Dean and others
Have you investigated the following links?
Interesting Emails Regarding Our Hollow Earth
Dean D wrote:
List members,
This was an interview by Dennis Crenshaw with Dr. Hank Krastman, done way
back in 1994.
Dean
JOURNEY TO PALATKWAPI
From: THE HOLLOW EARTH INSIDER, Vol. 2, No. 5: [Exclusive Interview with Dr.
Hank Krastman Ph.D] Dr. Hank Krastman has spent the last 23 years
researching and reporting on the Earth's Ley Lines, Vortexes, Men in Black,
Crystals and Crystal Skulls and Hopi entrances to the Inner Earth. He has
written and published many books and videos on these and other subjects, and
until recently published UNEXPLAINED magazine. His continuing work will soon
be found in INTERNATIONAL UFO LIBRARY magazine.
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Dennis: Dr. Krastman, how did you become involved in your research,
particularly in your study of the Hopi Indians and the Inner Earth?
Hank: Please call me Hank. In 1961, while attending classes at the
University of Northern Arizona I met a young, blue eyes, blond headed fellow
student named Karl Kopavi Waltz [of the Waltz clan of the Hopi nation].
Through conversation I learned that he was a Hopi Indian with a Dutch
ancestor and was planning on becoming a teacher.
The name "Karl Waltz" came from his Great Great Grandfather "Jacob Waltz"
who, was from Holland. As I was also from Holland this became our bond. I
learned that Jacob Waltz was well known to western history buffs as the
"lost Dutchman," holder of the secret of The Lost Dutchman Mine in Arizona's
Superstition Mountains. I will go into this in detail in my upcoming book
"Kopavi," but in 1875 at the age of 65, Jacob married a 16 year old Hopi
girl who was named -- because of her light complexion and blue eyes -- MUHA,
the "Fire One."
Kopavi and I became close friends and as time went on he told me many things
that made such good sense that I wanted to know more. One of the most
fascinating things he told me was the real secret of "The Lost Dutchman
Mine."
Kopavi told me that his grandmother had told him that his Great Great
Grandfather, Jacob Waltz had lived with the Pima Indians at the Superstition
Mountains. The Indians grew to trust the 64 year old Dutchman and since the
Pima's were not allowed to enter the sacred entrances to the underground,
they asked him to take sacks of salt to the underground people. Salt is
scarce in the inner world and gold is not. Jacob in turn would receive sacks
of gold as his reward.
Dennis: So the "Lost Dutchman Mine" never existed?
Hank: That's right. It's actually an entrance to the inner lands and, as I
learned later, just one of many entrances found around the world. I also was
amazed to learn that Kopavi was actually from the underground city of
PALATKWAPI.
One day Kopavi asked if I'd like to actually see an entrance to the
underground... I was thrilled.
[Note: the Hopis, and Cherokee believe that the Pueblo Indians had in the
most ancient times taken up residence within an underground 'cavern' world
and after a long period of time emerged once again onto the surface. Some
say that reptilian humanoids drove them to the surface, other versions state
that some of the underground Hopi turned to practicing sorcery and made
things bad for the rest, while other versions state that an underground
'flood' forced them to seek refuge topside. Some versions say that they
emerged through a cavern, other through a mound, and still other versions
state that the portal of emergence, the sipapu or sipapuni, lies hidden
under a pool of yellowish water. Most of the Hopi versions however agree
with the LOCATION of the sipapu... somewhere along the Little Colorado
River, a 'short' ways upstream from its confluence with the Colorado River.
The sipapu is considered one of the most sacred sites of the Hopi people. -
Branton]
First we went to the Grand Canyon where we hired two donkeys. Karl assured
me [that] the donkeys were sure-footed, but I wasn't so sure once we started
to climb, the trail became small and full of rocks and from time to time I
could feel the donkeys hind legs slip on the smooth, loose slate. All I
could do was hold on and try to shut out the sound of loosened rock as it
clattered down the cliff side to the ground below. Finally we came to a wide
spot on the trail and I was able to breath again. We took our breather on a
small plateau from which the panoramic view of the Grand Canyon spread out
below displaying the rich earth colors found only in the American southwest.
Karl brought out a blindfold and explained that, while he had secured
permission from the Council of Nine for me to enter these sacred grounds, he
had been requested to cover my eyes from here on out. The rest of the ride
into the Canyon was terrifying to say the least. How much time had passed I
did not know, I was too busy hanging on to the saddle of the small brave
beast.
After what seemed to be an eternity, we came to a stop and Karl removed my
blindfold. As my eyes adjusted to the bright sunlight again, I looked around
me. We were in a large clearing flush against the canyon wall. Karl motioned
for me to climb down from my now, uncomfortable perch, as he did the same.
After stretching my tensed up body I turned to Karl who was standing next to
the sheet cliff wall. "Put your hand against the wall right here," he said
pointing to the solid rock face. I did as he asked, and my hand didn't stop.
It continued right through the wall. It seemed that the cliff wall was only
a created illusion to keep unwanted people away. Actually it was the
entrance to a large secret cave called "PUPOVI." As we walked inside I was
amazed to find the cave was brightly lit. Before us was a sort of escalator
type device which you lay down on. There was some sort of transparent bubble
which covered you called a HAWIOVI. My heart was beating fast, so I stood
looking at this strange sight as I caught my breath.
Now I have a confession to make. For years I have been telling people that
this is as far as I went. I lied. I was told not to reveal anymore than
this. However, I have now been given permission to tell the rest of the
story. Actually, I did proceed from this point all the way into the
underground Hopi city of PALATKWAPI. I am putting the whole story in a book
to be entitled "KOPAVI," which I am currently working on.
Dennis: Wow! This is quite a revelation. So you took this Hawiovi to
Palatkwapi?
Hank: Only part of the way. At the bottom of the escalator, which travels at
the speed of light, we boarded a PATUWVOTA or flying machine which moved
through subterranean tunnels on energy fields. I will go into detail about
all of this in my book.
Dennis: Yes, I realize that your time is almost up and you have another
engagement. But, can you answer a few more questions?
Hank: I do have to go... but yes I'll answer a few.
Dennis: Upon exiting the PATUWVOTA what did you see?
Hank: We first went into a large cave room called the PUSIVI and my friend
and guide said, "Welcome to TUWANASAVI, the center of the world." The large
room had many doors all around with strange markings on them. Karl explained
that the doors were an added precaution, in case an unauthorized person
penetrated the area they wouldn't know which door leads to the city. I
understood without him saying anything that you didn't want to open the
wrong door [could be this, or could be that this was an underground
'intersection' to different realms. IF however one happened to make it that
far, I would suggest nonetheless that extreme caution would be advised -
Branton]. Karl walked up to one of the doors, placed his hand over a symbol
in the center and we entered a clean white room with a light purple glow
called the POWAMU WUWUCHPI or purification room where all the negativities
and bacteria were removed from our bodies, both outside and inside. Only
then could we enter the city of Palatkwapi.
Dennis: There is so much I want to ask. I don't know where to start. Is
Palatkwapi located inside the subterranean world of tunnels or is it located
on the underside of the mantle, or the inner-world?
Hank: It is located on the surface of the inner-world.
Dennis: What color was the sky? Was it red?
Hank: No. The sky is a beautiful blue, no clouds and the sun was stationary
in the sky. The air was the freshest I'd breathed.
Dennis: Can you describe what the city looks like?
Hank: Sure. The houses were all built in the Greek style with columns and
red tile roofs. The rooms are all open and airy with no glass in the open
windows. There are gardens with bright blooming flowers and plants
everywhere. It is very quiet, other than the soft rush of wind which was
constant. I learned this wind is called APONIVI and is pulled in from the
North and South polar openings by machines which are powered by the inner
sun, then blown back through tunnels to the surface of the earth in hundreds
of places. This system was designed to compensate for the gravitational pull
and centrifugal force of the earth and the heat of the sun in order to
maintain the gravity and a constant temperature of 76 degrees.
-- end of email --
Comments by Rodney M. Cluff:
We have since learned that Hank, while in our hollow earth fell in love with
a hollow earth girl, whom he said was a very beautiful woman. In fact, Hank
said that the women of the hollow earth are so beautiful that any single man
could not help but fall in love with them. He wanted to marry her, but
decided he wanted to go back to the surface world to get some personal
belongings. So his Hopi friend took him back to the surface and told him
that when he returned to the Grand Canyon, to just yell out his name and he
would come get him. But when Hank returned with his belongings to the Grand
Canyon and yelled out his friend's name, his friend never came. Hank was so
disappointed that he didn't marry until his 70's. He has now retired and
moved to the Philippines.
Another interesting side-line on this story, is from Billie Woodard. Before
I learned of this story of Hank Krastman, Billie told me that one time that
he had gone back to visit his step-parent's home in Apache Junction, that he
was visiting with one of the Indian Elders when the Elder invited him to go
for a walk up on the Superstition Mountains. After walking clear into the
evening and even after sun-down, Billie was so tired he was ready to drop,
when the Indian Elder said, "Wait here." The Elder then went on ahead and
soon came back and said, "Let's go." They then walked a short distance up
this canyon and came up to the canyon wall, and just walked right into the
canyon wall. A holographic image of the canyon wall was hiding the cavern
entrance.
It was the Lost Dutchman cavern where many years ago the Lost Dutchman would
enter with his donkeys loaded with salt to take to a cavern city of people
living within the shell of the earth, which they paid for with gold. Billie
followed the Indian Elder further into the cavern and came to a cavern room
filled with cubes of gold, each about 4"x4"x4" in size. After examining the
gold, they returned to Apache Junction.
When I told Billie about Hank's story, Billie said he had never heard it
before, and wanted to speak with Hank. So I put them in contact with each
other. Billie later told me that he gave Hank a tip for locating one of
these camouflaged entrances: To take a compass and if you manage to get in
the proximity of the entrance, the compass needle with start to spin. Hank
thanked Billie for the tip.
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Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
([email protected]) on Wednesday, July 29, 2009 at 07:07:25
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HollowEarthNewsletter_Name: Patrick
comments: Hello Friend of the Truth !
I read your site and its very nice and informative, most of the stuff i
already known.
