such that the light begins to manifest little by little, acording to depth
penetrated. Of course, since there is no single source, such as a lamp or
disk, there are no shadows. The light simply manifests in an omnipresent
way.

Etidorhpa: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index13.html

Dharma/Dean