I looked for more infos about the shown "german letter of u 209" and i found
some infos in an german submarine archive :
The u 209 sub is missed since 07.05.1943:
Aus unbekannter Ursache verlorengegangen
"missed in unknown reasons"
the last operation-area was
"Operationsgebiet: Nordatlantik südlich von Island und südöstlich von
Grönland
07.05.1943 Verlust des Bootes"
north-atlantic, south of iceland and south-east of greenland
Position:(52°00'N-38°00'W)
the commander was Mr. Heinrich Brodda, like you said too.
There are 4 years between last contact and the letter from mexico.
the letter is dated on 20.04 - the birthday of hitler. Its courios and i
think its real. Like the radio-call which was received by british army "our
submarines found an paradise"
I know that the earth is hollow, i said i KNOW, not i believe.
My Grandfather war in german marine too, he is missed too, no one knows for
what reason, like other dozens of german subs.
I'm 36, i never met him. But i dream very often of him, my whole life. He
grows older in any dream i have, slowly but older.
He talk to me in my dreams since i was an little boy, he told me that he
isn't dead, he told me that he lives inside the earth.
Believe it, or not. its real, i'm not joking or i ain't a gracy idiot.
My live i'm searching for the truth about it, i was in india an talked to an
guru bevore dome years, he showed me the entry to hollow earth and he told
me that there is an labyrinth in this cave, wich isn't easy to get. He told
me that there are barries inside, magical barries, wich cant "get troght" by
anyone, only the ones which true heart can get inside.
He said there was an guru that lived in the 1930, and at the age of 60 he
was going inside this cave and he came out in the year 2001 - not older then
before. Its an "wonder" or miracle in india, but i forget his name.
He comes back to leave a message for mankind, like thousand messiahs before
him, like byrd and others and he get back to inner earth.
Ich will go back to india next year, i will go in this gave and i will find
the way throught it. Im free at heart, im mixture from christian and buddism
and i understand the messages of the old ones, of the gods.
Thanks for your work, and sorry for my bad english, i never learned it in
school, i ever understand it like the most languages too. don't know why,
there is much stuff i don't know.
but i will find it, that's the reason why i'm here.
Dianne Robbins wrote:
Rod,
I thought you might want to contact this person...........Dianne
Joe wrote:
Hi, I have in my possession a copy of a letter written on 2 March 1985
from a gentleman named Karl Unger to Mr. Woodard concerning the submarine
u-209 commanded by Heinrich Brodda. Given certain coordinates their mission
was to travel to the center of the earth, which they did. The letter is
written in German and translated into English. Interested? JW
Rodney M. Cluff wrote:
Joe,
I would certainly be interested in the letter. Could you send it to me?
The English translation.
Thank you very much!
Rodney M. Cluff
Joe wrote:
Sorry I haven't got back to you, have had massive rain, flooding, power
out phones down, etc. Dianne Robbins e mailed me back saying the letter was
unreadable on her end. Maybe you can try it on your end as you now have a
copy. As to how I have a copy of this letter, well here's the story. In 1986
or 87 this gentleman Woodward came into this town of Talkeetna Alaska, but I
don't know why. He met a guy I know named Terry Barber who told me what he
was planning on doing. After meeting him he told me the following. His Dad
had read all the Hollow Earth books had maps and ocean current directions
for different times of the year. He died and his son took up where he had
left off. He had it figured out that if you flew to Norway and floated on
these currents with large rubber rafts you would be taken into the center of
the earth. He gave his car away here in Talkeetna flew to L. A. Calif where
he was to meet the rest of his team, from there to Norway where all of the
gear was waiting. I asked him how he thought he could get away with this
without the Feds picking up on it with their satellites, his reply was they
were going in under the pretense of a scientific team doing research. He
offered to let me go with them and if I hadn't had two boys to raise I would
have. Apparently the letter was to his Dad but I don't remember how all of
that came about. Having read many of the Hollow Earth books I always
believed it was possible. He also claimed to have the original diary of
Admiral Byrd describing his 1700 mile journey into the earth. Anyway he let
me get a copy of the letter which you now have. As to why now after all
these years, hell I don't know I was cruising the net and ran across a link
about the Hollow Earth and it brought up old memories of that letter. Give
it to anyone you want I want nothing in return, maybe a little info if you
will share it. If you send me your address I will make copies of the German
and English version and send them to you. The same for Dianne . Any other
questions will be happy to oblige if I can. Joe Watson POB 643 Talkeetna
Alaska 99676
Rodney M. Cluff wrote:
Joe,
That is very interesting. Do you know if Woodward was successful in
floating in the rafts to Inner Earth?
I was able to read most of the letter, but if you can send us good clear
copies of both letters that would be fantastic!
I have been working with a group for years to put together an expedition to
our hollow earth. Details are on my website.
Rod
Joe wrote:
Here are the letters: English translation, Copy of German original
NO, never heard from him again. I ask him this very question and his reply
was if I make it I PROBABLY WON'T BE COMING BACK AND THEIR WAS NO WAY TO
CONTACT ME. Will mail letters today. JW
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Message received through Analia of Argentina:
August, 2005
This is a message from Athos to all those who are planning a trip to Hollow
Earth. The trip will be scheduled later than you had thought. This time is
necessary . It will help you all learn what you have to learn before coming
to the 5th Dimension. It is important that you keep your hearts wide open,
since most energy will flow through your 4th chakra. This is the way we
start the conversion of the 3rd Dimension’s structure to optimize it for a
5th Dimension activity. Being in the 5th Dimension implies a sense of unity
to all forms of Creation. It could be a temporary state, long enough to deal
with the changes that the trip itself implies.
We are discussing the terms in which you will have to descend . We shall
make circumstances proper to enter the North Pole Hole. As you know , it
could be easier for us to transport you all from your own homes to Inner
Earth. But the trip will mark a day that will change completely the
existence of those living on the surface of Earth.
You need to start -as soon as possible- to communicate among you (the people
that are planning to travel) This is extremely important since you will need
to operate as a true community. You need to feed a sense of understanding
and cooperation among you. It is definitively recommended that you start
gathering on a regular basis, and start having contacts among you, at least
by e-mail at the beginning. This is a one-purpose task. It is beyond
curiosity or eagerness for the unknown. It will mark a hint from where the
whole world will learn a different lesson.
You need to be well acquainted to each other’s needs and start operating as
a group. You know each other from many other previous lives, and are getting
together once again, this time with a specific task to do.
We shall not release the possible dates of the trip. It is not necessary.
Free will will guide your way down here. Be patient and trust.
Trust beyond your strength.
It is important that you begin to soften yourselves up and be ready for real
changes.
You have been assigned with this special reason in this lifetime. You had
agreed to do so, so there is nothing that will keep you off your way.
Start trusting in GOD, that is the answer. You can be completely sure that
this mission will come to a happy end.
Trust yourselves, trust your mates, trust you will get here soon.
Time might be manipulated to will. That is lesson number one. You will have
to be –every single one of you- almost an expert in manipulating time
according to your desires, since that is one of the aspects in which the 5th
Dimension manifests.
Meanwhile, we shall work on your mind in a non-violent way. You had given us
full permission to do so before you were born in this lifetime, and continue
to do so in those aspects where you are not self-conscious.
We work almost every night with your full consent in changing those messages
in your DNA that are opposed to the spirit of this mission. You constantly
agree and support the process. You might not be aware of it, but you
reinforce the task for which your lives make sense.
You are all blessed.
Be patient. We are with you: Many of you might start to be aware of this
Reality.
Share it with your mates and share it with the whole world.
You contribute to accelerate the Worldwide Awakening Process.
Athos
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January, 2006
This is Athos speaking.
Be open-minded and keep your hearts wide open.
This expedition operates in several levels: Although it is apparently THE
expedition in terms of adventure and risk, it implies a great experience not
only for you -those who are traveling- but also for the whole human race. It
will mark the day in which the veil of ignorance shall fall.
It does not make any difference for the purpose of the trip whether you
arrive at Jehu or not.
You will actually land at one of our city labs, where you shall undergo a
process to lighten the matter. We need to adapt your frequency level to the
Fifth Dimension speed beforehand. You are, even nowadays, undergoing this
process.
It is fine if you take a plane instead of a ship. You will finally get here.
But we ask you please to operate as a group. This is so important. It is
vital because it is easier for you to adapt to a higher frequency when you
add up your energies.
Those of you who have trouble –individually- to think in terms of something
beyond curiosity or fame, will profit from the whole group experience.
It shall be simpler to work with the energy of the group as one entity,
rather than with the plane of each individual.
Be ready to experience your most magnificent dreams once you get down here.
Thank you.
Athos and the Inner Earth Council
Rodney M. Cluff wrote:
Analia,
Can you explain to me how you received this message from inner earth?
Thanks,
Rod
Analia's Response:
The messages come to me as if they were my own thoughts, but they are far
more precise and specific. I am always fully conscious when I receive them.
I don´t change my voice, I don´t hear voices, nothing.
It is the way I never have to correct them, how I look up in my mind for a
specific word -and not any other- and specially the type of information, the
contents and quality of the messages, what confirms me the Source.
I had to fight against myself, I couldn´t believe it. Not any more. They had
worked on me as well, I am all for this Task. I am blessed and thankful.
The fact that I speak, read and write Irdin, is all that proves what I say.
It is basically intuition what drives people to believe about it or not.
I posted a web page with many messages. It is in Spanish. I understand Mr.
Currey speaks Spanish fluently.
These messages are about universal themes that concern us all: Creation,
Death, Happiness, Doubts, Desires, so forth. I received them from the
Ascended Masters and my Spiritual Guides. All of them aim to the implicit
focal point of the site: The Ascension Process nowadays.
People from Inner Earth have suggested that I do not post anything of what I
Know about them in the web, at least not yet.
But you can check written IRDIN (and its phonetic too) there.
www.grupodeluz.com.ar
A.
Analía Martini wrote:
Dear Rodney,
This is a message I received for you all.
Best regards,
Analía
You are protected and you are being guided.
You have done a very good research and will be welcome.
You will need to undergo a process to adjust the frequency you exist into
the one of the Hollow Earth. We will be helping you in the process while you
are asleep. You will most probably notice that you start to live somehow
differently; you might feel lighter, less dense. It is also very possible
that you start having very vivid dreams. It might be useful that you write
them down and work on them on your own.
This adjustment consists of enlightening your pineal gland and start
activating your right hemisphere. We normally install –with your full
consent- a chip that is inserted not precisely in your physical brain but in
the layers of your Mind. It contains heavy information about dealing and
behaving in the Fifth Dimension. You might probably feel wiser in general.
This is Athos speaking. I will personally escort you to your final
destination. Our spacecraft will guide your way from the moment you start
entering the North Pole hole. The day will be extraordinary bright -which is
unusual- since we provoke a constant stormy weather to difficult the
entrance. We project holograms as well to disguise the entrances.
Reiki would be most helpful; it will help you all to connect with your own
selves. Once that is done you can easily connect to all forms of Creation.
There are many outsiders living down here. They had agreed to do so and they
continue their tasks happily. They are reluctant to go back. Many people who
report missing (in the ocean, Bermuda Triangle –dimensional portals-) have
not been abducted but personally agreed to live here.
We speak any language we want. We communicate among us in Irdin, although we
hardly speak. We mentally contact each other, ubiquity is usual: we co-exist
in many in many places at the same time although there is always a nucleus
from where the being expands.
The day we shall meet you will be able to see us. We will welcome you and
protect you all trip long. It has come the time when the whole world must
know we co-exist with you in a different dimension.
All those who are willing to stay will be able to do so; some others that
are planning to stay will have difficulty in doing so once they arrive. Many
others that have not planned it will stay as well. There are some of you
that will quit before the trip starts. That is already written in your own
will.
It is us who are planning the way it is all going to happen. You are
instruments of this plan. You have been carefully chosen before hand.
The trip will be successful.
Do not worry if the journey is postponed a year or two more. It is all
within the plan and will finally happen.
You are all blessed.
We love you dearly, we are very happy for the times to come, and look
forward to having you here.
Many of you will be able to communicate freely with us before the trip
starts, and most of you will do so once you are back home.
You will be safe. You are safe.
Eventually we shall release more information that will help you finding your
way through this part of the world.
M Mazel wrote:
Greetings Rodney,
I have contacted Aage the airline pilot and he said he is interested in
communicating with you. I included his note at the bottom of this note. Ps
the original note to you slipped through my spelling checker....oops
Send him my e-mail address.
I will be glad to talk to him.
Aage [email protected]
Hope to see what info you come up with beneficial to you!
Thank You,
Michael Mazel
From Rodney:
Michael had indicated to me that his friend Aage is a retired airline pilot
and that he had told him that he has seen the north polar opening on his
airline flights across the arctic. I sent Aage an email and he responded as
follows:
Hello Hello,
I am sorry it has taken so long.
I am extremly busy here, and you know how things can get.
I would rather talk to you on the phone.
I do have some information in that area that could be interesting. I grew up
in Norway, and at the very northern part of the country it is kind of common
knowledge that there is comfortable living climate at the North Pole.
Aage
Dan wrote:
Hi Rodney.
I heard you on George Noory the other night. For some reason your manner and
what you said appealed to me.
I just got your book. I thought it would be just some entertaining
fiction. (I thought it would be maybe 40 pages long. I surely didn't
think 555.) But I can see from looking through it just a little bit that
it is really something good.
I have a Ph.D. from the University of Illinois at Chicago in continuum
mechanics. I can already see that you put a lot of science into it. The
combination of science with religion is very compelling.
One question that occurred to me when I heard you talk, was why the
oceans wouldn't drain into the hole at the North Pole. I'm sure you have
an answer in the book. (Maybe the ice goes down into the hole,
effectively forming a wall. But then if global warming melts the ice, I
would speculate that the ocean would flow into the hole.)
I hope that in the future you can publish your work as a regular book. I
think you would sell a lot of copies. I would buy one for myself, and
others to give as gifts. I think you have a great combination with the
subject - along with the old stories, text, calculations, pictures,
graphics and photographs.
I think you have devoted yourself to a very interesting and also hopeful
topic. And I think it takes courage to propose a theory that 99.9% of
people would reject without investigation as being absolutely crazy.
Best wishes, and good luck in the future.
Dan Baron.
Christy wrote:
I was listening to Art Bell this evening and heard Admiral Byrd’s
granddaughter ask a question if anyone had information on him. Up here in
Alaska there is a gentleman named Col. Norman Vaughn who is 98 years old and
went with Byrd on his expedition to the South Pole. He is very lucid for a
98 year old man and might have some information you need. He lives in
Anchorage and you should be able to get to him through the Iditarod Trail
Committee in Wasilla. There is even a mountain named after him (Vaughn) in
Anarctica and he climbed it on his 98th birthday. He is a very interesting
man, but I am sure that he won’t be with us for much longer. You can get
information on him on the net through search. Hope this helps you. Christy
Anne wrote:
Dear Rodney, Thank you for sending the long e-mail about Admiral Byrd. You
are very kind. It all blows my mind. I don't know whether to believe it or
not.
Unfortunately, the people immediately involved are very old or dead by now.
I have met Norman Vaughn a few times, he is extraordinary. I have a lot to
think about. Whether to try to contact some of the people
you mentioned. I am super busy at work right now. I'll have to wait a couple
weeks before I have time.
But I do really appreciate your sending me this information. And I wish you
good luck on your expedition. I don't know how a ship could be big and
strong enough to break all the way throught the polar ice cap. But I suppose
you know what you are doing.
Did you know that at the 50th anniversary of Byrd's first flight over the
south pole, in order to commemorate that event, a plane full of people took
off to fly over the south pole, and the plane was lost? They lost radio
contact with the plane, and never heard from it again and no one knew what
happened. That was in the 80's. And at that time I heard that several planes
have been lost flying over the south pole. Some from Australia. It's kind of
like a Bermuda triangle only on a much smaller scale since way less people
go to the south pole than to the
bermuda triangle. They must have gone inside, hunh? I heard about this at a
celebration commemorating the 50th anniversay of Bryd's first flight over
the south pole that was held by a club, I forget the name,
something like Byrd Aeronautics Club which was held at Henry Ford Museum in
Dearborn, Mi. (Henry Ford worked with Byrd to develop lighter motors for
airplanes, and maybe also motors that could operate at sub-zero
temperatures.) Maybe all those people went inside the
earth and never came out again. Who knows.
Sincerely, Anne Stabler
This email was from Anne Stabler, granddaugher of Admiral Richard E. Byrd.
It is interesting that she says she knows of several flights from Australia
that have tried to fly through the south polar opening, and never returned.
Curiously, if you fly from Australia over the south pole, you would be very
likely to fly into the area I have estimated the south polar opening is
located.
-- Rodney M. Cluff
LuAnne McGuire wrote:
HELLO,
IT'S INTERESTING THAT THE LORD HAS KEPT THE TEN TRIBES SAFE FROM MAN FOR
SUCH A LONG TIME! I'M SURE THAT EVEN IF YOU WERE IN CONTACT WITH THE
PROPHET, HIS DIRECTION TO YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE TO LEAVE IT ALONE! I HAVE
ALSO STUDIED "THE HOLLOW EARTH" FOR OVER 35 YEARS. I ALSO HAVE 20 PLUS YEARS
WITH SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 8 "SEABEES". THEY'RE THE ONES WHO MAINTAIN THE
DETS OF ANTARTICA, THE SOUTH POLE, AND THE NORTH POLE BASES, AND YES, THE
TEN TRIBES ARE THERE! I'VE PERSONALLY HAD TWO FULL-BIRD CAPTAINS (06) WHO
HAVE TOLD ME OF THE SECRET STUDIES OF OUR SCIENTISTS GOING DOWN AND WORKING
WITH THE TRIBES. YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY MAN OR WOMEN WHO BELIEVES IN, AND WANTS
TO GO THERE! THE GREAT PROPHET, PRESIDENT WILFORD WOODRUFF, ALSO SPOKE OF
THE COMING OF THE TRIBES IN THE LAST DAYS! I ALSO REMEMBER A WARNING HE
WROTE ABOUT, THAT SAID THAT IF MAN WAS TO TRY AND GO DOWN THERE, HE WOULD BE
DESTROYED!!! MY DEAR BROTHER, PLEASE WRITE THE PROPHET AND GET COUSEL ON
THIS GRAVE ISSUE! I TOO SHARE THAT DREAM BUT I ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT IF THE
LORD WANTED JACK MCGUIRE TO GO, HE WOULD PROVIDE A PLAN AND DIRECTIONS!
PLEASE THINK ABOUT SHARING THIS KNOWLEDGE WITH THE WORLD! IT'S THIS WORLD
THAT DESTROYED OUR LORD, JESUS CHRIST!!! MUCH LOVE, JACK A. MCGUIRE/LDS.
.
REPLY:
Jack,
It's good to hear from you again!
Yes, I have contacted the prophet about the hollow earth location of the
lost ten tribes and have a letter in response. It was several years ago when
President Ezra Taft Benson was prophet.
His letter said that the church does not have a position on the hollow earth
theory, and that if I have any questions about the lost ten tribes, to talk
to my local Stake President or Bishop.
I have not been counseled to leave the topic alone, as you surmise. I have
only been asked not to teach the theory in church. Only church approved
materials can be taught inside the church building. Outside the church, I
can do what I want as long as it is ethical and moral.
Actually, there have been several people that have been to our hollow earth,
visited with the people there, and have returned safely, and not destroyed
as you say. I have seen no evidence of anyone going to the hollow earth and
being destroyed. The accounts we have indicate that the people there are
very friendly and do not try to prevent visitors from returning to the
surface world. However, I am sure that the Lord has preserved their land by
the unbelief of the exterior world peoples. I was showing all my studies on
the hollow earth as being the most probable location the Lord has hidden the
lost ten tribes to a high priests group last night, and I don't think any of
them believed a word of it. They weren't antagonistic, but just kindly
listened to all I had to say. I don't think they will believe it until I
actually go there and bring back our IMAX film of the expedition.
There are, however, many interested people in joining our expedition. We get
several inquiries every week and once in a while one will book the trip. We
are hoping to have enough voyagers to make our expedition a GO by 2006.
We are going on this expedition in the spirit of Christopher Columbus.
Columbus wrote, ...our Lord unlocked my mind, sent me upon the sea, and gave
me fire for the deed. Those who heard of my enterprise called it foolish,
mocked me, and laughed. But who can doubt but that the Holy Ghost inspired
me?" (Jacob Wasserman, Columbus, Don Quixote of the Seas, p. 20)
We are confident we have located the coordinates of the north polar opening
and with use of gyroscopes we will be able to detect when we are beginning
to descend into the opening. We invoke the Lord's blessings and protection
on our voyage to Our Hollow Earth Expedition Cruise.
You are invited to join us, if after prayerful consideration, you would so
desire. If not, if you want I can place you on our expedition UPDATES so you
can hear about our progress.
Next Year in Eden,
Rodney M. Cluff, author
World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow!
BBRHI wrote:
Rod:
I appreciate very much your information. My expedition in general will
include the following. I already have clients interested.
(1)Arrival to Moscow. I have an office there for my rafting company. We will
spend a couple of days in Moscow. Staying at hotel "Russia".
(2) 6 days rafting on the Indigikra River.
(3) Charter Cruise to New Siberian Islands- spend a couple of days on the
Islands checking out the exotic animal skeletons.
(4) Charter Cruise towards North Pole with coordinates to Polar opening via
Russian Icebreaker via my Russian contacts. In search of Sannikov Land.
I should have a pricing for the trip next week. Would you be interested in
joining the expedition? Do you know of any LDS adventuresome folks who would
be interested in joining the expedition? Best if we could find qualified LDS
participants who have experience in the region, have knowledge such as
yourself on this subject, have navigational skills etc.
By the way, good non-LDS qualified folks are welcome as well, we'll just
convert them on the trip. Bring lots of Books of Mormon ( I handed out 20 in
Russia last year, one couple may get babtized in Barnaul, Siberia real
soon).
Very Best,
Steve Currey
The Expedition Company
REPLY:
Steve,
Sounds good. How much do you estimate the price per person for this
expedition?
Thanks,
Rod
BBRHI wrote:
Rod:
This is great information! Beleive it or not, I have fantastic connections
in Siberia. My company has conducted 4 rafting expeditions in Russia (1989,
1990,1991 and 2002) 3 on the Katun River in Siberia and 1 on the Chatkal
River in Central asia.
My last visit was this past September with 10 guests, including my mother.
I have another trip scheduled for departure this August 29th. I have a raft
manufacturing plant in Siberia which imports rafts into the United States.
Is it your opinion to first search out Crocker land northwest of Ellesmere
Island or head north of the New Siberian Island region with a chartered
Russian Icebreaker? Has anyone attempted an expedition
north of the New Siberian Islands?
Very Best,
Steve Currey
REPLY:
Steve,
MacMillian & Lt. Green went out 200 miles northwest of Ellesmere Island
looking for Crocker land and the mirage of land that they were pursuing kept
retreating. It is my opinion, that the Crocker Land mirage, Bradley land
mirage, the mirage of land sighted from Harrison Bay, Alaska by Captain
Keenan, and the mirage of Sannikov land sighted by the Russians north of the
New Siberian Islands are all one and the same -- a mirage of land within the
north polar opening which I estimate to be at 84.4 N Lat. 141 E Lon. north
of the New Siberian Islands.
On page 66 of The Smoky God, Olaf Jansen mentioned that as he and his father
left Franz Josef Land on their expedition to the Hollow Earth, "we seemed to
be in a strong current running north by northeast."
Olaf and his father found the polar opening and explorered the Hollow Earth
in 1829, but Dr. Fridtjof Nansen just missed it when he floated across the
pole in his ship the Fram in 1893. He headed north of the New Siberian
Islands, but on the west side, and just missed the polar opening. Many of
the anomalies he noticed on his trip was because he was so close. In fact,
he had gone on this trip hoping to find the Sannikov land the Russians had
sighted north of the New Siberian Islands. I think if we went north from the
east coast of the New Siberian Islands, we would go right into the opening.
It is a large hole in the arctic ocean.
In 1958, Reinhold Schmidt was taken through the north polar opening to our
hollow earth by a flying saucer.
In Chapter 6 of my book, I speak of his trip:
In Alec Maclellan's book, THE HOLLOW EARTH ENIGMA, is an account he found of
a man of German descent who immigrated to America where he became interested
in the flying saucer phenomena. Reinhold Schmidt was interviewed by reporter
Charles Longcroft of the Los Angeles Examiner who wrote, "This was the first
time I have ever been face to face with someone who claims to have contacted
space men or to have been inside a saucer ... My impression is that the man
has definitely seen something and is not making the whole story up as a
publicity stunt."
Reinhold Schmidt relates that at age 38 he was contemplating on the subject
of flying saucers after reading Frank Scully's book, BEHIND THE FLYING
SAUCERS (1950) when on August 14, 1958 he had what he thought was a dream
telling him to drive to a quarry in Bakersfield, California. After sitting
around several hours, he saw a silvery circular craft come down from the
sky. Access to it was by sliding doors and a ramp lowered to the ground. A
figure appeared in the doorway and flashed a ray on him apparently to
synchronize his body's electromagnetic field to that of the craft. Others
appeared and escorted him into the craft. They also drove his car up the
ramp so as not to leave it in the quarry. They then took off and flew north
towards Alaska and up over the polar regions.
The crew consisted of four men and two women. Reinhold described them as
tall, with noble features dressed in gray, one-piece, skin-tight suits. The
women were especially beautiful. They appeared in all respects as humans as
we are. They spoke in what Reinhold recognized as "high German" which had
been taught him by his parents. However, throughout the entire trip, he was
addressed in perfect English.
The craft appeared to be transparent which allowed him to look out in all
directions except where obscured by machinery, control panels, couches,
chairs or small tables. The latter did not seem to be attached to the floor,
but never moved with all the craft's maneuvering. He was able to see out the
transparent walls of the craft throughout the journey up to the Arctic
Ocean, where he said, "We seemed to go under the Arctic Ocean and enter a
huge hole." They then passed over strange earth landscapes, but never
landed.
Reinhold stated that his "hosts" never told him exactly where they came
from, although he became convinced that their homeland was somewhere in the
region of the pole. He could see that they were highly advanced in
technology, but seemed to be a rather peaceful people. He said that if their
mission had a purpose, from what he gathered, it was to observe mankind and
to keep us from destroying the planet.
Schmidt's flying saucer trip lasted for 5 days. He remembers seeing a land
which was lit by a glowing sun rather different from our Sun, and twice had
the impression of crossing a large curve of ocean where the horizon dipped
and fell and then righted itself. (This would be a perfect description of
having passed into and out of a polar opening. So this author believes
Schmidt was actually taken to the hollow earth via the North Polar Opening.)
On August 18, 1958, Reinhold was returned by his flying saucer friends to
the Bakersfield quarry with his Buick.
Rod
BBRHI wrote:
Rod:
I appreciate very much your information and update on upcoming
expeditions to the Poles. I am leaning towards an expedition to the North
Pole although I have better contacts for Antartica. I will need to do alot
more research before I can put an itinerary together. My initial thinking is
to put a expedition together to visit Ellesmere Island and the
North Pole of course with the main focus to try and locate Crocker land. I
was able to locate Cape Thomas Hubbard on the map but I can't locate Cape
Colgate. I will go to BYU and see what I can find in the Map Library. I am
confident that I can get sufficient financial support through my own
contacts, expedition mailing list of 25 years. Jon Huntsman made an
expedition with me some years ago and I may be able to muster some support
from him and his group. I have several other past expedition members who
could help support the expedition.
The earliest I could put an expedition together to head North would be
April 2004. Visiting Ellesmere Island and the North Pole is already one of
my goals, the agenda of Crocker land only makes it that more exciting.
Very Best,
Steve Currey
P.S. FYI While I was exploring the Tsangpo gorge in Tibet the deepest valley
on earth (17,000 feet deep- 3 times deeper than the Grand Canyon), I ran
into Tibetans who spoke about a inner world located in "Pemako" the holiest
of all places in Tibet and where I was one of the first people in the
outside world to visit. All Tibetans want to go to Pemako to die. There are
several pilgramages every year.My scholar friend Ian Baker who has visited
Pemako more than any other outsider, discovered Hidden falls on the Yarlung
Tsangpo river at the deepest point of the gorge. He says there is an
entrance opening or cave behind the falls or near the falls (I can't
remember which) which leads into the inner world according to the Llamas in
Pemako. Ian has
lived the past 15 years in Katmandu Nepal and speaks fluent Tibetan. He is
from the Boston area. National Geographic explorer television did a one hour
special of his discovery of Hidden falls in the gorge. Ian would have more
information about these Tibetan beliefs. I have personally hiked the gorge
two times. The Gillenwater brothers of arizona who have hiked the gorge 4
times have insight and information to this legend as well. They were
actually the first to see Hidden falls. They are also LDS and attended BYU.
Best, Steve C.
REPLY:
Steve,
Here is a bit of information from my article Location and Size of the Polar
Openings on my website that pinpoints the North Polar Opening. The land
closest to it is the New Siberian Islands north of Siberia.
Prior to his Arctic expedition, Nansen had visited Russia and consulted with
their experts about their sighting of a mirage of land they termed Sannikov
land north of the New Siberian Islands. The New Siberian islands even today
are covered with bones and remains of mammoths and other inner earth animals
that Olaf Jansen claims fell into ice crevasses of inner earth rivers that
empty into the Arctic Polar Opening where they froze and later were carried
out to sea and eventually ended up deposited on northern Arctic shores.
Remains of woolly rhino, steppe lions, giant deer, mammoth, foxes and a
hardy breed horse that scientists claim are prehistoric are preserved in the
Arctic ice. Recently these scientists have been attempting to find some of
these exotic animal remains that are frozen and preserved in Arctic ice.
They want to take samples of the frozen flesh and use it to clone these
exotic animals to start a sort of Jurassic Park. Little do they know that a
Jurassic Park already exists located inside Our Hollow Earth, and can be
reached through the North Polar Opening, north of the New Siberian Islands,
from whence all the frozen exotic carcasses come from.
On the opposite side of the Arctic from the New Siberian Islands, Lt. Green
of the U.S. Navy had accompanied MacMillan on his expedition northwest of
Ellesmere Island following the mirage of Crocker land that Peary had sighted
from Cape Thomas Hubbard on his way north to discover the pole. MacMillan
had turned back after journeying 120 miles out over the ice pack because the
mirage of Crocker land continued to appear ever farther northward no matter
how far they traveled towards it. Later, Lt. Green published an article in
Popular Science, in 1929, that he was still convinced that Crocker land
still existed and had even convinced the Navy to build a dirigible named the
ZR-1 that was going to attempt an over flight of that land. Here is Lt.
Green's Arctic map showing his estimated location of that unknown land that
MacMillan and his eskimos thought was just a mirage.
In warmer climates of the world, a mirage mostly looks like water on the
horizon because it is reflecting the blue sky. But in the Arctic, a mirage
is is caused by warm moist air that comes up out of the Polar Opening from
the Inner World. This layer of warmer air above the colder air next to the
ice causes mirages or reflections of the ground or ice on the ocean, and not
the sky, as in the warmer climates of the world. In the warmer climates of
the world the temperature of the air becomes colder with height above the
ground. Just the opposite is the case in the Arctic and Antarctic. Warm,
moist air emanating from the earth's hollow interior through the polar
openings rises above the ice and serves as a boundary of air that reflects
objects on the ground. Jan Lamprecht, in his book, Hollow Planets, gives
solid evidence that the mirage of Peary's Crocker land and Cook's Bradley
land could easily have been a double inverted image of land within the North
Polar Opening located somewhere northwest of Ellesmere Island within the
area Lt. Green termed on his map the "Unexplored Area." Notice that my
estimated location for the North Polar Opening is located within Green's
unexplored area. The land that Green thought must be there, is, however,
actually located within the Polar Opening.
Jan Lamprecht has a map on page 193 of his book, HOLLOW PLANETS, showing the
location and directions of sightings of mirages of anomalous lands in the
arctic, which are not found on any current day maps. Taking these sightings
and triangulating them towards the points towards which they were observed
and from the locations in which they were sighted, gives us another
indication where the center of the North Polar Opening most likely is
located. North from the New Siberian Islands the Russians sighted the mirage
of Sannikov land. Northwest of Ellesmere Island was the sighting of Crocker
land by Admiral Peary, Lt. Green and MacMillan. Bradley land was also
sighted in that same general direction by Polar explorer Dr. Cook on
his way to discover the pole. From Alaska, from Harrison Bay, was sighted
land also towards the north west by Captain Keenan. If we draw a line from
each of these locations towards their respective directions in which
anomalous land was sighted, we arrive once again at the location I have
determined must be the location of the North Polar Opening centered on 141 E
Longitude, 84.4 deg N Latitude.
For the complete article, see http://www.ourhollowearth.com/PolarOpn.htm
Rod
Delia Currey wrote:
Rodney:
We need to talk. I am a resident of Provo, LDS and a firm believer of the
Hollow Earth theory. I first learned of the Hollow Earth theory when I was
15 years old from my father. I am now 51 years old. I served a mission in
Argentina and my wife is from Buenos Aires, we have six sons. I have spent
the past 25 years in Patagonia, Tibet and the Amazon.
I'm an explorer with many first descents under my belt in the River rafting
arena. I am the first to have pioneered the Upper Ganges in India, the
Brahmaputra river in India, the Po Tsango, Upper Yangtze and Yarlung Tsangpo
gorges in Tibet (the deepest canyons in the world- 17,000 feet deep (3 times
the depth of the Grand Canyon), the Bio Bio, Futaleufu and Figueroa rivers
of Patagonia, rivers in the Amazon etc... I have been exploring these
regions for the past 27 years. My father Jack Currey, started the largest
commercial rafting company in the United states "Western River Expeditions".
He got ahold of the Hollow Earth book by Raymond Bernard when I was 15 years
old. He wanted to take one of our large motorized 36' grand canyon pontoon
rafts up to the North Pole to explore and find the lost ten tribes. We all
thought he was crazy at the time. I have been researching the Hollow Earth
theory again just the past 2 months after 35 years of forgetting about my
father's proposed expedition.
Something has been telling me to look into the Hollow Earth theory again. I
am personally convinced that the 10 tribes are inside the earth. I am going
to order your book and continue researching and studying about the Hollow
Earth.
Do you know of any proposed expeditions to the North or South Poles? I would
be interested in mounting a expedition with my world contacts for a joint
air-boat expedition to either the North or South Poles for an attempt to
bring back evidence that the Earth is Hollow. I have the contacts and
financial support to make an expedition happen. Any direction as to the kind
of expedition (air, boat, overland) that should be pursued? I currently have
the expertise, specialized team members, sponsors(if needed), equipments to
make this a project like no other. Putting together expeditions is what I
do. My kayakers made the first descent through the wildest whitewater on
earth in the deepest canyon on the planet and everyone came back. National
Geographic Television. I personally rafted the Tsangpo River in 2000. I have
also designed several very large inflatables (RIBS) for Ocean excursions. I
have spent alot of time on the Ocean as well as Rivers worldwide.
Any thoughts how we could work together in mounting an expedition? I have
fantastic connections in Antartica. I currently have a personal realestate
office in Punta Arenas, Chile. I can easily arrange for flights from Punta
Arenas to Antartica.
I would be happy to send you articles and resumes of my past expeditions and
experience. Any further research or information regarding the Hollow Earth
and your personal writings would be of great interest. I am more interested
in your writings, since we both share the same religious background. I
wouldn't mind calling you to discuss this more. What is your phone contact
in Arizona?
Thanks for your time,
Very Best,
Steve Currey
President
Currey Exeditions
P.O. Box 1574
Provo, Utah 84603
The Expedition Company
email :[email protected]
www.expeditioncompany.net
801-221-2792
REPLY:
Steve,
Yes, Danny Weiss of the International Society for a Complete Earth has been
talking about retracing Admiral Byrd's 1947 flight beyond the north pole
into the hollow earth for years. A link to his site is on my New Items page.
It is: Hollow Earth – Lets Fill It With Content
Also, Jan Lamprecht of South Africa was collecting donations about 2 years
ago to make a flight to Ellesmere Island where Admiral Peary sighted a
mirage of what he named Crocker Land northwest of Cape Thoms Hubbard and
Cape Colgate. Dr. Cook his competitor to the north pole also saw this same
mirage further out on the ice pack and called it Crocker Land. His website
is: http://www.hollowplanets.com/ He makes an excellent case in his book
Hollow Planets that these mirages of land in the Arctic are double inverted
images of land within the north polar opening.
However, I haven't heard any firm commitments yet of actually pulling off
such an expedition.
Sure, we can talk. My phone is 480 804-0085, home, and 602 542-2998 work.
Cleon Skousen has stated that it will be LDS that will locate the lost
tribes. If you want to be the one that proves they are in the hollow earth,
that would be great.
I tend to prefer the north polar entrance than the south. I don't know how
well they are guarded, but I think that could be a consideration in making
an expedition.
Regards,
Rodney M. Cluff
One correction on that. Dr. Cook named it Bradley Land. And even took a
picture of the mirage on his way to the pole. Jan (pronounced John or Jon)
makes an excellent case that Dr. Cook was the first to reach the North Pole.
He was vilified, even to this day, because of the picture he took of Bradley
Land, but even Peary saw it and believed it to be land, naming it Crocker
Land. Later MacMillan and Lt Green took a couple of Eskimos and went out on
the ice trying to reach it, but decided after 200 miles out on the ice from
Cape Thomas Hubbard that it was a mist, but nonetheless reported that it
looked every bit like land. The problem was that they didn't seem to get any
closer to it the farther they went. It would seem that it was just as far
away even at 200 miles closer to it. The reason is that is was a mirage of
land within the polar opening. Lt. Green apparently believed it was real,
because in his Popular Science article published in the 1920's he made an
excellent case that there was land there that still needed to be explored. I
think soon after that it became World Top Secret, because that was when
Admiral Byrd first flew into the hollow earth in 1929.
Have a nice day!
Rod
Karl wrote:
Hi, Rodney.
I read your Foreward ( Foreword ) and was
wondering whether your friend, Fred M. Sandelin, ever got his seaplane and
made that trip to find the North Countries.
Is Fred still around and what's he up to now with respect to pursuing
this?
Also, you say "he saw some pictures taken in the North Countries of the
Hollow Earth showing the Giant people and vegetation that exist there."
Where are those pictures now and did he get any copies?
Who took those pictures and how were they obtained (satellite, aerial,
ground)?
Regards,
Karl
REPLY:
Karl,
Fred called me last year on his cellular on his way to Ventura, California
where is now fishes for squid. No, I don't think he ever got his seaplane.
I had a falling out with him the second year fishing with him in Alaska. He
had a rather powerful personality and liked getting his way with a lot of
shouting and hollering. That was pretty much what turned me away from
working with him. But I still consider him a friend.
The pictures he saw was in a DEW station up on the arctic one winter when he
was called in to work on their electric generator. He's an electrician.
While he was working in their station, he just noticed the pictures. There
was very high security there, and he wasn't allowed to make any questions
about the pictures, much less get any copies of them. So he doesn't know how
they got the pictures.
Regards,
Rodney M. Cluff
member wrote:
Hello,
I have been reading about a “hollow earth” and am fascinated with the idea.
I understand that you are Mormon, is this a Mormon belief? Can a person who
is not Mormon believe it? The government must know about this hollow earth.
Are they covering it up?
Bev
REPLY:
Bev,
The hollow earth theory is not a Mormon belief. However, according to one
survey about 4% of Latter-day Saints do believe in the hollow earth as a
viable location for the possible location of the lost ten tribes of Israel.
I have a lot of friends that aren't LDS that believe in the hollow planets
theory. I am certain the government knows about this and are covering it up
from the general public. It is, in fact, the World TOP Secret, that our
earth, the moon, the sun and every planet in the heavens are hollow, and
most are probably inhabited by humans INSIDE.
Thank you for your interest,
Rodney M. Cluff, author
World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow!
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1/17/2003
Dear Rodney,
I have just recently finished reading your book and must tell you that it is
an excellent work.
You have a rare overview of the actual state of our planet and its
inhabitants, and have taken the effort and the risk to communicate it to the
public. Your message is vitally important to the welfare of humanity and in
a sense this makes you a prophet.
What I find most unique about your book is your ability to identify Heaven
as an actual physical location and not just as some ethereal realm. Now,
everyone who reads your book, and hopefully others like it, will know what
the bible really means when it speaks of "heaven and earth".
Heaven is always an inner, central, and solar location, and there are many
heavens, from the sub-atomic to the Heaven of heavens at the center of the
Wheel of Creation itself. Our cosmos is in fact a heiarchy of suns or
heavens, and the pattern of one is always replicated in the other.
The other thing I find unique about your book is your identification of the
lost ten tribes of Israel as the leading power within the hollow earth, and
the United States government as their leading nemesis. It is sad but true
that most of our outer world leaders have sold out to Satan.
I am also enthralled by your description of where we go to at death. For
years I have suspected the same thing but have never actually heard it
voiced untill I read your book.
I find your description of the center of our galaxy very intriguing, and
your geographical understanding of Hell very accurate. LOCATION is so
important in the clear understanding of any concept. May I add that the
actual dividing line between Hell and Eden-Paradise is the central gravity
sphere deep within the earth's shell, and that the interior of the earth's
shell in general is popularly referred to as Middle Earth. As you know, it
is here, in the first few hundred miles beneath and above our outer surface
where the powers of evil have made their home, and where poor humanity is
trapped. Happily, I know that these evil beings will one day soon be removed
or relocated so that humanity can finally flourish to its glorious
potential, unimpeded.
I am wating anxiously for that day when I will be strolling through Eden
once again with not a worry in the world.
Note: There are two important authors or books I have not seen mentioned in
your book.
One is Theodore Fitch, who has written extensively on the bible and the
hollow earth. His classic "A Mansion is Built For You in Paradise" is
available at Health Research Books.
The other is a book called "The Hollow Earth" by Rudy Rucker, which
describes an amazing journey to the south polar entrance and into the hollow
earth, and gives a fascinating description of the inner sun.
If you have not read them I urge you to do so.
see you in Eden,
Nick
Jack wrote:
DEAR SIR,
I'M 50 YEARS OLD AND HAVE STUDIED THE HOLLOW EARTH THEORY SINCE ABOUT 1974.
I KNOW THE BOOK VERY WELL; THE AUTHOR BEING RAYMOND BERNARD, AND THE ACTUAL
EXPEDITION AND MATERIAL PUT TOGETHER BY ADMIRAL RICHARD E. BYRD. I'M ALSO
MORMON WITH A BACKGROUND IN SPECIAL FORCES, SEABEES, U.S. NAVY. THE NAVY
MAINTAINS THE ANTARTIC DEPT WHICH GUARDS THE OPENING TO THAT PARTICULAR
REGION. IN MY MANY YEARS IN THE NAVY, I'VE MET FOUR CAPTAINS, ONE
LIEUTENANT, ONE WARRANT OFFICER AND ONE RETIRED GREEN BERET WHO HAVE ALL
SEEN THE OPENING PERSONALLY. THEY HAVE ALL TOLD THEIR PARTICULAR STORY TO
ME. THE REASON I AM WRITING YOU THIS E-MAIL IS TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE
ARE MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT KNOW OF THE HOLLOW EARTH AND THAT ADMIRAL
BYRD IS THE TRUE EXPLORER OF BOTH OF THE OPENINGS TO THE INTERIOR OF THE
EARTH. I THOUGHT IT PECULIAR COMING ACROSS YOUR INTERNET SITE AND TALKING
ABOUT THE HOLLOW EARTH THAT YOU NOT ONCE MENTIONED ADMIRAL BYRD. I
PERSONALLY MET HIS DAUGHTER IN LAW, THE WIFE OF THE YOUNGER ADMIRAL BYRD. I
WAS ALSO GIVEN A COPY OF ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS. IT'S GREAT THAT
YOU'RE PROMOTING THE CHURCH THROUGH THE BOOK OF MORMON AND IT'S TIES WITH
THE LOST 10 TRIBES. IN CLOSING, IT IS ONLY A SUGGESTION THAT THE MAN WHO
ACTUALLY DISCOVERED THE HOLLOW EARTH SHOULD BE GIVEN HIS JUST DUE AND BE
RECOGNIZED FOR HIS GREAT DISCOVERY!
FROM ANOTHER BELIEVER! JACK A. MCGUIRE / [email protected]
Note: I DO give full credit to Admiral Byrd in my ebook.
-- Rod
Jan Lamprecht wrote:
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Hi Everyone,
Lee sent me this. Now this is really weird. The problem: No Ice at the North
Pole. So some, like myself, immediately thought: No problem - Global
Warming. But check this article below. An
Australian scientist makes a (seemingly valid point), that Global Warming
cannot be the cause of melted ice at the North Pole. OK, so what then? Now
I'm just thinking... Firstly - is he right?
He makes a good point don't you think?
If he's right, then what's causing this? In my book I mentioned the old
problem of polyanas - huge stretches of melted ice in the polar regions. No
one really knows where they come from.
But some time back we discussed whether the El Nino is caused by LAVA or HOT
WATER pouring out of the Pacific sea bed - by way of seismic activity...
In my book I had written about Commander Peary's observation that a vast
cloud of VOLCANIC ASH had fallen in Greenland in the 1890's. Peary believed
there was an UNDISCOVERED VOLCANO up in the Arctic seas north of Alaska.
Later, in 1923, Lt Cmdr Green said there was a volcanic island up there, and
he said it lay on a fault line.
Now let me tell you something interesting. I was chatting to a seismologist
about two weeks ago. I actually followed up on Green's fault line theory.
Now if you look at any seismic map of the
world you'll see lots of faults running along Asia and Alaska. Now Green
said there was a fault-line running from the Bering Strait (Alaska), up to
the North Pole, across it, and to Iceland. This was
in the 1920's. Green said that "Crocker Land" would be SEISMICALLY ACTIVE...
(just like Iceland is - and that it would fall on the same fault line as
Iceland)...
WHen I asked a seismologist for details of seismic activity in the Arctic,
he gave me a map which showed minor quakes EVERYWHERE - EXCEPT for a huge
BLANK SPACE in exactly the area where Crocker Land should be. There was
minor seismic activity EVERYWHERE in the Arctic, Canada, Russia, etc - but
the area in question was a COMPLETE BLANK. Furthermore, the fault line from
Iceland went to the North Pole (as Green had said in the 1920's), but from
there it went into North Russia (instead of to the Bering Strait where logic
dictates it should go). Now I looked at all my text books on seismology and
there are no major fault lines in north of Russia. The line from the North
Pole to Russia doesn't make sense. Could it be that the line from the North
Pole to the Bering strait lies in a CLASSIFIED zone?
Consider the mystery of the Polyanas... Why do large areas of ice melt in
the Arctic? Could it be that the real reason for Polyanas is SEISMIC
ACTIVITY which is occurring north of Alaska but which is classified?
Green went so far as to say that Crocker Land would be ringed by huge
mountains (which he said he saw), which were caused by this seismic
activity. He said too that the island would be covered in a permanent fog by
the geysers and geothermal heat coming up from the island.
Now think about this. Could this be the real explanation behind Polyanas?
Could this be the real reason why the ice has now melted at the North Pole?
Could it be that ABNORMAL seismic activity is present in the Arctic and that
is what is causing the ice at the North Pole to melt?
Now I'm really curious...
Regards,
Jan
http://theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,4511,1104324%255E2703,00.htm
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Scientist cools meltdown theory
By STEPHEN BROOK
22aug00
Global warming was unlikely to be a principal cause of the melting of
the North Pole, an Australian scientist said yesterday.
"Global warming and the atmosphere - that's probably the least
important," said Ian Allison, a glaciologist at the Australian Antarctic
Division, based in Hobart.
Dr Allison said factors such as ocean temperature and currents
would have a greater effect on melting the ice cap around the North
Pole than global warming.
Ice at the North Pole has turned into a 1.6km-wide ocean. The
melting came to light after a luxury cruise liner had been unable to
allow its passengers to disembark at the North Pole and have their
photos taken because there was no ice to stand on and the nearest
solid ice had been 10km away.
Studies show that the polar ice sheet and Greenland ice sheet are
reducing, and some projections indicate that the polar ice cap will
disappear by the end of the 21st century.
Scientific records of the depth of the ice sheet have come from an
unexpected source - submarines that have prowled the Arctic since
the cold war. US, British and Russian submarines had monitored the
ice thickness - its draft - with their sonars.
Dr Allison said the lack of ice at the pole - even at the height of
summer - was highly unusual.
But he said even if global warming had caused a rise in air
temperature from, for example, minus 20C to minus 10C, it was still
not going to melt a great deal of ice.
Transpolar drift can pack the Arctic ice sheet into ridges up to 20m
thick that gradually disperse over a large area.
The transpolar drift occurs when warmer water from the North Pacific
Ocean pushes up the Bering Strait between Alaska and Siberia and
propels ice down the coast of Greenland.
A cyclonic circular current north of Canada packs ice against that
mainland and islands.
A great influx of water from the Pacific Ocean would affect the ice
sheet because the ocean was warmer than the North Atlantic.
And just as El Nino and La Nina affect Australia, the North Atlantic
oscillation produces a change in pressure that affects ocean
currents.
Dr Allison said scientists had not detected similar melting at
Antarctica.
"There's no evidence that something's happening in Antarctica, but
only because we don't have a long history of observation," he said.
--------
What about Bunger's Oasis? Consider this image of Antarctica
of 84.4 S Lat, 141 W Lon, from The Living Earth Website:
Isn't that a polyana in the ice continent near the top of the image. And
it's pretty big. --Rod
giants wrote:
thathums
Reply-To: [email protected]
Steve,
This earth "hum" is similar to the trembling of a soap bubble. It is
interesting that in this article in New Scientist, the researchers found
that the period of vibrations in this "hum" has a duration of 54 minutes --
the very same period of any large earthquake, which scientists say the earth
vibrates like a bell (which, by the way, is also hollow). If the earth
trembles like a soap bubble, which is hollow, or vibrates like a bell, which
is hollow, this indicates strongly to me that the earth is also hollow.
Good article! Thanks for sharing it with us.
Rod
Steve Oldham wrote:
Hi all, I found this article concerning the earth's hum and thought it might
be of interest. It mentions how an earthquake or a nuclear test can set the
earth to ringing like a bell. What's your take on this?
Steve
Jan Lamprecht wrote:
Hi All,
I received an e-mail from Duncan Roads the editor and owner of NEXUS
magazine in Australia. He informed me that his copy of "Hollow Planets" has
arrived and they will be doing a review of it in the
December/January issue of the magazine.
Other reviews which are in the pipe-line are:-
- New Dawn magazine (Australia)
- Dr J. Gill (USA) (Los Angeles Times & other publications)
(Note: Dr Gill is a former professor of geology) - Fate magazine (USA)
- The Star newspaper (South Africa)
RE: NEXUS...
Duncan Roads has had an interest in my research and book for a very long
time and I'm looking forward to seeing a review coming from NEXUS.
RE: Other Book Reviews...
At this time I have not really had much of a chance
to push the book-reviews side so this is just a
small tentative stab.
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From:
"Miranda, Rafael"
Reply-To:
[email protected]
Date:
Fri, 25 Jun 1999 02:43:33 -0500
To:
[email protected]
Subject:
RE: [HollowEarth] - Yet another question
On a note of interest you might want to read "Worlds in Collision" by
Alexander Velikovski. It is a physics-history book explaining his theory
that the earth's magnetic poles have shifted in the past. He wrote the book
around the 1950's 1960's or 1970's ( I do not remember exactly). He used a
lot of historical records and physics to show his theory.
He was ridiculed in all his theories and yet he was never proven wrong. He
predicted the Van Alen Belt around the earth and yet they do not have his
name.
The physics of his time went so far as to threaten the publisher of his book
that if the book was published they would cancel the million dollar
contracts for the physics textbooks the publisher was going to publish. He
had to use a different publisher with no scientific line whatsoever just to
publish the book.
A physicist who was assigned to criticize his book never read the book! It
was a butcher job!
Look at the problem Galileo had with his theory. Every time a new idea has
come forth it has always been fought savagely by the so called "experts" of
the time.
Any profession gets very agitated when someone comes along and tells them
that they are wrong.
Christopher Columbus was scoffed and laughed out of every European court for
his request to get a ship to travel and see if the earth was really round.
If he had not convinced queen Isabelle of Spain to pawn her jewels for the
expedition he could probably never have gotten the ship!
This idea of the hollow earth will be fought and ridiculed by every so
called "expert" and we must not expect any sympathy from the scientific
community.
It is not just a matter of been right and been able to prove it. It is a
matter of getting someone to listen in the first place!
Well, that I hope explains why the physicists "say" that the earth cannot be
hollow.
Rafael
giants wrote:
[SMTP:[email protected]<SMTP%[email protected]>]
John E . Rael III wrote:
"Why can't the earth be hollow?" That is, why does science say it is not
hollow? What does physics have against the hollow earth theory?
John,
Good question again. I would say the main reason orthodox science rejects
the hollow earth comes from the Cavendish gravitation constant and their
Gravitation formula which gives an average earth density of 5.5 gm/cc.
But actually, if you really look at it, the Newtonian mass and density of
the earth does NOT actually exclude the possibility that the earth is
hollow.
Since on average, earth surface rocks are 2.7 gm/cc (water is 1 gm/cc), then
if the earth's overall average density is 5.5, then the interior of the
earth would have to be at least as dense as steel (8 gm/cc). For example,
8.3 + 2.7 / 2 = 5.5. If the earth were full of water (no land), then the
earth would have a density of 1. If it had the density of surface rocks, it
would be 2.7. Therefore, if the earth has a density of
5.5, then the interior HAS to contain more dense material.
The math for determining the orthodox density of the earth is the following:
In determining the mass of the earth, Newtonians assume that the momentum of
a small mass accelerating towards the earth near its surface is equal to the
earth's gravitational force acting on that small mass:
F = m * a The Momentum Formula (Newton's Second Law)
F = GmM/R^2 The Newtonian Gravitation Formula
m * a = GmM/R^2
Solving for a, the mass m's cancel out,
a = GM/R^2
We can now solve for M, the mass of earth,
M = a * R^2 /G
using the Newtonian Gravitational Constant,
980.665 * 4.0678884 x 10^17 / 6.67259 x 10^-8
= 5.978541732 x 10^27 gms The Newtonian mass of the Earth
From the Density formula
D = M/V
we obtain the Newtonian density of the earth.
From the volume of a sphere formula,
V = PiD^3/6
The volume of the earth is 1.082 * 10^27 cc.
The Newtonian density of the earth then is:
5.978541732 x 10^27 gms / 1.082 * 10^27 cc
= 5.525 gm/cc
Now you may say that perhaps all this mass is located in an 800 mile thick
shell. Ok. But what average density would that give the earth's shell?
We can calculate this.
Assuming the thickness of earth's shell at 800 mi or 1,287.48 km,
Diameter of Earth's hollow: Thickness of Earth's shell x 2 - Diameter of
Earth
800 mi x 2 - 8000 = 6400 mi
Or
1,287.48 km x 2 - 12,756 = 10,181 km Or 1.018104445 x 10^9 cm
Volume of Hollow:
3.14159265 x (1.018104445 x10^9)^3/6
= 5.525551394 x 10^26 cc
Volume of Earth - Volume of Hollow = Volume of Shell:
1.086781293 x 10^27 cc - 5.525551394 x 10^26 cc
= 5.342261531 x 10^26
Density of Shell = Mass of Earth/Volume of Shell:
5.978541732 x 10^27 gms/5.342261531 x 10^26 cc
= 11.19 gm/cc
This assumes that most of the earth's mass is located in its shell. As
you can see, Newtonian physics would require an average shell density almost
as dense as lead (11.3). As since surface rocks are 2.7, then the interior
of the shell would have to be greater than the average density.
The interior density using the Newtonian mass of the earth requires than the
interior of the shell would have a density of
2 * 11.19 - 2.7 = 19.68,
which is denser than gold (19.3).
Now you could say that this density could be in the realm of possibility.
After all, the earth DOES ring like a bell after a rather large earthquake.
A bell is hollow and is made of metal.
You may say that the interior sun certainly contains some of the mass of the
earth which could lower the density of the shell. But an interior sun of the
frequently estimated diameter of 600 miles would contain very little of the
mass of the earth.
Assuming the interior sun has a density of glass which I claim all stars
are actually crystals instead of burning gas, it's mass would be only
.0065% of the mass of the Newtonian mass of the earth.
V = pi D^3 / 6
(600 mi * 1.60934722 km * 100,000 cm) ^3 / 6
= 1.500554464 x 10^23 cc Volume of inner sun
Density = Mass / Volume
Mass = Volume * Density
= 3.901441607 x 10^23 gms
divided by mass of earth of 5.978541732 x 10^27 gms
= .000065257 * 100 = .0065%
If the interior sun is composed of gas as orthodox science maintains stars
consist of, then that percentage would be much less. So by far, most of a
hollow earth's mass would be located in its shell.
Another possibility, you may say, is that the earth's shell is thicker
giving a lower average density. This also, could be a possibility. Some
method of determining the shell's thickness needs to be devised. This could
easily be determined by entering the hollow of the earth through a polar
opening and bouncing radar waves off the opposite side of the hollow
interior.
In all, actually, I see nothing in the Newtonian mass of the earth that
would completely exclude the earth from being hollow. Earthquake waves have
been noticed to bend as they descend into the earth causing them to curve
back up to the surface before hitting the discontinuity inside the earth
scientists claim is the outer core. This indicates the earth does increase
in density with depth which is consistent with a hollow shell using the
Newtonian mass of the earth. In fact, if the earth is hollow and the
Newtonian mass of the earth requiring an increased density with depth is
correct, then that in itself would exclude their claim to a molten interior.
That discontinuity inside the earth could be the inner surface.
Rod
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From:
"Haal"
Reply-To:
[email protected]
Date:
Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:30:46 +0200
To:
<[email protected]>
Subject:
R: [HollowEarth] - Yet another question
Rafael Miranda wrote:
This idea of the hollow earth will be fought and ridiculed by every so
called "expert" and we must not expect any sympathy from the scientific
community.
Generally speaking this is true, but Velikovski, Galileo, Tesla, Reich
were scientists. One thing is the scientific establishment, other thing is
the scientific people. There are many open-minded scientists but you need to
present scientific facts.
It is not just a matter of been right and been able to prove it. It is a
matter of getting someone to listen in the first place!
The first point is to be able to present scientific facts and theories.
Well, that I hope explains why the physicists "say" that the earth cannot
be hollow.
No, the point is that the accepted laws of gravitation say that is NOT
possible for the Earth to be hollow with a central sun.
The Hollow-Earth/Central-Sun theory would require the characterization and
the demonstration of a completely new physics working inside planets.
This is what you need in the fist place! Or, since the Earth is concerned,
simply find the polar openings and videotape the central sun.
Haal
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From:
[email protected]
Reply-To:
[email protected]
Date:
Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:09:18 +0200
To:
<[email protected]>
Subject:
Re: [HollowEarth] - another question
Ibesis wrote:
I have a question about this theory of gravitation....In the case of the
gravity on the outside of our planet, is it not obtained through the fact
that there is an atmosphere?
Air pressure is the force exerted on you by the weight of tiny particles of
air. Earth's atmosphere is pressing against each square inch of you with a
force of 1 kilogram per square centimeter. But air pressure is all around us
and since the momentum of the molecules is randomly distributed in space,
the resultant force due to pressure is zero. For instance, a thin flat plate
in air will experience a zero resultant force due to air pressure since the
forces due to pressure on its two sides have the same magnitude and they
point in opposite directions. We say that pressure is isotropic meaning
equal in all directions.
Would the same not apply inside the sphere as well?
Air pressure applied to hold things in place?
Consider the Space Shuttle habitat as the inner Earth, an astronaut as its
inhabitant and observe what happens. The air pressure inside the Shuttle is
maintained near to the Earth value, but you will see the astronaut (or the
inner Earth inhabitant) floating without weight. Air pressure does not hold
things in place.
Haal
From:
[email protected]
Reply-To:
[email protected]
Date:
16 Jun 1999 11:25:25 -0700
To:
[email protected]
Subject:
Re: [HollowEarth] - have you considered?
Andrew,
If my may input my two bits here. If the earth was molten OR gas when formed
in rotation, centrifugal force and gravity would cause it to form into a
toroid, a flat spinning disk. It would look somewhat like the hollow ring
nebulas seen in outer space, which have a central star, a space surrounding
the star (which corresponds the hollow in the earth) and the rest of the
matter surrounding that.
Central to planet origination theory must be the central sun around which
other matter rotates. The reason the orbiting matter forms a spherical
planet instead of a disk like the rings of Saturn, is because the earth has
a spiritual foundation, an etheric hollow planet upon which the dust and
rocks of space have accumulated.
In forming the earth, physical matter was controlled and governed by spirit
matter. Therefore, a hollow spirit world with a central paradise-sun was
organized from spirit matter upon which the physical matter was
superimposed. So explained the guide to I-AM-THE-MAN in Lloyd's ETIDORPHA:
"Matter has no strength, matter obeys spirit, and spirit dominates all
things material. Energy in some form holds particles of matter together, and
energy in other forms loosens them...The spirit that pervades all material
things gives to them form and existence. Take from your earth its vital
spirit, the energy that subjects matter, and your so-called adamantine rocks
would disintegrate, and sift as dust into the interstices of space."
(ETIDORPHA, p. 253)
This, in fact, will occur at the end of the earth's temporal existence when
it will die. With it's spirit taken out, the earth will disintegrate and
then be brought forth in its final resurrected status by Jesus Christ, the
Creator.
In a revelation to the prophet Joseph Smith, in 1832, concerning this earth,
Christ said, "...wherefore, it shall be sanctified; yea, notwithstanding IT
SHALL DIE, IT SHALL BE QUICKENED AGAIN, and shall abide the power by which
it is quickened, and the righteous shall inherit it." (D&C 88:26)
It is the earth's spirit which holds it together. And upon which the
physical earth was founded. The guide in ETIDORPHA, explained,
"The earth forming principle consists of an invisible sphere of energy that,
spinning through space, supports the space dust which collects on it, as
dust on a bubble. By gradual accumulation of substance on that sphere a
hollow ball has resulted, on the outer surface of which you have hither to
dwelt. The crust of the earth is comparatively thin, not more than eight
hundred miles in average thickness, and is held in position by the central
sphere of energy (center of gravity, or central
sphere of gravity) that now exists at a distance about seven hundred miles
beneath the ocean level." (ETIDORPHA, p. 193)
For more on this see my web page at,
http://www.ourhollowearth.com/Chap8.htm
The earth was not formed either as a gas or molten material. It was formed
from metallic space dust as it accumulated on the spiritual bubble of the
earth's spirit world. When water was later added, chemical reactions such as
when water is added to sodium, phosphorus and sulfur spontaneously ignite
causing volcanic action, and still does today when gravitational
interactions of the planets and sun open up cracks and crevasses into which
water can seep down into pure deposits of original space metals. Then you
have a volcanic reaction. There has never been a "molten" interior as
orthodox science maintains.
The Inner earth guide in ETIDORPHA explained the cause of volcanoes and
earthquakes as related to the caverns: "If men were far enough along in
their thought journey..., they would avoid such theories as that which
ascribes a molten interior to the earth.
Volcanoes are superficial. They are as a rule, when in activity but little
blisters or excoriations upon the surface of the earth, although their
underground connections may be extensive.
Some of them are in a continual fret with frequent eruptions, others, like
the one under consideration, (Mount Epomeo, Italy) awaken only after great
periods of time. The entire surface of this globe has been or will be
subject to volcanic action. The phenomenon is one of the steps in the
world-making, matter-leveling process. When the deposit of substances that I
have indicated, and of which much of the earth's interior is composed, the
bases of salt, potash, and lime and clay is exhausted, there will be no
further volcanic action from this cause, and in some places, this deposit
has already disappeared, or is covered deeply by layers of earth that serve
as a protection."
"Is water, then, the universal cause of volcanoes?"
"Water and air together cause most of them. The action of water and its
vapor produces from metallic space dust, limestone, and clay soil, potash
and soda salts. This perfectly rational and natural action must continue as
long as there is water above, and free elementary bases in contact with the
earth bubbles.
Volcanoes, earthquakes, geysers, mud springs, and hot springs, are the
natural result of that reaction. Mountains are thereby forming by upheavals
from beneath, and the corresponding surface valleys are consequently filling
up, either by the slow deposit of the matter from the saline water of hot
springs, or by the sudden eruption of a new or presumably extinct volcano."
"What would happen if a crevice in the bottom of the ocean should conduct
the waters of the ocean into a deposit of metallic bases?"
"That often occurs," was the reply; "a volcanic wave results, and a volcano
may thus rise from the ocean's depths."
"Is there any danger to the earth itself? May it not be riven into fragments
from such a convulsion?" I hesitatingly questioned.
"No; while the configuration of continents is continually being altered,
each disturbance must be practically superficial, and of limited area."
"But," I persisted, "the rigid, solid earth may be blown to fragments; in
such convulsions a result like that seems not impossible."
"You argue from an erroneous hypothesis. The earth is neither rigid nor
solid."
(ETIDORPHA p. 192-194)
See http://www.ourhollowearth.com/Chap11.htm
Rod
Andrew Hennessey wrote:
hi, Jan and all,
I have a theory that centrifugal force is the mechanics with which hollow
planets are formed. The molten planet is spinning in some gravitational
relationship with the sun, and the outer surface cools, but the molten
inner core is still spinning, and the torque creates a hole in the North
and South poles.
Since a planet starts out as a ball of gas and dust which condenses due to
the force of gravity, then the question is, what force wins out: the force
of gravity or the force centrifugal force? Will it become a torroid or a
sphere?
I believe it depends on the mass and composition of the planet, and the rate
of spin. But it certain that as a planet condenses it spins faster, just as
a ballerina spins faster as she pulls her hands and legs toward the center
of gravity.
Steve Wingate
California Director
SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL
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From:
[email protected]
Reply-To:
[email protected]
Date:
16 Jun 1999 10:53:17 -0700
To:
[email protected]
Subject:
Re: [HollowEarth] - another question
Steve,
Haaal is right about present theory claiming everywhere inside a hollow
planet would be NO gravity. I have a FUNDAMENTALS OF PHYSICS by David
Halliday and Robert Resnick, 1988 which says on page 337, regarding what
they call the "Shell Theorem," A theorem related to the Shell theorem I
quote, "A uniform shell of matter exerts NO gravitational force of a
particle located inside it."
I agree with you that hollow planets theory of gravity does not agree with
this.
Any people on the interior of the earth, according to orthodox gravity
theory, would be WEIGHTLESS and floating around. If our theories about the
hollow earth, however, are true, that the interior earth inhabitants have
their feet firmly planted on the inner surface, this means, that orthodox
gravity theory must be revised. One or the other must be wrong. If we prove
planets are hollow, gravity theory will HAVE to be revised. Perhaps this
would lead to gravity control, and gravity
control will lead to free energy for all. Maybe here is another reason the
hollow earth is still World Top Secret!
Rod
haaal wrote:
It is correct. According to actual physics, everywhere inside a perfect
spheric planet with a hollow shell there will be NO gravity. Everything
inside this hollow planet would be weightless.
Absolutely not! An object resting on one of the sides of the inside of a
hollow sphere will experience a greater gravitational attraction from the
mass of the closest to it, causing an attraction toward the outside of the
sphere.
The confusion you are having is because in a faraday cage such as a
hollow metallic sphere, an object is not affected by an electric or
electromagnetic signal because of the conductive nature of the metal that is
surrounding the object. This has nothing to do with gravity.
I suggest you consult with a physics professor if you do not believe that
what I am saying is correct. Or just think about it for a while.
Regards,
Steve
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From:
[email protected]
Date:
06 Jun 1999 08:37:31 PDT
To:
[email protected]
Subject:
Re: [HollowEarth] - Hollow earth question
John,
There definitely has to be a reason why our government is keeping it's
knowledge of the polar openings a secret. I have a friend whose
brother-in-law was stationed in Alaska at a military base. While there, he
happened to learn about the hollow earth theory and began to talk to all his
buddies about it. This is was when he was called in by the base commander
and asked to shut up about the hollow earth.
The commander said, "Do you want to destroy all that we have been working
for?"
So you may ask who is our military working for? Well, the top echelon of the
military is appointed to their posts from the top down. If the President is
a New World order type, then he appoints those in command beneath him from
the same New World order types. So these positions are given to those most
congenial to the New World
Order, United Nations, Internationalists point of view. Their goal is to
dominate the world with their "order," which to us common folk is really
disorder, because they love war and anything crisis that gives them an
excuse to consolidate power.
They obviously would not like us would be slaves to discover a peace-loving,
liberty promoting peoples that inhabit the inner earth and make friends with
them. That would be an impediment to their New World order in which they are
striving to make us all complete slaves, ready to bid their will at their
command.
But for us peace loving common folk, that love liberty, we MUST make contact
with the hollow earth inhabitants, precisely so we can weaken the New World
Order's hold upon us. This WILL happen, whether they want it to happen or
not. Peace will prevail in the end, and the New World Order bunch will go
the way of the doh-doh. Even if they take many of us with them as they go
down, we must NOT give up!
Complete slavery is no option.
This is my opinion. I don't think there is so much of a conspiracy theory as
a fact. For years the John Birch Society told us about the New World Order
conspiracy, but now it is out in the open and even they now tout their New
World Order openly.
Rod
John E . Rael III wrote:
Cornell release, Radar images included
If this doesn't close the hole in the moon debate on this list, I have much
worry for whoever still proposes it.
I still have a question about the hollow earth that has yet been answered to
my satisfaction. 'If there is a hole in the north and south pole, why would
our government keep it secret?' And please don't answer this with another
conspiracy, like "they keep it secret because that's where they do all of
their 'black budget' work". Can anyone give me a legitimate reason as to why
the government would not tell us about this. Also don't tell me it's because
they do not know. If there are holes, our government surely knows. This is
what has always frustrated me in my research and lectures; No matter how you
look at it this is a conspiracy theory. The reason that it has to be a
conspiracy theory (no matter how much science is thrown into the bunch) is
very simple. If there are holes that then automatically means that our
government knows about it, which means that they are lying to us because
they say that there are no holes, which ultimately makes this a conspiracy
theory. Kind of ironic huh! This is also an irony in another sense. If there
is a hole in the north and south poles then that means that our government
knows about it, which means that they are lying to us, which also means that
they do not want us to know (sorry for being redundant, I have a point),
Which means that if Jan is on to something then they will try to stop him.
Your skeptical researcher,
John E. Rael III
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